Due to the extreme payrises recently for The Simpsons voiceover talent, they have had to let go the guy that did the fat superhero/trek worshipping role. My suggestion is to curse the guy who sold you the Absolutely Genuine Authentic Object You Want Thing - curse him in Klingon, I say, and move on in your life, move forward to a New You that does not need painful weights[1] to increase your Manhood extents, and audition as the New Trek Guy in the Simpsons- you ARE the new trek guy, no stop YOU MAKE ME CRY!!1
> but you are making it seem like a company now > controls Groklaw. > or maybe you are trolling???
It's a serious question in the grandparent about PJ and Groklaw, not a Troll. The whole insurance thing seems completely evil to me, since it legitimizes the SCO attack: but Grok has done some of its best work in the weeks since she joined it, so it is clearly not supressing or distorting her work. Grok continues to be a beacon in the SCO storm.
I do wish PJ would use a journalistic-style full disclosure formula at the end of articles where she mentions indemnity insurance though: there have been a couple recently. We expect it of mouths-for-hire like Enderle and his MSFT affiliation after all.
And why does it limit itself to being Open Source Risk Management? Is there no risk involved in proprietary software? Grumble... OSDL wannabe... carpetbagging... old-think monetization attempt.... bah!!!
The kernel source package at least is signed by SuSE and Caldera. I assume SuSE did all the heavy lifting and Caldera/SCOX just rubber-stamp what they are given.
Sure, it can hurt SCO Unix *users* to not have nmap support. The grandparent's point was getting from turning your back and being uncooperative to having a legal attack on SCO via the GPL is a journey.
If you come in to the site at / it redirects to a broken URL.
If you come in to/scolinux it asks for auth (but accepts blank credentials).
If you ask me they are complying with the letter of the GPL while making every efffort to obfuscate the fact they are still freely giving away under the GPL what they are trying to charge $699 to idiots for.
SCOX trash talk the GPL in the press and on their website, but it seems to me they make a big effort not to wake that sleeping GPL dragon.
Hence they are still giving away Linux sources on their linuxupdate.sco.com site, as required by the GPL for three years minimum.
That they disrespected it and tried to undermine the GPL may be enough for Fyodor to decide he's mad as hell and isn't taking it any more, but to make a legal case they actually have to have violated some specific term(s).
They have kernel source in a kernel-source package in the updates dir, the distro sources and apparatently by the date the rest of the update sources are here:
Today they put up a new web-based "buy a year's license for the SCO IP" thing on their website. But why bother when you can license any SCO IP under the GPL irrevocably and for free, from the same website? Its just madness from SCO.
This is proof that the files are deliberately approved and issued by Caldera/SCOX, signing packages is the most protected step that can happen in a company for its sources and binaries.
Further when I look at/usr/src/linux-2.4.21-138/COPYING I see... the GPL v2 with a note at the top by Linus as usual.
Its like the arms and legs of SCOX don't know what the 455h013 is saying. HEY IDIOTS, you're still GIVING AWAY on your websites, under the GPL, the stuff you're trying to shake down companies for!! AND ITS GPG-SIGNED BY YOU THAT IT IS OKAY!!!!
I disagree: they have been around six months or so already, and they change mirrors a lot less often than you'd think. For the first few months one of their major mirrors was in fact Comcast's home pages:-). I think they'll be able to hop around for a long time, maybe forever --- after all, look at spammers. (The guy who runs it is Czech or some other place east of Germany I believe).
They have even started up the wonderfully amateur Suprnova Radio. So I don't think they're feeling any kind of pinch.
I think the flat availability of content for free is going to be the future, one way or another: these guys are the advance guard.
Seriously the berry people should talk to them, imagine the power of a BT-swarm type network in residential areas with one of these wireless devices in each house.
There is only one content provider: suprnova.org. Now that'd be a business model suitable for 2004, build turnkey consumer media devices that hook up by Bittorrent to whoever has content.
This slashdot post adds the context you need to understand the wild statements coming out of SCO.
Partial quote: ''Anytime the price dips too low for public consumption or a planned sale, they can make another outrageous announcement and pump it back up. ''
To understand SCO you need to stop taking their announcements seriously and look at them as a two-year-old misbehaving to get attention from its parents.
That's probably the most insightful and educational comment I ever read on Slashdot, well done dmaxwell.
I have watched SCOX stock price for a while and have been mystified by the way it succumbs to reality briefly and then magically defies gravity, especially surprising at times when there are no new events. In the scenario you describe the people with stock sales slated in the future have a strong motive for spending money now to keep that stock price high and level. That explains a LOT.
And if they really believed in the company's future as master of all *nix, would they be selling off that stock at a mere $17?
The reason I posted was to point out the irony that the guy at the top of this thread complaining about a lack of objectivity works himself for Microsoft, and failed to mention this in his astroturfing.
You could have mentioned that you are a MSFT employee in your impassioned defense of MSFT here. I have Box Toxen's ''Linux Security'' book, its pretty interesting. But your post seems to be a big ''we're all as bad as each other so ignore the fact I am evil'' astroturf.
Something you might want to chew on is the different value proposition of being given control of sources for software for free, vs being trained into a dependent monkey for whatever MSFT give you. Merry Christmas!
With thanks to Seth Johnson on the DMCA Discuss list for forwarding this earlier today:
Subject: [Patents] MS Office 2003 XML patented Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:48:11 +0100 From: Carsten Svaneborg Organization: www.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de To: patents@aful.org
Hi! Just came across the following:
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/ip/format/xmlpat en tlicense.asp Office 2003 XML Reference Schema Patent License
Microsoft may have patents and/or patent applications that are necessary for you to license in order to make, sell, or distribute software programs that read or write files that comply with the Microsoft specifications for the Office Schemas.
So usage of MS Word XML files requires a patentlicense:
You are not licensed to distribute a Licensed Implementation under license terms and conditions that prohibit the terms and conditions of this license. You are not licensed to sublicense or transfer your rights.
The licence is royalty free, but GPL 7 requires the right to sublicence patent rights to the people who obtain a GPL program from you.
so in other words Microsoft is using patents to prevent GPLed programs from accessing the XML format that MS Word will be using.
This is very good timing, and goes to show how important it is to ensure that the software patent directive has articles that protects interoperativity from consituting patentinfringemet.
The reason its newsworthy is that contingency is usually had from any winnings in the court, the lawyers recokon up their chances, knowing their skillz, and decide its worth a try seeing as how good they think they are.
The SCOmbags have had to effectively pawn part of their company to the lawyers for several months to get them to do the work.
And if the company is bought out, the lawyers see their money regardless of the half-assed job they have done (see Groklaw).
VMware is not just for consolidating servers, last week I used it for the first time and was able to lose having a Windows machine for legacy apps for the first time. There are still two apps I need to use that Wine can't cope with, this is a really nice and fast solution. $299 for VMware makes sense because it allows everything to live on the one 3GHz laptop here, its a radical simplification.
Another interesting point is that Windows XP running on Linux via VMWare is defanged somewhat security-wise. I only need to use IE inside the VM for Windows Update, for all other browsing and email its on the native Linux OS, which is prettier than XP anyway with KDE. The.EXEs that can run under Wine (or Crossover Office more precisely) I run on Linux. So the VMware VM is a two-app ghetto that will never run anything else.
If you have legacy apps in Windows, VMware is the answer, the parent could easily be right.
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I should imagine the coils used by the RFID tags to get power and data should be detectable in the same way that metal detectors look for changes in their coil characteristics by the presence of the metal in the field. This should work even if the RFID tag is being quiescent waiting for a secret code to come in before it will talk, since it must suck power to listen.
"Cleaning behind the couch" will get a whole new meaning.
The GPL requires Linux distributors to permit customers to freely copy the software.
During your holiday on Mars, SCO insisted that every Linux user must pay SCO ~$700 for the fantastic yet undefined SCO IP in Linux. That's where SCO slightly deviated from the "freely copy" bit.
Slashdot Mirror
Due to the extreme payrises recently for The Simpsons voiceover talent, they have had to let go the guy that did the fat superhero/trek worshipping role. My suggestion is to curse the guy who sold you the Absolutely Genuine Authentic Object You Want Thing - curse him in Klingon, I say, and move on in your life, move forward to a New You that does not need painful weights[1] to increase your Manhood extents, and audition as the New Trek Guy in the Simpsons- you ARE the new trek guy, no stop YOU MAKE ME CRY!!1
[1] actual spam received today
No mod points at the minute or you'd have them.
;-)
But... I work from home. With an eight month old and four other kids.
What's that you got... two pair? ROYAL FLUSH
> but you are making it seem like a company now
> controls Groklaw.
> or maybe you are trolling???
It's a serious question in the grandparent about PJ and Groklaw, not a Troll. The whole insurance thing seems completely evil to me, since it legitimizes the SCO attack: but Grok has done some of its best work in the weeks since she joined it, so it is clearly not supressing or distorting her work. Grok continues to be a beacon in the SCO storm.
I do wish PJ would use a journalistic-style full disclosure formula at the end of articles where she mentions indemnity insurance though: there have been a couple recently. We expect it of mouths-for-hire like Enderle and his MSFT affiliation after all.
And why does it limit itself to being Open Source Risk Management? Is there no risk involved in proprietary software? Grumble... OSDL wannabe... carpetbagging... old-think monetization attempt.... bah!!!
No one complains about paying real money for things that cost real money to reproduce.
What is the cost of copying 650MB of data around? $45? Linux proves that it is close to $0.
Yours is the same old, broken thinking that makes people call sharing digital copies of music and video "stealing", when the original is left intact.
No, blank credentials are accepted -- just click OK
The kernel source package at least is signed by SuSE and Caldera. I assume SuSE did all the heavy lifting and Caldera/SCOX just rubber-stamp what they are given.
Sure, it can hurt SCO Unix *users* to not have nmap support. The grandparent's point was getting from turning your back and being uncooperative to having a legal attack on SCO via the GPL is a journey.
See my post a bit lower down for a working URL.
/scolinux it asks for auth (but accepts blank credentials).
If you come in to the site at / it redirects to a broken URL.
If you come in to
If you ask me they are complying with the letter of the GPL while making every efffort to obfuscate the fact they are still freely giving away under the GPL what they are trying to charge $699 to idiots for.
http://linuxupdate.sco.com/scolinux/ has their full distro for download.
(Blank credentials work fine in the authentication dialog: just click OK).
The thing with SCOX is they say one thing and do quite another. Tricky and Litigous Bastards.
SCOX trash talk the GPL in the press and on their website, but it seems to me they make a big effort not to wake that sleeping GPL dragon.
Hence they are still giving away Linux sources on their linuxupdate.sco.com site, as required by the GPL for three years minimum.
That they disrespected it and tried to undermine the GPL may be enough for Fyodor to decide he's mad as hell and isn't taking it any more, but to make a legal case they actually have to have violated some specific term(s).
http://linuxupdate.sco.com/scolinux/SRPMS/
The thing is they are compliant to the GPL :-)
Today they put up a new web-based "buy a year's license for the SCO IP" thing on their website. But why bother when you can license any SCO IP under the GPL irrevocably and for free, from the same website? Its just madness from SCO.
The full URL for the parent package is here:
http://linuxupdate.sco.com/scolinux/update/RPMS.up dates/glibc-devel-2.2.5-213.i5 86.rpm
Here is the kernel mentioned in the grandparent post
http://linuxupdate.sco.com/scolinux/update/RPMS.up dates/kernel-source-2.4.21-138 .i586.rpm
(as mentioned in the parents they have set up some kind of HTTP auth, but blank credentials work fine)
What is bizarre is that the files are still being updated while all this crap is going on. For example http://linuxupdate.sco.com/scolinux/update/RPMS.up dates/mc-4.5.55-719.i586.rpm is dated 17th Feb 2004.
Further the RPMs are cryptographically signed with GPG keys for both
SuSE Package Signing Key [9C800ACA]
Caldera Security [C4970D31]
This is proof that the files are deliberately approved and issued by Caldera/SCOX, signing packages is the most protected step that can happen in a company for its sources and binaries.
Further when I look at /usr/src/linux-2.4.21-138/COPYING I see... the GPL v2 with a note at the top by Linus as usual.
Its like the arms and legs of SCOX don't know what the 455h013 is saying. HEY IDIOTS, you're still GIVING AWAY on your websites, under the GPL, the stuff you're trying to shake down companies for!! AND ITS GPG-SIGNED BY YOU THAT IT IS OKAY!!!!
They have even started up the wonderfully amateur Suprnova Radio. So I don't think they're feeling any kind of pinch.
I think the flat availability of content for free is going to be the future, one way or another: these guys are the advance guard.
Seriously the berry people should talk to them, imagine the power of a BT-swarm type network in residential areas with one of these wireless devices in each house.
There is only one content provider: suprnova.org. Now that'd be a business model suitable for 2004, build turnkey consumer media devices that hook up by Bittorrent to whoever has content.
Partial quote: ''Anytime the price dips too low for public consumption or a planned sale, they can make another outrageous announcement and pump it back up. ''
To understand SCO you need to stop taking their announcements seriously and look at them as a two-year-old misbehaving to get attention from its parents.
That's probably the most insightful and educational comment I ever read on Slashdot, well done dmaxwell.
I have watched SCOX stock price for a while and have been mystified by the way it succumbs to reality briefly and then magically defies gravity, especially surprising at times when there are no new events. In the scenario you describe the people with stock sales slated in the future have a strong motive for spending money now to keep that stock price high and level. That explains a LOT.
And if they really believed in the company's future as master of all *nix, would they be selling off that stock at a mere $17?
The reason I posted was to point out the irony that the guy at the top of this thread complaining about a lack of objectivity works himself for Microsoft, and failed to mention this in his astroturfing.
I was trying to decide whether to mod you as Flamebait when I went back and looked at your posting history to look for troll footprints.
:)''
'' I agree with you completely, and i work for microsoft
You could have mentioned that you are a MSFT employee in your impassioned defense of MSFT here. I have Box Toxen's ''Linux Security'' book, its pretty interesting. But your post seems to be a big ''we're all as bad as each other so ignore the fact I am evil'' astroturf.
Something you might want to chew on is the different value proposition of being given control of sources for software for free, vs being trained into a dependent monkey for whatever MSFT give you. Merry Christmas!
With thanks to Seth Johnson on the DMCA Discuss list for forwarding this earlier today:
t en tlicense.asp
Subject: [Patents] MS Office 2003 XML patented
Date: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 13:48:11 +0100
From: Carsten Svaneborg
Organization: www.mpipks-dresden.mpg.de
To: patents@aful.org
Hi! Just came across the following:
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/ip/format/xmlpa
Office 2003 XML Reference Schema Patent License
Microsoft may have patents and/or patent applications that are necessary for
you to license in order to make, sell, or distribute software programs that
read or write files that comply with the Microsoft specifications for the
Office Schemas.
So usage of MS Word XML files requires a patentlicense:
You are not licensed to distribute a Licensed Implementation under license
terms and conditions that prohibit the terms and conditions of this
license. You are not licensed to sublicense or transfer your rights.
The licence is royalty free, but GPL 7 requires the right to sublicence
patent rights to the people who obtain a GPL program from you.
so in other words Microsoft is using patents to prevent GPLed programs from
accessing the XML format that MS Word will be using.
This is very good timing, and goes to show how important it is to ensure
that the software patent directive has articles that protects
interoperativity from consituting patentinfringemet.
The reason its newsworthy is that contingency is usually had from any winnings in the court, the lawyers recokon up their chances, knowing their skillz, and decide its worth a try seeing as how good they think they are.
The SCOmbags have had to effectively pawn part of their company to the lawyers for several months to get them to do the work.
And if the company is bought out, the lawyers see their money regardless of the half-assed job they have done (see Groklaw).
VMware is not just for consolidating servers, last week I used it for the first time and was able to lose having a Windows machine for legacy apps for the first time. There are still two apps I need to use that Wine can't cope with, this is a really nice and fast solution. $299 for VMware makes sense because it allows everything to live on the one 3GHz laptop here, its a radical simplification.
.EXEs that can run under Wine (or Crossover Office more precisely) I run on Linux. So the VMware VM is a two-app ghetto that will never run anything else.
Another interesting point is that Windows XP running on Linux via VMWare is defanged somewhat security-wise. I only need to use IE inside the VM for Windows Update, for all other browsing and email its on the native Linux OS, which is prettier than XP anyway with KDE. The
If you have legacy apps in Windows, VMware is the answer, the parent could easily be right.
I should imagine the coils used by the RFID tags to get power and data should be detectable in the same way that metal detectors look for changes in their coil characteristics by the presence of the metal in the field. This should work even if the RFID tag is being quiescent waiting for a secret code to come in before it will talk, since it must suck power to listen.
"Cleaning behind the couch" will get a whole new meaning.
You scissors guys are right, but its more aesthetically pleasing if SCO are paper.
If I recall correctly, the creature that says this is twirlip of the mists :-)
The GPL requires Linux distributors to permit customers to freely copy the software.
During your holiday on Mars, SCO insisted that every Linux user must pay SCO ~$700 for the fantastic yet undefined SCO IP in Linux. That's where SCO slightly deviated from the "freely copy" bit.
IBM rock and SCO paper.