"No, no, no. This is the NEW Pentagon. They're here to help developing countries. If they need some power, we'll give it to them."
You say that humorously, and no doubt there is SOME Evil Bastard ( Last name starts with a C and ends with a Y ) who is thinking about how to re-purpose this.
BUT
Consider the implications of a Foreign Policy consisting of "We give ground stations and FREE ELECTRICITY to our friends." ( conversely, We can shut the FREE ENERGY off if you become an enemy. "Have fun buying oil and coal, enemies, your economy is now officially 3rd rate..." )
"I agree completely. Let's bring the troops home out of IRaq, right now, as 17% is a total failure, and then let's shut down every federal program that does not have a 17% success rate."
I understand you're going for reductio-ad-absurdum, but you're *almost* on the right track.
I suggest you're not going far enough, and the PROPER course is to shutdown EVERY Federal program NOT DIRECTLY AUTHORIZED BY THE CONSTITUTION.
Sure, your State taxes will go up a little, but your Federal taxes will be become almost non-existent as 99% of Federal Employees find themselves looking for honest work.
Oh, and what happens to troops deployed absent a Congressional Declaration of War in that event? Yup. They can pay their OWN AIRFARE BACK.
(Ok, we'll airlift the troops back, but Iraq is getting a helluva bill for the shit we leave behind)
"Why not just go back to using hammers and chisels on stone tablets? But seriously, why can't I fill out my ballot online, print it, and either mail it in or hand deliver it? I can do this with an airline boarding pass..."
Don't you think your VOTE is worth MORE than a disposable boarding pass?
They wouldn't have happened at all, as our Allies would get ground-stations, too, and our Foreign Policy would consist of "Our Friends Get All The Free Electricity They Can Use".
And Saudi Arabia wouldn't have had the capital to fund the terrorists, would they?
This technology really is transformative. And I suspect it won't get green-lighted because it upsets too many peoples' business models.
To keep the Buggy Whip Manufacturers in business, we deny our children The Stars.
The infrastructure developed to implement this project is pretty much the infrastructure needed to leave earth and visit other places on a regular basis.
You get the Electricity, and Access to the Universe is gravy.
I don't believe those sound recordings meet the Constitutional Requirement for special protection under under Article I Section 8, reading " To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;"
I don't believe ANY of the Sound Recordings in ANY way "Promote the progress of science and useful arts"....
I think the right assumption to make after you're snatched off the streets is that you're going to be murdered anyway, so some might consider a lifetime in the camps to be an improvement.
I think the flaw in rubberhose crypto is it's an INTELLIGENT response to the situation, namely, how to you render the process of coercive interrogation essentially pointless?
The problem with that strategy, is it relies on the torturers being reasonable enough to UNDERSTAND that torture is unreliable for anything but terrorizing the locals into submission, and *won't* satisfy the requirements for gathering intelligence.
If the iPhone is so poorly engineered that some simple tweaking by some "Shadetree Mechanics" can disable it, it seems that the fault is in the engineering, not the "Shadetree Mechanics".
(1) Common carrier means a corporation that holds itself out to provide service to the public for hire to provide conduit services including voice, data, or video by electrical, electronic, electromagnetic or photonic means.
Hmmm... I think VZ reversed itself because it realized they had well and truly screwed up.
The SUITS are Civil actions. You don't need to break a law to be liable for damages in a Civil Actions.
The CRIMES are generally violations of the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unwarranted searches and seizures. 18 USC 2511 seems to cover it...
(ii) Notwithstanding any other law, providers of wire or electronic communication service, their officers, employees, and agents, landlords, custodians, or other persons, are authorized to provide information, facilities, or technical assistance to persons authorized by law to intercept wire, oral, or electronic communications or to conduct electronic surveillance, as defined in section 101 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, if such provider, its officers, employees, or agents, landlord, custodian, or other specified person, has been provided with-- (A) a court order directing such assistance signed by the authorizing judge, or (B) a certification in writing by a person specified in section 2518 (7) of this title or the Attorney General of the United States that no warrant or court order is required by law, that all statutory requirements have been met, and that the specified assistance is required, setting forth the period of time during which the provision of the information, facilities, or technical assistance is authorized and specifying the information, facilities, or technical assistance required. No provider of wire or electronic communication service, officer, employee, or agent thereof, or landlord, custodian, or other specified person shall disclose the existence of any interception or surveillance or the device used to accomplish the interception or surveillance with respect to which the person has been furnished a court order or certification under this chapter, except as may otherwise be required by legal process and then only after prior notification to the Attorney General or to the principal prosecuting attorney of a State or any political subdivision of a State, as may be appropriate. Any such disclosure, shall render such person liable for the civil damages provided for in section 2520. No cause of action shall lie in any court against any provider of wire or electronic communication service, its officers, employees, or agents, landlord, custodian, or other specified person for providing information, facilities, or assistance in accordance with the terms of a court order, statutory authorization, or certification under this chapter.
So, if they OBEY THE LAW, the have no issues. They DID NOT OBEY THE LAW, so they need to be held accountable..
"but the obligation in terms of protecting its citizens to regulate what kinds of stuff you are deciding to put into the air"
Is that "Provide for the Common Defense" or "Promote the General Welfare", as I don't see a specific section or Amendment delegating that authority to the Federal Government.
Now, if it's IMPORTANT, all you need to do is pass an amendment, and you're all set.
"The hung Nazis committed genocide and mass murder. Don't you see a little bit of a difference between that and saying here is the corner you can set your equipment up in?"
In scale, certainly, but it's the millions of banal acts such as this which add up.
By not saying "Fuck Off", AT&T gave the Bush Administration just a LITTLE BIT more validation for their totally criminal acts.
Ending up, I suppose in the hallucination that the fifth amendment says "Citizen" or some such shit, and the torture of someone for 1300 days before pretending to *then* give them due process and equal protection.
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"No, no, no. This is the NEW Pentagon. They're here to help developing countries. If they need some power, we'll give it to them."
You say that humorously, and no doubt there is SOME Evil Bastard ( Last name starts with a C and ends with a Y ) who is thinking about how to re-purpose this.
BUT
Consider the implications of a Foreign Policy consisting of "We give ground stations and FREE ELECTRICITY to our friends." ( conversely, We can shut the FREE ENERGY off if you become an enemy. "Have fun buying oil and coal, enemies, your economy is now officially 3rd rate..." )
"I agree completely. Let's bring the troops home out of IRaq, right now, as 17% is a total failure, and then let's shut down every federal program that does not have a 17% success rate."
I understand you're going for reductio-ad-absurdum, but you're *almost* on the right track.
I suggest you're not going far enough, and the PROPER course is to shutdown EVERY Federal program NOT DIRECTLY AUTHORIZED BY THE CONSTITUTION.
Sure, your State taxes will go up a little, but your Federal taxes will be become almost non-existent as 99% of Federal Employees find themselves looking for honest work.
Oh, and what happens to troops deployed absent a Congressional Declaration of War in that event? Yup. They can pay their OWN AIRFARE BACK.
(Ok, we'll airlift the troops back, but Iraq is getting a helluva bill for the shit we leave behind)
Quickie One-Liner to merge DROP list with iptables is located here:
http://robotterror.com/site/wiki/aggressive_spam_and_zombie_blocking_via_spamhaus_org_drop_and_iptables
Of the 18 benchmarks the Iraqi Government was REQUIRED to meet, they met 3.
That's 17%. On exactly what planet is 17 out of 100 considered any sort of success?
If Moveon was wrong about Petraeus, how come he hasn't sued them?
More importantly, Petraeus LIED TO YOU. Things *SUCK* in Iraq. Why support him?
"Why not just go back to using hammers and chisels on stone tablets? But seriously, why can't I fill out my ballot online, print it, and either mail it in or hand deliver it? I can do this with an airline boarding pass..."
Don't you think your VOTE is worth MORE than a disposable boarding pass?
Well, anyone who is ANYBODY simply flies charter anyway!
They wouldn't have happened at all, as our Allies would get ground-stations, too, and our Foreign Policy would consist of "Our Friends Get All The Free Electricity They Can Use".
And Saudi Arabia wouldn't have had the capital to fund the terrorists, would they?
This technology really is transformative. And I suspect it won't get green-lighted because it upsets too many peoples' business models.
To keep the Buggy Whip Manufacturers in business, we deny our children The Stars.
Ok, consider this:
The infrastructure developed to implement this project is pretty much the infrastructure needed to leave earth and visit other places on a regular basis.
You get the Electricity, and Access to the Universe is gravy.
Open and Shut?
I don't believe those sound recordings meet the Constitutional Requirement for special protection under under Article I Section 8, reading " To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;"
I don't believe ANY of the Sound Recordings in ANY way "Promote the progress of science and useful arts"....
So, that's where you guys got the idea of "Thoughtcrime"!
And guess what?
No matter what practices TM puts into place, the scalper-scum will continue to dominate the market?
Why, you may ask?
Because the scalper-scum have moles working in TicketMaster's IT department.
Good luck finding them, guys....
Does the product of a record company satisfy the Constitutional requirement for "promoting the progress of science and the useful arts"?
Yeah, but IIRC, PHI NOT TO BE disclosed must be maintained separately from the PHI which can be disclosed.
I d/l'd it and ran it, and the fonts/dialogs/fields don't format up right on my browser, making it hard to read, fill in dialogs, etc...
FF2 on Fedora 7, so I dunno...
I think the right assumption to make after you're snatched off the streets is that you're going to be murdered anyway, so some might consider a lifetime in the camps to be an improvement.
I think the flaw in rubberhose crypto is it's an INTELLIGENT response to the situation, namely, how to you render the process of coercive interrogation essentially pointless?
The problem with that strategy, is it relies on the torturers being reasonable enough to UNDERSTAND that torture is unreliable for anything but terrorizing the locals into submission, and *won't* satisfy the requirements for gathering intelligence.
And the idea is why Rubberhose Crypto was developed.
It had setup the system so that there could never be any confidence that ALL the encryption keys have been turned over.
If the iPhone is so poorly engineered that some simple tweaking by some "Shadetree Mechanics" can disable it, it seems that the fault is in the engineering, not the "Shadetree Mechanics".
NY Pubic Service Law.
(1) Common carrier means a corporation that holds
itself out to provide service to the public for hire to provide conduit
services including voice, data, or video by electrical, electronic,
electromagnetic or photonic means.
Hmmm... I think VZ reversed itself because it realized they had well and truly screwed up.
It's not "Interstate Commerce" if it's Private Property used by a Sovereign Citizen, is it?
It's just OWNING PROPERTY and USING YOUR PROPERTY as you see fit, isn't it?
So, are you suggesting that the US isn't a "Free Society", and there isn't an absolute right to own property?
I would suggest that if REALLY thing it's appropriate to regulate, you push for a proper Amendment delegating that authority.
Um.. You're mixing up the concepts a bit.
The SUITS are Civil actions. You don't need to break a law to be liable for damages in a Civil Actions.
The CRIMES are generally violations of the Fourth Amendment prohibition on unwarranted searches and seizures. 18 USC 2511 seems to cover it...
(ii) Notwithstanding any other law, providers of wire or electronic communication service, their officers, employees, and agents, landlords, custodians, or other persons, are authorized to provide information, facilities, or technical assistance to persons authorized by law to intercept wire, oral, or electronic communications or to conduct electronic surveillance, as defined in section 101 of the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act of 1978, if such provider, its officers, employees, or agents, landlord, custodian, or other specified person, has been provided with--
(A) a court order directing such assistance signed by the authorizing judge, or
(B) a certification in writing by a person specified in section 2518 (7) of this title or the Attorney General of the United States that no warrant or court order is required by law, that all statutory requirements have been met, and that the specified assistance is required,
setting forth the period of time during which the provision of the information, facilities, or technical assistance is authorized and specifying the information, facilities, or technical assistance required. No provider of wire or electronic communication service, officer, employee, or agent thereof, or landlord, custodian, or other specified person shall disclose the existence of any interception or surveillance or the device used to accomplish the interception or surveillance with respect to which the person has been furnished a court order or certification under this chapter, except as may otherwise be required by legal process and then only after prior notification to the Attorney General or to the principal prosecuting attorney of a State or any political subdivision of a State, as may be appropriate. Any such disclosure, shall render such person liable for the civil damages provided for in section 2520. No cause of action shall lie in any court against any provider of wire or electronic communication service, its officers, employees, or agents, landlord, custodian, or other specified person for providing information, facilities, or assistance in accordance with the terms of a court order, statutory authorization, or certification under this chapter.
So, if they OBEY THE LAW, the have no issues. They DID NOT OBEY THE LAW, so they need to be held accountable..
Unless you're soft on crime.
"but the obligation in terms of protecting its citizens to regulate what kinds of stuff you are deciding to put into the air"
Is that "Provide for the Common Defense" or "Promote the General Welfare", as I don't see a specific section or Amendment delegating that authority to the Federal Government.
Now, if it's IMPORTANT, all you need to do is pass an amendment, and you're all set.
Those who do not resist, give their consent.
"The hung Nazis committed genocide and mass murder. Don't you see a little bit of a difference between that and saying here is the corner you can set your equipment up in?"
In scale, certainly, but it's the millions of banal acts such as this which add up.
By not saying "Fuck Off", AT&T gave the Bush Administration just a LITTLE BIT more validation for their totally criminal acts.
Ending up, I suppose in the hallucination that the fifth amendment says "Citizen" or some such shit, and the torture of someone for 1300 days before pretending to *then* give them due process and equal protection.
Nazis were hanged at Nuremberg to prove the point that "Just Following Orders" was not a sufficient excuse.