What's wrong with this being a front page post? He'll reach more people, and thus get more responses, that way.
I don't know if 1.0 is less stable than 1.0PR, but it's definitely not 'stable,' for me, and that's across three machines, one of which is a newly built machine.
And yeah, I've got it set to report crash data back to the developers. Hope that works. Firefox is still leagues better than IE, of course, in both features as well as stability. And speed. And beauty. Oh nevermind, this could get embarassing.
Hey, when the goal is making something easier for lazy people to use, there's NO amount of effort that will be spared in reaching that goal! It's the American way.:) Looks like those UK physicists are learning from the best...
Fortunately, any loss of life will be offset by the good of being able to determine who _really_ got First Post(tm). Ya gotta take the bad with the good.
Noone moves to Seattle for the sunshine. I moved _away_ from sunshine & heat & cold (came here from Kansas City, MO). Not everyone likes the bright light, ya know.:)
It's pretty awesome living by the water, too, especially growing up in landlocked areas.
Seattle person here. Trust me, you've got nothing I want in Boise except lower housing costs. Well, and jobs, apparently. I'd rather live in Boise than in California, though, that's for sure. Poor bastards.
I installed a new machine from scratch the past few days, and that problem doesn't show up. *shrug* I dunno what the deal was, but it's no longer a problem with my new machine at home. Wish that was the case at work.:(
I'd say being concerned about the ramifications on forensic science and juries is about the same as being concerned about how people feel about flying on a plane because of Star Wars.
If anything, more informed people coming out of school, inspired by CSI, is a _good_ thing. The frontiers of science & technology will eventually make those tests quicker and cheaper, especially if more people demand it. That is not a bad thing at all.
A realio-trulio lie detector(tm) would definitely be the largest boon to justice anyone could come up with.
Well, that and a complete overhaul of the U.S. 'justice' system.
Lawyers make the law more clear. Things can be simple or fair but not both.
Lawyers help you navigate complex deals, interract with the diverse laws of states and nations, and can keep your rights from being overrun by the RIAA.
Nicely worded, counselor. That neatly sidesteps the fact that lawyers were the ones who got the laws made so complex that noone but a lawyer can understand it. Convenient. I suppose it all depends on what your definition of 'is' is, or something similar.
Yep, complete uninstall, including finding the leftover directories it says it unstalled (and didn't), and deleting them. Also happens on a machine that never had anything but 1.0 release on it. I'm installing it on a freshly-formatted machine tonight, so I'll check it out again.
I'm using a Celeron @ 466mHz at work on Win XP, and was using a PIII @ 550mHz at home, and the speed disparity is _definitely_ noticable between Moz & FF on both machines. I just tripled my clockspeed (& other things) on the home machine, so I'll find out tonight whether I still need the moox build at home or not.:)
FUD? No, this is simply my experience on 2 different machines.
An Athlon 3000+ is hardly a slow machine. Seriously. My work machine is 466mHz, and my just-retired machine at home was 550.
Using the optimized FF build by moox definitely made FF usable on the work & old home machines, but that wasn't necessary with Mozilla.
And yeah, FF crashes on me much more than Moz does. I don't know what causes it, but keeping the # of open tabs down seems to help; I've not gotten around to figuring out what this magic # of tabs is, or if it's just some weird ad on some site that I only occasionally hit. I need to get the feedback reporting thing going, clearly. Hopefully the devs can figure it out.
The FF on my machine at work was 1.0 release, on a machine that never had older builds installed. The one at home was 1.0 release, on a machine with older builds completely removed. It's pretty consistent.
When it happens, it's not a lock up, it's an actual crash.
It works that way on both my home and work machines, and my work machine never had FF on it until I put the 1.0 release on it. *shrug*
There's also something stupid in how it handles alt text on images relating to some popup something or other that I haven't nailed down exactly, yet. (same problem in Mozilla, btw).
Ten whole tabs, woo. We're not talking the same scale here, guy.:)
And hey, it might not even BE the number of tabs that's causing the crashes I see, but when I have a bunch of tabs open, I can't tell which one it was that caused it to crash.
Oh, and the 'auto reload tabs upon restart after a crash'? Does nothing.:(
Okay, I'll be the one to say it: Firefox has some problems that I'd like to see fixed. I'm using it as my primary browser now, but I'm careful how I use it.
1) Slow compared to Mozilla - requires the use of the moox optimized builds. I just built myself a new(ish) machine last night, though, so the extra CPU speed may make this a moot point for me, but the 550mHz Pentium III I was using was definitely not an optimal platform for Firefox.
2) Buggy when lots of tabs are opened - more so than Mozilla. I'd say it crashes around 2x-3x more often than Mozilla. Being careful about how many tabs are open minimizes this, but still - annoying.
3) HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE problem shared with Mozilla - the UI is not multithreaded! Ugh. Fucking ridiculous design - I'm fairly sure I saw something in some roadmap somewhere long ago that this would be worked on 'after Moz 1.7/ff 1.0,' but I've not kept up on that. By far the worst problem I face every day with both Moz & FF.
Regarding Mozilla - some of FF's features need to be ported over, ESPECIALLY the extension manager! I mainly had the impetus to get Firefox moox going as I had a bad extension install that totally borked my Moz install, and there's no easy way to remove them from Mozilla, despite all the FAQs I found.:(
Bad Idea for both: turning off the ability of javascripts to change the status bar text also turns off link previewing - ridiculous; those should be two entirely separate things.
Other than that, the Moz & FF teams have done remarkable work, and I'm looking forward to new versions, and the very painful death of IE.
Five bucks a year for a browser that is fast, small, secure, has tabbed browsing, awesome bookmark management, integrated kickass email, popup blocking, etcetera endless freakin' etcetera.
Oh yeah, and weird HTML rendering (until very recently) and a funky interface (even now).
I _love_ the new Battlestar Galactica (I hafta download it since it's only playing in the UK thus far), but I wish they'd stuck with some of the made-up words and games. They use minutes, and play poker. But they _do_ use the made-up curse words, which is great. And no daggits (yet)!
Producing hydrogen is only one of the issues, as I've already mentioned.
That means you could only reliably refuel at home.
You still need to find a hydrogen vehicle that has the power & range you'd want (good luck - they don't exist).
And of course, you'd need the money & space (and be able to meet zoning regulations, probably) to have one of those hydrogen generators, not to mention the higher power & water bills you'd be paying to do it in the first place. $4,000 startup cost (on the low end), plus ongoing high power & water bills, plus a mythical practical hydrogen vehicle.
You'd be a _lot_ better off using an existing diesel vehicle, and make or buy biodiesel or a biodiesel/diesel blend. It's available now, and startup & ongoing costs would be _much_ cheaper.
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What's wrong with this being a front page post? He'll reach more people, and thus get more responses, that way.
I don't know if 1.0 is less stable than 1.0PR, but it's definitely not 'stable,' for me, and that's across three machines, one of which is a newly built machine.
And yeah, I've got it set to report crash data back to the developers. Hope that works. Firefox is still leagues better than IE, of course, in both features as well as stability. And speed. And beauty. Oh nevermind, this could get embarassing.
That must've been Lisa Simpson.
Hey, when the goal is making something easier for lazy people to use, there's NO amount of effort that will be spared in reaching that goal! It's the American way. :) Looks like those UK physicists are learning from the best...
Fortunately, any loss of life will be offset by the good of being able to determine who _really_ got First Post(tm). Ya gotta take the bad with the good.
Noone moves to Seattle for the sunshine. I moved _away_ from sunshine & heat & cold (came here from Kansas City, MO). Not everyone likes the bright light, ya know. :)
It's pretty awesome living by the water, too, especially growing up in landlocked areas.
Seattle person here. Trust me, you've got nothing I want in Boise except lower housing costs. Well, and jobs, apparently. I'd rather live in Boise than in California, though, that's for sure. Poor bastards.
But don't move to Boise.
:)
No problem.
I installed a new machine from scratch the past few days, and that problem doesn't show up. *shrug* I dunno what the deal was, but it's no longer a problem with my new machine at home. Wish that was the case at work. :(
I'd say being concerned about the ramifications on forensic science and juries is about the same as being concerned about how people feel about flying on a plane because of Star Wars.
If anything, more informed people coming out of school, inspired by CSI, is a _good_ thing. The frontiers of science & technology will eventually make those tests quicker and cheaper, especially if more people demand it. That is not a bad thing at all.
A realio-trulio lie detector(tm) would definitely be the largest boon to justice anyone could come up with.
Well, that and a complete overhaul of the U.S. 'justice' system.
Lawyers help you navigate complex deals, interract with the diverse laws of states and nations, and can keep your rights from being overrun by the RIAA.
Nicely worded, counselor. That neatly sidesteps the fact that lawyers were the ones who got the laws made so complex that noone but a lawyer can understand it. Convenient. I suppose it all depends on what your definition of 'is' is, or something similar.
Okay, so some kids may be lost, but this is fiber to the home we're talking about here! Some sacrifices must be made.
Besides, it's not like they're taxpayers or anything. Plus, what're they gonna DO, CRY about it? Puh-lease. Stupid cry-babies.
Yeah, it was the *cough* interns *cough* who did it.
Damned kids these days. *cough*
Nah...Nvidia. :)
I think he uses the 6800 UltraUltraUltraUltraUltra. PCIe.
Yep, complete uninstall, including finding the leftover directories it says it unstalled (and didn't), and deleting them. Also happens on a machine that never had anything but 1.0 release on it. I'm installing it on a freshly-formatted machine tonight, so I'll check it out again.
I dunno if it'll do what you want, but try this great extension, http://piro.sakura.ne.jp/
About a zillion features to enhance tab use.
What OS are you using?
:)
I'm using a Celeron @ 466mHz at work on Win XP, and was using a PIII @ 550mHz at home, and the speed disparity is _definitely_ noticable between Moz & FF on both machines. I just tripled my clockspeed (& other things) on the home machine, so I'll find out tonight whether I still need the moox build at home or not.
FUD? No, this is simply my experience on 2 different machines.
An Athlon 3000+ is hardly a slow machine. Seriously. My work machine is 466mHz, and my just-retired machine at home was 550.
Using the optimized FF build by moox definitely made FF usable on the work & old home machines, but that wasn't necessary with Mozilla.
And yeah, FF crashes on me much more than Moz does. I don't know what causes it, but keeping the # of open tabs down seems to help; I've not gotten around to figuring out what this magic # of tabs is, or if it's just some weird ad on some site that I only occasionally hit. I need to get the feedback reporting thing going, clearly. Hopefully the devs can figure it out.
The FF on my machine at work was 1.0 release, on a machine that never had older builds installed. The one at home was 1.0 release, on a machine with older builds completely removed. It's pretty consistent.
When it happens, it's not a lock up, it's an actual crash.
It works that way on both my home and work machines, and my work machine never had FF on it until I put the 1.0 release on it. *shrug*
There's also something stupid in how it handles alt text on images relating to some popup something or other that I haven't nailed down exactly, yet. (same problem in Mozilla, btw).
Ten whole tabs, woo. We're not talking the same scale here, guy. :)
:(
And hey, it might not even BE the number of tabs that's causing the crashes I see, but when I have a bunch of tabs open, I can't tell which one it was that caused it to crash.
Oh, and the 'auto reload tabs upon restart after a crash'? Does nothing.
Okay, I'll be the one to say it: Firefox has some problems that I'd like to see fixed. I'm using it as my primary browser now, but I'm careful how I use it.
:(
1) Slow compared to Mozilla - requires the use of the moox optimized builds. I just built myself a new(ish) machine last night, though, so the extra CPU speed may make this a moot point for me, but the 550mHz Pentium III I was using was definitely not an optimal platform for Firefox.
2) Buggy when lots of tabs are opened - more so than Mozilla. I'd say it crashes around 2x-3x more often than Mozilla. Being careful about how many tabs are open minimizes this, but still - annoying.
3) HORRIBLE, HORRIBLE problem shared with Mozilla - the UI is not multithreaded! Ugh. Fucking ridiculous design - I'm fairly sure I saw something in some roadmap somewhere long ago that this would be worked on 'after Moz 1.7/ff 1.0,' but I've not kept up on that. By far the worst problem I face every day with both Moz & FF.
Regarding Mozilla - some of FF's features need to be ported over, ESPECIALLY the extension manager! I mainly had the impetus to get Firefox moox going as I had a bad extension install that totally borked my Moz install, and there's no easy way to remove them from Mozilla, despite all the FAQs I found.
Bad Idea for both: turning off the ability of javascripts to change the status bar text also turns off link previewing - ridiculous; those should be two entirely separate things.
Other than that, the Moz & FF teams have done remarkable work, and I'm looking forward to new versions, and the very painful death of IE.
Five bucks a year for a browser that is fast, small, secure, has tabbed browsing, awesome bookmark management, integrated kickass email, popup blocking, etcetera endless freakin' etcetera.
Oh yeah, and weird HTML rendering (until very recently) and a funky interface (even now).
Yes, you use the "Sweat Hog Method," and keep the keys up your nose, where they are only reachable via a rubber hose. Very secure.
Really - who's going to want to even _try_ to get those keys? *cringe*
That's not a hydrogen-only vehicle - it's running a combination of hydrogen and diesel at the same time, so my point still stands.
While it's not a hydrogen-only engine, it _is_ quite interesting. Thanks for the link.
"Decaminute"? I think you mean a "centon". :)
I _love_ the new Battlestar Galactica (I hafta download it since it's only playing in the UK thus far), but I wish they'd stuck with some of the made-up words and games. They use minutes, and play poker. But they _do_ use the made-up curse words, which is great. And no daggits (yet)!
Producing hydrogen is only one of the issues, as I've already mentioned.
That means you could only reliably refuel at home.
You still need to find a hydrogen vehicle that has the power & range you'd want (good luck - they don't exist).
And of course, you'd need the money & space (and be able to meet zoning regulations, probably) to have one of those hydrogen generators, not to mention the higher power & water bills you'd be paying to do it in the first place. $4,000 startup cost (on the low end), plus ongoing high power & water bills, plus a mythical practical hydrogen vehicle.
You'd be a _lot_ better off using an existing diesel vehicle, and make or buy biodiesel or a biodiesel/diesel blend. It's available now, and startup & ongoing costs would be _much_ cheaper.