But so far running OSX on high end hardware only produces medicore performance. It takes a lot of horsepower to this baby march. I'm eager to see if this "beta" version is an improvement.
This is something I noticed as well, but apparently these are more due to high-level issues rather than the OS/kernel itself. For example, I believe the Cocoa and Java libaries are still being optimized, which explains why the little applets take so long to launch. At least at some point, some of those sample applications (TextEdit, I think?) were actually Java apps, so the JVM loads first, then the application. I would not be suprised if this was still the case with DP4, and possibly even in the final public release.
The OS itself is obviously a quite capable system performance-wise. It does an admirable job serving pages via Apache from what I've seen. It just seems that some of the higher level user-level stuff needs tweaking, which is probably what most of the debug code is attached to, anyway. I don't imagine the BSD layer, etc are changing nearly as much.
That means apps for OS X can be recompiled, with no changes, and run on Linux and any other GnuSTEP enabled platform - that was the whole goal of OpenSTEP, to allow write once - compile anywhere type development, with a simple and elegant OO variant of C.
Are you sure this is still the case? From what I understand, there have been some considerable changes to the API since OpenStep.
Now, some people might say they "have" to. However, I submit that all of these episodes have been shown on PBS before, uncut, durning the daytime without any problems
Just a guess, but it may be that Cartoon Network actually has sponsors that have to be comfortable with the content. PBS, obviously, is member-supported.
Even here at IBM, that amount of money made from software and hardware is starting to be dwarfed by the income generated by the Services sector, and that seems to be where Helix Gnome is heading.
This is great for free software, but it's absolutely horrible for anybody interested in making Linux consumer-friendly. I don't think you can't have really happy users/customers and really successful support-revenue-based businesses. The two don't mix. There's clearly a conflict of interest (whether conscious or not) between making software really easy to use and expecting to make money from support. Personally, I would much rather pay for the software and have it work the first time, than have something break and have to invest the time/money looking at manuals, man pages, web sites or calling someone for help. Other than hard-core hackers, nobody really wants to have to read a manual. I know this concern isn't exactly new, but I don't think it's being taken seriously enough.
Why is this important? This is the sort of integration that MS's.NET project dreams about - [...] Having an alternative to this underway NOW strikes me as of critical importance as Linux works its way onto more and more people's computers in order to prevent the.NET integration turning the commercial internet into a closed-off MS-only zone.
But as has been prove time and time again, technology alone will not win the battle. The truth is Microsoft has essentially inifinite resources. It can use these resources to market to end users, setup exclusive partnerships, and essential buy its way into acceptance. This is how Microsoft works.
All these great ideas and technology, including those from Helix Code, will mean nothing if they can't get the message out to the appropriate people.
This is, IMO, a big part of the reason that Mac OSX won't be Unix even though it's based on underlying Unix technology. It doesn't incorporate all of the other stuff that's really part of Unix as it is understood to be, so the use of a Unix kernel doesn't make it Unix.
Mac OS X does come with ps, sed, awk, etc. Pretty much anything standard in BSD. There are at least two separate efforts (one, I believe, is John Carmack) to get X11 running well on Mac OS X as well.
"Amiga and Red Hat are working together to provide the foundation for exciting games and consumer content for the desktop, set-top-box, game console, and handheld market."
In case anyone's wondering, this sentence is 35% buzzwords (9 buzzwords, 26 words total).
I can just imagine how shitty Microsoft's distribution of Linux will be. Umm, we all know that this is their eventual plan, yes? Embrace, extend, then break compatibility.
They can do whatever they like. Access to their source is protected under the GPL. They can make as many changes as they like, but at the end of the day, all the code belong to the community. Debian, Red Hat, etc can just merge in changes or, worst case, create an "MS Linux compatibility layer."
With that aside what ARE the alternative CPU options for Apple?
This is a completely serious question because I honestly do not know much about Crusoe. Would a Transmeta processor be plausible here, being that their architecture is supposed to emulate other processors well?
Apple is using it in it's consumer boxes, IBM in servers, & Motorola is suplying Apple while focusing on the embedded market.
BTW: IBM also has been manufacturing PowerPCS for Apple for the past several months, and is apparently doing a much better job of it than Motorola.
the fact that anyone can tweak the code--because it creates a situation in which an IT staffer may make changes that no one else knows about, and that probably go undocumented
Does this guy realize that the entire internet runs on software that has had source available for eons before Internet Explorer even existed? Sendmail, BIND, etc. have always come in source form.
Somehow, the internet grew despite the threat of freely-available source code for the software that power it. Amazing.
The screen shots Adobe posted look pretty similar to the Macromedia products in question. I'm really wondering though, even though they deny it, if they're running scared from Flash, Fireworks and Dreamweaver.
Flash is certainly signficant, but I don't think Adobe's too scared of it because John Warnock (head of Adobe), keynoted at FlashFoward2000 (or something like that). I don't even consider FireWorks to be on the radar. Photoshop is the standard there. Dreamweaver is making great sides on the Windows side of things, but Adobe hasn't really put out a real web production product yet. They bought GoLive, basically took the existing code and shipped it as Adobe GoLive 4.0. This has done well in the Mac world (mostly because Dreamweaver is a bad Windows port).
GoLive 5.0, due out any day now, will be the company's first real foray into this space, and may give Macromedia some real static. Check out some key features from the feature list:
WebDAV support
SVG Support
Very tight Photoshop integration (key!)
And this is in addition to the native WebObjects support, QuickTime editing, and JavaScript editor/debugger that GoLive has always had.
This lawsuit doesn't make sense. Adobe is in a good position, they don't need to do this.
If Adobe is running scared why are they suing Macromedia for copying their interface. Macromedia knows that once Adobe puts out a flash exporting tool (read: LiveMotion) with the Adobe Interface that their flash tools are as good as dead. It is Macromedia who is running scared...
Hard to say. From what I understand, there's so much Flash stuff out there because Director knowledge (Director is made by Macromedia) translates so directly into Flash. In which case, making an interface different from Flash/Director would actually be a bad thing for Adobe -- unless they're looking to bring AfterEffects users into Flash.
OS X is Rhapsody, albeit a lot later and a lot different than originally promised.
Actually, almost exactly what was promised for Rhapsody has existed for some time in Mac OS X server -- and from what I understand, Mr. Amelio was going to bet the company on it.
However, Apple's entire design philosophy rides on the end users not needing to ever know what kind of engine is up there in front. I think the BSD/MacOS-10 hype is way overblown.
Somebody probably said something similar about Visual Basic once.
How the technology gets out there is not important. Look at the big picture. If there are a million new units shipped in one quarter with a BSD-based OS preinstalled, that's a huge win for everyone except Microsoft.
"Apple continues to hold about %30 of the installed base of computers" You had me believing you till that little stat....
Okay, it's probably not 30% (I'm guessing), but the installed base percentage is certainly much higher than the market share would indicate. Historically, Mac users have kept machines much longer than wintel users. The painful irony of this is that while Apple engineered all this long-term value into the Mac, it didn't make a dime on its customers during that time, and analysts really came down on the compant for that. However, this long-term value is part of the reason people are so loyal to Apple and the Mac.
Hardly! The.swf as created by Macromedia also includes abilities to throw in sound, TONS of interactivity, a sweet library of network functions, the list goes on.
So what? You can get interactivity from JavaScript, and web browsers can already do sound without Flash. Remember, SVG isn't in its own little world like Flash is. SVG is, ideally, an XML-born, native part of the web browser. This means it can interact with ever other aspect of the page.
Flash is nice, but it has several issues. Not the least of which is the standard is defined by Macromedia. Flash Generator (for dynamic content) is expensive and only runs on NT and Solaris. And since Flash is a plugin, it robs the browser of navigation and boomarking -- just like frames all over again. This really confuses people.
Flash also conveniently sidesteps all the progress that has been made in web standards -- CSS, XML, etc. Anybody can sit down in a few minutes and create a stylesheet. It's remarkably easy to do. The Flash application (or even Adobe's LiveMotion), however, requires some time to learn.
PHP does seem to have some functions for creating SWF files, but I haven't played with it yet.
I'm looking forward to the day when my music can be indexed and crossreferenced every which way: artist, tempo, year, style, similiarity, heck I wanna know when the Beastie Boys sample The Beatles and be notified
This is a little disturbing to me. Is it really necessary to reduce music to a series of mathematic calculations? Is that really what the aim is? Besides, after that, how far away are we from randomly generated songs (not midi) based on your preferences? That would totally ruin music as an art form, and stifle real creativity. I think this would increase the problem of people just sticking with what they know and not experiencing radically new types of music.
Of course, having hold of this kind of personal preference data is a record exec's dream, so I doubt this company would have any trouble getting funding. Imagine if you could record a song, instantly check it against the personal taste database of 10 million teenagers, and then adjust the song accordingly. What a nightmare.
Suppose you were working for a large company that had behaved egregiously, for example, by releasing hazardous chemicals, or dangerous healthcare or food products... would an NDA overide your civic and human responsibilities?
Ethically speaking, I think that evidence of actualy criminal activity, and certainly the variety which has the potential to cause physical harm to individuals, would override the need to abide by an NDA.
I do not believe, however, than an employee simply being unhappy with their job is reason enough to provide inside information to an outside publication as retaliation. Too often this is the case. Journalists just love to eat up any gossip surrounding internal company conflicts, and often the facts are distorted as the story is only told through the point of view of the source. And getting back to the original topic, this happened to Apple several years back, and it was a disaster. Online news outlets were using unhappy employees (during the Amelio->Jobs transition) as pawns in a scheme to sensationalize the Apple/NeXT merger.
It's quite ironic that so many people in this thread have attacked Apple for ethical issues in this situation, as we are overlooking one very important point: these people that work in Apple and leak secrets, do you think they just do it for the fun of it? Do you think they do it without compensation?
How ethical is it for some entry-level employee who happens to work in Cupertino to take photos or screenshots of new Apple products (something (s)he had no part in creating), and hand them over to rumor sites in return for whatever compensation? That is stealing for personal gain. It's that blantant. Even if the personal gain is merely being "the one" to leak it. And you do realize that many of these sites make money from these leaks, right? They also do so for personal gain. This isn't an "information wants to be free" issue. It's a "make me some quick cash without having to do any real work" issue.
Despite the fact that some people will always hate Apple because they make a one-button mouse, you have to realize that there are a lot of people that work at the company that really are incredibly passionate about the work they do, and are really looking to improve computers as a whole. When an individual going to ruin all that work for everyone, that's simply disrespectful. How do leaks affect Apple, you ask? Apple was able to get considerably more eyeballs looking at the iMac and stories written on it because it was unexpected. Apple has every right to do this. Sony does similar things. Humans like surprises. At the very least, it breaks up the static in an otherwise very dull and stagnant industry.
This is not the US government covering up the discovery of an alien species. This is not a free speech issue. This is theft and sale of private information. Should Apple just let this go unchecked? Just ignore the problem and allow random people to announce Apple's products before Apple does? And sometimes it doesn't stop there. Sometimes these sites discuss products that MAY ship, and the mainstream press picks up on this and critiques them. In these cases, Apple gets grilled for things it hasn't even done yet.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. We have a double-standard for privacy issues on the internet. Privacy of a person is paramount, but privacy of a group of people (an organization) is irrelevant. Some people really truely feel that any information that belongs to an organization should instantly and immediately be the property of anyone with a TCP/IP connection. That doesn't make any sense to me.
For once, can we step back and look at this from a non-slashdot-centric perspective? Can we look a little deeper, and realize that there are maybe more factors to take into consideration when running a successful multi-billion dollar company than we realize?
what's the future for third-party high-end PPC RISC workstations? If IBM could be convinced to make a lower-end variant of their 64-bit workstation/supercomputer processor line, rather than a high-end variant of their 32-bit embedded processor line as they do now, PPC would have a much easier time competing on the desktop market.
I believe you just described the G5 (no, I didn't just make that up).
Slashdot Mirror
But so far running OSX on high end hardware only produces medicore performance. It takes a lot of horsepower to this baby march. I'm eager to see if this "beta" version is an improvement.
This is something I noticed as well, but apparently these are more due to high-level issues rather than the OS/kernel itself. For example, I believe the Cocoa and Java libaries are still being optimized, which explains why the little applets take so long to launch. At least at some point, some of those sample applications (TextEdit, I think?) were actually Java apps, so the JVM loads first, then the application. I would not be suprised if this was still the case with DP4, and possibly even in the final public release.
The OS itself is obviously a quite capable system performance-wise. It does an admirable job serving pages via Apache from what I've seen. It just seems that some of the higher level user-level stuff needs tweaking, which is probably what most of the debug code is attached to, anyway. I don't imagine the BSD layer, etc are changing nearly as much.
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That means apps for OS X can be recompiled, with no changes, and run on Linux and any other GnuSTEP enabled platform - that was the whole goal of OpenSTEP, to allow write once - compile anywhere type development, with a simple and elegant OO variant of C.
Are you sure this is still the case? From what I understand, there have been some considerable changes to the API since OpenStep.
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Now, some people might say they "have" to. However, I submit that all of these episodes have been shown on PBS before, uncut, durning the daytime without any problems
Just a guess, but it may be that Cartoon Network actually has sponsors that have to be comfortable with the content. PBS, obviously, is member-supported.
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Even here at IBM, that amount of money made from software and hardware is starting to be dwarfed by the income generated by the Services sector, and that seems to be where Helix Gnome is heading.
.NET project dreams about - [...] Having an alternative to this underway NOW strikes me as of critical importance as Linux works its way onto more and more people's computers in order to prevent the .NET integration turning the commercial internet into a closed-off MS-only zone.
This is great for free software, but it's absolutely horrible for anybody interested in making Linux consumer-friendly. I don't think you can't have really happy users/customers and really successful support-revenue-based businesses. The two don't mix. There's clearly a conflict of interest (whether conscious or not) between making software really easy to use and expecting to make money from support. Personally, I would much rather pay for the software and have it work the first time, than have something break and have to invest the time/money looking at manuals, man pages, web sites or calling someone for help. Other than hard-core hackers, nobody really wants to have to read a manual. I know this concern isn't exactly new, but I don't think it's being taken seriously enough.
Why is this important? This is the sort of integration that MS's
But as has been prove time and time again, technology alone will not win the battle. The truth is Microsoft has essentially inifinite resources. It can use these resources to market to end users, setup exclusive partnerships, and essential buy its way into acceptance. This is how Microsoft works.
All these great ideas and technology, including those from Helix Code, will mean nothing if they can't get the message out to the appropriate people.
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This is, IMO, a big part of the reason that Mac OSX won't be Unix even though it's based on underlying Unix technology. It doesn't incorporate all of the other stuff that's really part of Unix as it is understood to be, so the use of a Unix kernel doesn't make it Unix.
Mac OS X does come with ps, sed, awk, etc. Pretty much anything standard in BSD. There are at least two separate efforts (one, I believe, is John Carmack) to get X11 running well on Mac OS X as well.
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"Amiga and Red Hat are working together to provide the foundation for exciting games and consumer content for the desktop, set-top-box, game console, and handheld market."
In case anyone's wondering, this sentence is 35% buzzwords (9 buzzwords, 26 words total).
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I'm sick of Apple stories on /. But here you is.
Instead of complaining, why don't you just turn the Apple topic off in your preferences?
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And MacOS X is just vapor.... it will NOT be released (not even public beta) this year
Hmmmm, odd. Mac OS X appears to run just fine for me on my G3. Maybe it's all just done with mirrors?
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I can just imagine how shitty Microsoft's distribution of Linux will be. Umm, we all know that this is their eventual plan, yes? Embrace, extend, then break compatibility.
They can do whatever they like. Access to their source is protected under the GPL. They can make as many changes as they like, but at the end of the day, all the code belong to the community. Debian, Red Hat, etc can just merge in changes or, worst case, create an "MS Linux compatibility layer."
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With that aside what ARE the alternative CPU options for Apple?
This is a completely serious question because I honestly do not know much about Crusoe. Would a Transmeta processor be plausible here, being that their architecture is supposed to emulate other processors well?
Apple is using it in it's consumer boxes, IBM in servers, & Motorola is suplying Apple while focusing on the embedded market.
BTW: IBM also has been manufacturing PowerPCS for Apple for the past several months, and is apparently doing a much better job of it than Motorola.
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the fact that anyone can tweak the code--because it creates a situation in which an IT staffer may make changes that no one else knows about, and that probably go undocumented
Does this guy realize that the entire internet runs on software that has had source available for eons before Internet Explorer even existed? Sendmail, BIND, etc. have always come in source form.
Somehow, the internet grew despite the threat of freely-available source code for the software that power it. Amazing.
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Flash is certainly signficant, but I don't think Adobe's too scared of it because John Warnock (head of Adobe), keynoted at FlashFoward2000 (or something like that). I don't even consider FireWorks to be on the radar. Photoshop is the standard there. Dreamweaver is making great sides on the Windows side of things, but Adobe hasn't really put out a real web production product yet. They bought GoLive, basically took the existing code and shipped it as Adobe GoLive 4.0. This has done well in the Mac world (mostly because Dreamweaver is a bad Windows port).
GoLive 5.0, due out any day now, will be the company's first real foray into this space, and may give Macromedia some real static. Check out some key features from the feature list:
And this is in addition to the native WebObjects support, QuickTime editing, and JavaScript editor/debugger that GoLive has always had.
This lawsuit doesn't make sense. Adobe is in a good position, they don't need to do this.
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If Adobe is running scared why are they suing Macromedia for copying their interface. Macromedia knows that once Adobe puts out a flash exporting tool (read: LiveMotion) with the Adobe Interface that their flash tools are as good as dead. It is Macromedia who is running scared...
Hard to say. From what I understand, there's so much Flash stuff out there because Director knowledge (Director is made by Macromedia) translates so directly into Flash. In which case, making an interface different from Flash/Director would actually be a bad thing for Adobe -- unless they're looking to bring AfterEffects users into Flash.
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I can run Quake3 at 1280x1024 -- four times NTSC resolution...why would I ever play it on a console?
Maybe because the cost of a 40" TV is actually reasonable compared to the cost of a 40" monitor?
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On page 3 of that interview, there's a photo of Carmack fragging - on a Mac! Looks like a G4, plus a sweet LCD screen. Hope he brought his own mouse ;)
I'm pretty sure they played on G3s last year.
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OS X is Rhapsody, albeit a lot later and a lot different than originally promised.
Actually, almost exactly what was promised for Rhapsody has existed for some time in Mac OS X server -- and from what I understand, Mr. Amelio was going to bet the company on it.
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However, Apple's entire design philosophy rides on the end users not needing to ever know what kind of engine is up there in front. I think the BSD/MacOS-10 hype is way overblown.
Somebody probably said something similar about Visual Basic once.
How the technology gets out there is not important. Look at the big picture. If there are a million new units shipped in one quarter with a BSD-based OS preinstalled, that's a huge win for everyone except Microsoft.
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Scott Stevenson
"Apple continues to hold about %30 of the installed base of computers" You had me believing you till that little stat....
Okay, it's probably not 30% (I'm guessing), but the installed base percentage is certainly much higher than the market share would indicate. Historically, Mac users have kept machines much longer than wintel users. The painful irony of this is that while Apple engineered all this long-term value into the Mac, it didn't make a dime on its customers during that time, and analysts really came down on the compant for that. However, this long-term value is part of the reason people are so loyal to Apple and the Mac.
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Hardly! The .swf as created by Macromedia also includes abilities to throw in sound, TONS of interactivity, a sweet library of network functions, the list goes on.
So what? You can get interactivity from JavaScript, and web browsers can already do sound without Flash. Remember, SVG isn't in its own little world like Flash is. SVG is, ideally, an XML-born, native part of the web browser. This means it can interact with ever other aspect of the page.
Flash is nice, but it has several issues. Not the least of which is the standard is defined by Macromedia. Flash Generator (for dynamic content) is expensive and only runs on NT and Solaris. And since Flash is a plugin, it robs the browser of navigation and boomarking -- just like frames all over again. This really confuses people.
Flash also conveniently sidesteps all the progress that has been made in web standards -- CSS, XML, etc. Anybody can sit down in a few minutes and create a stylesheet. It's remarkably easy to do. The Flash application (or even Adobe's LiveMotion), however, requires some time to learn.
PHP does seem to have some functions for creating SWF files, but I haven't played with it yet.
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Scott Stevenson
I'm looking forward to the day when my music can be indexed and crossreferenced every which way: artist, tempo, year, style, similiarity, heck I wanna know when the Beastie Boys sample The Beatles and be notified
This is a little disturbing to me. Is it really necessary to reduce music to a series of mathematic calculations? Is that really what the aim is? Besides, after that, how far away are we from randomly generated songs (not midi) based on your preferences? That would totally ruin music as an art form, and stifle real creativity. I think this would increase the problem of people just sticking with what they know and not experiencing radically new types of music.
Of course, having hold of this kind of personal preference data is a record exec's dream, so I doubt this company would have any trouble getting funding. Imagine if you could record a song, instantly check it against the personal taste database of 10 million teenagers, and then adjust the song accordingly. What a nightmare.
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Scott Stevenson
Suppose you were working for a large company that had behaved egregiously, for example, by releasing hazardous chemicals, or dangerous healthcare or food products... would an NDA overide your civic and human responsibilities?
Ethically speaking, I think that evidence of actualy criminal activity, and certainly the variety which has the potential to cause physical harm to individuals, would override the need to abide by an NDA.
I do not believe, however, than an employee simply being unhappy with their job is reason enough to provide inside information to an outside publication as retaliation. Too often this is the case. Journalists just love to eat up any gossip surrounding internal company conflicts, and often the facts are distorted as the story is only told through the point of view of the source. And getting back to the original topic, this happened to Apple several years back, and it was a disaster. Online news outlets were using unhappy employees (during the Amelio->Jobs transition) as pawns in a scheme to sensationalize the Apple/NeXT merger.
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So you feel Apple has a right to sue news organizations for reporting? Huh?
To the best of my knowledge, Apple hasn't actually sued any news organizations. But if they did, yes, I believe they have the right to do so.
Apple pay you to astroturf for them?
Please.
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It's quite ironic that so many people in this thread have attacked Apple for ethical issues in this situation, as we are overlooking one very important point: these people that work in Apple and leak secrets, do you think they just do it for the fun of it? Do you think they do it without compensation?
How ethical is it for some entry-level employee who happens to work in Cupertino to take photos or screenshots of new Apple products (something (s)he had no part in creating), and hand them over to rumor sites in return for whatever compensation? That is stealing for personal gain. It's that blantant. Even if the personal gain is merely being "the one" to leak it. And you do realize that many of these sites make money from these leaks, right? They also do so for personal gain. This isn't an "information wants to be free" issue. It's a "make me some quick cash without having to do any real work" issue.
Despite the fact that some people will always hate Apple because they make a one-button mouse, you have to realize that there are a lot of people that work at the company that really are incredibly passionate about the work they do, and are really looking to improve computers as a whole. When an individual going to ruin all that work for everyone, that's simply disrespectful. How do leaks affect Apple, you ask? Apple was able to get considerably more eyeballs looking at the iMac and stories written on it because it was unexpected. Apple has every right to do this. Sony does similar things. Humans like surprises. At the very least, it breaks up the static in an otherwise very dull and stagnant industry.
This is not the US government covering up the discovery of an alien species. This is not a free speech issue. This is theft and sale of private information. Should Apple just let this go unchecked? Just ignore the problem and allow random people to announce Apple's products before Apple does? And sometimes it doesn't stop there. Sometimes these sites discuss products that MAY ship, and the mainstream press picks up on this and critiques them. In these cases, Apple gets grilled for things it hasn't even done yet.
I've said it before and I'll say it again. We have a double-standard for privacy issues on the internet. Privacy of a person is paramount, but privacy of a group of people (an organization) is irrelevant. Some people really truely feel that any information that belongs to an organization should instantly and immediately be the property of anyone with a TCP/IP connection. That doesn't make any sense to me.
For once, can we step back and look at this from a non-slashdot-centric perspective? Can we look a little deeper, and realize that there are maybe more factors to take into consideration when running a successful multi-billion dollar company than we realize?
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"Big Brother" yet, Apple is trying hard to be "Big Brother" to their employees
So you feel employees have a right to leak confidential Apple materials for personal gain? Huh?
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what's the future for third-party high-end PPC RISC workstations? If IBM could be convinced to make a lower-end variant of their 64-bit workstation/supercomputer processor line, rather than a high-end variant of their 32-bit embedded processor line as they do now, PPC would have a much easier time competing on the desktop market.
I believe you just described the G5 (no, I didn't just make that up).
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