So, back when most people believed the world was flat, that made it right? Or that the sun and stars revolved around the earth? How about the people who voted for George W Bush the second time - like they couldn't even learn from their mistakes? The voters who weighted that last pig sure got it wrong!
Does anyone still think "oh wow, airmiles!!!" ? What's a million airmiles worth? 3,000.00 to $6,500.00
This is like the guy who says "I lost my wallet with $1,000.00 in it. I'll pay $100.00 to whoever finds it!" Someone else immediately says "I'll pay $200.00"
The guy is 35 and has no relevant paid experience, just some "on my own time playing with code". By the time he gets any sort of cert, he'll be pushing 40. He'll be competing with people 10 years younger with years of actual experience. Nobody's going to hire him.
Who knows what he's been doing the last 12 years as a real job? Maybe nothing? He's got a 12-year gap in his job history that is getting bigger by the week.
For him that ship has already sailed. Also, linking to a spam site is uncool.
What a failure of logic. Certainly you're not acting rationally in believing that, just because other people believe something they can't provide any evidence to support, that's a reason to believe.
Just like the rest of your post. Please, tell me you're an American. It would explain why Americans are so far behind the rest of the developed world in abandoning religion:-)
It's because you lack the ability to understand that in every transaction there's a buyer and a seller. The employer is the buyer of people's labour, hence they are the customer.
From what I can see of others' responses, if you don't have ad blocking enabled you see a random ad. The submission doesn't make sense because it's SPAM.
I hate these crappy anonymous submissions with their ulterior motives.
Because people believe in something is not a reason to believe in it. Circular reasoning at it's worst.
The wisdom of the crowds is disproved all the time - see the stock bubble, the housing bubble, people lobbying against single-payer universal health care even though it's in their own best interests, buying lottery tickets, smoking, gambling at casinos, marrying someone just like their ex, unprotected sex, etc., all prove that the wisdom of the crowds is just a false perception created via cherry picking.
And I'm certainly not rational all the time... only dead people don't make mistakes in judgment.
Also, I have no more obligation to "prove" my rationality than you do. Consider it like working with noisy data if you wish.
All this debate ignores the main point - to more and more people, there is no god, and that's going to change a lot of things. No more people picketing abortion clinics for Jesus, no more discriminating against LGBTQ because the bible says they should be stoned to death, no more politicians sucking up to the majority religion for votes, no more having to teach creationism beside evolution, no more useless arguments about the death penalty... and this is just off the top of my head.
Thank you. Some people get upset with the idea that humans are the only "rational, sentient beings". Even kids know better, though. Funny how, as we get older, we tend to dismiss the obvious because it's seen as "childish" or "soft-hearted."
Most of mankind is certainly irrational most of the time. Stock market, mortgage crisis, fear of GMOs as Frankenfood, still arguing over climate change, war, especially religious wars, lack of tolerance for people who are different throughout history (burn the witch, anyone?)
So what if the majority has believed until recent times? As my mother said when I was a kid, "would you go jump off a bridge just because everyone else is?"
When you say that the vast majority of mankind has believed it, you're arguing is that tradition is more important than acting on knowledge. The vast majority of people 50 years ago thought that smoking was actually good for you. Sure, it can be argued that it's a great way to lose weight... one lung at a time... but smoking today is seen as irrational behavior. Drunk driving used to be no biggie, too. So was beating your wife and kids - "spare the rod, spoil the child". For thousands of years barbers would bleed people to "release the bad humors". And from ancient Sparta to today, parents still kill their daughters because they wanted a boy. So much for doing something because others do it.
Again, an extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof - whereas you don't even have a bit of proof for the existence of a creator or god, and there have been so many similar claims throughout history - so obviously at the very least all but one are wrong:-)
And that's not even bringing up the question "who created god?" People who believe in god have no answer, whereas atheists have an answer - "People did."
There is no such thing as a soul, just as there is no god. Both of these beliefs posit something supra-natural, but they are only beliefs, with zero proof, despite. Both have their roots in wishful thinking that, by having "faith", we can deny that when you're dead, you're dead.
The lack of a "soul" has been used as an excuse to enslave people as "just animals." It's been used to justify cruel animal husbandry - they don't "really" suffer.
Fortunately atheism is the fastest growing religious belief, and will be the majority even in the US within 15-20 years. We no longer see things through a glass, darkly:-) Maybe then it won't continue to distort politics and be used as a reason to deny some people who are different the same rights others enjoy.
In other words, you'll become more like Canada, where bringing religion into politics is a good way to consign your political career to the trash heap.
Don't be lazy - there's google for that. But, one example that comes to mind - scientology, the fake religion founded by L. Ron Hubbard. Surely you've heard of it.
He said he wasn't ready to go independent. If he had made an agreement with the employer before taking the job, that would be one thing - he didn't, he is aware that the employer owns the work for hire, and the employer should immediately kick him to the curb and get an injunction just in case he's walked code out the door.
If I were one of his co-workers, I would fully support firing him, because he's putting my job at risk. Screw him.
The employer is the customer. It is the customer who creates jobs. That is what I said originally. That the customer is the employer doesn't matter one whit, so don't be a twit.
Her new employer had agreed to let her stay at her old job for a while as a condition of her employment. Then when she complained about the tracking, the employer engaged in tortious interference of contract.
Whatever happened to "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof"? There is no reason to believe in the existence of any god, so until there is proof otherwise, forget it. That's not being close-minded, it's being rational. Also, we ARE human animals. Sentience isn't limited to just humans, either. First definition of sentience when I googled for it:
Sentience is the ability to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively. Eighteenth-century philosophers used the concept to distinguish the ability to think (reason) from the ability to feel (sentience).
Animals are capable of both reasoning (solving puzzles, etc) and feelings. Not only that, they are also capable of picking up on the feelings of other species - ask any dog owner if their dog knows when they're depressed or frightened, or if they can tell when their dog is happy.
You're the one who refuses to accept a simple ides - that when someone employs someone else, the employer is the customer. This same thinking applies whether it's a homeowner paying the kid next door to mow the lawn or an international corporation paying people to work for them.
Changing the labels to "employer" and "employee" is no different from bogus patents that throw in "on the Internet."
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So, back when most people believed the world was flat, that made it right? Or that the sun and stars revolved around the earth? How about the people who voted for George W Bush the second time - like they couldn't even learn from their mistakes? The voters who weighted that last pig sure got it wrong!
Does anyone still think "oh wow, airmiles!!!" ? What's a million airmiles worth? 3,000.00 to $6,500.00
This is like the guy who says "I lost my wallet with $1,000.00 in it. I'll pay $100.00 to whoever finds it!" Someone else immediately says "I'll pay $200.00"
Yeah, but once we do that, they'll just raise the price.
The guy is 35 and has no relevant paid experience, just some "on my own time playing with code". By the time he gets any sort of cert, he'll be pushing 40. He'll be competing with people 10 years younger with years of actual experience. Nobody's going to hire him.
Who knows what he's been doing the last 12 years as a real job? Maybe nothing? He's got a 12-year gap in his job history that is getting bigger by the week.
For him that ship has already sailed. Also, linking to a spam site is uncool.
What a failure of logic. Certainly you're not acting rationally in believing that, just because other people believe something they can't provide any evidence to support, that's a reason to believe.
Just like the rest of your post. Please, tell me you're an American. It would explain why Americans are so far behind the rest of the developed world in abandoning religion :-)
Just send me an email :-)
It's because you lack the ability to understand that in every transaction there's a buyer and a seller. The employer is the buyer of people's labour, hence they are the customer.
From what I can see of others' responses, if you don't have ad blocking enabled you see a random ad. The submission doesn't make sense because it's SPAM.
I hate these crappy anonymous submissions with their ulterior motives.
You can buy a genuine ID-10-T certificate if you really really want one. Seriously ... Slashdot should stop posting stories from anonymous sources.
At the very least, it's telling you that you need to use Adblock+ :-)
Because people believe in something is not a reason to believe in it. Circular reasoning at it's worst.
The wisdom of the crowds is disproved all the time - see the stock bubble, the housing bubble, people lobbying against single-payer universal health care even though it's in their own best interests, buying lottery tickets, smoking, gambling at casinos, marrying someone just like their ex, unprotected sex, etc., all prove that the wisdom of the crowds is just a false perception created via cherry picking.
And I'm certainly not rational all the time ... only dead people don't make mistakes in judgment.
Also, I have no more obligation to "prove" my rationality than you do. Consider it like working with noisy data if you wish.
All this debate ignores the main point - to more and more people, there is no god, and that's going to change a lot of things. No more people picketing abortion clinics for Jesus, no more discriminating against LGBTQ because the bible says they should be stoned to death, no more politicians sucking up to the majority religion for votes, no more having to teach creationism beside evolution, no more useless arguments about the death penalty ... and this is just off the top of my head.
Nothing. He'll just have to start working for himself earlier than he planned - like the next day.
I thought it was obvious what generated heated calls. Companies could just listen to their customers and then they would know.
Listen to our customers? What a radical idea - you're fired!
Thank you. Some people get upset with the idea that humans are the only "rational, sentient beings". Even kids know better, though. Funny how, as we get older, we tend to dismiss the obvious because it's seen as "childish" or "soft-hearted."
Most of mankind is certainly irrational most of the time. Stock market, mortgage crisis, fear of GMOs as Frankenfood, still arguing over climate change, war, especially religious wars, lack of tolerance for people who are different throughout history (burn the witch, anyone?)
So what if the majority has believed until recent times? As my mother said when I was a kid, "would you go jump off a bridge just because everyone else is?"
When you say that the vast majority of mankind has believed it, you're arguing is that tradition is more important than acting on knowledge. The vast majority of people 50 years ago thought that smoking was actually good for you. Sure, it can be argued that it's a great way to lose weight ... one lung at a time ... but smoking today is seen as irrational behavior. Drunk driving used to be no biggie, too. So was beating your wife and kids - "spare the rod, spoil the child". For thousands of years barbers would bleed people to "release the bad humors". And from ancient Sparta to today, parents still kill their daughters because they wanted a boy. So much for doing something because others do it.
Again, an extraordinary claim requires extraordinary proof - whereas you don't even have a bit of proof for the existence of a creator or god, and there have been so many similar claims throughout history - so obviously at the very least all but one are wrong :-)
And that's not even bringing up the question "who created god?" People who believe in god have no answer, whereas atheists have an answer - "People did."
There is no such thing as a soul, just as there is no god. Both of these beliefs posit something supra-natural, but they are only beliefs, with zero proof, despite. Both have their roots in wishful thinking that, by having "faith", we can deny that when you're dead, you're dead.
The lack of a "soul" has been used as an excuse to enslave people as "just animals." It's been used to justify cruel animal husbandry - they don't "really" suffer.
Fortunately atheism is the fastest growing religious belief, and will be the majority even in the US within 15-20 years. We no longer see things through a glass, darkly :-) Maybe then it won't continue to distort politics and be used as a reason to deny some people who are different the same rights others enjoy.
In other words, you'll become more like Canada, where bringing religion into politics is a good way to consign your political career to the trash heap.
Don't be lazy - there's google for that. But, one example that comes to mind - scientology, the fake religion founded by L. Ron Hubbard. Surely you've heard of it.
He said he wasn't ready to go independent. If he had made an agreement with the employer before taking the job, that would be one thing - he didn't, he is aware that the employer owns the work for hire, and the employer should immediately kick him to the curb and get an injunction just in case he's walked code out the door.
If I were one of his co-workers, I would fully support firing him, because he's putting my job at risk. Screw him.
The employer is the customer. It is the customer who creates jobs. That is what I said originally. That the customer is the employer doesn't matter one whit, so don't be a twit.
Her new employer had agreed to let her stay at her old job for a while as a condition of her employment. Then when she complained about the tracking, the employer engaged in tortious interference of contract.
Whatever happened to "extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof"? There is no reason to believe in the existence of any god, so until there is proof otherwise, forget it. That's not being close-minded, it's being rational. Also, we ARE human animals. Sentience isn't limited to just humans, either. First definition of sentience when I googled for it:
Sentience is the ability to feel, perceive, or experience subjectively. Eighteenth-century philosophers used the concept to distinguish the ability to think (reason) from the ability to feel (sentience).
Animals are capable of both reasoning (solving puzzles, etc) and feelings. Not only that, they are also capable of picking up on the feelings of other species - ask any dog owner if their dog knows when they're depressed or frightened, or if they can tell when their dog is happy.
Changing the labels to "employer" and "employee" is no different from bogus patents that throw in "on the Internet."
There is no mention anywhere that any lawyer signed off on this. And from the complaint filed with the court, it's pretty obvious that it's illegal.