I've been tracking a few of these bugs via http://bugzilla.mozilla.org...
1.) it uses nearly 80% of the CPU with one window (or even 0 windows open)
I don't know for sure that they've completely fixed this, but at least one of the major underlying bugs that was causing it was fixed this past week.
7.) no java or plug-ins (java is an apple issue)
The plug-in bug has been resolved -- they should work in the next Fizzilla build.
I can't wait for nightly builds for Fizilla
According to a few Mozilla.org folks in the newsgroups, nightlies will arrive as soon as more RAM gets added to the build machines (they estimated sometime next week.)
According to the latest development roadmaps I've seen, Netscape will continue to hammer on the 0.9.2 branch, and the result will become Netscape 6.1 final. Mozilla will do an 0.9.2.1 release from this branch when Netscape 6.1 is released.
If you install the developer tools with OS X
(and really, every self-respecting geek should)
you'll get a Carbon build of SimpleText as a
sample app. Not that you'll actually use
it for anything, but it's great to double-click
an old Simpletext readme or something and not have Classic lumber into consciousness.:)
Wizardry...Dark Castle...hint hint, this was about 88-89. Such menu entries did not exist.
System 2.0 / Finder 4.1 (April 1985)
was the version that added the "Put Away" option
to the Finder for unmounting disks,
and the option to drag floppies to the trash to unmount.
Ask a Mac enthusiast one question, he answers a different one than the one you asked...
Yeah, but at least we know how to use a
search engine to fact-check.;)
In my experience, @Home doesn't seem to miss a lot
of posts, but its retention is lousy.
My solution? I run leafnode (a truly kickass piece of software, btw) and decide my own retention times, per group.
I could be mistaken, but I swear there was an episode in the last three seasons or so where somebody actually starts writing out the "Annoyed Grunt," and the spelling is definitely "D'oh." I'm not having any luck finding a reference for it, though.
I wish I had a more concrete reference for
you, but there was a "Life In Hell" strip
in which a character exclaims "D'oh!", and
an asterisk following it explains that
it is to be pronounced "in the manner
of Homer Simpson." That was enough for
me.
Apple did this to "protect" the end user. Very odd if you ask me.
Makes perfect sense to me. If you happen to know
WTF you're doing it takes all of a second and
a half to enable the root account. If you
don't know the difference between sudo
and Jermaine & Tito then you probably
don't have any business stumbling around at
a shell prompt as root anyway.
Disclaimer: I run Mandrake at work
(it's an x86 shop.) I run
OS X at home.
I have far more usable/useful
software for the OS X box. Besides
a growing mountain of OSX native
software (http://www.versiontracker.com/vt_mac_osx.shtml)
I also have access to just about any useful
CLI-based POSIX software and a million
years worth of classic Mac software.
You can install instances of Mozilla that are independent of each other. I keep a directory called "nightly" in my home directory (in
Mandrake 8.0) and download binary tarballs a few
times a week from the/pub/mozilla/nightly/latest
directory. Just untar them into individual directories and you can keep several builds around
at a time. The only issue is that occassionally
some change will invalidate your profile so that
you have to recreate it. Profiles are stored
under ~/.mozilla, so you can back those up too
if you like.
Re:It is a waste of developer time
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Mozilla skins are not "worthless eye candy" -- using XUL you can implement not only different browser looks but different behaviors and functionality. That's what enables developers to create entirely new classes of applications without touching the underlying browser code.
Coincidentally, at last week's Detroit Electronic Music Festival, there were two girls walking around in dresses made entirely of duct tape. They were kind enough to pose for a picture.
my dreamcast can already do this, using broadband too.
Mine can't. See, Sega released their broadband adapter and then released a whopping 3 pieces of software that work with it: Quake III, Unreal Tournament, and the execrable Pod Speedzone. Without going through all sorts of nonsense (involving pirate Japanese web browsers and other such silliness) THAT IS IT.
Why this sad state of affairs? Because the "online" games (and browsers) Sega released before only work with the stupid freaking dialup 56K modem. Why? Because Sega never wrote/licensed a general purpose TCP/IP stack, so all the other software is FREAKIN' HARDCODED to a STUPIDUSELESS analog modem.
I'd like to have a "never launch classic" checkbox, so this doesn't happen. I was thinking the exact same thing earlier. I'd call this an "excellent shareware opportunity."
Userfriendlyness has nothing to do with the kernel, its the distro that matters, apple could have just used a monolithic bsd or linux kernel.
I'm not so sure. It's pretty darned clear that for (at least short term) success Apple needs to be able to eventually convince three important constituencies to move to OSX: their current userbase (who need Classic to run their dusty-deck apps), their current developer base (who need something like Carbon to preserve at least part of their existing codebase), and new developers (who get all hot and bothered over a neat API like Cocoa.) The flexibility of Mach is what allows them to provide all those personalities in a workable fashion.
Re:Didn't Steve Jobs Speak at MacWorld about....
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Really. I run Mozilla nightlies & milestones on Mandrake (Linux), Solaris 7 (Sparc), Mac OS 9, Mac OS X PB, and NT4, and I've never had it take out anything but itself (and those instances have been pretty rare, only when I get a particularly bad nightly build.)
I have to deal with a ton of platforms on a regular basis, and the fact that Mozilla runs more-or-less the same on all of them is a real cool thing. It's been my primary browser on just about every platform for the last 3 months or so.
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1.) it uses nearly 80% of the CPU with one window (or even 0 windows open)
I don't know for sure that they've completely fixed this, but at least one of the major underlying bugs that was causing it was fixed this past week.
7.) no java or plug-ins (java is an apple issue)
The plug-in bug has been resolved -- they should work in the next Fizzilla build.
I can't wait for nightly builds for Fizilla
According to a few Mozilla.org folks in the newsgroups, nightlies will arrive as soon as more RAM gets added to the build machines (they estimated sometime next week.)
According to the latest development roadmaps I've seen, Netscape will continue to hammer on the 0.9.2 branch, and the result will become Netscape 6.1 final. Mozilla will do an 0.9.2.1 release from this branch when Netscape 6.1 is released.
If you install the developer tools with OS X :)
(and really, every self-respecting geek should)
you'll get a Carbon build of SimpleText as a
sample app. Not that you'll actually use
it for anything, but it's great to double-click
an old Simpletext readme or something and not
have Classic lumber into consciousness.
Yep, I'll bet there's a pinhole eject
in every mmacine Apple's shipped with
a floppy drive this year. Uh-huh. Yep.
System 2.0 / Finder 4.1 (April 1985)
was the version that added the "Put Away" option
to the Finder for unmounting disks,
and the option to drag floppies to the trash to unmount.
Ask a Mac enthusiast one question, he answers a different one than the one you asked...
Yeah, but at least we know how to use a
search engine to fact-check.
In my experience, @Home doesn't seem to miss a lot
of posts, but its retention is lousy.
My solution? I run leafnode (a truly kickass piece of software, btw) and decide my own retention times, per group.
Tschuh! Way to start an inverse "Grapes of Wrath", bud.
I wish I had a more concrete reference for
you, but there was a "Life In Hell" strip
in which a character exclaims "D'oh!", and
an asterisk following it explains that
it is to be pronounced "in the manner
of Homer Simpson." That was enough for
me.
Well lets see a picture of your mug, Mr. Russell
Crowe. Yeah, that's right, I thought so.
Apple did this to "protect" the end user. Very odd if you ask me.
Makes perfect sense to me. If you happen to know
WTF you're doing it takes all of a second and
a half to enable the root account. If you
don't know the difference between sudo
and Jermaine & Tito then you probably
don't have any business stumbling around at
a shell prompt as root anyway.
Disclaimer: I run Mandrake at work
(it's an x86 shop.) I run
OS X at home.
I have far more usable/useful
software for the OS X box. Besides
a growing mountain of OSX native
software (http://www.versiontracker.com/vt_mac_osx.shtml)
I also have access to just about any useful
CLI-based POSIX software and a million
years worth of classic Mac software.
And that's just the cheap/free stuff.
Yes.
You can install instances of Mozilla that are independent of each other. I keep a directory called "nightly" in my home directory (in /pub/mozilla/nightly/latest
Mandrake 8.0) and download binary tarballs a few
times a week from the
directory. Just untar them into individual directories and you can keep several builds around
at a time. The only issue is that occassionally
some change will invalidate your profile so that
you have to recreate it. Profiles are stored
under ~/.mozilla, so you can back those up too
if you like.
Mozilla skins are not "worthless eye candy" -- using XUL you can implement not only different browser looks but different behaviors and functionality. That's what enables developers to create entirely new classes of applications without touching the underlying browser code.
Coincidentally, at last week's Detroit Electronic Music Festival, there were two girls walking around in dresses made entirely of duct tape. They were kind enough to pose for a picture.
Mine can't. See, Sega released their broadband adapter and then released a whopping 3 pieces of software that work with it: Quake III, Unreal Tournament, and the execrable Pod Speedzone. Without going through all sorts of nonsense (involving pirate Japanese web browsers and other such silliness) THAT IS IT.
Why this sad state of affairs? Because the "online" games (and browsers) Sega released before only work with the stupid freaking dialup 56K modem. Why? Because Sega never wrote/licensed a general purpose TCP/IP stack, so all the other software is FREAKIN' HARDCODED to a STUPIDUSELESS analog modem.
Sony was at least smart enough to license a modern IPV4/IPV6 stack from a company that maybe knows a little about TCP/IP.
Display Postscript is proprietary technology owned by Adobe. Apple cannot legally give this code away.
What is the "suck" that Apple owns? What does it do? It sounds interesting.
Try here.
It doesn't include a GUI. However,you can install XFree86 4.02. More info is available at Darwinfo.
D'oh! Try backing up to http://www.opensource.apple.com/projects/darwin/.
I'd like to have a "never launch classic" checkbox, so this doesn't happen.
I was thinking the exact same thing earlier. I'd call this an "excellent shareware opportunity."
I'm not so sure. It's pretty darned clear that for (at least short term) success Apple needs to be able to eventually convince three important constituencies to move to OSX: their current userbase (who need Classic to run their dusty-deck apps), their current developer base (who need something like Carbon to preserve at least part of their existing codebase), and new developers (who get all hot and bothered over a neat API like Cocoa.) The flexibility of Mach is what allows them to provide all those personalities in a workable fashion.
The horse's mouth explanation, which seems credible enough to me.
The lack of CDR/DVD features in 1.0 is hardly a showstopper for the "early adopter" types (i.e. us) who are going to be installing this weekend.
Really. I run Mozilla nightlies & milestones on Mandrake (Linux), Solaris 7 (Sparc), Mac OS 9, Mac OS X PB, and NT4, and I've never had it take out anything but itself (and those instances have been pretty rare, only when I get a particularly bad nightly build.)
I have to deal with a ton of platforms on a regular basis, and the fact that Mozilla runs more-or-less the same on all of them is a real cool thing. It's been my primary browser on just about every platform for the last 3 months or so.