Batman is from the 30s. The really well-known campy Batman TV series (which was live action anyway) is from the 60s.
Of course, lots of modern comics are crap - Spawn, for instance. (which got made into a crappy movie, whaddya know)
Most good comics these days have virtually nothing to do with superheroes - I'd love to see a Thieves and Kings cartoon on TV, but most people don't associate comics with anything but superheroes anyway.
Of course we charged them. It was a pre-press department; our policy was "The customer is never right.";)
Sadly, there was a large sales department in between me (and the other operators) and the clients. So I never got to find out if the people who sent us botched jobs were worth being nice to.
OTOH, when you work at a factory that makes PVC cards (e.g. driver's licenses, library cards, hotel keycards, transit cards, phone cards, all kinds of free passes, frequent flyer cards, etc.) it is useful to keep a few... ahem... production proofs around for a rainy day;)
And you're just now realizing this? I liked it a lot back in the first year (although it was really awful to look at) but by the third or fourth year it had just become total crap. And it was already being supplanted by the Web, which didn't catch on until roughly around that time.
It is fun to poke through my old back issues from time to time and see when urls finally started appearing;)
Oh the Tandy stores still exist. When I lived in the Boston area, the local RS was next door to the Tandy store. Guess it was easier for them that way.
Heh. We used to loathe getting PDFs for jobs back when I was in pre-press. It invariably meant that there was going to be a typo or something that we couldn't fix when the client saw it in the proofs, and that the job would just come back and waste more of our time later.;)
Actually they did ship Macs with serial mice. ADB first made it's appearance on the IIgs. The first Macs to use it were the SE and the II.
But I think that rather than meaning that any one particular thing on the Mac is proprietary he probably meant that they use proprietary motherboards - you can't just walk into a store and get a generic Mac board the same way that you can with IBM clones. (though I did build my own system around a 4400 board some years back;)
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Sure, but do you have enough faith in what this crowd could develop collectively to bet your life on it?
NASA never uses the latest thing because they test their stuff out rigorously. And honestly, I'm happy with that. Some day Andy Griffith will make it into space, but not just yet.
ProCD involved IIRC an incredibly abridged version of the license (basically indicating that the 'Compleate Licfence Agreemente' was within.
I don't think that anyone ever cared in the ProCD case about the terms of the license; it was whether or not you were stuck with it. The judge (stupidly) ruled that unless the contract violated the law or was unconscionable you didn't have to even see it to agree to it if you bought the software (because it's expected that your purchase is conditional on the acceptance of the license)
Weirdly enough though, this was determined to only govern the software in the result of commercial transactions. If you find a random copy of software on the street, you're NOT bound by the license.
Personally I've always prefered the idea of writing 3rd party installer programs that can be used to install software (by reading through the script that the original installer has) w/o even seeing a license agreement, much less being forced to agree to it to use software that you already paid for.
Well that's the trick - EULAs haven't been tested very much in the courts, and opinions are divided.
IMHO software licenses that force you to agree to use the software after you've purchased it are invalid because:
1) You own the copy, and you're free to use it as you please so long as you don't violate copyright laws (copyright laws that prohibit usage are pretty evidently unconstitutional, and are likely to get overturned...)
2) All the license can offer is a right that you already have - to use the software you paid for. How can that be valid.
Software companies don't _need_ licenses. They're already protected by copyright law. The GPL is one of the handful that recognize this. It's not as though it would be legal to hawk homemade copies of Windows on the streets if they got rid of the EULA.
I don't recall when it was passed, but 17 USC 117 pretty clearly states that it's legal to copy computer software into other parts of a computer (e.g. from a CD to a HD to RAM to Cache etc) if it's a necessary step in utilizing it.
Provided that you legally own a copy of the software anyway (not the copyright - just own a copy)
Honestly, there have only been AFAIK a handful of cases with regards to this issue. And they're split between camp A (If the box says that you're bound by a document stored in a basement beyond a sign saying 'beware of the tiger' then you are, buddy) and camp B (you've got to be joking - software licenses are stupid, violating, as they do, long held principles of contract law)
Last I heard the B side was edging into the lead, but I don't expect to see a resolution on this for a while.
IANAL, but copyright prohibits you from copying that code. It doesn't prohibit you from using it. And since they gave it to him before there could be even any pretense at mutual agreement to a license (which is dubious legally anyway - the courts are still hashing it out) they really haven't got a leg to stand on.
He's probably referring to the original Copyright Act of... what? 1797 or something? It was 14 years, was really only used for books and maps, and hardly anyone even bothered.
OTOH, if you're using an analog system or a digital system with rights management you _can_ copy music under the AHRA. Napster is trying to use this... perhaps they'll get away with it b/c of the single instance of generational loss when ENCODING the mp3 in the first place, though I doubt it. Still, better to support them than the RIAA.:/
However, you're wrong IMHO about the life+70 being constitutional. Firstly because the trend of constantly lengthening the duration of copyrights retroactively makes them de facto unlimited (a 'jam tomorrow but never jam today' sort of deal)
Secondly because it's very arguable that a duration like that does not promote the useful arts and sciences - do you argue that it does? Well in order to be constitutional it has to do that as well.
And there's the third criteria (which is far more applicable in the DVD cases than the Napster case though it shows up there too) wherein the rights must be held by the author or inventor. An author who WANTS to use DeCSS on their own copyrighted work must be permitted to, or else some of their exclusive rights require the permission of third parties like the MPAA. (and also using it on Public Domain works, of which there haven't been any for a long time, and may never again appear if the MPAA and RIAA have their way)
Fair use was created by the Judiciary ~150 years ago (and the doctrine still takes precedence over anything Congress says, as it derives from the Constitution) and serves in order to promote the useful arts and sciences. The classic examples are educational use but there are others. Despite not being named in the Constitution, it's pretty clear that if you can't quote some work legally, or resell it, or use any means of choice to use it, the laws aren't constitutional.
Yep. Mitnick was, last I heard, involved in just such an issue. He wants his stuff back (having done his time) but the government won't release it until he divulges his passwords. And since it's information that he knows that could implicate him in further crimes, he's well within his rights to clam up.
The trick is that the govt. is not giving his stuff back despite having no proof that they'll find anything.
Heh. That's quite a load of bullshit. There were a _lot_ of musicians during the middle ages. In fact, if you could memorize songs and stories, you could make quite a bit of money. There are stories about such musicians that wandered throughout Europe, welcome wherever they went.
But not much has survived because there really wasn't a method of musical notation yet (that was developed by monks and took a while to become widely used) nor recording music.
In the realm of art and literature much more has survived, and all of the works of the ages (including the vast majority that did not survive due to fires, need for construction materials, religious wars etc) were copyrightless. Copyrights didn't exist (at least not the kind you're thinking of) until the 17th century. Are you telling me that there were NO creative works until then?
the only reason a/ux ever existed was IIRC government regulations that mandated that computers they bought had to be able to run a POSIX OS. They didn't have to actually run it, they just had to be able to.
In fact, you're the first person I've ever talked to that _did_ use it. I understand that most people just bought it to satisfy the requirement, and then sat down and used the Mac, never even opening the a/ux package.
I suspect that MS's Xenix was sold to OEMs selling to the government as well. But a/ux died around the time of the Great PowerPC Migration and has never come back since (though there was MAE, which was a Mac on Unix type of deal...)
it's got to come with _some_ kind of mouse. might as well be a simple one that everyone's used to. By all means, if you want a multibutton mouse, just get one. You might need a driver for some of the more exotic ones, but generally I'd expect them to just work. (and there are plenty of people that'll buy the Apple mouse off of you, I'm sure;)
The G4 Cubes have been having trouble with their power - going to sleep randomly, shutting down, not quite starting up, that kind of thing. It's probably related to the new power switches (which are entirely electronic - no mechanical parts at all) on the screens and cubes, and some parts coming loose in shipping.
Of course, I haven't had any particular problems with my NeXT cube, other than an overwhelming desire to buy a matching subwoofer;)
Heh. I suppose that that _is_ the one DC connection people can standardize on, but I find it very funny that planes these days would have cigarette lighters
Give it read-only access to the navigational computer (assuming they're adding this to new/retrofitted planes and not trying to bolt them to thirty year old DC10s) and some motors.
After all, before those fixed Hughes mini-dishes sprouted up everywhere, satellite dishes were BIG, and you had to point them all over the sky to get different channels.
If the plane makes a really sudden change in heading or something you might lose the signal, but presumably that doesn't happen unless you're about to crash - the plane, that is.;)
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I can't help you with the petrified bit, but IIRC she goes to that small liberal arts college just up the road from MIT.
Batman is from the 30s. The really well-known campy Batman TV series (which was live action anyway) is from the 60s.
Of course, lots of modern comics are crap - Spawn, for instance. (which got made into a crappy movie, whaddya know)
Most good comics these days have virtually nothing to do with superheroes - I'd love to see a Thieves and Kings cartoon on TV, but most people don't associate comics with anything but superheroes anyway.
I think you're thinking of Romero
Of course we charged them. It was a pre-press department; our policy was "The customer is never right." ;)
;)
Sadly, there was a large sales department in between me (and the other operators) and the clients. So I never got to find out if the people who sent us botched jobs were worth being nice to.
OTOH, when you work at a factory that makes PVC cards (e.g. driver's licenses, library cards, hotel keycards, transit cards, phone cards, all kinds of free passes, frequent flyer cards, etc.) it is useful to keep a few... ahem... production proofs around for a rainy day
And you're just now realizing this? I liked it a lot back in the first year (although it was really awful to look at) but by the third or fourth year it had just become total crap. And it was already being supplanted by the Web, which didn't catch on until roughly around that time.
;)
It is fun to poke through my old back issues from time to time and see when urls finally started appearing
Oh the Tandy stores still exist. When I lived in the Boston area, the local RS was next door to the Tandy store. Guess it was easier for them that way.
Heh. We used to loathe getting PDFs for jobs back when I was in pre-press. It invariably meant that there was going to be a typo or something that we couldn't fix when the client saw it in the proofs, and that the job would just come back and waste more of our time later. ;)
Actually they did ship Macs with serial mice. ADB first made it's appearance on the IIgs. The first Macs to use it were the SE and the II.
;)
But I think that rather than meaning that any one particular thing on the Mac is proprietary he probably meant that they use proprietary motherboards - you can't just walk into a store and get a generic Mac board the same way that you can with IBM clones. (though I did build my own system around a 4400 board some years back
Sure, but do you have enough faith in what this crowd could develop collectively to bet your life on it?
NASA never uses the latest thing because they test their stuff out rigorously. And honestly, I'm happy with that. Some day Andy Griffith will make it into space, but not just yet.
ProCD involved IIRC an incredibly abridged version of the license (basically indicating that the 'Compleate Licfence Agreemente' was within.
I don't think that anyone ever cared in the ProCD case about the terms of the license; it was whether or not you were stuck with it. The judge (stupidly) ruled that unless the contract violated the law or was unconscionable you didn't have to even see it to agree to it if you bought the software (because it's expected that your purchase is conditional on the acceptance of the license)
Weirdly enough though, this was determined to only govern the software in the result of commercial transactions. If you find a random copy of software on the street, you're NOT bound by the license.
Personally I've always prefered the idea of writing 3rd party installer programs that can be used to install software (by reading through the script that the original installer has) w/o even seeing a license agreement, much less being forced to agree to it to use software that you already paid for.
Well that's the trick - EULAs haven't been tested very much in the courts, and opinions are divided.
IMHO software licenses that force you to agree to use the software after you've purchased it are invalid because:
1) You own the copy, and you're free to use it as you please so long as you don't violate copyright laws (copyright laws that prohibit usage are pretty evidently unconstitutional, and are likely to get overturned...)
2) All the license can offer is a right that you already have - to use the software you paid for. How can that be valid.
Software companies don't _need_ licenses. They're already protected by copyright law. The GPL is one of the handful that recognize this. It's not as though it would be legal to hawk homemade copies of Windows on the streets if they got rid of the EULA.
I don't recall when it was passed, but 17 USC 117 pretty clearly states that it's legal to copy computer software into other parts of a computer (e.g. from a CD to a HD to RAM to Cache etc) if it's a necessary step in utilizing it.
Provided that you legally own a copy of the software anyway (not the copyright - just own a copy)
Honestly, there have only been AFAIK a handful of cases with regards to this issue. And they're split between camp A (If the box says that you're bound by a document stored in a basement beyond a sign saying 'beware of the tiger' then you are, buddy) and camp B (you've got to be joking - software licenses are stupid, violating, as they do, long held principles of contract law)
Last I heard the B side was edging into the lead, but I don't expect to see a resolution on this for a while.
IANAL, but copyright prohibits you from copying that code. It doesn't prohibit you from using it. And since they gave it to him before there could be even any pretense at mutual agreement to a license (which is dubious legally anyway - the courts are still hashing it out) they really haven't got a leg to stand on.
Ah well...
which is bad because either (or possibly both) the manufacturing process and the trashed cells are bad for the environment to boot.
He's probably referring to the original Copyright Act of... what? 1797 or something? It was 14 years, was really only used for books and maps, and hardly anyone even bothered.
:/
OTOH, if you're using an analog system or a digital system with rights management you _can_ copy music under the AHRA. Napster is trying to use this... perhaps they'll get away with it b/c of the single instance of generational loss when ENCODING the mp3 in the first place, though I doubt it. Still, better to support them than the RIAA.
However, you're wrong IMHO about the life+70 being constitutional. Firstly because the trend of constantly lengthening the duration of copyrights retroactively makes them de facto unlimited (a 'jam tomorrow but never jam today' sort of deal)
Secondly because it's very arguable that a duration like that does not promote the useful arts and sciences - do you argue that it does? Well in order to be constitutional it has to do that as well.
And there's the third criteria (which is far more applicable in the DVD cases than the Napster case though it shows up there too) wherein the rights must be held by the author or inventor. An author who WANTS to use DeCSS on their own copyrighted work must be permitted to, or else some of their exclusive rights require the permission of third parties like the MPAA. (and also using it on Public Domain works, of which there haven't been any for a long time, and may never again appear if the MPAA and RIAA have their way)
Fair use was created by the Judiciary ~150 years ago (and the doctrine still takes precedence over anything Congress says, as it derives from the Constitution) and serves in order to promote the useful arts and sciences. The classic examples are educational use but there are others. Despite not being named in the Constitution, it's pretty clear that if you can't quote some work legally, or resell it, or use any means of choice to use it, the laws aren't constitutional.
Yep. Mitnick was, last I heard, involved in just such an issue. He wants his stuff back (having done his time) but the government won't release it until he divulges his passwords. And since it's information that he knows that could implicate him in further crimes, he's well within his rights to clam up.
The trick is that the govt. is not giving his stuff back despite having no proof that they'll find anything.
Heh. That's quite a load of bullshit. There were a _lot_ of musicians during the middle ages. In fact, if you could memorize songs and stories, you could make quite a bit of money. There are stories about such musicians that wandered throughout Europe, welcome wherever they went.
But not much has survived because there really wasn't a method of musical notation yet (that was developed by monks and took a while to become widely used) nor recording music.
In the realm of art and literature much more has survived, and all of the works of the ages (including the vast majority that did not survive due to fires, need for construction materials, religious wars etc) were copyrightless. Copyrights didn't exist (at least not the kind you're thinking of) until the 17th century. Are you telling me that there were NO creative works until then?
the only reason a/ux ever existed was IIRC government regulations that mandated that computers they bought had to be able to run a POSIX OS. They didn't have to actually run it, they just had to be able to.
In fact, you're the first person I've ever talked to that _did_ use it. I understand that most people just bought it to satisfy the requirement, and then sat down and used the Mac, never even opening the a/ux package.
I suspect that MS's Xenix was sold to OEMs selling to the government as well. But a/ux died around the time of the Great PowerPC Migration and has never come back since (though there was MAE, which was a Mac on Unix type of deal...)
it's got to come with _some_ kind of mouse. might as well be a simple one that everyone's used to. By all means, if you want a multibutton mouse, just get one. You might need a driver for some of the more exotic ones, but generally I'd expect them to just work. (and there are plenty of people that'll buy the Apple mouse off of you, I'm sure ;)
you mean i registered macosxiv.com for nothing?
Yeah, tell me about it.
It's things like this that make me want to move out to the middle of nowhere (I'm partial to 0N 120W ) and start a new country.
Bleh.
The G4 Cubes have been having trouble with their power - going to sleep randomly, shutting down, not quite starting up, that kind of thing. It's probably related to the new power switches (which are entirely electronic - no mechanical parts at all) on the screens and cubes, and some parts coming loose in shipping.
;)
Of course, I haven't had any particular problems with my NeXT cube, other than an overwhelming desire to buy a matching subwoofer
Heh. I suppose that that _is_ the one DC connection people can standardize on, but I find it very funny that planes these days would have cigarette lighters
Give it read-only access to the navigational computer (assuming they're adding this to new/retrofitted planes and not trying to bolt them to thirty year old DC10s) and some motors.
;)
After all, before those fixed Hughes mini-dishes sprouted up everywhere, satellite dishes were BIG, and you had to point them all over the sky to get different channels.
If the plane makes a really sudden change in heading or something you might lose the signal, but presumably that doesn't happen unless you're about to crash - the plane, that is.