> The last DIMMs I bought--brand new--were so bad Linux wouldn't even boot.
Yeah, that's what happens when you buy cheap-ass RAM. Buy the good stuff (Corsair or Mushkin, if you can afford it), and rest easy.
> And speaking of future, does Athlon64 FX support DDR2?
Nope. The memory controller is now on the die with the CPU, so once AMD decides to go DDR2, they'll have to update the CPUs themselves with a DDR2 controller. Oh goodie.
> When they switch sockets to 939 pin can I still use ECC memory if I want?
Hmm, good question. I'm _guessing_ the answer will be yes, depending on mobo support. But, if you want to use ECC memory, you might as well just stick with an Opteron, and the 940 pin socket.
Personally, I'd rather have a 939-pin Athlon64 FX with dual-channel DDR400 unbuffered Mushkin 2-2-2 memory. The best quality memory you can get, and all the speed you can hope for. Oh yeah.
This is the sad thing about the Mac G5 - the mobo is apparently not designed to make use of higher-quality RAM (ie: lower-latency) than what they ship with. Pfeh. Fools. It's one thing to ship with 'regular' memory, but to hobble the machine so crazy people like me can't upgrade is _really_ irritating. Oh well.
> course, if you've really got money to burn, why not get two 2.0 GHz Opterons?
Or four. Or eight.
Or an 1100-node G5 cluster!:)
I'm still waiting on some Athlon64 vs G5 comparisons. C'mon, benchers, get with it!:)
I just read that the Intel P4EE CPUs are 'accidentally' SMP enabled. Hehe. Whoopsies. Still way overpriced and I don't even wanna think about the cooling requirements, though.:(
Hey, there will always be exceptions to any rule. A Hummer will be the best vehicle for some people, just not for the vast majority of people. I refuse to put such silly-ass disclaimers on all my Slashdot posts, despite the inevitable replies calling for them.
If you've got the money to burn on a system that has already been announced as an 'end of life' platform, by all means, go ahead.
I think that the new Socket 939 format will be available 6 months or so before PCI Express x16 becomes mainstream. I've been reading that the switch to PCI Express won't be happening, for the most part, until the 2nd half of next year, whereas Socket 939 should be at the beginning of 2Q next year. Of course, that assumes that everything happens on schedule, which never happens.:)
It's all a moot point for me - my next computer will be a Mac G5. Because of the coming PCI Express train, I'm not going for the big duallie for now - I'm gonna get the single proc 1.8GHz machine, then upgrade to the then-biggie once they migrate to PCI Express.
The socket format will be changing soon, and once the upcoming changes happen, things will be much better. You'll then be able to use non-ECC memory, and the motherboards will be less expensive.
Until then, yeah, the FX is freaking fast, but waaaaay overpriced, so don't bother.
I think you mean in 'Return of the King'. Two Towers was the previous movie.:)
And that'll _still_ be nothing compared to a pack of IBM lawyers on your ass...I mean, really, the glowing eyes alone, not to mention the fangs dripping with saliva ala 'Alien'...*shudder*
No way - the Segway is _clearly_ a BSD-deserving platform. Especially when the battery... GOES DEAD! "SYSTEM ERROR: BDS/SEGWAY BATTERY IS DYING. ALL USERS LOGOFF NOW!"
shutdown -rn now
Someone should also put a little LCD monitor on it and then port MAME to it.
"The game was a complete flop at the time, players were really unable to cope with the surrealism and "newness" of the graphics."
How bizarre! I loved that game, and the arcade where I played at the time "The Fun Factory", always had a bit of a waiting time for it, it was so popular. I don't recall anyone being unable to cope with anything about the game.
> I seem to remember one about it being impossible to travel faster than 29 MPH. Shit, a lot of animals run faster than that.
See, that's a common mistake. Back in the days when people believed that, animals _didn't_ run faster than that. Everything was slower. Animals, through the process known as "evolution," have gotten faster.
> If there was a question as to whether or not Congress granted the FTC sufficient authority to create such a list, enforcement of it certainly should be suspended until the matter is resolved.
You know, there's something to be said about enforcing the 'letter of the law,' but what this country really lacks is understanding of 'spirit of the law.' In fact, this country's judicial system has about NONE of that, it seems. Judge Moron, err, sorry, West, seems to have an IQ of 0 when it comes to common sense. Oh for judicial review of this guy's rulings...
Yeah, but a Canadian trademark is only worth about 2/3 of an American trademark, right? And since possession is 9/10ths of the law and pi*(r^2), I see your E and raise you mc^2.
> The GRU will visit you shortly...
Is GRU Canadian spelling for Grue? I don't like that sound of that...
Let me guess - you do not LIKE vi eggs and ham, either, right?:)
I sure wish I had a copy of Jesse Jackson reciting Green Eggs & Ham after Dr. Seuss died. That was absolutely perfect.
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> makes no sub-low-end Macs
And that's not necessarily a bad thing, either. There's something to be said for refusing to play the lowest common denominator game. It's a nice option for some people to have, but there's no law that says Apple has to sell into every segment of the market. I'd rather they "concentrate on their core competencies," if you'll forgive me for using that phrase.:)
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Ooh, that _would_ be nice. Same team that reverse engineered the tech to make the New Beetle, ya think?
Hey, wait, wouldn't all that be illegal under the DMCA?!
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> The last DIMMs I bought--brand new--were so bad Linux wouldn't even boot.
Yeah, that's what happens when you buy cheap-ass RAM. Buy the good stuff (Corsair or Mushkin, if you can afford it), and rest easy.
> And speaking of future, does Athlon64 FX support DDR2?
Nope. The memory controller is now on the die with the CPU, so once AMD decides to go DDR2, they'll have to update the CPUs themselves with a DDR2 controller. Oh goodie.
Polacks...Vulcans...same thing. :)
> When they switch sockets to 939 pin can I still use ECC memory if I want?
Hmm, good question. I'm _guessing_ the answer will be yes, depending on mobo support. But, if you want to use ECC memory, you might as well just stick with an Opteron, and the 940 pin socket.
Personally, I'd rather have a 939-pin Athlon64 FX with dual-channel DDR400 unbuffered Mushkin 2-2-2 memory. The best quality memory you can get, and all the speed you can hope for. Oh yeah.
This is the sad thing about the Mac G5 - the mobo is apparently not designed to make use of higher-quality RAM (ie: lower-latency) than what they ship with. Pfeh. Fools. It's one thing to ship with 'regular' memory, but to hobble the machine so crazy people like me can't upgrade is _really_ irritating. Oh well.
You shall not live long, nor prosper, for that joke.
Wow, the "double-wide" mobo concept. That's...unique.
It doesn't really bother me, as I'm jumping ship to Apple when I can afford it. *shrug*
Sounds Vulcan.
> course, if you've really got money to burn, why not get two 2.0 GHz Opterons?
:)
:)
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Or four. Or eight.
Or an 1100-node G5 cluster!
I'm still waiting on some Athlon64 vs G5 comparisons. C'mon, benchers, get with it!
I just read that the Intel P4EE CPUs are 'accidentally' SMP enabled. Hehe. Whoopsies. Still way overpriced and I don't even wanna think about the cooling requirements, though.
The FX is a crippled Opteron - it has fewer HT links. If you want an Opteron, get an Opteron.
Hey, there will always be exceptions to any rule. A Hummer will be the best vehicle for some people, just not for the vast majority of people. I refuse to put such silly-ass disclaimers on all my Slashdot posts, despite the inevitable replies calling for them.
:)
If you've got the money to burn on a system that has already been announced as an 'end of life' platform, by all means, go ahead.
A good alternative - send the money to me.
I think that the new Socket 939 format will be available 6 months or so before PCI Express x16 becomes mainstream. I've been reading that the switch to PCI Express won't be happening, for the most part, until the 2nd half of next year, whereas Socket 939 should be at the beginning of 2Q next year. Of course, that assumes that everything happens on schedule, which never happens. :)
It's all a moot point for me - my next computer will be a Mac G5. Because of the coming PCI Express train, I'm not going for the big duallie for now - I'm gonna get the single proc 1.8GHz machine, then upgrade to the then-biggie once they migrate to PCI Express.
The socket format will be changing soon, and once the upcoming changes happen, things will be much better. You'll then be able to use non-ECC memory, and the motherboards will be less expensive.
Until then, yeah, the FX is freaking fast, but waaaaay overpriced, so don't bother.
Unless someone gets tossed down a ravine by answering incorrectly, it's just not interesting.
"Blue...no, green! AHHHHHHHH!"
I think you mean in 'Return of the King'. Two Towers was the previous movie. :)
And that'll _still_ be nothing compared to a pack of IBM lawyers on your ass...I mean, really, the glowing eyes alone, not to mention the fangs dripping with saliva ala 'Alien'...*shudder*
And you thought the Battle of Helm's Deep was massive. I'd rather have a bunch of Uruk-Hai after me than IBM lawyers. *shudder*
No way - the Segway is _clearly_ a BSD-deserving platform. Especially when the battery ... GOES DEAD! "SYSTEM ERROR: BDS/SEGWAY BATTERY IS DYING. ALL USERS LOGOFF NOW!"
shutdown -rn now
Someone should also put a little LCD monitor on it and then port MAME to it.
Okay, so hopefully the next generation of Segways will have a little USB port so you can do your own firmware updating.
That link mentions:
"The game was a complete flop at the time, players were really unable to cope with the surrealism and "newness" of the graphics."
How bizarre! I loved that game, and the arcade where I played at the time "The Fun Factory", always had a bit of a waiting time for it, it was so popular. I don't recall anyone being unable to cope with anything about the game.
By the way, I can kick your ass at Karate Champ.
Yes, I mean YOU.
> I seem to remember one about it being impossible to travel faster than 29 MPH. Shit, a lot of animals run faster than that.
:)
See, that's a common mistake. Back in the days when people believed that, animals _didn't_ run faster than that. Everything was slower. Animals, through the process known as "evolution," have gotten faster.
Also, the world was in black & white.
> If there was a question as to whether or not Congress granted the FTC sufficient authority to create such a list, enforcement of it certainly should be suspended until the matter is resolved.
You know, there's something to be said about enforcing the 'letter of the law,' but what this country really lacks is understanding of 'spirit of the law.' In fact, this country's judicial system has about NONE of that, it seems. Judge Moron, err, sorry, West, seems to have an IQ of 0 when it comes to common sense.
Oh for judicial review of this guy's rulings...
> You're in violation of our Trademark!
Yeah, but a Canadian trademark is only worth about 2/3 of an American trademark, right? And since possession is 9/10ths of the law and pi*(r^2), I see your E and raise you mc^2.
> The GRU will visit you shortly...
Is GRU Canadian spelling for Grue? I don't like that sound of that...
But...Canada is at the heart of a vast, world-wide conspiracy! Canada ... the root of all evil (tm). :)
One can never get tird of blaming Canada.
:)
And that phrase, 'Canuck Overlords' - that cracks me up!
Let me guess - you do not LIKE vi eggs and ham, either, right? :)
I sure wish I had a copy of Jesse Jackson reciting Green Eggs & Ham after Dr. Seuss died. That was absolutely perfect.
> makes no sub-low-end Macs
:)
And that's not necessarily a bad thing, either. There's something to be said for refusing to play the lowest common denominator game. It's a nice option for some people to have, but there's no law that says Apple has to sell into every segment of the market. I'd rather they "concentrate on their core competencies," if you'll forgive me for using that phrase.
Ooh, that _would_ be nice. Same team that reverse engineered the tech to make the New Beetle, ya think?
Hey, wait, wouldn't all that be illegal under the DMCA?!