My year old celeron does it in ~3 minutes, give or take. I still remember when I got my pentium 100, and took my compiles down from ~1h15m(486/66) to ~12m. *That* was bliss.
>I'd guess quite a lot of/. posters aren't kernel developers either;)
Gee, I hope not 8^) My best effort was fixing a network driver... non-Becker, of course;-) Never got it quite stable enough to merge in, but it worked for me... as long as you waited a little bit between a network stop and start... the restart would trigger some nasty interrupts, and spew madness to the screen for a while... not anything I would feel comfortable submitting. Then I sold the card to a windows user friend. Works great 8^)
Well... some of the VPN stuff was updated in.13 and.14, so even patches to earlier versions get a little bit hairy. I think I went from.12 to.14 - I picked up the new version when I moved. System was up before that, and when I moved, I needed the new VPN functions, so I grabbed and recompiled. Only been down once since then (CPU upgrade). If there's nothing that really grabs you (aside from DDoS fixes - which you can patch and redo on the fly with modules), you generally don't need to upgrade every version... though back in college I was a little more obsessive - had to have the newest dev kernel on my backup box within a couple hours of release, or I felt behind... a little sick, but fun. Now I just want it to behave, and I keep my eyes open for whichever releases have the stuff I want...
found spewing forth from a formation know as 'Jon Katz'. Scientists were amazed at the quantity of 'fully ionized hydrogen' (known to the common man as 'hot' air) that spews from Mr. Katz on a faily regular basis. "We were astounded," said Prof. Frink, "that this one trash columnist could produce more hydrogen than all of the supermarket tabloids and Mindcraft put together. Und hey!"
Other preliminary research also indicates that the 'I Love You' worm mail was perpetrated solely to prevent the further distribuion of this 'Katz Gas', as it is known. One high level source, who wishes to remain anonymous claims, "It's only a theory right now, but it stands to reason that by bogging down the internet with more e-mails, and having the larger part of the 'Slashdot community' busy handling problems and bashing Microsoft, the spread of 'Katz Gas' could be minimized."
We'll continue monitoring this phemonenon, as it is noted that other 'Katz Gas' leaks will happen on a regular basis, often choking people with lack of wit and reason. Several/. 'trolls' we quoted as saying "j0n k47z 5Ux0r5!!!" and "Hot grits down my pants", though these may be independant of the Katz Gas discovery. From somewhere in Minnesota, this is Tower, wishing you a gas-free day.
Situation: I was in college. I had a 21" monitor. DVD drive. No TV. Didn't have room for it, or any need for it. Poor reception, and the lounge had a TV. Why should I be forced to buy a multi-hundred dollar player and a multi-hundred dollar screen when I already have quality equipment for it? Or pay another $100+ dollars for Windows, just so I can waste drive space to watch DVDs?
A lot of college students spent decent money on their computers, and don't necessarily have a lot left over (or space left over) for a TV/DVDp.
Besides, I tend to be fairly demanding of my video/audio equipment - I can't stand watching an inferior player throw crap to an inferior screen with one speaker out the side... especially when I already have a flat computer tube with digital audio out to a real decoder.
Should Jon Katz be Fired? [] Yes [] Absoloutely [] Jon Katz sucks
Really, who keeps paying him, and why? Must be for ad traffic (I use a blocker, so it doesn't matter)... I can't think of any other reason.
He probably creates more useless packets than Melissa or I Love You - at least I Love You has a positive message to it, rather than 'The Sanctity of Our World is Crumbling Around Us!!!!!!!', which seems to be the theme of every post Jon Katz has ever made.
aside from nearly a nearly word-for-word copy of the c|net article (bad enough), he makes some really outrageous statements, none of which have any relevance to the industry or law...
I won't ever buy 90% of the music that I've heard on mp3, and the other 10% is my own stuff anyway. If I can get one Metallica song for free, what the hell. Saves me a whole lot of money. It's really not encouraging me to buy the CD. Granted, it *did* encourage me to purchase Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, but it also stopped me from purchasing the Episode 1 soundtrack (all DVD concerns aside).
The point is, Jon saying that this band should be stopped from taking action against people that are stealing from them is a ludicrous position. It doesn't matter how much money they've made before, or how much they are losing, but they are being treated unjustly as artists. More power to them for standing up for their rights. I wish them luck, if only to set an important precedent.
I'm against invasion of privacy and all that, but hell, don't use the service if you don't want your illegal activities tracked! If you break the law using somebody's system, be prepared to stand the consequences. Deal, people.
I wasn't going to buy any Metallica merchandise before, and this isn't going to change anything, but it almost makes we want to support them.
bzzzzzzzzt! Sorry, try again. You can create the mp3 - that's ok. Just like you can copy a CD to audio cassette or DAT so *you* can listen to it. If you trade it or give it away, *that* is illegal.
Plastic might be lumped under petrochemicals... depends on your point of view... though I'm sure they are 'performance' - just think of how much lighter cars are due to plastic and fiberglass.
Didn't see that in the download - just a variant on a network auth protocol... which you 'are not allowed to implement', so they certainly don't want anybody else playing in their sandbox...
Yeah - I think the button should be 'add my +1 bonus'. I've had it for a long time, and stopped using it (mostly) several months ago, after a flurry of 'overrated' negative moderation each time I did use it. I use it now and then when I really want a post to trickle a little higher up, but not usually. It seems to attract more trolls than anything else. It shouldn't be abused, that's for sure, but it shouldn't be the default behavior, either - that's half the problem - sometimes I forget to click the button, and it ends up that way. Oh well, but the system is backward.
Of course, it seems like most people don't understand the +1 thing anyway (nobody reads anymore). "How did this get moderated up to a 2?" isn't seen as often as it used to, but still too often...
[sound of clicking the 'No Score +1 Bonus' button...]
Heck, you don't even need to install X, if you don't want... and even if you do, there's no guarantee that you've installed any WM or apps for it 8^)
Seriously - KDE2 looks a real Good Thing. People can complain about how it looks all Windows and everything, but KDE 1.1.1 is far more functionally appealing than any MS GUI to date, and is flexible enough for my tastes (well, almost). Compiles better than Gnome under AIX, so I use it at work... and therefore I use it at home, in order to keep myself a little consistent.
I can't speak for anyone else here, but I'm sorry that you have been put off Linux or anything by "a year's worth of zealotry and bigoted postings". I'm not saying that you should use Linux - use whatever works for you. I run NT on one computer, 98 on another, and Linux on another box (and AIX at work). They all have their purposes, are useful for different tasks, and have advantages and disadvantages. You should try things for yourself, and see what you think. If you don't like linux, I personally don't care - it doesn't have any affect on my wallet, and I am not personally offended. There are zealots of every kind no matter where you are, both on the net and in real life. I've seen sites of MS zealots, BSD zealots, Linux zealots, nVidia zealots, 3Dfx zealots - whatever. Make up your mind for yourself based on the merits of a product, not what complete strangers claim they know.
You seem to still visit/. even though you claim to be dissapointed with it. Why is that? You obviously see some worth in it, or at least enjoy it as entertainment.
Whether or not you represent the open-source community, that has been much of the focus of/. since its inception - the site started with justa few people and their interests, and has grown significantly. The scope of the site has grown wider over time as a more diverse group has come to play, but there are some things that take a long time to change, and many people would rather that they don't.
The majority of the projects that are announced here are usually fairly important, though there have been some things I've seen that made me say, "huh? How'd that get on here?" Of course, I say that about a lot of reposted stories that aren't open-source related (see: Dropsquad or Furby Autopsy).
Remember - the only way to make change here is to submit stories that you think are of interest, and to comment on the ones we have. You can vote with your words or your silence.
I don't let zealots bother me any more than Barney, the Teletubbies, the WB, or other inane behavior. Think for yourself.
Things are kinda strange around here... I just moved to Minnesota this past year... and I find out I need to call to arrange garbage service? They charge me based on the size of container they leave for me?! $10.95/mo (+ other stuff) for a 35 gallon bin. Crazy. But you get your choice of a few different companies (same price, same size, same pickup days)... Back in NJ, it was just part of your yearly taxes, and cost significantly less (though the property taxes were much higher overall)...
I'm just amazed that this isn't a city/town/whatever service. If you are outside the city limits, you can haul your own trash to the dump, that's alright, but when you live in the 'city' (Rochester isn't really a city), that sort of thing should just be done. Bah!
Score (-17, way the heck off topic)
[back on topic now] Try freeboxen.com for getting rid of old parts (that work, or some that don't) - it's amazing, but *somebody* just might want it.
Re:*snip* *snip* - removing GNU software
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Time to go get an alpha an a copy of DEC's compiler (or compaq, whatever)...
...or you could just be a good boy and write everything in nasm (or an equivalent).
I suppose the easiest way would be to delete linux and install Mickeysoft Windoom - that hardly solves ethical problems... and certainly qon't let you run your linux apps very well...
Slashdot Mirror
My year old celeron does it in ~3 minutes, give or take. I still remember when I got my pentium 100, and took my compiles down from ~1h15m(486/66) to ~12m. *That* was bliss.
/. posters aren't kernel developers either ;)
;-) Never got it quite stable enough to merge in, but it worked for me... as long as you waited a little bit between a network stop and start... the restart would trigger some nasty interrupts, and spew madness to the screen for a while... not anything I would feel comfortable submitting. Then I sold the card to a windows user friend. Works great 8^)
>I'd guess quite a lot of
Gee, I hope not 8^) My best effort was fixing a network driver... non-Becker, of course
What's wrong with:
/boot stuff is nonsense - I 'fix' that first thing after installing a distro...
make bzlilo; make modules; make modules_install
or getting more picky:
make bzlilo; make modules_install (since it'll make the modules first anyway)
bzlilo takes care of all of your stuff... and I still think that
Well... some of the VPN stuff was updated in .13 and .14, so even patches to earlier versions get a little bit hairy. I think I went from .12 to .14 - I picked up the new version when I moved. System was up before that, and when I moved, I needed the new VPN functions, so I grabbed and recompiled. Only been down once since then (CPU upgrade). If there's nothing that really grabs you (aside from DDoS fixes - which you can patch and redo on the fly with modules), you generally don't need to upgrade every version... though back in college I was a little more obsessive - had to have the newest dev kernel on my backup box within a couple hours of release, or I felt behind... a little sick, but fun. Now I just want it to behave, and I keep my eyes open for whichever releases have the stuff I want...
found spewing forth from a formation know as 'Jon Katz'. Scientists were amazed at the quantity of 'fully ionized hydrogen' (known to the common man as 'hot' air) that spews from Mr. Katz on a faily regular basis. "We were astounded," said Prof. Frink, "that this one trash columnist could produce more hydrogen than all of the supermarket tabloids and Mindcraft put together. Und hey!"
/. 'trolls' we quoted as saying "j0n k47z 5Ux0r5!!!" and "Hot grits down my pants", though these may be independant of the Katz Gas discovery. From somewhere in Minnesota, this is Tower, wishing you a gas-free day.
Other preliminary research also indicates that the 'I Love You' worm mail was perpetrated solely to prevent the further distribuion of this 'Katz Gas', as it is known. One high level source, who wishes to remain anonymous claims, "It's only a theory right now, but it stands to reason that by bogging down the internet with more e-mails, and having the larger part of the 'Slashdot community' busy handling problems and bashing Microsoft, the spread of 'Katz Gas' could be minimized."
We'll continue monitoring this phemonenon, as it is noted that other 'Katz Gas' leaks will happen on a regular basis, often choking people with lack of wit and reason. Several
Situation:
I was in college. I had a 21" monitor. DVD drive. No TV. Didn't have room for it, or any need for it. Poor reception, and the lounge had a TV. Why should I be forced to buy a multi-hundred dollar player and a multi-hundred dollar screen when I already have quality equipment for it? Or pay another $100+ dollars for Windows, just so I can waste drive space to watch DVDs?
A lot of college students spent decent money on their computers, and don't necessarily have a lot left over (or space left over) for a TV/DVDp.
Besides, I tend to be fairly demanding of my video/audio equipment - I can't stand watching an inferior player throw crap to an inferior screen with one speaker out the side... especially when I already have a flat computer tube with digital audio out to a real decoder.
Should Jon Katz be Fired?
[] Yes
[] Absoloutely
[] Jon Katz sucks
Really, who keeps paying him, and why? Must be for ad traffic (I use a blocker, so it doesn't matter)... I can't think of any other reason.
He probably creates more useless packets than Melissa or I Love You - at least I Love You has a positive message to it, rather than 'The Sanctity of Our World is Crumbling Around Us!!!!!!!', which seems to be the theme of every post Jon Katz has ever made.
Bah!
aside from nearly a nearly word-for-word copy of the c|net article (bad enough), he makes some really outrageous statements, none of which have any relevance to the industry or law...
I won't ever buy 90% of the music that I've heard on mp3, and the other 10% is my own stuff anyway. If I can get one Metallica song for free, what the hell. Saves me a whole lot of money. It's really not encouraging me to buy the CD. Granted, it *did* encourage me to purchase Big Bad Voodoo Daddy, but it also stopped me from purchasing the Episode 1 soundtrack (all DVD concerns aside).
The point is, Jon saying that this band should be stopped from taking action against people that are stealing from them is a ludicrous position. It doesn't matter how much money they've made before, or how much they are losing, but they are being treated unjustly as artists. More power to them for standing up for their rights. I wish them luck, if only to set an important precedent.
I'm against invasion of privacy and all that, but hell, don't use the service if you don't want your illegal activities tracked! If you break the law using somebody's system, be prepared to stand the consequences. Deal, people.
I wasn't going to buy any Metallica merchandise before, and this isn't going to change anything, but it almost makes we want to support them.
>No, creating the MP3 is illegal
bzzzzzzzzt! Sorry, try again. You can create the mp3 - that's ok. Just like you can copy a CD to audio cassette or DAT so *you* can listen to it. If you trade it or give it away, *that* is illegal.
>Real programmers use ps auxww
nah: ps -ef
Yeah - it's a pretty fluff article, all in all - no real explanations or text. Somebody was bored, and put together a 5th grade report.
Oops.... I meant to add, 'as well under the performance materials, since they did mention polymers'.
Stupid submit reflex...
I think that plastics are probably covered under petrochemicals, though it isn't specifically mentioned...
Plastic might be lumped under petrochemicals... depends on your point of view... though I'm sure they are 'performance' - just think of how much lighter cars are due to plastic and fiberglass.
Would be semi-useful navigation on their site. What? No previous or next links on the different achievment pages? Hello, McFly?
>This is Microsoft's new OS.
Didn't see that in the download - just a variant on a network auth protocol... which you 'are not allowed to implement', so they certainly don't want anybody else playing in their sandbox...
Yeah - I think the button should be 'add my +1 bonus'. I've had it for a long time, and stopped using it (mostly) several months ago, after a flurry of 'overrated' negative moderation each time I did use it. I use it now and then when I really want a post to trickle a little higher up, but not usually. It seems to attract more trolls than anything else. It shouldn't be abused, that's for sure, but it shouldn't be the default behavior, either - that's half the problem - sometimes I forget to click the button, and it ends up that way. Oh well, but the system is backward.
Of course, it seems like most people don't understand the +1 thing anyway (nobody reads anymore). "How did this get moderated up to a 2?" isn't seen as often as it used to, but still too often...
[sound of clicking the 'No Score +1 Bonus' button...]
Heck, you don't even need to install X, if you don't want... and even if you do, there's no guarantee that you've installed any WM or apps for it 8^)
Seriously - KDE2 looks a real Good Thing. People can complain about how it looks all Windows and everything, but KDE 1.1.1 is far more functionally appealing than any MS GUI to date, and is flexible enough for my tastes (well, almost). Compiles better than Gnome under AIX, so I use it at work... and therefore I use it at home, in order to keep myself a little consistent.
yeah - some here think that a large flaming pile of dung icon would be better ;-)
Yup - check out IBM's open source developer site - including JFS (the AIX journaled FS) for Linux.
s ource/
http://OSS.Software.IBM.Com/developerworks/open
I can't speak for anyone else here, but I'm sorry that you have been put off Linux or anything by "a year's worth of zealotry and bigoted postings". I'm not saying that you should use Linux - use whatever works for you. I run NT on one computer, 98 on another, and Linux on another box (and AIX at work). They all have their purposes, are useful for different tasks, and have advantages and disadvantages. You should try things for yourself, and see what you think. If you don't like linux, I personally don't care - it doesn't have any affect on my wallet, and I am not personally offended. There are zealots of every kind no matter where you are, both on the net and in real life. I've seen sites of MS zealots, BSD zealots, Linux zealots, nVidia zealots, 3Dfx zealots - whatever. Make up your mind for yourself based on the merits of a product, not what complete strangers claim they know.
/. even though you claim to be dissapointed with it. Why is that? You obviously see some worth in it, or at least enjoy it as entertainment.
/. since its inception - the site started with justa few people and their interests, and has grown significantly. The scope of the site has grown wider over time as a more diverse group has come to play, but there are some things that take a long time to change, and many people would rather that they don't.
You seem to still visit
Whether or not you represent the open-source community, that has been much of the focus of
The majority of the projects that are announced here are usually fairly important, though there have been some things I've seen that made me say, "huh? How'd that get on here?" Of course, I say that about a lot of reposted stories that aren't open-source related (see: Dropsquad or Furby Autopsy).
Remember - the only way to make change here is to submit stories that you think are of interest, and to comment on the ones we have. You can vote with your words or your silence.
I don't let zealots bother me any more than Barney, the Teletubbies, the WB, or other inane behavior. Think for yourself.
yup, I know somebody who was using an old SE30 (4MB)with OpenBSD as a webserver. Just a toy, but pretty neat.
get rid of it - somebody will take it!
Things are kinda strange around here... I just moved to Minnesota this past year... and I find out I need to call to arrange garbage service? They charge me based on the size of container they leave for me?! $10.95/mo (+ other stuff) for a 35 gallon bin. Crazy. But you get your choice of a few different companies (same price, same size, same pickup days)... Back in NJ, it was just part of your yearly taxes, and cost significantly less (though the property taxes were much higher overall)...
I'm just amazed that this isn't a city/town/whatever service. If you are outside the city limits, you can haul your own trash to the dump, that's alright, but when you live in the 'city' (Rochester isn't really a city), that sort of thing should just be done. Bah!
Score (-17, way the heck off topic)
[back on topic now]
Try freeboxen.com for getting rid of old parts (that work, or some that don't) - it's amazing, but *somebody* just might want it.
Time to go get an alpha an a copy of DEC's compiler (or compaq, whatever)...
...or you could just be a good boy and write everything in nasm (or an equivalent).
I suppose the easiest way would be to delete linux and install Mickeysoft Windoom - that hardly solves ethical problems... and certainly qon't let you run your linux apps very well...
Seeing as how the Supreme court thinks:
"The public would not be well served by compelling an (internet service provider) to examine and screen millions of e-mail communications..."
Glad somebody is taking care of that. Thanks, NSA!