Certainly at the moment that's a problem, but we are talking about implementing a law that gives you redress, which would rather change the situation...!
Here's the start of a plan - or a 'kernel' if you will:-)
1) Automatic loss of suit if return/reply address is faked/unreachable or there is no unsubscribe address
2) Recipient must reply requesting to be removed from list or mail unsubscribe address to become eligible.
3) If Recipient receives more mail after 28 days have passed then suit is proven.
...and under a sales tax version you go to work and get 'vouchers' for the work you have done, but when you exchange them some of the benefit of that work goes to others whether you like it or not and there's nothing you can do about it, but if you don't work you can't eat.
So your point was..?
Anyway, because sales are not recorded, a Sales Tax is by definition a flat rate tax (by 'vouchers' exchanged, not by item), so it hits the poor disproportionately hard.
Also because we record what people have earnt, and where they live/work, a local Income Tax is easily piggybacked onto national Income Tax, but not so for sales tax.
Yeah, but you didn't start from a position of two equal evils did you? Just the one, and then you gave me no choice! Owww!
To complete your analogy, if I have a choice of with or without lube, but either way I'm going to get it up the chocolate starfish, then "Lube Please!"
By having different prices for EU and US customers? Yeah, that'd work. But then we wouldn't buy stuff from 'over there' cos it'd cost the same as 'over here';-)
I'd argue: why is there a social security tax at all? As I said in another post, if the govt can't provide an economic/social reason for separate taxation then all tax should be income tax.
In the UK, the only differences between this tax (which we call NI) and Income Tax are (1) that it has a ceiling - but Gordon Brown just changed that! - and (b) that it is only on earnt income.
If neither of those is for an established social/economic purpose - and I don't think they are - then they should raise the case with IT.
I've heard this argument before, but - to me - mathematically it doesn't stand up very well as there is usually exactly as much creation as consumption. Or to put it another way, whatever gets sold gets bought!
This argument relies effectively on the presence of goods in a 'made but not sold' state (in other words in warehouses) and implies that manufaturing will be reduced as manufacturers will not manufacture without certain sales, but what's the problem with that? The plus side is that governments get tax whether the manufacturer gets his sums right or not.
Well, either a local/national sales tax or a local/national income tax would be fair. I don't really mind which, but income tax is easier to implement.
Sorry, didn't mean to sound patronising, I am just acutely aware that other people than you and I will read this. Anyway...
I like the bit about all the rest of the taxes go up best.
We should get rid of all taxation apart from income tax. NI is a joke now that Brown's changed the rules, VAT is mostly a way of hiding tax, inheritence tax is an immoral mess (that was also supposed to be temporary), and as for making pension funds liable for tax in 1997, well, I'd shoot the Brown and the rest of the cabinet from a cannon for that alone!
To be honest, I would say that all taxation should either have a defined purpose or should be removed and the money raised through Income Tax.
VAT was introduced as a temporary measure (a tax on luxuries) over two centuries ago to fund the Napoleonic War. We have little or no idea what people's spending patterns would be like if it had never existed.
<an aside>:
We only have VAT still because governments never remove taxation that is not being protested. So this temporary measure has been expanded till razor-blades and tampons are taxed as luxuries!
Don't let me start on Inheritence Tax!
</an aside>
if I buy something from the US and have it shipped by air freight to me in the UK, then I am supposed to put my hand up and give Her Majesty's government the tax.
Back in reality, Customs can and do stop parcels and insist you tell them what's in it. However, they ignore most of the stuff for private citizens and only go after the stuff for companies.
This is a good demonstration of why Income Tax is a much better form of taxation than Sales Tax: it's easier to enforce local taxation that way.
Sounds logical, but not really. If diversity is dependant upon the offspring and mutations passed on to them, then the longer it takes to produce the next generation, the less diversity for that species when compared to other species, over the same time-frame.
OK, I should've said that they will have a level of diversity consistent with a very low population five thousand years ago.
I doubt it. Why bother with all the animals then?
I don't know. Perhaps because it's just a story, not real, and so doesn't have to make sense?!
What you are missing, I think, is that diversity reduces in small total populations.
Chimps, can and do change troops, interbreed with other troops, exist as lone males, etc. If they were reduced to 2000 or so then they would not maintain their current level of genetic diversity as, for example, fewer males would have the opportunity of siring offspring.
Hence it is not a like-for-like comparison. You are comparing pre-small-pool chimps with post-small-pool humans. Although given the state of the world's primates, it won't be long before you can make the comparison fairly:(
It's not really force/acceleration that's important, it's kinetic energy and momentum:
Not quite, cos it's relative. I don't care how damn fast it's going so long as I'm going at approximately the same speed.
The previous poster was correct. The force against the shuttle is dependent on the acceleration experienced by the foam (and of course the shuttle), not on an imagined absolute speed. I suspect that the foam had slowed a lot as it passed through the air and that it got knocked for six in the impact.
For our purposes (arguing on/. - grin) though, we can treat it as relative speeds: a 1kg block going at 750mph (having slowed due to wind resistance) upwards impacting a shuttle surface rising at 1000mph can be considered equivalent to a 1kg foam block hitting at 250mph.
I was going to put a humorous sign-off, but then I remembered we are actually thinking about real people getting dead:(
"I don't know why Tivo is concerned with video extraction on the Standalone (normal) Tivos since the signal is being endoded digitally from an analog signal inside the Tivo."
Personally I can't tell the difference between the signal straight off my set-top box and the TiVo 'Best' quality setting.
It may have once been analogue[1] if you have an analogue feed, it's certainly a lossy encoding, but it's digital and high-quality once it's in there.
J.
[1] I'm English.
Surely the fact that you have to pay for this crap should mean that you get a decent service? Or do you agree with EULAs that say 'we do whatever we like and don't give a shit'? Linux/*BSD are a rather different kettle of fish.
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J.
On which criteria do you base this figure ? Your sister's period ?
Delighted to be discussing this one so erudite.
J.
1) Automatic loss of suit if return/reply address is faked/unreachable or there is no unsubscribe address
2) Recipient must reply requesting to be removed from list or mail unsubscribe address to become eligible.
3) If Recipient receives more mail after 28 days have passed then suit is proven.
Seems easy enough to me. Do it!
J.
So your point was..?
Anyway, because sales are not recorded, a Sales Tax is by definition a flat rate tax (by 'vouchers' exchanged, not by item), so it hits the poor disproportionately hard.
Also because we record what people have earnt, and where they live/work, a local Income Tax is easily piggybacked onto national Income Tax, but not so for sales tax.
Justin.
To complete your analogy, if I have a choice of with or without lube, but either way I'm going to get it up the chocolate starfish, then "Lube Please!"
J.
J.
That said, no fucking way! It's a choice. I prefer the version where I truly own things and my kids'll get 'em. What I really hate is a tax on death.
J.
In the UK, the only differences between this tax (which we call NI) and Income Tax are (1) that it has a ceiling - but Gordon Brown just changed that! - and (b) that it is only on earnt income.
If neither of those is for an established social/economic purpose - and I don't think they are - then they should raise the case with IT.
J.
This argument relies effectively on the presence of goods in a 'made but not sold' state (in other words in warehouses) and implies that manufaturing will be reduced as manufacturers will not manufacture without certain sales, but what's the problem with that? The plus side is that governments get tax whether the manufacturer gets his sums right or not.
J.
J.
J.
US firms are still having to pay to implement EU taxation policies...
I like the bit about all the rest of the taxes go up best.
We should get rid of all taxation apart from income tax. NI is a joke now that Brown's changed the rules, VAT is mostly a way of hiding tax, inheritence tax is an immoral mess (that was also supposed to be temporary), and as for making pension funds liable for tax in 1997, well, I'd shoot the Brown and the rest of the cabinet from a cannon for that alone!
To be honest, I would say that all taxation should either have a defined purpose or should be removed and the money raised through Income Tax.
J.
VAT was introduced as a temporary measure (a tax on luxuries) over two centuries ago to fund the Napoleonic War. We have little or no idea what people's spending patterns would be like if it had never existed.
<an aside>:
We only have VAT still because governments never remove taxation that is not being protested. So this temporary measure has been expanded till razor-blades and tampons are taxed as luxuries!
Don't let me start on Inheritence Tax!
</an aside>
J.
Personally I am amazed so many companies said OK. I prefer AOL's solution of moving to Lichstenstein!
J.
if I buy something from the US and have it shipped by air freight to me in the UK, then I am supposed to put my hand up and give Her Majesty's government the tax.
Back in reality, Customs can and do stop parcels and insist you tell them what's in it. However, they ignore most of the stuff for private citizens and only go after the stuff for companies.
This is a good demonstration of why Income Tax is a much better form of taxation than Sales Tax: it's easier to enforce local taxation that way.
J.
OK, I should've said that they will have a level of diversity consistent with a very low population five thousand years ago.
I doubt it. Why bother with all the animals then?
I don't know. Perhaps because it's just a story, not real, and so doesn't have to make sense?!
J.
Because.
Because.
Oh all right, because...
1) The Noah story isn't set that long ago. According to the ages listed in the pentateuch, that only happened about five thousand years ago.
2) All the other animals would also have small diversities, unless it was a special wacky kind of flood that only drowned humans.
J.
Chimps, can and do change troops, interbreed with other troops, exist as lone males, etc. If they were reduced to 2000 or so then they would not maintain their current level of genetic diversity as, for example, fewer males would have the opportunity of siring offspring.
Hence it is not a like-for-like comparison. You are comparing pre-small-pool chimps with post-small-pool humans. Although given the state of the world's primates, it won't be long before you can make the comparison fairly :(
J.
I'd explain why but I don't have time and other posters have already done it.
J.
15,000 over 50 is 300.
300 Kelvin is about 26 Celcius, 80 Fahrenheit.
Does that help?
J.
Not quite, cos it's relative. I don't care how damn fast it's going so long as I'm going at approximately the same speed.
The previous poster was correct. The force against the shuttle is dependent on the acceleration experienced by the foam (and of course the shuttle), not on an imagined absolute speed. I suspect that the foam had slowed a lot as it passed through the air and that it got knocked for six in the impact.
For our purposes (arguing on /. - grin) though, we can treat it as relative speeds: a 1kg block going at 750mph (having slowed due to wind resistance) upwards impacting a shuttle surface rising at 1000mph can be considered equivalent to a 1kg foam block hitting at 250mph.
I was going to put a humorous sign-off, but then I remembered we are actually thinking about real people getting dead :(
J.
Personally I can't tell the difference between the signal straight off my set-top box and the TiVo 'Best' quality setting.
It may have once been analogue[1] if you have an analogue feed, it's certainly a lossy encoding, but it's digital and high-quality once it's in there. J. [1] I'm English.
I understand the Copyright Act part, but wtf is a 'Digital Millenium' anyway?
Hmmm... 1000... is it, like, eight?
J.
Surely the fact that you have to pay for this crap should mean that you get a decent service? Or do you agree with EULAs that say 'we do whatever we like and don't give a shit'? Linux/*BSD are a rather different kettle of fish.
J.