The reality is that it is compulsory to turn up at a voting booth, but it is not really enforced.
If you don't turn up, they send you a letter asking to explain why. You can give any reason you want, something like you had car problems and that is the end of it.
If you don't respond, the fine is only $10 (last time I looked) and not really enforced.
It is more a mental thing, everyone has the mentality that they have to vote, which in the long run is not a bad thing.
Sure beats living somewhere without a true democratic electoral system.
I agree though, doing a CMS in PHP is such a kludge, it would be good if there were some good solid java alternatives that could match the ease of use of something like Joomla or Drupal. Something using of the of popular frameworks such as Tapestry would be good as well.
As for hosting, there are plenty of VPS services out there that are quite cheap and host server based java applications just fine.
That's just the tip of the iceberg and I'm not going to do any more work proving that things have broken because with your attitude I don't see you admitting to a mistake.
This is quite laughable. Both of these links have nothing to do with the fantasy that you are trying to propogate.
OK, slashdot user id's are a measure of programming knowledge?
No but AC posting is often the measure of a clueless troll, not always but in your case it seems to fit well.
Show me a java application that actually does something useful in a mission critical environment that performs better than a C/C++ application for the same task and is truly platform independent.
If you look you will find there are plenty of java applications that do what they need to do, are as fast as any C/C++ application , are robust, easy to maintain and are cross platform. In fact Java applications are most likely doing a whole bunch better these days compared to C/C++ applications in the business arena.
Your attitude is very 90's, Java has come a long way since then. I suggest you grow up and have another look at whats out there.
Clearly you are a youngin that has been indoctrinated by educators because it seems that java is all they will teach nowadays. I fail to understand why. I assume its laziness, lack of funding and loss of touch with the real world.
I find it amusing that all of the people posting about their positive experiences with Java have user id's less than 50000, meaning they have been around here quite a while.
The trolls are all anonymously sprouting FUD.... maybe the anonymous Trolls need to come out of thier holes and visit the real world now and then.
I find podcasts a great time saver for keeping up with things you are interested in. Not all of mine are technology or computer related but several are.
Although not the only source of info, you can listen to them on your commute or while doing other mundane things.
As for Java, I find http://javaposse.com/ a great listen with interesting bits of info even if I don't agree with everything they come out with.
These figures are skewed by being "Globally" based.
The fact is that the average person or business in Vietnam could never afford the real cost of software at American prices. Can you imagine paying half of your years wages for your OS and Office package - just aint going to happen.
Until Microsoft or others price the software realisticly into these markets, or there are viable alternatives that people will use in these countries they are going to use pirated softare.
Just go the whole java way - use something like tapestry:httpjakartaapacheorgtapestry Throw away the the parameter parsing and the buggy nightmare that is scripting languages imbedded in html.
I have tried going back to the old PHP - JSP way of doing things and it is sooo painful.
Tao Linux (RHEL 3 Clone) for business use which mainly just includes a bunch of utility boxes and Fedora Core (latest) at home and for some other less critical functions.
Our criteria was ease of use, stability, easy updating and a distribution free of monetary contraints. For security reasons we stick to one distribution and for ease of use I ussually install webmin.
Debian would be my next choice but there are others in the department that are not linux experts. They find Redhat easier - until I bring them up to speed I would not consider Debian.
I know this is/. but the problem especially in this one is that most people here are shooting from the hip and not bothering to read the story.
The Story is about the US changing the laws regarding GM Seeds - not the Iraqis changing them. Previously in Iraq (and it still should be) it was illegal to sell a seed and say that you could not save the seeds from the plants. It is a pretty simple principle - you buy the seed, you can breed from it.
One way of looking at it is that seeds always have been kind of GPL - you get them for free.. and any changes you make are passed on to others.. who again improve them. This one is about companies getting something that was produced by someone else.. making small changes and then trying to licence it back - license something that was like GPL and not thier total IP in the first place. Iraq rightly IMO had laws against this.
It should be that if GM seed companies don't like the Iraqi law then they should not sell thier seeds in Iraq.
Nobody in Iraq would want to be controlled by a foreign country and have thier food supplies dependent on seeds from that country.
Again as a gladly non-US voter this discussion amazes me.
If you really want a victory for alternative policical voices then push hard and jump and down for a democratic preferential voting system. This way you could have 10 or more candidates and the person that was ultimately most popular would win - not the person that splits the least number of votes.
If you had a preferential voting system then you might be discussing the merits of a first vote for Nader instead of worrying about loosing a vote by voting for him. Your second and third votes may be the ones that ultimately count.
As an Australian voter, where everything is Preferential, I cannot imagine having to use such an archaic "First Past the Post" system as they use in the US. I am also amazed there is not a major movement for change there.
If you don't know what a preferential voting system is.. have a read..
You are obviously struggling with the difference between a survey and a vote. Voting is pretty straight forward, you don't have to try to quantify things.
If you don't want to vote for anyone.. then just don't tick anything. Let someone else make the decision for you.
Got nothing to do with preferential voting though.
Go do some reading on preferential voting and come back when your a touch more educated.
I totally agree with the above post, more people in the US should be thinking like this.
The problem is not that Nader is running. The problem is the antiquated, undemocratic voting system in the US that does not allow people to eventually elect the most popular candidate. The candidate that gets in when there is more than two people is the one that splits the vote the least.
In Australia - every election is preferential and it would be hard to imagine anything else. Personally I always give the candidates with leanings like Nader my first vote - but my second and third preferences will then go to my next preferences.. usually more popular candidates. My vote is never wasted by voting for a lesser candidate. The good thing is that occasionally many people think the same and candidates like Nader sometimes get in.
I still can't believe people are not pushing for this, although I also understand that the major parties would not like it.
The current un-democratic system ensures that it is always going to be a two party race. Sad really.
Would it not be better to be able to vote for say Nader first.. then your choice of candidate second. That way the person that people most want is the person that gets in - not the person who splits the votes the least.
The reality is with Windows in China, the cost of buying a boxed version of Windows is probabally about a month's wages for the average person and a whole lot of money for the average business. You then have to take into account the cost of office and other applications.
This is the reason that Microsoft can throw what money it wants at China, in the end the average chinese person won't be able, nor will they be willing to pay the prices that Microsoft will require in USD.
If these additional monetary sweetners from Microsoft to the Chinese government cause them to crack down more on counterfiet Microsoft software then all it is going to do is force people and businesses to look for alternatives, probabally Linux and the like.
The thing that worries me that is any product that is tied to a company such as this needs to make money for that company. The first thing they will try to do is get it established as some sort of standard, something that seems to be happening. Then what happens is you get bugged endlessly to use their "services", or maybe the product is not fully functional without some sort of subscription. I have used Nautilus and all of it's asscociated bits. It seems to be that it does not do a real lot, except give them a window into your desktop for thier services and tie everything into it as a dependency.
Geez.. a nice little file manager would have done ok. Who needs them.
It's pretty lame when they are adding these places in with thier statistics. The cost of buying US made software in these countries is astronomical if you look at the average wage.
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The reality is that it is compulsory to turn up at a voting booth, but it is not really enforced.
If you don't turn up, they send you a letter asking to explain why. You can give any reason
you want, something like you had car problems and that is the end of it.
If you don't respond, the fine is only $10 (last time I looked) and not really enforced.
It is more a mental thing, everyone has the mentality that they have to vote, which in the long run is
not a bad thing.
Sure beats living somewhere without a true democratic electoral system.
It's tested, mature .. forked and works well with a number or protocols.
http://www.quagga.net/
GPokr .. by a guy named Ryan Drews.
...
It is basically a GWT Programming experiment or example that does a really good job.
Completely free and great fun with no strings attached. I found out about it general java programming news and have been hooked ever since.
check it out : http://www.gpokr.com/
One of the good things is that it has a cool level headed programmer running it it
Maybe you should try using both and then you will understand.
The fact that you think that Java is a server side scripting language shows you lack knowledge in this area.
For me, I have been the PHP route, never again.
There are a few out there. Alfresco http://www.alfresco.com/ looks the most interesting.
I agree though, doing a CMS in PHP is such a kludge, it would be good if there were some good solid java alternatives that could match the ease of use of something like Joomla or Drupal. Something using of the of popular frameworks such as Tapestry would be good as well.
As for hosting, there are plenty of VPS services out there that are quite cheap and host server based java applications just fine.
You get such links as:
http://developer.apple.com/qa/qa2006/qa1474.html
http://forums.macosxhints.com/showthread.php?t=47
That's just the tip of the iceberg and I'm not going to do any more work proving that things have broken because with your attitude I don't see you admitting to a mistake.
This is quite laughable. Both of these links have nothing to do with the fantasy that you are trying to propogate.
Your credibility = 0
OK, slashdot user id's are a measure of programming knowledge?
No but AC posting is often the measure of a clueless troll, not always but in your case it seems to fit well.
Show me a java application that actually does something useful in a mission critical environment that performs better than a C/C++ application for the same task and is truly platform independent.
If you look you will find there are plenty of java applications that do what they need to do, are as fast as any C/C++ application , are robust, easy to maintain and are cross platform. In fact Java applications are most likely doing a whole bunch better these days compared to C/C++ applications in the business arena.
Your attitude is very 90's, Java has come a long way since then. I suggest you grow up and have another look at whats out there.
Clearly you are a youngin that has been indoctrinated by educators because it seems that java is all they will teach nowadays. I fail to understand why. I assume its laziness, lack of funding and loss of touch with the real world.
.... maybe the anonymous Trolls need to come out of thier holes and visit the real world now and then.
I find it amusing that all of the people posting about their positive experiences with Java have user id's less than 50000, meaning they have been around here quite a while.
The trolls are all anonymously sprouting FUD
I find podcasts a great time saver for keeping up with things you are interested in. Not all of mine are technology or computer related but several are.
Although not the only source of info, you can listen to them on your commute or while doing other mundane things.
As for Java, I find http://javaposse.com/ a great listen with interesting bits of info even if I don't agree with everything they come out with.
These figures are skewed by being "Globally" based.
The fact is that the average person or business in Vietnam could never afford the real cost of software at American prices. Can you imagine paying half of your years wages for your OS and Office package - just aint going to happen.
Until Microsoft or others price the software realisticly into these markets, or there are viable alternatives that people will use in these countries they are going to use pirated softare.
And good on em I reckon.
That's way too many frameworks. I just use one of them
Nope you don't - here is a quote from your link:
FreeMarker is not a Web application framework. It is suitable for a component in a Web application framework,
Maybe you should consider using a real framework like tapestry. http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/
If you know J2EE then you also should have no problems with Tapestry http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/ or JSF.
PHP and JSP and the like are nothing but a parameterised buggy nightmare.
http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/
Just go the whole java way - use something like tapestry:httpjakartaapacheorgtapestry Throw away the the parameter parsing and the buggy nightmare that is scripting languages imbedded in html.
I have tried going back to the old PHP - JSP way of doing things and it is sooo painful.
Tao Linux (RHEL 3 Clone) for business use which mainly just includes a bunch of utility boxes and Fedora Core (latest) at home and for some other less critical functions.
Our criteria was ease of use, stability, easy updating and a distribution free of monetary contraints. For security reasons we stick to one distribution and for ease of use I ussually install webmin.
Debian would be my next choice but there are others in the department that are not linux experts. They find Redhat easier - until I bring them up to speed I would not consider Debian.
Seems to be working quite well for us.
I know this is /. but the problem especially in this one is that most people here are shooting from the hip and not bothering to read the story.
.. and any changes you make are passed on to others .. who again improve them. This one is about companies getting something that was produced by someone else .. making small changes and then trying to licence it back - license something that was like GPL and not thier total IP in the first place. Iraq rightly IMO had laws against this.
The Story is about the US changing the laws regarding GM Seeds - not the Iraqis changing them. Previously in Iraq (and it still should be) it was illegal to sell a seed and say that you could not save the seeds from the plants. It is a pretty simple principle - you buy the seed, you can breed from it.
One way of looking at it is that seeds always have been kind of GPL - you get them for free
It should be that if GM seed companies don't like the Iraqi law then they should not sell thier seeds in Iraq.
Nobody in Iraq would want to be controlled by a foreign country and have thier food supplies dependent on seeds from that country.
Read the story dudes.
Again as a gladly non-US voter this discussion amazes me.
.. have a read ..
If you really want a victory for alternative policical voices then push hard and jump and down for a democratic preferential voting system. This way you could have 10 or more candidates and the person that was ultimately most popular would win - not the person that splits the least number of votes.
If you had a preferential voting system then you might be discussing the merits of a first vote for Nader instead of worrying about loosing a vote by voting for him. Your second and third votes may be the ones that ultimately count.
As an Australian voter, where everything is Preferential, I cannot imagine having to use such an archaic "First Past the Post" system as they use in the US. I am also amazed there is not a major movement for change there.
If you don't know what a preferential voting system is
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferential_voting/
The funny thing is that both the methods you mention .. and several others that you left other all fall under the banner of preferential voting.
.... but it has to be better than the antiquated and undemocratic system they have now.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferential_voting/
The US is smart enough to pick the one that suits it best
You are obviously struggling with the difference between a survey and a vote. Voting is pretty straight forward, you don't have to try to quantify things.
.. then just don't tick anything. Let someone else make the decision for you.
If you don't want to vote for anyone
Got nothing to do with preferential voting though.
Go do some reading on preferential voting and come back when your a touch more educated.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preferential_voting/
I totally agree with the above post, more people in the US should be thinking like this.
.. usually more popular candidates. My vote is never wasted by voting for a lesser candidate. The good thing is that occasionally many people think the same and candidates like Nader sometimes get in.
The problem is not that Nader is running. The problem is the antiquated, undemocratic voting system in the US that does not allow people to eventually elect the most popular candidate. The candidate that gets in when there is more than two people is the one that splits the vote the least.
In Australia - every election is preferential and it would be hard to imagine anything else. Personally I always give the candidates with leanings like Nader my first vote - but my second and third preferences will then go to my next preferences
is a preferential voting system.
.. then your choice of candidate second. That way the person that people most want is the person that gets in - not the person who splits the votes the least.
Then every vote would count.
I still can't believe people are not pushing for this, although I also understand that the major parties would not like it.
The current un-democratic system ensures that it is always going to be a two party race. Sad really.
Would it not be better to be able to vote for say Nader first
The reality is with Windows in China, the cost of buying a boxed version of Windows is probabally about a month's wages for the average person and a whole lot of money for the average business. You then have to take into account the cost of office and other applications.
This is the reason that Microsoft can throw what money it wants at China, in the end the average chinese person won't be able, nor will they be willing to pay the prices that Microsoft will require in USD.
If these additional monetary sweetners from Microsoft to the Chinese government cause them to crack down more on counterfiet Microsoft software then all it is going to do is force people and businesses to look for alternatives, probabally Linux and the like.
The thing that worries me that is any product that is tied to a company such as this needs to make money for that company. The first thing they will try to do is get it established as some sort of standard, something that seems to be happening. Then what happens is you get bugged endlessly to use their "services", or maybe the product is not fully functional without some sort of subscription. I have used Nautilus and all of it's asscociated bits. It seems to be that it does not do a real lot, except give them a window into your desktop for thier services and tie everything into it as a dependency.
.. a nice little file manager would have done ok. Who needs them.
Geez
It's pretty lame when they are adding these places in with thier statistics. The cost of buying US made software in these countries is astronomical if you look at the average wage.