But the webpage only has the official translation, (who needs that, it's on every chinese Cola) it doesn't have the original funny tranlation. I can't pull my hair out and translate this wax tadpole back to cantonese and still sound like Coca-cola. Maybe Biblefish can help me:)
Anonymous auction never works, that's why you need to build up some credential through ebay. I like the idea of smart card, which should be able to transact small amount of money over the net anonymously. These will encourage illegal selling though, and then FBI start selling "Un-registered Photoshop CD!" to trap you.... But it's a good thing nevertheless, much better than MSN passport. Consider this scenerio: You buy a smart card from the newsstand, gets a unique number on the card, say A13764789756, and then you slice you card in the smartcard reader, tell you computer you wish to send 10 dollars to another smartcard, that has a id C76468976432, varla, the guy gets the money and send you his used "The Net" poster. Note I don't want the smartcard carrys password and personal id, it's purely anonymous with open source smartcard driver. That's good enough. That isn't much advcantage to transfer large amount of money in high speed for Joe Sixpact. You want to kick your tire before making the dicision anyway. CY
Okay I'm chinese, my chinese software can read but not write chinese. And I will try my best to help you guys communicate. I'm not going to post it top level since nobody will scoll down to read it.
I don't seem to find any discussion of GPL license except in the bottom, (most of them are installation related discussion) here is one post by blus in 9/30/99 2.05am entile "I'm very disappinted" (eng translation following) -------------------------------------- â±ÕËÐÄÔÌÐò£ÒѾΥÁËGPL ½¼¼ÊõËøËÀÔÚ"bp linux"ÉÏ£Íü¼ÇÁËÓÐ ÜàÈËÏmandrake,openlinux,slackware,turbolinux, redhat,debian... ü±ðÌá±õÐÅý...±ÈÎÒÖÀÐÅÃÓÐÂÉÐÓ¦£ ÔÚÖÐúãÅÔúÂëÄÈÜÄÑ£ÎÒÏàÐÅÖÓÐ×ñÊØ ÅÔúÂëÄæÔòÅÄÜÕ£ ×ö¼öÉÔÚÔ¼ÉÏÉý¼ÄrpmÕæÄÜÄÑÂð£ó¼ÒÉÒÔÈ¥ ÌÍåÄCLE¼Æ®£ËûÃÇ×öÄÒÜÍêÕû£ bpÄÈÊÇÑÛϼ¼Êõ×îÊÊÓÃÄÖÐÎĽ£ÎÒÔ½ÒʱÄÌÊÓ ÙÁËËü£ ---------------------------- translation (paraphasing) Close the nuclear source process (my note: something like that), it's already GPL violation. Locking the chinese-lize technoligy in "bp linux", you forget a lot of people like mandrake, slackware, turbolinux, openlinux, redhat, debrian...
DOn't even mention that you promised it.. I know promise can't enforced by law. Working opensource in China is pretty hard, but I believe only following the rule of opensource can develop. working a few upgrading rpm that base on the "original release" (my note, I don't know what this refer to) is that hard? People can go see taiwan's CLE project, they are doing pretty complete!
bp is currently the most fit chinese plan (my note: plan or project) I don't want to see the temparary shortsight ruins it! -------------------------------------
okay, now is the respond. It should be from the writer. "hahalee" --------------------------------------- CLE 0.9É! ¼ÙÕ×ÁË. ÒödistributionÀïÃæÒÄ ÄÎ÷ÂúàÄ. ±ÈÈçË, PineÄhz±àÂë½âÂë, ±ÈÈçkmail Ädebug, ÓÐÏÍscriptÈÈ... ÎÒÃÇÎÒÀÀ±ðÄ distributor½øÐÐÈí¼üÎ. anyway, ÈçûÄãüÏ previewÄÇÑùÄÐÐ,ÒÉÒÔ¼ÌÐøÊÓÃ.
Take a look at CLE0.9, already a few gig. There are a lot of thing need to be changed in a distribution. Say, Pine's hz translation (my note: something like that, it;s getting technical) Or the kmail's debug, or the system's script, etc. We can't rely on other distribution to maintain the package. Anyway, if you like the Preview way of release(my note: now this can be interpred as "distribution" I know it's critical) You can keep using it.
About opensource, we promise providing source in the offical release. This is merely a stable debug version. The opensource's theory did mention the "flee market development model" (my note: yeah that's as close as I can get:) Eng->chi->Eng:)) But we are currently unable to run the internet development organization. In china is hard to do opensource, but I think the difficulty is not only in us. I think there are 2 point, one is the envirnment, people should accept(my note: or "admit") opensource, respect opensource. two is people should have the enthusiasm and ability to contribute. Right now how many people crazy like us, working opensource as our only job? ---------------------------------- translation finish. okay. I do have some opinion. But I think my tranlation is good enough for people to draw their conclusion. Please remember, if they are not responding, the chances are they can't express themslves in eng correctly! (well why don't you speak in chinese?) Anyway, don't jump on them too quick.
Regarding the "commie" comments, heh I just come back from a.s.baseball.yankees, I think I can take those crap. I still have 4 page anthro paper to write! Got to go!
in case I miss something, my real address is name0000@yahoo.com
Just for what it's worth, I think you all are talking out of your asses. Here are some facts. 1)/. had the funnest poll 2 polls in a row in the last month.(cereal moscot and "your favorite poll option")
2) There weren't much midnight posting then, now Roblimo takes up that job and we finally have something to read at night.
3) Jon Katz is actually getting better.
4) The greatest weblog interactive invension ever, online interview. Go read your Alan Cox and ESR interviews again and think if you have seen something like that. (okay so they actually POST in/. one year ago, but that's no comparison to what they spend time and energy to write in the interviews.
5) So you think it's getting boring, then why don't you find another comparative weblog/geek portal/news site? Because you can't. You you you, anyone has suggestion? No? Case close.
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You can hide/show as much privacy with a login name as without one, it's a life style. And there's nothing wrong with score 0. Everybody can read them by default. Set your preference to -1 and stop whining.
This is just like when I play with the earlier version of win95, when you change your font to 36pt or so, and click "OK", you are screwed, because it's impossible to change it back. The newer and bigger "ok" button is out of the screen area, and you can't touch it!
Just wait a moment to think about the surreal situation.
Sorry if this is a double posting,/. has no returned page.
The funnest thing is these palm-wandabes can play.mov, but what can you play on 8meg memory? Or the max 96 meg of Compact Flash? Before a handhold device can hold 1Gig of data, it's simply stupid to add the video feature on a tiny gadget. And there is only one thing can do it. No portable dvd player doesn't count, because it can't play X-file futurama and rare Humphrey Bogart movies. (of course, I can't afford it.)
And before somebody want to remind me that they can play mp3. These are the answers 1) My Rio cost 50 bucks 2) No PDA has 32meg build-in memory 3) My Rio runs 12 hours on an AA 4) Visor will play mp3, (the add-in doesn't have its own battery source thouh)
Compaq already replace its fansy 12 godzilliom color screen with a black and white, now all it need is a decent OS:)
The funnest thing is these palm-wandabes can play.mov, but what can you play on 8meg memory? Or the max 96 meg of Compact Flash? Before a handhold device can hold 1Gig of data, it's simply stupid to add the video feature on a tiny gadget. And there is only one thing can do it. No portable dvd player doesn't count, because it can't play X-file futurama and rare Humphrey Bogart movies. (of course, I can't afford it.)
And before somebody want to remind me that they can play mp3. These are the answers 1) My Rio cost 50 bucks 2) No PDA has 32meg build-in memory 3) My Rio runs 12 hours on an AA 4) Visor will play mp3, (the add-in doesn't have its own battery source thouh)
Compaq already replace its fansy 12 godzilliom color screen with a black and white, now all it need is a decent OS:)
Actually, the Hemos story is longer, it probably took him 10 minutes to come up with the witty comment.
Time to hack a perl script that can randomly generate
"boy I thought to_be_replaced1 was silly"; "Mmmm, Slashdot hasn't had a offcal to_be_replaced2 yet " "back when I was in the army, we have to to_be_replaced_by_roblimo"
CNN slashdotted, msnbc slashdotted (not by/. gang, but can you find a better name) Only foxnews.com is work. CNN cable is talking about moneyline...I can't afford foxnews cable and msnbc channel 43 finally has a "u.s. team going to japan " flash.
Arrrkk! Infomation starvation, if the news server can't feed news in a break out accident, then what good is internet.
wrong you are. ebay sells screen estate. A "bold" of the title cost 2 bucks, a "gift icon" cost a couple of bucks, and the "feature" that put you on the top of the search result costs more.
It doesn't use graphical banner doesn't there is no ad.
And/. has far and away the highest context:ad bnner ratio. Nobody can criticize slashdot unless he reads article in thread, with every feature, picture, etc. turned on.
Sigh, guess I read too much variety. When I said series, I meant tv series, as in half-hour cartoon/live-action series. The video go movie/tv routine is always bomb horribly. Like Street Fighter the movie, Mortal Kombat the movie wing commander, the movie and Super Mario Brothers the movie!
P.S. Final Fantasy the movie is coming, it's got great voice cast back it up, you can hope in your lifetime there's a good video game movie.
CY, who is not hitting the preview button, so you can nitpick more.
Considering the Sony track records, it will just make a player so samll than make all you cd-r zealots SICK. If you think carrying a cd-r/mp player and a big stack of CD is cool, then you might as well get a Newton instead of a Visor.
Note that I'm not preaching memory stick, but it does has its advantage, size. And Sony can easily make a player as small as my aiwa am/fm receiver, which is about 1 X 3 X 5 cm, and run weeks on a AAA battery.
Do you know the Pokemon is the most successful video game-series, if not the only successful videogame-turn-tv series in US. Please get your facts straight. US consumers are as clusless as Japanese consumers.
Can't talk, got to check out my beanie baby portal update and UPS status of my WNBA barbies doll shipment...
Woohoo! I use black background and white font in my netscaoe 3.04, so whenever there is a suspicious big block in the middle, I just "select all" and the mysterious text appear.
So? Make your own CorelBSD distro, don't touch Linux, if you don't want to violate GPL, "hire" every beta tester and do a real "in house" test. Corel has fewer clue than Sun.
CY
Re:The problem isn't so much the "addiction"...
on
On eBay Addiction
·
· Score: 1
Yeah the comments are pretty sick, I was following the mainstream for the first 10 deals or so, (mostly were start with "two thumbs up..." just because I want to justify the orgiastic praises the buyers/sellers gave me.) Then I realized how stupid it is. It doesn't matter as far as I gave him +1, so now my comments are like this "Once Upon a Time in American, the soundtrack is the best."
See title, it's not feature. I'm so impression by the continuious improvement Rod and co. bring to slashdot. First the interview idea is very innovative --be that an invention of Rod or other sites. And the/. boxes. It's got practically more boxen than netscape boxes (CowboyNeil we love you please please add a darkhorizon/AICN slashbox.) And not to mention the self-moderating system is the best I have ever seen, this thing is going to change the web.
Does it matter? Rob can throw a "feature" sticker on it you can't complain anymore. Don't you know SLASHDOT stand for? "SLASHDOT is not a news site:}... it's a linux bar. The strict rule of real newssites make them duller. I only actually click the news article once for every 5-7 discussions I read, really.
But the webpage only has the official translation, (who needs that, it's on every chinese Cola) it doesn't have the original funny tranlation. I can't pull my hair out and translate this wax tadpole back to cantonese and still sound like Coca-cola. :)
Maybe Biblefish can help me
CY
Anonymous auction never works, that's why you need to build up some credential through ebay. I like the idea of smart card, which should be able to transact small amount of money over the net anonymously. These will encourage illegal selling though, and then FBI start selling "Un-registered Photoshop CD!" to trap you.... But it's a good thing nevertheless, much better than MSN passport. Consider this scenerio: You buy a smart card from the newsstand, gets a unique number on the card, say A13764789756, and then you slice you card in the smartcard reader, tell you computer you wish to send 10 dollars to another smartcard, that has a id C76468976432, varla, the guy gets the money and send you his used "The Net" poster. Note I don't want the smartcard carrys password and personal id, it's purely anonymous with open source smartcard driver. That's good enough. That isn't much advcantage to transfer large amount of money in high speed for Joe Sixpact. You want to kick your tire before making the dicision anyway. CY
Okay I'm chinese, my chinese software can read but not write chinese. And I will try my best to help you guys communicate. I'm not going to post it top level since nobody will scoll down to read it.
:) Eng->chi->Eng :)) But we are currently unable to run the internet development organization. In china is hard to do opensource, but I think the difficulty is not only in us. I think there are 2 point, one is the envirnment, people should accept(my note: or "admit") opensource, respect opensource. two is people should have the enthusiasm and ability to contribute. Right now how many people crazy like us, working opensource as our only job?
I don't seem to find any discussion of GPL license except in the bottom, (most of them are installation related discussion) here is one post by blus in 9/30/99 2.05am entile "I'm very disappinted" (eng translation following)
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translation (paraphasing)
Close the nuclear source process (my note: something like that), it's already GPL violation. Locking the chinese-lize technoligy in "bp linux", you forget a lot of people like mandrake, slackware, turbolinux, openlinux, redhat, debrian...
DOn't even mention that you promised it.. I know promise can't enforced by law. Working opensource in China is pretty hard, but I believe only following the rule of opensource can develop. working a few upgrading rpm that base on the "original release" (my note, I don't know what this refer to) is that hard? People can go see taiwan's CLE project, they are doing pretty complete!
bp is currently the most fit chinese plan (my note: plan or project) I don't want to see the temparary shortsight ruins it!
-------------------------------------
okay, now is the respond. It should be from the writer. "hahalee"
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Take a look at CLE0.9, already a few gig. There are a lot of thing need to be changed in a distribution. Say, Pine's hz translation (my note: something like that, it;s getting technical) Or the kmail's debug, or the system's script, etc. We can't rely on other distribution to maintain the package. Anyway, if you like the Preview way of release(my note: now this can be interpred as "distribution" I know it's critical) You can keep using it.
About opensource, we promise providing source in the offical release. This is merely a stable debug version. The opensource's theory did mention the "flee market development model" (my note: yeah that's as close as I can get
----------------------------------
translation finish.
okay. I do have some opinion. But I think my tranlation is good enough for people to draw their conclusion. Please remember, if they are not responding, the chances are they can't express themslves in eng correctly! (well why don't you speak in chinese?) Anyway, don't jump on them too quick.
Regarding the "commie" comments, heh I just come back from a.s.baseball.yankees, I think I can take those crap. I still have 4 page anthro paper to write! Got to go!
in case I miss something, my real address is name0000@yahoo.com
-Ye Chen
Just for what it's worth, I think you all are talking out of your asses. Here are some facts. 1) /. had the funnest poll 2 polls in a row in the last month.(cereal moscot and "your favorite poll option")
/. one year ago, but that's no comparison to what they spend time and energy to write in the interviews.
2) There weren't much midnight posting then, now Roblimo takes up that job and we finally have something to read at night.
3) Jon Katz is actually getting better.
4) The greatest weblog interactive invension ever, online interview. Go read your Alan Cox and ESR interviews again and think if you have seen something like that. (okay so they actually POST in
5) So you think it's getting boring, then why don't you find another comparative weblog/geek portal/news site? Because you can't. You you you, anyone has suggestion? No? Case close.
CY
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You can hide/show as much privacy with a login name as without one, it's a life style. And there's nothing wrong with score 0. Everybody can read them by default. Set your preference to -1 and stop whining.
This is just like when I play with the earlier version of win95, when you change your font to 36pt or so, and click "OK", you are screwed, because it's impossible to change it back. The newer and bigger "ok" button is out of the screen area, and you can't touch it!
Just wait a moment to think about the surreal situation.
CY
Sorry if this is a double posting, /. has no returned page.
.mov, but what can you play on 8meg memory? Or the max 96 meg of Compact Flash? Before a handhold device can hold 1Gig of data, it's simply stupid to add the video feature on a tiny gadget. And there is only one thing can do it. No portable dvd player doesn't count, because it can't play X-file futurama and rare Humphrey Bogart movies. (of course, I can't afford it.)
:)
The funnest thing is these palm-wandabes can play
And before somebody want to remind me that they can play mp3. These are the answers 1) My Rio cost 50 bucks 2) No PDA has 32meg build-in memory 3) My Rio runs 12 hours on an AA 4) Visor will play mp3, (the add-in doesn't have its own battery source thouh)
Compaq already replace its fansy 12 godzilliom color screen with a black and white, now all it need is a decent OS
(disclaimer, no I don't own any PDA)
CY
The funnest thing is these palm-wandabes can play .mov, but what can you play on 8meg memory? Or the max 96 meg of Compact Flash? Before a handhold device can hold 1Gig of data, it's simply stupid to add the video feature on a tiny gadget. And there is only one thing can do it. No portable dvd player doesn't count, because it can't play X-file futurama and rare Humphrey Bogart movies. (of course, I can't afford it.)
:)
And before somebody want to remind me that they can play mp3. These are the answers 1) My Rio cost 50 bucks 2) No PDA has 32meg build-in memory 3) My Rio runs 12 hours on an AA 4) Visor will play mp3, (the add-in doesn't have its own battery source thouh)
Compaq already replace its fansy 12 godzilliom color screen with a black and white, now all it need is a decent OS
(disclaimer, no I don't own any PDA)
CY
And Sony is big enough to have wall-mark, K-mark WIZ done the upgrade for the Joe Sixpacks, so there really isn't a problem.
CY
Actually, the Hemos story is longer, it probably took him 10 minutes to come up with the witty comment.
Time to hack a perl script that can randomly generate
"boy I thought to_be_replaced1 was silly";
"Mmmm, Slashdot hasn't had a offcal to_be_replaced2 yet "
"back when I was in the army, we have to to_be_replaced_by_roblimo"
:)
CY
CNN slashdotted, msnbc slashdotted (not by /. gang, but can you find a better name) Only foxnews.com is work. CNN cable is talking about moneyline...I can't afford foxnews cable and msnbc channel 43 finally has a "u.s. team going to japan " flash.
Arrrkk! Infomation starvation, if the news server can't feed news in a break out accident, then what good is internet.
cy
Well hate to break the news to you, only people who have a karma rating of 15 can post top level post wink wink.
CY
wrong you are. ebay sells screen estate. A "bold" of the title cost 2 bucks, a "gift icon" cost a couple of bucks, and the "feature" that put you on the top of the search result costs more.
It doesn't use graphical banner doesn't there is no ad.
cy
Why can't Rob keep the current version of Slashdot in CVS so people ca....
/. clone better than slashdot. O I forget you can't code, how to I know that.
Shut TF up and contribute to the Squishdot project. It's OpenSource.
Maybe you can make a
CY
Win95 and netscape: no problem here.
And /. has far and away the highest context:ad bnner ratio. Nobody can criticize slashdot unless he reads article in thread, with every feature, picture, etc. turned on.
cy
Sigh, guess I read too much variety. When I said series, I meant tv series, as in half-hour cartoon/live-action series. The video go movie/tv routine is always bomb horribly. Like Street Fighter the movie, Mortal Kombat the movie wing commander, the movie and Super Mario Brothers the movie!
P.S. Final Fantasy the movie is coming, it's got great voice cast back it up, you can hope in your lifetime there's a good video game movie.
CY, who is not hitting the preview button, so you can nitpick more.
Considering the Sony track records, it will just make a player so samll than make all you cd-r zealots SICK. If you think carrying a cd-r/mp player and a big stack of CD is cool, then you might as well get a Newton instead of a Visor.
.85 X .11 in.), storage: 4m-16m, Speed: 1.5m/s
Memory stick size: 5X2.15X.28 cm (1.97 X
Note that I'm not preaching memory stick, but it does has its advantage, size. And Sony can easily make a player as small as my aiwa am/fm receiver, which is about 1 X 3 X 5 cm, and run weeks on a AAA battery.
CY
Do you know the Pokemon is the most successful video game-series, if not the only successful videogame-turn-tv series in US. Please get your facts straight. US consumers are as clusless as Japanese consumers.
Can't talk, got to check out my beanie baby portal update and UPS status of my WNBA barbies doll shipment...
CY
Woohoo! I use black background and white font in my netscaoe 3.04, so whenever there is a suspicious big block in the middle, I just "select all" and the mysterious text appear.
CY
So? Make your own CorelBSD distro, don't touch Linux, if you don't want to violate GPL, "hire" every beta tester and do a real "in house" test. Corel has fewer clue than Sun.
CY
Yeah the comments are pretty sick, I was following the mainstream for the first 10 deals or so, (mostly were start with "two thumbs up..." just because I want to justify the orgiastic praises the buyers/sellers gave me.) Then I realized how stupid it is. It doesn't matter as far as I gave him +1, so now my comments are like this "Once Upon a Time in American, the soundtrack is the best."
CY
See title, it's not feature. I'm so impression by the continuious improvement Rod and co. bring to slashdot. First the interview idea is very innovative --be that an invention of Rod or other sites. And the /. boxes. It's got practically more boxen than netscape boxes (CowboyNeil we love you please please add a darkhorizon/AICN slashbox.) And not to mention the self-moderating system is the best I have ever seen, this thing is going to change the web.
Way to go, we appricated.
CY
Does it matter? Rob can throw a "feature" sticker on it you can't complain anymore. Don't you know SLASHDOT stand for? "SLASHDOT is not a news site :} ... it's a linux bar. The strict rule of real newssites make them duller. I only actually click the news article once for every 5-7 discussions I read, really.
CY