See, but this is patently goofball. If all people
who call themselves mail admins were to take minimal
precautions (no open relays, require some form of authentication [pop before smtp, etc.] before allowing an SMTP connection, subscribing to one of the several extant mail-abuse blackhole lists, etc. (you know, the common sense stuff), then ISPs wouldn't have to block _any_ outgoing ports.
There's just some element of power and control, that I don't think is in Apple's business plan, that I love about Linux. It kicks me in the ass sometimes (PPP, for instance), but it's completely a tinkering and learning experience, which is really what got me into it in the first place.
The power, control, and tinkering might not be in Apple's business plan, but they're certainly in the OS. I've been using the Pubilc Beta since early October, and you really can get as deeply geeky on it as you want. Want to replace the supplied sendmail with postfix or qmail? Go for it. Want to build and install kernel extensions? If your king fu's strong enough, have at it. Want to take Joe Blow's Java-based editor or Gnutella client and build a double-clickable newbie-friendly Mac-looking application out of it? Download the dev tools and go nuts.
I do this stuff at home on my MacOSX box, then go to work and do similar things under x86 Linux. I feel like an even more fulfilled geek because I'm learning this stuff on systems with very different ancestries.
Yeah, it's kinda odd that Kahney seems to have missed the fact that being able to make such changes is a good thing. (To whatever extent OS X / Aqua makes this easier, about which I'm not really sure.)
A lot of the more popular interface hacks are simply people turning on functionality that's built into the OS but which they haven't written an interface for yet by default. For example, you turn on mounting disks directly on the desktop just by flipping a bit in a property list. Likewise, the terminal app has built in support for translucency that you can turn on just by adding a property to your prefs file. People are discovering more of these goodies every day.
Contrary to all the people wailing about how lost they feel, I'm excited to be spelunking in new territory, finding and being turned on to new details and fun shit every day. There's a lively network of young sites (macosx.com, osxtalk.com, macosxhints.com, etc) where people can swap bits of new knowledge. This is the fun part of an OS's evolution, before people's ingrained habits and the backwards compatabilty albatross start to become a drag. I know I'm not missing the fricking Apple menu.
especially not given the system requirements OSX needs (what was it, 128MB RAM, 1.5GB disk?)
Those hardware requirements are largely dictated by the Classic (compatibility) mode. If you're running Mac OS 9 applications, OSX loads it's own virtual old-school Mac to run them on. To get acceptible performance on these old apps requires setting aside a lot of RAM and swap. If, on the other hand, you're only running Carbon, Cocoa, and Darwin (terminal) apps, you can get away with less RAM. As you would expect with any *nix, the more RAM and swap the better. But really, if you're not going to run old Mac apps, you can get away with 64 or 96.
I haven't been able to find a complete distribution for the PC based on the Darwin kernel. Such a distribution would require the kernel, the command line utilities, development tools, X11, and at least one desktop (Gnome, KDE, GNUStep,...). Such a distribution would be useful even if the set of available drivers is pretty limited (IDE, maybe a SCSI card, a couple of common Ethernet cards).
Here's the text of the Darwin 1.2 announcement Apple sent out (empahasis added):
This release includes support for new Mac hardware, including SMP machines. It has also been compiled fat for use with Intel machines, but currently there is no Intel installer.
Looks to me like they've carried the ball 90 yards and are just looking for the developer community to help them carry it into the end zone.
the main thing they need to do is port it to Intel machines and the like
Not that it necessarily means anything, but line 19 of /System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Res ources/English.lproj/loginwindow.strings&l t;/ a> is
very interesting...
Mac OS X beta is a *joke* if you try to load it. The nice window shadows eat all your CPU, and more than a few dozen of windows is not realistic on a 384Mb machine.
Huh? I have it running on a 192Mb machine, and the only time it ever gets sluggish is
when it's loading the "Classic" environment (which I'd expect.) Seriously, I've got Internet Explorer, Omniweb, Macster, AppleMail (the spiritual heir of NeXTMail, natch) all running, and the box isn't even breathing hard.
I hope the Mac OS port is Carbonized, at least. So, the way I see it, if mp3 decoding takes up minimal cpu time these days, then Sonique takes up the slack with its crazy skins and visual plugins.
If you're using MacOS or MacOSX, there's already a great player with faces (skins) every bit as good as Sonique (if not better): Audion. Its faces can be any size or shape, plus they support alpha-channel transparencies. It doesn't do visualizations, though.
So.. what's the easiest way to get bash installed and running? Since there aren't any dev tools available, does someone already have a compiled bash for MacOS X?
You can get dev tools by following the instructions here.
I was a big fan of Quickdraw GX, and was sad to see it die. When I started to read up on Quartz and the Mac OS X typography services, I was happy to see how much of the cool GX stuff actually still survives.
Darwin (The BSD-ish layer of OSX) is open, and supposedly compiling on x86.
Apple just updated the Darwin FAQ a couple of days ago. It goes into more detail than you might expect about how they're keeping the userland in sync with the other BSDs, and what their future plans (distribution-wise) are.
ah but the collector value. I'm looking for a first generation Mac - the kind with the tiny 9 inch greyscale monitor built right into the case.
I picked up one for $15 at a computer show (Mac SE). They usually go for a little more, but if you want one they're pretty plentiful on the garage sale / computer show circuit. Don't forget, Apple sold millions of them.
What about the example of Kingsley and Martin Amis? I'm pretty sure that Martin probably got his first novel published because of who his dad was, but (surprise surprise) he turned out to be a really great writer on his own merits.
The current nightlies are _way_ faster than NS6 PR1, which was a fork off of, I believe M14 level code. By comparison, Mozilla is on the brink of releasing milestone 17.
What really ticks me off is that Mozilla is still not much better. Point a browser at this test to see, or try using the HTML 4 standard quoting entities, and watch M!6 go for a loop.
Using Mozilla nightly build (7-21, 13, MacOS), looks fine.
The nightlies are really fun to play with, even if you're not a coder -- it's like watching a good friend's kid grow up, growing more confident and surefooted as time goes on. I highly recommend trying them once a week or so (or more if you're adventurous) to see how far the Mozilla project has come since the premature (IMO) release of Netscape 6 PR1.
Anyone know when Adobe software (Photoshop/Illustrator) will be made available for the new platform?
Adobe's president appeared during the keynote. He mentioned that Adobe has hundreds of engineers working directly with Apple to bring Adobe's products to OS X. The implication was that Adobe would be bringing their corfe product lines to X as quickly as they possibly could.
Square and Sony Pictures are going to do quite well with Final Fantasy. The animation is top-notch. Much better than what I saw in A Bug's Life. I'd say Pixar will get a big run for their money once Final Fantasy is released.
I'm a fan of Square myself, but keep in mind that Japanese financial analysts, as recently as last week, were openly questioning Square's investment in the Final Fantasy movie (they are rumored to have spent nearly 10 billion yen on it already)
Pixar, on the other hand, is often cited because their films have been so (relatively) inexpensive to make, compared to the amount they've grossed. (eg: Toy Story cost $30 million to make, and grossed over $350 million world wide, not counting video revenues)
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If scalability is an issue, I think Quicktime holds up very well in that regard too.
See, but this is patently goofball. If all people
who call themselves mail admins were to take minimal
precautions (no open relays, require some form of authentication [pop before smtp, etc.] before allowing an SMTP connection, subscribing to one of the several extant mail-abuse blackhole lists, etc. (you know, the common sense stuff), then ISPs wouldn't have to block _any_ outgoing ports.
The power, control, and tinkering might not be in Apple's business plan, but they're certainly in the OS. I've been using the Pubilc Beta since early October, and you really can get as deeply geeky on it as you want. Want to replace the supplied sendmail with postfix or qmail? Go for it. Want to build and install kernel extensions? If your king fu's strong enough, have at it. Want to take Joe Blow's Java-based editor or Gnutella client and build a double-clickable newbie-friendly Mac-looking application out of it? Download the dev tools and go nuts.
I do this stuff at home on my MacOSX box, then go to work and do similar things under x86 Linux. I feel like an even more fulfilled geek because I'm learning this stuff on systems with very different ancestries.
iCab is small, fast. and standards compliant.
At least we're bright enough to understand the concept of more than one mouse button.
followed by:
I hate OS zealots; Linux, BSD, or Macintosh
Internal consistency error detected... post halted!
A lot of the more popular interface hacks are simply people turning on functionality that's built into the OS but which they haven't written an interface for yet by default. For example, you turn on mounting disks directly on the desktop just by flipping a bit in a property list. Likewise, the terminal app has built in support for translucency that you can turn on just by adding a property to your prefs file. People are discovering more of these goodies every day.
Contrary to all the people wailing about how lost they feel, I'm excited to be spelunking in new territory, finding and being turned on to new details and fun shit every day. There's a lively network of young sites (macosx.com, osxtalk.com, macosxhints.com, etc) where people can swap bits of new knowledge. This is the fun part of an OS's evolution, before people's ingrained habits and the backwards compatabilty albatross start to become a drag. I know I'm not missing the fricking Apple menu.
-d.w.
That one's easy. Use a different OS family. Me, I prefer infinite height menus.
-d.w.
Those hardware requirements are largely dictated by the Classic (compatibility) mode. If you're running Mac OS 9 applications, OSX loads it's own virtual old-school Mac to run them on. To get acceptible performance on these old apps requires setting aside a lot of RAM and swap. If, on the other hand, you're only running Carbon, Cocoa, and Darwin (terminal) apps, you can get away with less RAM. As you would expect with any *nix, the more RAM and swap the better. But really, if you're not going to run old Mac apps, you can get away with 64 or 96.
Of course, things sing w/ 256...
Oh yeah, check out today's Stupid OS X trick. Details at MacOS X Hints.
Not that it necessarily means anything, but line 19 of
/System/Library/CoreServices/loginwindow.app/Re
very interesting...
Mac OS X beta is a *joke* if you try to load it. The nice window shadows eat all your CPU, and more than a few dozen of windows is not realistic on a 384Mb machine.
Huh? I have it running on a 192Mb machine, and the only time it ever gets sluggish is
when it's loading the "Classic" environment (which I'd expect.) Seriously, I've got Internet Explorer, Omniweb, Macster, AppleMail (the spiritual heir of NeXTMail, natch) all running, and the box isn't even breathing hard.
If you're using MacOS or MacOSX, there's already a great player with faces (skins) every bit as good as Sonique (if not better): Audion. Its faces can be any size or shape, plus they support alpha-channel transparencies. It doesn't do visualizations, though.
So.. what's the easiest way to get bash installed and running? Since there aren't any dev tools available, does someone already have a compiled bash for MacOS X?
You can get dev tools by following the instructions here.
You can grab bash here .
I was a big fan of Quickdraw GX, and was sad to see it die. When I started to read up on Quartz and the Mac OS X typography services, I was happy to see how much of the cool GX stuff actually still survives.
Which platform, Linux?
.mozilla directory in your home directory?
You do clear out your old binary before unrolling the tarball, right?
Have you tried trashing the contents of the
I download the nightlies just about every weekday, and in the last three weeks I've only gotten 2
that were unusably broken.
(posted w/ Sep 20th Linux nightly build)
Apple just updated the Darwin FAQ a couple of days ago. It goes into more detail than you might expect about how they're keeping the userland in sync with the other BSDs, and what their future plans (distribution-wise) are.
I picked up one for $15 at a computer show (Mac SE). They usually go for a little more, but if you want one they're pretty plentiful on the garage sale / computer show circuit. Don't forget, Apple sold millions of them.
It should -- one of the ways Apple has cut costs is by using identical components (e.g. slot load DVD drives) across as many machines as possible.
The link referenced above. (view the source)
What about the example of Kingsley and Martin Amis? I'm pretty sure that Martin probably got his first novel published because of who his dad was, but (surprise surprise) he turned out to be a really great writer on his own merits.
"Darts, Keith."
The current nightlies are _way_ faster than NS6 PR1, which was a fork off of, I believe M14 level code. By comparison, Mozilla is on the brink of releasing milestone 17.
What really ticks me off is that Mozilla is still not much better. Point a browser at this test to see, or try using the HTML 4 standard quoting entities, and watch M!6 go for a loop.
Using Mozilla nightly build (7-21, 13, MacOS), looks fine.
The nightlies are really fun to play with, even if you're not a coder -- it's like watching a good friend's kid grow up, growing more confident and surefooted as time goes on. I highly recommend trying them once a week or so (or more if you're adventurous) to see how far the Mozilla project has come since the premature (IMO) release of Netscape 6 PR1.
Anyone know when Adobe software (Photoshop/Illustrator) will be made available for the new platform?
Adobe's president appeared during the keynote. He mentioned that Adobe has hundreds of engineers working directly with Apple to bring Adobe's products to OS X. The implication was that Adobe would be bringing their corfe product lines to X as quickly as they possibly could.
How much is 10 billion yen?
About $100 Million US.
Square and Sony Pictures are going to do quite well with Final Fantasy. The animation is top-notch. Much better than what I saw in A Bug's Life. I'd say Pixar will get a big run for their money once Final Fantasy is released.
I'm a fan of Square myself, but keep in mind that Japanese financial analysts, as recently as last week, were openly questioning Square's investment in the Final Fantasy movie (they are rumored to have spent nearly 10 billion yen on it already)
Pixar, on the other hand, is often cited because their films have been so (relatively) inexpensive to make, compared to the amount they've grossed. (eg: Toy Story cost $30 million to make, and grossed over $350 million world wide, not counting video revenues)
Out of the whole server market, all the BSD fragments combined add up to less than two per cent, and falling.
Keep in mind that the world's second largest volume computing platform will be transitioning to a BSD-ish OS foundation over the next 24 months...
How many iMacs's, IBooks, Powerbooks, and G4's get sold per year? Every new one sold will be running BSD by mid 2001.
...check out the page title at AppleInsider today.