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World's Rudest Robot Set To Simulate the Fury of Call Center Customers

An anonymous reader writes: A New Zealand-based company called Touchpoint Group has unveiled the world's angriest robot, which is designed to help train call center employees in the art of dealing with frustrated customers. The project, named Radiant, will involve one of Australia's biggest banks, which is providing researchers with recordings of real-life interactions with customers. Once finished Radiant will simulate hundreds of millions of angry customer interactions, helping companies better understand what triggers heated calls.

150 comments

  1. Oh! by fustakrakich · · Score: 3, Funny

    I definitely want to set that thing loose on Slashdot!

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    1. Re:Oh! by sinij · · Score: 4, Funny

      I read at -1, and I can personally assure you, that thing is a frequent AC poster here.

    2. Re:Oh! by LifesABeach · · Score: 0

      What's interesting is that this robot is 3 laws safe. LOL

    3. Re:Oh! by stephanruby · · Score: 4, Funny

      Me, I'm waiting for the consumer edition.

      It's only fair that we use our own robots, to get through their robots, and to speak to their customer service representatives (who may not be robots themselves, but who may act like robots anyway).

      "Please cancel my Comcast subscription.", "By the way, I'm recording this phone conversation for proof that I've actually cancelled my Comcast subscription. So let me ask again, please cancel my Comcast subscription.", "I don't care about any of that, please cancel my comcast subscription. ", "What was your name and employee number again? Thank you 'John, I can't give you my last name because of company policy'. Despite the fact that I've given you my social security number, my address, my birthdate, the maiden name of my mother. Once again, please cancel my comcast subscription. ", "No, I don't want to be transferred to your retention specialist. Hello, hello..."

      Busy signal...

      "Is anyone there? Fuck all of you!! I just want to cancel my Comcast subscription!!"

      Busy signal...

      "I'm just a robot. I can do this all day. Please cancel my Comcast subscription!!"

      Click. The Comcast system has just hung up the phone.

      My robot redialing...

      Busy signal...

      My robot redialing...

      Busy signal...

    4. Re:Oh! by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      Cortana would be ideal for that if only it can be made to do sequential steps. Currently it's one instruction only.
      "Cortana, phone xxx call centre, authenticate me and let me know when you hear "How can I help you today?"

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    5. Re:Oh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're good at this game. I'm more than my share of -1 posts and I think you could find my voice in that collection of audio recordings. Troll hard online, troll hard on phone.

    6. Re:Oh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, the consumer edition. So I can forward the telemarketers to it. Solves a lot of problems. . .

    7. Re:Oh! by Samuel+Dravis · · Score: 1

      Empirix's Voice Watch product actually does this thing exactly. Although it's usually used by the company, not the customer.

    8. Re:Oh! by Opportunist · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Why? Telemarketers are fun! I have started my personal little statistics program that checks the habits and living situation of telemarketing agents. The results so far (for the parties interested):

      Average willingness to answer questions:
          Questions before asking why those questions: 3.4
          Questions before refusing to answer any more questions: 5.1
          Questions before getting rude: 6.3
          Questions before hanging up: 6.3+1 (oddly, they reliably hang up exactly one question after becoming abusive).

      Personally, I find it amazing how long they try to return the conversation to their track before noticing that they're being trolled. Interesting also the deviation. Telemarketers either refuse to answer questions altogether or they are really desperate for you to not hang up so they play along hoping for a tit-for-tat.

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    9. Re:Oh! by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      no you don't! have you thought about what a horrible idea that is? of course you haven't, because you need a brain to think!

      and what the fuck is wrong with YELLING, SLASHDOT FILTER!??!!?

  2. Why not just intern at Comcast for a while? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    That will provide them with the angriest and most justified to be angry customers in the world.

    1. Re:Why not just intern at Comcast for a while? by trailerparkcassanova · · Score: 2

      It would be more fun to turn it loose on Comcast. Their call centers would go supernova.

    2. Re:Why not just intern at Comcast for a while? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      It's more likely Comcast is going to look at hiring the rude robot to *replace* their rude, useless call center people.

    3. Re:Why not just intern at Comcast for a while? by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      Or even better, set it loose on the various states' Attorney General's offices, regarding the problems they're having with their Comcast service.

    4. Re:Why not just intern at Comcast for a while? by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Evidently, Comcast is unable to determine why people are angry when they call in. It's as if their call centers don't actually log anything when you call in. Or do much in response to your call.

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  3. good news, everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm 40% anger!

    1. Re:good news, everyone by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      TARS, is that you? What's your humor setting?

  4. Its New Zealand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Whilst mostly super-polite and friendly, grumpy New Zealanders with a chip on their shoulder may even beyond AI.

    1. Re:Its New Zealand by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hehe you got that right!

    2. Re:Its New Zealand by MoaDweeb · · Score: 2

      Thank you for mentioning how polite we are here in the Shaky Isles.

      As my sig shows we are a well-balanced people.

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    3. Re:Its New Zealand by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      I actually met an angry New Zealander once. Mind you he wasn't angry at first. I was giving him a lift to work in the mornings and afternoons. It took about 8 days before he grabbed me on the arm, shook it and yelled "THIS IS WHAT GOD'S PRESENCE IS! IT IS REAL. IT ISN"T IMAGINATION!". He had a lot of patience that guy but he eventually broke.
      The only other one I met of note was my ex-brother in law's wife who had a large head and was mostly teeth. Her lips didn't cover her gum line and you couldn't help but stare. She was never angry but had a really thick accent i.e. 'Fush and Chups' for fish and chips etc.
      New Zealanders are OK. Love their music.

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    4. Re:Its New Zealand by DrVxD · · Score: 1

      New Zealanders are well balanced with a chip on each shoulder. One represents Australia, the other the rest of the world

      So just like Australians then...

      (Disclaimer: NZ is one of my favourite places in the world. Australia... not so much)

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  5. And the answer is... by AnotherBlackHat · · Score: 4, Funny

    What makes the callers angriest? Call center employees who act like robots.

    1. Re:And the answer is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Spending 40 minutes on hold and having to talk to someone who has no power to do anything for you! Bonus points if they tell you to call back during normal business hours!
      Another good one is being transferred around to different departments until someone hangs up on you.

    2. Re:And the answer is... by Megahard · · Score: 4, Interesting

      It would be amusing to hook the angry robot up to one of those online automatic assistants.

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    3. Re:And the answer is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Or call center employees who obviously have no ability to fix a situation, assuming they even understand the problems in the first place. Call centers exist purely to run interference for the people in charge.

    4. Re:And the answer is... by H0p313ss · · Score: 5, Funny

      It would be amusing to hook the angry robot up to one of those online automatic assistants.

      You want Skynet? Because that's how you get Skynet!

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    5. Re:And the answer is... by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      A funny mash-up reply... and I'm out of mod points today.

      Mod parent funny!

    6. Re:And the answer is... by Shompol · · Score: 1

      ...being told to call around to different departments until you end up with the person you spoke to originally

    7. Re:And the answer is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or when their ph system automatically hangs up on you after 11mins and 59 secs because there's been no input from your end.

    8. Re:And the answer is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be amusing to hook the angry robot up to one of those online automatic assistants.

      I'd like to imagine this is how Bender was conceived.
      Only with more booze, blackjack and hookers.

    9. Re:And the answer is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Really, we do that to ourselves at wanting them to always give the same information that interprets consistently and correctly regardless of who we talk to. Human, Consistent, Accurate: pick any two.

    10. Re:And the answer is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It would be amusing to hook the angry robot up to one of those online automatic assassins.

      fixed that for you.

    11. Re:And the answer is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What makes call center employees act like robots? Call center clients who give us ineffective reaching instructions and inflexible scripts. When an agents tries to do the right thing, then either sales or customer service will get rude, all-caps emails and calls at all hours of the night threatening to go off service. Or perhaps the agent will get ahold of somebody who can do something only to be subjected to an obscene torrent of insults.

      When I used to be on the call floor, I received multiple death threats from clients, one from a doctor's wife even.

      Once when a meat packing plant had one of its mission-critical systems go down, I spent about two hours reaching the software vendor (my employer's client) for support. After about an hour after the system went down, the execs at the meat packing plant called in and proceeded to verbally abuse me, preventing me from continuing to reach their vendor to get their issue solved. When I finally reached one of the execs at the vendor, I was again verbally abused and told that I wouldn't need to worry about coming into work the next day because I was fired. (Of course, I wasn't.)

      Because of these issues, the call center industry has an ungodly turnover rate and many call center workers become addicted to cigarettes.

      Hope that helps. Maybe angrybot here will just emphasize to folks unfortunate enough to join call centers that the job is thankless, worthless, and amounts to being verbally assaulted by both callers and clients on a daily basis and send the turnover rate through the roof!

    12. Re:And the answer is... by radtea · · Score: 3, Insightful

      What makes the callers angriest? Call center employees who act like robots.

      Also, hearing "We are receiving higher than usual call volume..." every single time you call anywhere for any reason. Nothing says "We are lying incompetents" more clearly.

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    13. Re:And the answer is... by Kaptain+Kruton · · Score: 1

      That would be like the end of War Games. The only winning move is not to play.

    14. Re:And the answer is... by StikyPad · · Score: 1

      Just hook it up to itself, like a digital centipede.

  6. Impressive... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It sounds like somebody is justifying have their head in the sand by commissioning a fancy study on mineralogy.

    People fucking hate call centers because they have to traverse some hellish phone tree, wait too long to talk to a representative who is generally underinformed and insufficiently empowered to actually do anything about the problem. In some cases the rep is even required by company policy to be actively unhelpful, attempt upsells, and the like. Plus, of course, nobody calls phone support when things are working properly, so you start out with a somewhat skewed sample of people who are having issues of one kind or another; not so much happy people just looking to transact.

    What do they want? The magic fancy AI to tell them how to keep customers from being pissed off because of bad service without actually making service better? The one weird trick to making someone feel calm about being told that the problem cannot be fixed? A deeper understanding of why listening to hold music and inane recordings about how much we care about your call for half an hour is obnoxious?

    1. Re:Impressive... by Shadow+of+Eternity · · Score: 2

      The fact the corporate brass are so not getting the issue that they commissioned this project is, itself, a symptom of exactly the problem they want to study. This is some meta level stupid.

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    2. Re:Impressive... by mjwx · · Score: 2

      People fucking hate call centers because they have to traverse some hellish phone tree, wait too long to talk to a representative who is generally underinformed and insufficiently empowered to actually do anything about the problem.

      This...

      But people are half of the problem. They want champagne service at beer prices.

      My car insurance is with RAC here in Western Australia. They aren't the cheapest but they have a local call centre that operates on Western Australian time, well trained staff and I've never spent more than 10 minutes on hold. Sure some cut price insurer might be $10-20 a month cheaper, but I know RAC wont give me the run-around during a claim as their policy is to pay out even under suspect circumstances (and if they think its suspect, they'll refuse to insure you again).

      Also RAC were the only mainstream Australian insurer to give me an online quote for my Australian delivered Nissan 200sx (S15). There are companies that provide good service, but they aren't the cheapest and unfortunately, a lot of people only think about the bottom line when choosing an ISP, Insurer, bank and the like.

      Lets compare this to a certain large global bank... You get on the phone and have to enter a 117 digit customer number, then a 6 digit passcode that I use maybe twice a year that I never remember. Beyond this when I talk to a person, for verification purposes I have to tell them my mothers maiden name, place of birth, how my ancestors were related to king Richard III, so and so forth. At least with my bank their call centre is in the Philippines where they have a good grasp of English (even if it's En_US, its still somewhat English) and an understandable accent. That being said, knowing what it's like receiving abuse over the phone I'm never rude or abusive to call centre staff.

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    3. Re:Impressive... by Dutch+Gun · · Score: 2

      How to avoid the tech support script runaround? The code word is "Shibboleet."

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    4. Re:Impressive... by ClickOnThis · · Score: 1

      Just be sure you pronounce it correctly.

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    5. Re:Impressive... by ShanghaiBill · · Score: 2

      The fact the corporate brass are so not getting the issue that they commissioned this project is, itself, a symptom of exactly the problem they want to study.

      You are making the unwarranted assumption that it is cheaper to provide good service than to provide bad service and train employees to deal with the blowback. I see no reason to believe that is true. Sure, for some businesses, providing good service pays off, but there are certain industries, including cellphone service, cable service, and health insurance, where all of the companies use the "crappy service" model. I don't think that would happen if that strategy didn't maximize profits.

    6. Re:Impressive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Having had to do the externalization of a call center some years ago I can tell that most of the problems are due to the externalization and their management.

      I even made a script that was changed in less than a month because each call take to much time, actually the new script was far worse but made their metrics look better, a analysis at my company showed that their script had lower call times but the total minuter per incidence where more because most of the incidences needed more calls and with our script the time needed to redirect the call to a more appropriate support level was lower. Actually the result of the analysis made a serious problem for the people responsible of the externalization, put simply, the investors didn't like the result as in numerical values is that the external call center needed around 30% more time and 10% more money to do the same as when we had our call center, today we mix a internal call center for working hours and external one for the rest of hours ( ironically this reduced 20% the money needed for the help line ).

    7. Re:Impressive... by DigiShaman · · Score: 1

      You know damn well what the reason is! Your questions are rhetorical. For those that aren't aware, this is further training and conditioning of the customer base to justify the cheap call center labor in India. Because, smart people are expensive to employ.

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    8. Re:Impressive... by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      I generally just drop shitty companies. It's worked great for me so far. I am fortunate that my internet provider is actually very good. A little pricey but I'll take that over cheap and shitty. If they sucked I'd have a hard time replacing them. Everyone else though is very expendable.

    9. Re:Impressive... by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      I generally just drop shitty companies. It's worked great for me so far.

      If you throw them instead you won't get shit on your shoes and the floor

    10. Re:Impressive... by amiga3D · · Score: 1

      Excellent point.

    11. Re:Impressive... by Whiteox · · Score: 1

      A deeper understanding of why listening to hold music and inane recordings

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?...

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    12. Re:Impressive... by N1AK · · Score: 3, Insightful

      As crap as call centre customer service so often is, it doesn't make this a waste of money. Even if the company was perfect and never did anything wrong, they would from time to time receive calls from customers who are angry/touchy/rude, and giving staff good training in how to keep those interactions relatively positive is useful.

    13. Re:Impressive... by ausekilis · · Score: 2

      I'll share an anecdote with my story from Microsoft.

      Way back in 2007 I bought a Microsoft bluetooth keyboard and mouse to replace my Logitech that kept dropping connection and "sticky key"ing (connection drop, last key hit was repeated until I could reconnect). For some reason, the driver install would complete, but it wouldn't actually pick up the keyboard and mouse. Then I read it needed Windows installer 3.0 (I think?), but I had 2.something. Uninstall/reinstall a few times, nothing. So I call tech support and get an Indian listreader. Nice enough guy, but stuck to his script, and I uninstall/reinstall/reboot a few times. Then he asked a couple pointed questions and said he'd arrange to have an OS guy talk to me 'tomorrow', so we set up a time.

      Tomorrow hit, I did get a call from the same guy, and he patched in one of the MS OS guys. The OS guy sounded like he was from the West coast. He runs me through a couple things, gets me to boot into restore mode and gives me this arcane command line to try to force remove or update of the Windows installer. No such luck. He then tells me "you know what I'm about to tell you, don't you?" "Yup, reinstall and patch up the OS" "Do you have a backup?" "All my files are on another partition" "I do that to!!". Turns out you need Windows installer to add, remove, or update windows installer. And if windows installer goes tango uniform, you're S.O.L. and J.W.F.

      So yea, at least in this story they start with the lowest common denominator, but they were able to get the right level soon enough.

    14. Re:Impressive... by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      At least link to something that is at least a little bit closer to reality. The term has since way outpaced that use and it's quite interesting how it's become a way for various communities to check whether someone is "one of us".

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    15. Re:Impressive... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's great when you have a choice. Unfortunately for health care I have no choice at all since there is only one company that provides coverage my area. Add to that the the government now mandates that I pay this company for their poor service and there is no chance they are going to ever care about providing good customer service.

    16. Re:Impressive... by Neil+Boekend · · Score: 1

      Logitech is a decent company. You don't get that level of support everywhere.
      And Windows installer going TU is going to be difficult to fix in any case. It doesn't happen often and reinstalling Windows seems like a good solution to fix a part of the Windows OS. Since it doesn't happen often I can't imagine there being a decent business case for making a separate windows installer installer beyond re-installing the OS. There will always be edge cases.
      Now for why Windows STILL does not make separate data and OS partitions by default is beyond me. On occasion you need to re-install the OS. It's not what you want but it happens. Thus the default should be that re-installing the OS does not clean out the family pictures. Even though these should be on multiple backups.

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    17. Re:Impressive... by Phreakiture · · Score: 1

      Cheap and good can be done together. I am in upstate New York and my car is insured with GEICO. I switched to them for the reason they typically advertise: it's cheaper. The delightful surprise is that their customer service people are super-polite, sufficiently trained, sufficiently empowered, and on the two occasions when I have filed a claim with them, they have been fast about getting things back in order.

      On a side-note, I've been to the Philippines. I think their English is more EN_ca than EN_us. I'm sure that's a lot like arguing EN_au vs. EN_nz, but there are some little bitty details that stick out if you are a native speaker of either. I've heard a lot of both, having lived in a border town.

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  7. Heated calls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    "helping companies better understand what triggers heated calls"

    helping companies better understand what triggers heated calls?

    ARE THEY MORONS?!?

    1. Re:Heated Calls? by BarbaraHudson · · Score: 2

      I thought it was obvious what generated heated calls. Companies could just listen to their customers and then they would know.

      Listen to our customers? What a radical idea - you're fired!

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    2. Re: Heated Calls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If company execs were required to use their own support services, quality would go up fast. Including the quality of the hold music.

      Sort of like how things would change if members of congress weren't exempt from their own laws. Oh wait, that's just crazy talk, sorry.

  8. Heated Calls? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I thought it was obvious what generated heated calls. Companies could just listen to their customers and then they would know.

  9. Sweet by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It better have a Les Grossman mode.

  10. never be the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I seriously doubt that a machine can ever match the vehemence of a live person.

    I mean to say that you'll have a machine following a script shouting at a live person also following a script. No one will really get creative.

    The real challenge is to get these callers so upset that they hang up on you because that's the one thing that their script does not allow.

    1. Re:never be the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt it's that difficult. Live people aren't that creative either. Just seed it with Gunnery Sergeant Hartmann, make sure to include a few one-liners insulting the agent's upbringing, mother, literacy, sexuality, and education, and you're golden. Oh and don't forget this classic, "Don't you know who I am?!" (And oh, almost forgetting, "I'll have you fired!" and variations i.e. "I'll make sure you never get another job again!" or "You'll do $thing_the_agent_cant_do right now or I will make sure you die homeless!")

      Based on my experience in call center, I'm suspecting doctors may already have a production version of this AI or else there's a class one needs to take to get an MD that teaches you how. Compared to MDs, a lot of lawyers are decent, patient professionals.

    2. Re:never be the same by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh, oh, I'm almost forgetting the icing on the cake!

      After angrybot gets done with the agent and we have a recording showing the agent being the most polite angel you can imagine, have the angrybot call back in and complain about how rude the agent was with him!

      Woah. Captcha: icings

  11. Lies by Tiggywinkle · · Score: 1
    "helping companies better understand what triggers heated calls."

    Bollocks, it'll be used to better understand how to pacify and palm off heated calls.

    1. Re:Lies by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      do you want to know the secret the system dont want you to know, it is top secret so dont tell anyone, it is illegal to use a legal name, that is the secret the system dont want you to know and now you know why you are getting raped by the system, google legal name fraud to learn more

  12. Incompetent staff with no authority. by Ami+Ganguli · · Score: 4, Insightful

    That's not hard to answer. Nobody wants to spend hours on the phone with somebody who:

    • Can't say anything that isn't on their script.
    • Has no authority to fix the problem even if they could understand it.

    Modern call centres appear to be designed specifically to infuriate people by politely wasting their time without solving any problems.

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    1. Re:Incompetent staff with no authority. by erice · · Score: 2

      That's not hard to answer. Nobody wants to spend hours on the phone with somebody who:


      •  
      • Can't say anything that isn't on their script.
      • Has no authority to fix the problem even if they could understand it.

      Modern call centres appear to be designed specifically to infuriate people by politely wasting their time without solving any problems.

      No. No. No. The purpose of the modern call center is to "solve" customer problems in the most cost efficient manner. If the customer goes away and keeps paying without the company needing to spend resources to fix something, that is a good result. It gets even better if this can be accomplished while paying the customer service rep as little as possible.

      It is, of course, a delicate balancing act. Go too cheap and you lose customers. Spend too much and it cuts into the bottom line. The robot training is an attempt to get more successful outcomes (continued customer revenue) without the excessive cost of actually solving problems. Keeping customers "happy" while you screw them is key.

    2. Re:Incompetent staff with no authority. by ArcadeMan · · Score: 4, Funny

      Keeping customers "happy" while you screw them is key.

      It's worked so far for the world's oldest profession...

    3. Re:Incompetent staff with no authority. by FranTaylor · · Score: 2

      The purpose of the modern call center is to "solve" customer problems in the most cost efficient manner.

      Nope the purpose of the modern call center is to enhance the resume of the manager who runs it. The modern call center is just about always associated with a monopolistic venture with captive customers, so their happiness of the customers and the number of complaints in the queue are simply irrelevant numbers ignored by everyone.

    4. Re:Incompetent staff with no authority. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Modern call centres appear to be designed specifically to infuriate people by politely wasting their time without solving any problems.

      Funny you should mention that. At first, I read the headline as "stimulate" instead of "simulate," which would only be an incremental upgrade of their existing systems.

    5. Re: Incompetent staff with no authority. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      There is one place that modern call centers are useful, and that's to fix the stupid problems in the product that you can't fix yourself. "It says your transaction can't be processed?" Clicking of keys. "There, I have taken care of it." Ie, it's cheaper to solve those problems with a call center than to make a good product to start with.

    6. Re:Incompetent staff with no authority. by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Well, but only because getting screwed is what the customer wants. The current call center is only a success for customers with a serious masochistic tendency. And for that it's fairly badly marketed because not only is that market rather small but also usually willing to pay way more for the abuse.

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  13. they should have asked ebay by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    twenty automated levels before you can speak to a person , hit the wrong option oops have to redial and start again. Then you to valdiate with a person before they will transfer you through to the appeals dept. Where you have to validate again. After 25 attempts the appeals department wont tell you how you appeal .

    All for an item the that never arrived because the courrier company delievered it to the wrong house number , wrong street , wrong postcode - but as it was signed for according to ebay it was successfully delivered.

    1. Re:they should have asked ebay by sexconker · · Score: 2

      twenty automated levels before you can speak to a person , hit the wrong option oops have to redial and start again. Then you to valdiate with a person before they will transfer you through to the appeals dept. Where you have to validate again. After 25 attempts the appeals department wont tell you how you appeal .

      All for an item the that never arrived because the courrier company delievered it to the wrong house number , wrong street , wrong postcode - but as it was signed for according to ebay it was successfully delivered.

      Which is why you pay with a credit card and issue a chargeback at the first sign of bullshit.

    2. Re:they should have asked ebay by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      ...only to be blacklisted by EBay for such an action and excluded from using them again.

      "But you're able to charge back" is a nice slogan, but know that doing so usually means that company you charged back from won't do business with you again.

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      We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
    3. Re:they should have asked ebay by neminem · · Score: 1

      Would you really want to do business with the company again at that point, anyway?

    4. Re:they should have asked ebay by sexconker · · Score: 1

      As a buyer, eBay accounts are throwaway.
      For things like Steam, where one chargeback could nuke / limit your whole account and the operators ignore all of your rights because "LOL VIDEOGAMES", create individual accounts for individual titles you're unsure about. Alternatively, don't buy from stores with shitty fucking policies.

  14. Fuck this robot, stealing my job! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    I'd do it for HALF the fucking money and with TWICE the rudeness, but do these boffins fucking even ask? IDIOTS.

    1. Re:Fuck this robot, stealing my job! by FranTaylor · · Score: 0

      i prefer money that isn't fucking, you don't have to wipe it off

    2. Re:Fuck this robot, stealing my job! by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      Be abusive and being paid for it? Did Simon Cowell quit and they're now auditioning for his replacement?

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  15. Why even have a call center? by Greyfox · · Score: 1

    Every call center I've ever encountered is designed to ask you if you power cycled your thing and then call back if that doesn't work. If you call back, the person you speak to will ask if you power cycled your thing. You really have to put up a fight to talk to someone who can actually help you, assuming that such a thing even exists at that call center, and most people give up long before they reach that point. Most of the time you can find an answer with a bit of googling anyway.It seems like to pointless waste of money to have a call center that everyone is just going to hate and which will give everyone who calls into it a negative impression of your company.

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    1. Re:Why even have a call center? by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      Every call center I've ever encountered is designed to ask you if you power cycled your thing

      Yeah, I got that when I called the bakery about the missing raisins in my raisin bread. They asked me to power cycle the loaf and cut another slice.

    2. Re:Why even have a call center? by ArcadeMan · · Score: 1

      Every call center I've ever encountered is designed to ask you if you power cycled your thing

      http://www.thefedoranerd.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/12/Hello-IT-Have.jpg

  16. Do they need a robot to understand this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    We get frustrated for the following reasons:

    1) Call centers all too often make it difficult to talk to a person.
    2) Long waits before our call is picked up.
    3) Clueless staff.
    4) Staff who insist in sticking to (potentially) long and tedious protocols, despite the fact that you tell them that you have just done so.
    5) Staff who give you misleading, or even outright false, answers.
    6) Staff who take advantage of the call to try and sell you as many services as possible, despite the fact that you tell them, over and over again, that you are not interested.

    There, that was easy. Forget about your stupid robots; just fix those six items.

    1. Re:Do they need a robot to understand this? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We get frustrated for the following reasons:

      1) Call centers all too often make it difficult to talk to a person.
      2) Long waits before our call is picked up.
      3) Clueless staff.
      4) Staff who insist in sticking to (potentially) long and tedious protocols, despite the fact that you tell them that you have just done so.
      5) Staff who give you misleading, or even outright false, answers.
      6) Staff who take advantage of the call to try and sell you as many services as possible, despite the fact that you tell them, over and over again, that you are not interested.

      There, that was easy. Forget about your stupid robots; just fix those six items.

      I do outbound calls at a call center, so i know nothing about 1 or 2
      3) most of the people working there know nothing about the subject, and are there just to make the poor amount of money
      4) if they want to keep working, they will stick to the protocols
      5) see 3
      6) you HAVE to pitch all products when possible, see 4

    2. Re:Do they need a robot to understand this? by Opportunist · · Score: 1

      We're not angry at the CCAs. You're just the poor grunt that gets to take the bullet, we're actually angry at the idiots that make you do it. Sadly, we can't get through to them. So sadly, you get to get burned.

      Believe me if we tell you that if we could skin one of your mangers alive, we would gladly do so. Their only reason for survival is that killing them isn't worth one nanosecond of jail time.

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  17. If this robot gains self awareness, we are doomed! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If this robot gains self awareness, we are all doomed.

  18. So, let me get this straight. by 140Mandak262Jamuna · · Score: 1
    They are not planning to do anything to reduce frustration of customers. They will train more low wage workers to bear the brunt of frustration. They will spend all this money to desensitize them to verbal abuse and angry calls. But they would not think, "mmm, our customers are frustrated. Let us find out why and make them happy".

    Sooner or later these phone line workers are going to initiate a class action law suit for permanently damaging their emotional selves and making them insensitive to anger they have cause to their relatives outside. Such a law suit might not have any merit, but it is the fear of the law suit alone that reigns in the corporations, for now. Once they complete their purchase of all the three branches of the government, they would have nothing to fear.

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    1. Re:So, let me get this straight. by Livius · · Score: 1

      They will train more low wage workers

      My guess would be *replace* low wage workers once the robot is sufficiently obnoxious.

  19. Ug, this sucks by rsilvergun · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I saw this coming in the mid 2000s. Companies realized it was more cost effective (read:cheaper) to have happy sounding customer service than a good product and knowledgeable staff. For people wondering why they don't just create an environment and products that don't make people angry in the first place it's because that costs money. Lots of it. So you dump the job of cleaning the mess left by management's lousy decisions onto some poor bastard in Bangladesh or some barely literate goof in Alabama. The sad thing is it works. People remember how the interaction felt more than it's content... For anyone who isn't an overly emotional idiot it's incredibly frustrating; and all the robots in the world don't help that.

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  20. Why bother? by wb8nbs · · Score: 2

    They could have just called my wife.

    1. Re:Why bother? by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      what should they call your wife?

    2. Re:Why bother? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Hedorah

  21. Bender? by LessThanObvious · · Score: 2

    Bender, is that you?

    1. Re:Bender? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      They're talking about me: Bender.

    2. Re:Bender? by Krishnoid · · Score: 1

      Nah man, it's me, Roberto. You remember me, don't you man? I know where you live!

  22. I didn't know it was possible to have an empty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0


  23. Apple has this down... by fullback · · Score: 3, Insightful

    The "Genius Bar" (is that still around?) never gave anyone answers. They just gave you tons of dripping empathy, but no help.

    "Yes, I can understand completely how frustrated you must feel; however, Apple doesn't feel that your computer not working is a serious enough issue for us to warrant talking to anyone else in the company who cares or will listen. Thank you and have a wonderful day. Would you like to buy this other shiny piece of matching crap over here that doesn't work either?"

    1. Re:Apple has this down... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The "Genius Bar" (is that still around?) never gave anyone answers. They just gave you tons of dripping empathy, but no help.

      Come on modders, what's with the Flamebait? Yes, they're still around. And yes, they're still as useless as tits on a bull.

      When I got an iPhone 6+ nobody there could get 4G data working on it... After days of Googling and trying various things (both from Apple and third parties) I eventually bought a USD45.00 third party program to hack specific files in my iPhone backups which allowed me to remove a dodgy Carrier Profile that had been lurking there since my iPhone 3GS back in the iOS 3-4 days.

  24. Which bank? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Gotta be Westpac. And they wouldn't need 'angry customer' training if they didn't treat their customers like dicks with open wallets.

  25. Perfect fit by AchilleTalon · · Score: 1

    Exactly what I was seeking for to answer telemarketers.

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  26. Why not use Comcast's excess customer calls? by ZipK · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Since Comcast can't seem to service their customer service lines in a timely, intelligent or helpful manner, and nearly all of the callers end up angry, why not just use the excess calls for training? It's not like these callers will be any more frustrated by operators who know nothing about Comcast than they are by actual Comcast customer service agents.

    1. Re:Why not use Comcast's excess customer calls? by Tablizer · · Score: 1

      Comcast-A-Tron

    2. Re:Why not use Comcast's excess customer calls? by edtice1559 · · Score: 1

      My guess is that the turnover in these places is so high that the trainees aren't much behind the regulars. I've never called Comcast.

  27. Turing test by jfdavis668 · · Score: 1

    Does it pass the Turing test?

    1. Re:Turing test by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That was my first question. How can it do a good job at being rude unless it can act like a real human--even a rude one. They just blew past any talk about this intelligence thing.

      If all they wanted was mindless rudeness, they could make do with the recorded voice of someone ranting. That's not nearly as effective, though, as someone who can react to the call-center drone.

    2. Re:Turing test by PPH · · Score: 2

      Almost. It was doing fine until it told the service rep to kiss its shiny metal ass.

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    3. Re:Turing test by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      can the service rep pass or administer the turing test?

      I bet according to the script he can't do either.

      which is why the callers are frustrated.

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  28. The reason.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "My device died two days after my warranty"
    "My plan was canceled due to some error"
    "Why am I being charged 3 times for this?"
    "I lost or broke a tiny, fragile, important piece"

    Even if many of the calls aren't related to products or services...
    businesses are taking advantages of their customers, unilaterally.
    Subconsciously, they will be angry.

  29. Re: by stephanruby · · Score: 1

    I sure hope I'm getting residuals for this. I'm pretty sure my voice is on these recordings.

  30. Source code to robot by Krishnoid · · Score: 2

    helping companies better understand what triggers heated calls.


    #include <stdio.h>
    main()
    {
    say("Your service fails intermittently.");
    say("Your service costs too much relative to similar services in other developed nations.");
    say("You don't test your services thoroughly before and while providing them to us.");
    say("You don't staff your call centers adequately.");
    say("When presented with reasonable customer complaints, your call center employees aren't empowered to alter policy appropriately.");
    say("Your corporate governance is ethically lacking.");
    }

  31. Virtual reality training. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They want to be able to train CSR's on what not to do with more realistic settings.

    You can listen to a tape of CSR being chewed out and talk about what not to do, or you could let the CSR talk with the robot, and then have a discussion with the CSR about where his individual script went off the rails and needs improvement.

    You can let the CSR's learn how to deal with terrible customers in the actual environment they'll be doing it, without having them anger actual customers.

  32. Knowledge is power, except this useless BS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

         

  33. why? by BradMajors · · Score: 1

    Why do we want to train customer service representatives to be angry and rude? Can't they learn how to do that on the job?

    1. Re:why? by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      where do you find these special human beings who are not angry and rude to begin with?

  34. Hiring climate by Livius · · Score: 1

    The funny thing is, with unemployment so high, and call centre work not being intrinsically difficult, companies can hire motivated, people-oriented workers with excellent listening and problem-solving skills and super-friendly personalities. So they do. But the job turns them into the call centre workers we talk to when we call.

    That says a lot about the employer.

    1. Re:Hiring climate by DigiShaman · · Score: 2

      Worse. The latest *hotness* is all about community support and open forums. Have a problem with a product or service?? Go online or talk to your co-workers and neighbors. Got a billing question? E-mail us and maybe it won't get lost in our junk/spam folder.

      Phone line? Yeah, business will soon be cutting that cord real quick. It's nothing but a cost center.

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  35. misses the point by just+another+AC · · Score: 1

    "... helping companies better understand what triggers heated calls."

    No it doesn't. A robot pre-programmed for being angry can only help companies understand the best ways to endure / pacify angry callers.

    Yay for treating the symptoms of bad customer service without even attempting to touch the cause.

  36. enter, Judge Judy by careysb · · Score: 2

    ... and hook it up with the Judge Judy sound board.
    http://www.ebaumsworld.com/sou...

    1. Re:enter, Judge Judy by eedwardsjr · · Score: 1

      or the Full Metal Jacket one.

  37. No Shit by davesays · · Score: 1

    They would have to understand why customers were angry to begin with, in order to build a decent simulator. To understand "what triggers heated calls all you have to do is care and listen your customers.

    1. Re:No Shit by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

      why customers were angry to begin with

      unless you've been living under a rock or in a cave, you've undoubtedly made some sort of financial transaction where you felt like you got ripped off. how did that feel to you? so are you a special different kind of human or maybe perhaps you might be able to comprehend that these people feel like you did. do you need a manual or a book to explain the human experience?

  38. That will set them straight. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Threaten to forward the call to Comcast customer retention.

  39. Zingbot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Move over Big Brother's Zingbot.

  40. a soothing balm for the drones by FranTaylor · · Score: 1

    these call centers are fronting for operations that could care less about whether their customers are angry or happy. just about every big operation these days is a monopoly, and the customers are going nowhere. they don't need to solve customer problems or soothe the raging callers. the only real motivation is to talk the customer out of more money.

  41. A better use for angriest robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Comcast should buy this angriest robot to answer calls from customers. The angriest robot would still be much better than talking to a Comcast person.

  42. You don't need a robot by kuzb · · Score: 2

    Seriously, people get pissed when you:

    1) don't get what they paid for

    2) get lied to

    3) have to put up with clueless cue-card-reading tech support

    4) have to wait inordinately long periods of time to talk to someone

    Want happier customers? Don't fuck them around. If mistakes are made, own up to it and make it right. Above all, train your staff well so they actually understand what they're supporting.

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    1. Re:You don't need a robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You're boring me.
      Anybody have any actual ideas?
      What's that? We can build a robot to train our flesh robots?
      Tell me more about these "flesh robots"....

    2. Re:You don't need a robot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Don't fuck them around. If mistakes are made, own up to it and make it right.

      Yes, but it's easier to twist things around and make it look like a small typo on the call center's part caused a multi-thousand dollar mess. I work in an outsourced call center, and I wish I could say being told that one of our agents lost a million dollar lead or caused a technician to cause thousands of dollars in damage and we're going to be sued is an isolated incident. (This is the real reason calls are recorded in addition to the starred items below.)

      Every time it happens, I just want to grab the client and shake them violently. No, the agent was not rude. The agent did everything in the instructions. It took 2 hours instead of 5 minutes to dispatch the call to you because 3 of the 5 cell numbers were wrong numbers and the last time an agent called your cell, you tore her head off and she went home in tears* because you only wanted to be reached if the building was burning down. YOUR POOR SERVICE COST YOU THE MILLION DOLLAR LEAD!

      * No exaggeration here. I have seen, on multiple occasions, agents cussed out so badly by a client (the business purchasing the call center service that doesn't care about their customers, the callers) and made so upset that they have had to leave for the day after breaking down and uncontrollably crying for a half hour. We know how to handle getting cussed out by a caller (and the hilarious report we'll get from the client a few days later that the agent was being rude, not the caller). Being cussed out by a client who's threatening to make sure you'll never work again when you have 3 children to provide for and government assistance that will be terminated if you don't have a job is a harrowing experience.**

      ** In reality, there is no threat to the agent's job. I think once we almost fired a particularly foul-mouthed client (I didn't listen to the recording but I heard there were numerous f-bombs and... er... "colorful metaphors"... we're talking sexual harassment lawsuit-grade material), and other times when it's one of the client's employees, we'll give the call recording to the client who will then discipline the employee and sincerely apologize... or claim the agent was rude and go off service. This is one of those moments that differentiates businesses that really do have a need to outsource to a call center and businesses that are just looking for an actor to blame for their own shit service.

  43. Like talking to a soundboard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    What a waste of money. This robot would need to be programmed based on the company product line or support model to be effective.

    Every support center has different reasons for upset customers. Rather it be dealing with complete rookies that just got thrown on the phones 2 days after being hired, to seasoned staff who don't want to hold your hand through something you could have easily googled yourself. I don't see this being any more helpful that having a training seminar where veteran staff call new hires with their version of an "angry customer." Not only does it more closely mimic a real interaction with the customer base of the company, but it also gives the jaded employees a good laugh.

    1. Re:Like talking to a soundboard... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I'd bet my left arm that there isn't a call center employee out there that could figure their way out of a paper bag without their queue book in front of them

    2. Re:Like talking to a soundboard... by spychicken · · Score: 1

      sounds like you don't value your left arm very much. I'D bet you are the kind of guy that calls support to recover "mysteriously deleted files"...

  44. Bloody obvious! by Anne+Thwacks · · Score: 2
    what triggers heated calls.

    Dealing with banks is what triggers heated calls. I should have thought any adult who has ever had to deal with an bank knows that. I have had more intelligent conversations with parrots than with banks.

    OK, I live in the UK, but banks are banks.

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  45. Oblig comic reference by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oblig comic reference:

    http://freefall.purrsia.com/ff2100/fc02064.htm

    Edge is easily the rudest robot I've ever come across.

  46. Old idea by Drethon · · Score: 1

    http://ars.userfriendly.org/ca...

    The white box is a, rather sarcastic, AI inside an SGI O2 computer box.

  47. Waste of time and money. by Charcharodon · · Score: 1

    One of the few things there is no shortage of, irate customers. Have them go work for BT in the UK or any cable company in the US for a week, and they'll learn everything there possibly is to know about dealing with slews of pissed off people.

    1. Re:Waste of time and money. by vandamme · · Score: 1

      They've already called me up twice today. Obviously it was just for practice because I already told them I'm not buying any of their shit. And I work for free training these assholes how to deal with cold calls.

      Usually I keep them on the line long enough to waste their time, or go to the loo and at least squeeze out a #1 (bonus points for a #2) while I hold the phone near enough to hear it.

  48. Re:If this robot gains self awareness, we are doom by Opportunist · · Score: 1

    He'd just take over management and no measurable difference could be noticed.

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  49. "Once finished Radiant will simulate hundreds of by friesofdoom · · Score: 1

    millions of angry customer interactions, helping companies better understand what triggers heated calls."

    I'll help you cut to the case, it's shitty service and shitty call center reps with no power to do anything helpful. Until you fix that, you're gonna have pissed off customers.

  50. Hey! by pem · · Score: 2

    You said my call could be recorded for quality control or training purposes, but you never gave me an opt-out. Selling it to an outside vendor to use this way is a clear copyright violation, and I'm going to call back to complain!

  51. Isn't it bank BS that causes anger? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    How's a robot going to simulate the douchebaggery of the bankers? it's not the CSR that's the problem, but the bastards and policies.

  52. ai by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Artificial belligerence?

  53. could sell it as a service if it were cloud-based by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If you make it cloud-based software, you could sell it as a service...

    What could go wrong?

  54. Comcast by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So I should sign up with Comcast?

    1. Re:Comcast by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

      Or Verizon...they quote 115$ for services and then charge 180$ claiming that their quote was wrong "due to a computer glitch". Such customer abuse is much better than any emotionally unstable robot to generate irate calls. Needless to say, Verizon needed three days to understand their own billing and after that still could not make sense of it. Luckily for them, their competition is even worse.

  55. Rude Robot?! Telemarketers here I come! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I want this thing to answer all the calls from telemarketers and collection agents, and to call them back and harass them too!

  56. Angry customers... by MoarSauce123 · · Score: 1

    ....can be avoided by providing great product and service instead of screwing over your customers at any opportunity possible. And call center employees deserve the abuse, they should have stayed in school and got a real job or should have applied to a less craptastic company. What comes around goes around.

  57. Abomination by morgauxo · · Score: 1

    Having previously worked at a helpdesk I can only say one thing..

    they are creating an abomination!