To me this sounds like paranoia. The points are interesting enough, but to assume that the AOL / Netscape merger is going to force Apple into a tight corner is ludicrous - Jobs and Co. will do that on their own.
Besides, doesn't anyone remember that the third party in this merger is Sun? Who's to say that Sun wont develop a consumer version of the Corona (a kickass $500 semi X-term) and push that as their appliance?
I went to a very technical, high-level Jini presentation awhile back and I have to say that while the idea surrounding it is totally wickedly cool, the security nighmare with it hasn't been addressed in the least bit. The example given was have somebody break into your car, attach his palm pilot and BINGO Jini accepts him in the net and the car is his.
It's nowhere near ready for anything at this level yet and won't be for a long time.
If you had read the full post you would have seen that I mention the arrogance of all OS fans as well.
Of course most Linux users would say "I love my linux because it works and I don't have to spend all fucking day on my job because it does things one at a time..oops...force quit on Netscape... oops no protected memory I guess I'll have to reboot again... click that mouse button and watch the web page stop loading until I let go... AppleTalk (turtle talk) is hosed again, reboot the server for the n-th time today"
I think what irks most people so much about Apple is the arrogance of the established user base. I dont' think anyone would / could argue logically that the Mac sucks from top to bottom. It does some things really well and has shortcomings like all other OS's.
The main rub with the user-base is that most of them don't know what the other OS's can do and that other systems are superior or equivalent in many ways. This can be said for huge devotees of every OS, but the Mac has a more vocal and loyal base than any other platform.
I wish everybody could ease up on things and realize that different systems fit the need of very different people. Quit bashing already.
No, no..you didn't read the last part of my first post. We kill the survivors at the end, thereby eliminating egomaina, megalomania and freeing the minds and hands of computing forever...hahahahaha
Agreed those are all good things to have. But for $500 and the bucks I have to shell out for a G3, I'd also like things I can usually get with the above list (NT excluded) like:
SMTP DNS SMB Connectivity
C'mon. OSX server is a nice first step. It's unproven at this point and will remain in Apple's line of "niche" products. I think it's a good first step, but there's still a long road ahead for them to be a player for the rest of the non-Mac world...(read 90% of us).
Well...kind of. The OS-X port on Sun was a necessity, because it flat out didn't work on PPC and the SPARC platform allowed for testing. I seriously doubt we'll ever see OS X on anything but an overprices PPC Apple HW box. They're not that willing to give up the old proprietary business that's killing them slowly.
Great news and considering the other SMP PPC options available...the ones from Motorola were like $3000 just for the board and Apple..well...there are very few (if any left) SMP PPC boxes from them and only the MAC OS would run on them without SMP support until OSX, this is an excellent new alternative at a decent price. I'm impressed.
Sounds solid enough. I think that's the sort of mentality and gumption it's going to take to get people to realize that this sort of technology is not HW or OS specific.
It's also well known that IBM has ported Solaris 7 over to the RS6000. From what I heard, when they did the initial release of AIX they dicked with 95% of the code and made it run poorly. Sun came to the rescue, but I don't think we'll ever see a real union and a chance of getting Solaris 7 on a RS6000 to us consumer types - although the idea of Solaris on a PPC box would be kick-ass.
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SecureWave which uses a small kernel agent that uses a whitelist approach. Anything not allowed by the admin is dropped and considered deadware.
It's the only thing out there like that!
http://www.securewave.com/home.jsp
I know lot's of Mac users that love AOL. Why? Because like the Mac, the feel it's much easier and reliable than the real internet.
To me this sounds like paranoia. The points are interesting enough, but to assume that the AOL / Netscape merger is going to force Apple into a tight corner is ludicrous - Jobs and Co. will do that on their own.
Besides, doesn't anyone remember that the third party in this merger is Sun? Who's to say that Sun wont develop a consumer version of the Corona (a kickass $500 semi X-term) and push that as their appliance?
I went to a very technical, high-level Jini presentation awhile back and I have to say that while the idea surrounding it is totally wickedly cool, the security nighmare with it hasn't been addressed in the least bit. The example given was have somebody break into your car, attach his palm pilot and BINGO Jini accepts him in the net and the car is his.
It's nowhere near ready for anything at this level yet and won't be for a long time.
If you had read the full post you would have seen that I mention the arrogance of all OS fans as well.
... click that mouse button and watch the web page stop loading until I let go ... AppleTalk (turtle talk) is hosed again, reboot the server for the n-th time today"
Of course most Linux users would say "I love my linux because it works and I don't have to spend all fucking day on my job because it does things one at a time..oops...force quit on Netscape... oops no protected memory I guess I'll have to reboot again
You see my friend, it's all relative.
DORK! NIC Card? That's redundantly redundant. Network Interface Card Card.
I think what irks most people so much about Apple is the arrogance of the established user base. I dont' think anyone would / could argue logically that the Mac sucks from top to bottom. It does some things really well and has shortcomings like all other OS's.
The main rub with the user-base is that most of them don't know what the other OS's can do and that other systems are superior or equivalent in many ways. This can be said for huge devotees of every OS, but the Mac has a more vocal and loyal base than any other platform.
I wish everybody could ease up on things and realize that different systems fit the need of very different people. Quit bashing already.
Or is it the Gremlin? Or is it the Pinto? No matter which way you look at it it's UG-LY
It's the newest flavor of the iMac...haven't you heard?
No, no..you didn't read the last part of my first post. We kill the survivors at the end, thereby eliminating egomaina, megalomania and freeing the minds and hands of computing forever...hahahahaha
Both Gates and Ellison are manipulative megalomaniacs.
Hell, I say throw them AND Steve Jobs in a ring and let's have an old fashiond Texas Death Cage match and kill the survivors!
Agreed those are all good things to have. But for $500 and the bucks I have to shell out for a G3, I'd also like things I can usually get with the above list (NT excluded) like:
SMTP
DNS
SMB Connectivity
C'mon. OSX server is a nice first step. It's unproven at this point and will remain in Apple's line of "niche" products. I think it's a good first step, but there's still a long road ahead for them to be a player for the rest of the non-Mac world...(read 90% of us).
Thank you. That's what I was going to ask.
Yes... multi-tasking on a Mac... only 5 years after everybody else had it.
Zip..Bang.
Right on and to the point!
Well...kind of. The OS-X port on Sun was a necessity, because it flat out didn't work on PPC and the SPARC platform allowed for testing. I seriously doubt we'll ever see OS X on anything but an overprices PPC Apple HW box. They're not that willing to give up the old proprietary business that's killing them slowly.
Amen
Yeah, but can you totally rid your box of MacOS altogether on those? That's something I've never quite figured out.
Great news and considering the other SMP PPC options available ...the ones from Motorola were like $3000 just for the board and Apple..well...there are very few (if any left) SMP PPC boxes from them and only the MAC OS would run on them without SMP support until OSX, this is an excellent new alternative at a decent price. I'm impressed.
Sounds solid enough. I think that's the sort of mentality and gumption it's going to take to get people to realize that this sort of technology is not HW or OS specific.
Well, full 64-bit architecture, and if my source is correct, IBM also licenced the gigaplane bus from Sun...meaning mondo data rates.
It's also well known that IBM has ported Solaris 7 over to the RS6000. From what I heard, when they did the initial release of AIX they dicked with 95% of the code and made it run poorly. Sun came to the rescue, but I don't think we'll ever see a real union and a chance of getting Solaris 7 on a RS6000 to us consumer types - although the idea of Solaris on a PPC box would be kick-ass.
Remember that hyped product that all but killed the OS as we know it?
Actually, MOSR.com reports that the mach stuff is being joined with the NuKernel stuff that Copeland had (stupid move).
Yeah, but we all know you'd pay anything to support your Mac habit TAK....just kidding.