And then there are the idiots who study astrology, theology, etc.
Speaking of history, you'll find that many of histories greatest minds were theologians. You can even still see that influence in modern science.
So what does that "prove?" That the "great minds" of the past were equally subjected to the stupidity and / or pressures of their time - nothing more, nothing less. "It still moves."
It's a slashvertisement submitted by the guy doing the jMonkeyEngine. The focus seems to be on price. "The price of everything and the value of nothing" comes to mind.
If you don't want to go the subscription route, you can download Unit5 5 Personal for free, and then buy the Pro version for a single payment of $1,500.00 once you exceed $100,000 per year of revenue. Future upgrades are half price. Sounds like a very fair offer.
Anyway, I'm downloading Unity to give it a look-see. Just 'cuz.
That "some people" is down to less than 1%. The only way it gets to even 1.34% is because of chromebooks. This is down from a peak of about 2% "way back when" - when everyone, including myself, still believed in the possibility of a "year of the linux desktop."
Many of us have just given up due to distro-hopping fatigue.
Guess I was just more careful - and had a tyrant for a boss. The primary server had to start up 400 threads at start, and never terminate a thread to reclaim lost memory (terminating a thread and restarting it would have too much overhead). The secondary server had the same specs, except only 100 threads. Both servers had to communicate with each other and the outside world, as well as loading a list of modules for each one at startup.
Ran it over a 4-day weekend at 1,000 requests/second on a machine with only half a gig of ram, and when I got back to work, not one byte lost (would have been easy to know because I was running linux and bsd w/o swap. Even 1 byte lost per request would have killed it, or at least killed one or more threads, and there was no provision to restart a dead thread, or a hung one...).
Anything's possible if you don't accept the "received wisdom" that it's "umpossible" to write c/c++ code that doesn't leak memory and you're willing to test, test, test (and try some weird stuff), like a real challenge, and you have a boss who insists that nothing less is acceptable so he gives you the time to "make it so."
What gets me is "why would we even bother automating this?" Because we can? If we automate everything, what are we going to do with our time? Oh, right, surf facebook so they can sell us more crap we don't need.
Well, gotta go vacuum (no roomba, and it wouldn't be able to suck the dust off the shelves and will choke on the dog fur anyway).
But learning programming teaches process thinking, which is an invaluable skill.
No it doesn't. Kids learn that long before they go to school. "If I do x, I will get y." "If I pull the dog's tail too many times, he'll lose his patience with me." "I can get more cookies if I say please." "I can get even MORE cookies if I invite friends over and we get the whole bag." "Holding my breath until I turn blue no longer works - I'll try throwing myself on the floor." "Taking a tantrum no longer works - maybe I'll say please." "If I say 'are we there yet' often enough, they'll stop and buy me an ice cream cone to shut me up." "Baths are better with a rubber duckie." "I guess I shouldn't have helped by emptying my diaper myself." "I guess I shouldn't have helped by painting the cat." "I'm not going to tell them I also painted the dog." "He followed me home" (said while dragging dog behind me on a rope).
Kids learn at a young age to try different strategies to get an optimal (for them) outcome. They learn what processes for getting their way work, and what don't. Sure, you can map it out with a bunch of conditionals, loops, tests, and switch statements, but kids have already internalized the whole thing far better than you can map it out.
Come on - there are people who can't even figure out how to use a simple flip phone. Your estimation of the ability of the average person is demonstrably wrong - look at how many guys can't even figure out how to change to roll of toilet paper.
Uh, oh. Sounds like *someone* only has a single skill and is worried about their future job security!
So, instead of making a counter-argument, you attack my motives? Wow, just wow.
It does not make much difference what a person studies. All knowledge is related, and the man who studies anything, if he keeps at it, will become learned. --Hypatia of Alexandria
He's dead, Jim. But seriously, not all knowledge has equal value to the individual. Every pursuit of knowledge in one domain has a "lost opportunity cost" in that the time and energy could have been devoted to other knowledge or endeavors. And then there are the idiots who study astrology, theology, etc.
As I pointed out, "This whole 'OMG if my kids can't code they'll be disadvantaged for life' stupidity has to be called out for what it is." And that includes those trying to profit from it in various ways - and not just the big boys either.
This is a blatant slashvertisement - that doesn't mean that it's in any way approved by the editors. It means that it's an article that was submitted by the submitter with the express purpose of pimping her new project.
So, submitting it, it's fair bait for getting whacked. Same as all those stupid "Look KICKSTARTER OMG" articles.
They're both binspam. While I usually down-mod them in the firehose, (same as those I want to learn how to code so I can make a zillion bux because my career sux), every once in a while I bump a really bad one up in the hope that it will make it to the front page for the shellacking it deserves.
Psst. She, not he. If the name beaverdownunder wasn't enough, you could have looked at the web site:-)
But yes, absolutely, this was spam to promote Melody Ayers-Griffiths new pixelwitches.com "training" at $97/hour for things like wordpress, drupal, graphic art, music, whatever, and kids "group learning events." Though none of her experience is geared towards that. Being an Apple service tech for a decade doesn't qualify you much for either teaching or programming.
Several steps could be eliminated just by learning that dirty clothes go in the hamper, not on the floor. You leave them on they floor, they're just not going to be washed, same as now. That'll learn y'all:-)
It's Melody Ayres-Griffiths. She's promoting her new (started setting ip up in December) pixelwitches, which will teach you "training in graphic design, music / audio and videography on Macintosh and Windows-based PCs for $97 per hour." And let's not forget drupal and wordpress work.
But from the look of their discorunner site (hint - she used to do music stuff) she needs someone to tell her that the '90s wants their butt-ugly wordpress theme back.
Archive org shows that the original owner of discorunner.com let it expire in the spring of 2014. It was taken over by the new owner on January 15th of this year. The previous site had to do with... wait for it... jogging.
No, you're not staying. Once you hit the magic number (age + perceived obsolescence + cost of benefits + likelihood of having quality of life concerns + salary + perceived inflexibility).GT. availability of new cannon fodder who don't know any better , you're gone whether you like it or not.
Gee, even your quote of my quote proves you to be a liar. You really need to learn how to read!!! What I say:
All it takes is one juror to hang a jury... and IF it ever goes to trial (doubtful) that's a likely scenario.
Two different things. First, I doubt it will ever go to trial. Snowdon is probably just tweaking the government's nose (as I said before). That is the most likely event - say 80% or more. Every other outcome is minor in comparison, including a hung jury, a conviction, or a mistrial. It almost definitely will not go to trial. Now, let's look at the favorable outcomes in the very low probability that it actually goes to trial.
Overall, his chances of winning greatly exceed 10%, since you forgot to add up all the different reasons I've given for him winning. Hung jury - 5-10%. Justification defense - 20-40%. Mistrial - 10-20%. Success on appeal if convicted - who knows, but definitely greater than zero. Overall, that's half decent odds (35-70% or more). But only in the VERY unlikely event that it even gets to trial. Or do you really believe the government wants to try him?
You claimed that he should have just given the info to reporters, when in fact that's what he did. You first claimed that there's no legal defense of justification, when it's part and parcel of the law, and now you're changing your story. You got your "facts" from a MOVIE (try admitting that into evidence). You claimed that they have to convince the judge, and not the jury. And you claimed that I was saying that it was very likely that he would get a hung jury, when in fact what I made it clear he wasn't likely to even get to trial. He doesn't want to be tried unless he can turn it into a show trial. The government doesn't want to try him. It's all "performance art." And now that he's too visible, they can't even suicide him.
Slide rules are an excellent example because they went from a must have to a nice to have to a wtf is a slide rule.
The demand for fortran programmers is a lot lower than it was 40 years ago. And yes, the problems have changed, and the old solutions no longer work in new problem domains. Nobody is developing web sites or apps in fortran or with a slide rule.
The simple fact is that software development will continue to be off-shored to wherever is cheaper, until such time as it is automated and all those coding jobs implode.
Many programming skills are already marginalized. I love writing in assembler because of the clarity (what I ask for is what I get - or else!) but the number of jobs, even in the embedded space, is declining. And how's the demand going for dBase, clipper, and Foxbase programmers? Adobe AIR? Object Pascal? ColdFusion? ActiveX?
But I don't have to predict the future to know that off-shoring is going to continue, and that programming is fast becoming a mooks game.
Judging by how ugly her Discorunner website is, they need to learn, not teach, graphic design. Then again, it must take some "skill" to make wordpress look more than usually like shite.
"It is practically impossible to teach good programming to students that have had a prior exposure to Dijkstra: as potential programmers they are mentally mutilated beyond hope of regeneration."
Slashdot Mirror
And then there are the idiots who study astrology, theology, etc.
Speaking of history, you'll find that many of histories greatest minds were theologians. You can even still see that influence in modern science.
So what does that "prove?" That the "great minds" of the past were equally subjected to the stupidity and / or pressures of their time - nothing more, nothing less. "It still moves."
All processes are based on cause and effect.
It's a slashvertisement submitted by the guy doing the jMonkeyEngine. The focus seems to be on price. "The price of everything and the value of nothing" comes to mind.
If you don't want to go the subscription route, you can download Unit5 5 Personal for free, and then buy the Pro version for a single payment of $1,500.00 once you exceed $100,000 per year of revenue. Future upgrades are half price. Sounds like a very fair offer.
Anyway, I'm downloading Unity to give it a look-see. Just 'cuz.
That "some people" is down to less than 1%. The only way it gets to even 1.34% is because of chromebooks. This is down from a peak of about 2% "way back when" - when everyone, including myself, still believed in the possibility of a "year of the linux desktop."
Many of us have just given up due to distro-hopping fatigue.
Guess I was just more careful - and had a tyrant for a boss. The primary server had to start up 400 threads at start, and never terminate a thread to reclaim lost memory (terminating a thread and restarting it would have too much overhead). The secondary server had the same specs, except only 100 threads. Both servers had to communicate with each other and the outside world, as well as loading a list of modules for each one at startup.
Ran it over a 4-day weekend at 1,000 requests/second on a machine with only half a gig of ram, and when I got back to work, not one byte lost (would have been easy to know because I was running linux and bsd w/o swap. Even 1 byte lost per request would have killed it, or at least killed one or more threads, and there was no provision to restart a dead thread, or a hung one ...).
Anything's possible if you don't accept the "received wisdom" that it's "umpossible" to write c/c++ code that doesn't leak memory and you're willing to test, test, test (and try some weird stuff), like a real challenge, and you have a boss who insists that nothing less is acceptable so he gives you the time to "make it so."
What gets me is "why would we even bother automating this?" Because we can? If we automate everything, what are we going to do with our time? Oh, right, surf facebook so they can sell us more crap we don't need.
Well, gotta go vacuum (no roomba, and it wouldn't be able to suck the dust off the shelves and will choke on the dog fur anyway).
But learning programming teaches process thinking, which is an invaluable skill.
No it doesn't. Kids learn that long before they go to school. "If I do x, I will get y." "If I pull the dog's tail too many times, he'll lose his patience with me." "I can get more cookies if I say please." "I can get even MORE cookies if I invite friends over and we get the whole bag." "Holding my breath until I turn blue no longer works - I'll try throwing myself on the floor." "Taking a tantrum no longer works - maybe I'll say please." "If I say 'are we there yet' often enough, they'll stop and buy me an ice cream cone to shut me up." "Baths are better with a rubber duckie." "I guess I shouldn't have helped by emptying my diaper myself." "I guess I shouldn't have helped by painting the cat." "I'm not going to tell them I also painted the dog." "He followed me home" (said while dragging dog behind me on a rope).
Kids learn at a young age to try different strategies to get an optimal (for them) outcome. They learn what processes for getting their way work, and what don't. Sure, you can map it out with a bunch of conditionals, loops, tests, and switch statements, but kids have already internalized the whole thing far better than you can map it out.
Come on - there are people who can't even figure out how to use a simple flip phone. Your estimation of the ability of the average person is demonstrably wrong - look at how many guys can't even figure out how to change to roll of toilet paper.
That's what electronic engineers said. Now even Apple outsources the internal design of their electronics to ODMs.
Uh, oh. Sounds like *someone* only has a single skill and is worried about their future job security!
So, instead of making a counter-argument, you attack my motives? Wow, just wow.
It does not make much difference what a person studies. All knowledge is related, and the man who studies anything, if he keeps at it, will become learned. --Hypatia of Alexandria
He's dead, Jim. But seriously, not all knowledge has equal value to the individual. Every pursuit of knowledge in one domain has a "lost opportunity cost" in that the time and energy could have been devoted to other knowledge or endeavors. And then there are the idiots who study astrology, theology, etc.
I believe they're both involved, but the two sites (discowhatevah and pixelwitches) both give Mel as the contact.
BASIC programs are saved as text files (revolutionary! paradigm shift!! No more .BAS binaries!! [sigh])
Yeah - that's about as "new" as my pre-PC Radio Scrap computer.
It's a dead end, Jim.
As I pointed out, "This whole 'OMG if my kids can't code they'll be disadvantaged for life' stupidity has to be called out for what it is." And that includes those trying to profit from it in various ways - and not just the big boys either.
This is a blatant slashvertisement - that doesn't mean that it's in any way approved by the editors. It means that it's an article that was submitted by the submitter with the express purpose of pimping her new project.
So, submitting it, it's fair bait for getting whacked. Same as all those stupid "Look KICKSTARTER OMG" articles.
They're both binspam. While I usually down-mod them in the firehose, (same as those I want to learn how to code so I can make a zillion bux because my career sux), every once in a while I bump a really bad one up in the hope that it will make it to the front page for the shellacking it deserves.
Haven't been disappointed yet :-)
BASIC is just the ultimate bad language. Like King John, it has no redeeming features.
Next you're going to claim that Hitler never did anything good. He did - he killed Hitler.
BASIC might be bad, but for kids, why not?
Still, this slashvertisement needs to die.
But yes, absolutely, this was spam to promote Melody Ayers-Griffiths new pixelwitches.com "training" at $97/hour for things like wordpress, drupal, graphic art, music, whatever, and kids "group learning events." Though none of her experience is geared towards that. Being an Apple service tech for a decade doesn't qualify you much for either teaching or programming.
Several steps could be eliminated just by learning that dirty clothes go in the hamper, not on the floor. You leave them on they floor, they're just not going to be washed, same as now. That'll learn y'all :-)
It's Melody Ayres-Griffiths. She's promoting her new (started setting ip up in December) pixelwitches, which will teach you "training in graphic design, music / audio and videography on Macintosh and Windows-based PCs for $97 per hour." And let's not forget drupal and wordpress work.
But from the look of their discorunner site (hint - she used to do music stuff) she needs someone to tell her that the '90s wants their butt-ugly wordpress theme back.
Archive org shows that the original owner of discorunner.com let it expire in the spring of 2014. It was taken over by the new owner on January 15th of this year. The previous site had to do with ... wait for it ... jogging.
Slashvertisement, pure and simple.
Hint - she only started to get set up over the last few months. This article is a slashvertisement for her business.
No, you're not staying. Once you hit the magic number (age + perceived obsolescence + cost of benefits + likelihood of having quality of life concerns + salary + perceived inflexibility) .GT. availability of new cannon fodder who don't know any better , you're gone whether you like it or not.
All it takes is one juror to hang a jury ... and IF it ever goes to trial (doubtful) that's a likely scenario.
Two different things. First, I doubt it will ever go to trial. Snowdon is probably just tweaking the government's nose (as I said before). That is the most likely event - say 80% or more. Every other outcome is minor in comparison, including a hung jury, a conviction, or a mistrial. It almost definitely will not go to trial. Now, let's look at the favorable outcomes in the very low probability that it actually goes to trial.
Overall, his chances of winning greatly exceed 10%, since you forgot to add up all the different reasons I've given for him winning. Hung jury - 5-10%. Justification defense - 20-40%. Mistrial - 10-20%. Success on appeal if convicted - who knows, but definitely greater than zero. Overall, that's half decent odds (35-70% or more). But only in the VERY unlikely event that it even gets to trial. Or do you really believe the government wants to try him?
You claimed that he should have just given the info to reporters, when in fact that's what he did. You first claimed that there's no legal defense of justification, when it's part and parcel of the law, and now you're changing your story. You got your "facts" from a MOVIE (try admitting that into evidence). You claimed that they have to convince the judge, and not the jury. And you claimed that I was saying that it was very likely that he would get a hung jury, when in fact what I made it clear he wasn't likely to even get to trial. He doesn't want to be tried unless he can turn it into a show trial. The government doesn't want to try him. It's all "performance art." And now that he's too visible, they can't even suicide him.
Slide rules are an excellent example because they went from a must have to a nice to have to a wtf is a slide rule.
The demand for fortran programmers is a lot lower than it was 40 years ago. And yes, the problems have changed, and the old solutions no longer work in new problem domains. Nobody is developing web sites or apps in fortran or with a slide rule.
The simple fact is that software development will continue to be off-shored to wherever is cheaper, until such time as it is automated and all those coding jobs implode.
Many programming skills are already marginalized. I love writing in assembler because of the clarity (what I ask for is what I get - or else!) but the number of jobs, even in the embedded space, is declining. And how's the demand going for dBase, clipper, and Foxbase programmers? Adobe AIR? Object Pascal? ColdFusion? ActiveX?
But I don't have to predict the future to know that off-shoring is going to continue, and that programming is fast becoming a mooks game.
PixelWitches provides one-on-one training in graphic design, music / audio and videography on Macintosh and Windows-based PCs for $97 per hour.
Oh, and also drupal, wordpress
Judging by how ugly her Discorunner website is, they need to learn, not teach, graphic design. Then again, it must take some "skill" to make wordpress look more than usually like shite.
Still in denial over outsourcing and off-shoring, I see.
FTFY