So...what *DID* happen at the end as everything started getting so chaotic? It seems that the camera shots we saw from mike and from ann were actually happening at the same time (And we just saw them separately...Ann's camera second?) That would explain all Ann's screaming you heard while mike was just staring at the wall....she saw something that we didn't see in the film.
But you never actually saw anything happen...was there a physical presence? Did the which have them do something to themselves? what?
I ride a mountainbike on some of the nastiest singletrack you can dream of every night. There's a lot more to life than sitting in front of a computer every hour of every day.
When I go home from work, it's time to do something else. Sometimes it involves geek stuff like building radios, networks, or writing code...but it usually involves being out of the house doing something more worthwhile.
Doing nothing but computers isn't living at all, let alone living well.
I can't even think of any clients that don't allow scripting. You can do PGP encryption with simple scripts. Hell, with clients like x-chat you could write a module to do it.
What's all the fuss with lame messenger clients like aim and icq? Put everyone on IRC servers.
VX-REXX for OS/2 (basically all the functionality you find in visual basic) shipped on 3 disks. Imagine that. All the OO stuff for widgets, etc, are already part of OS/2, so there is no reason to add it in the development libraries. Imagine microsoft providing ANY of their development platforms on just 3 disks! They could do it if they had designed their stupid OS correctly.
Actually, they'll have MORE of a reason, as all these people will be able to do (know how to do?) what we do with our web servers/ssh servers etc.
Having everyone doing this will be a really good reason for them to block it.
I'm worried b/c my ISP filters Netbios already through the cablemodem. What happens if they deem it necessary to filter http/ssh/etc to protect their idiot windoze users?
It's odd that small sites (like mine) don't get listed by google. I've even seen the google engine crawling over my site in my web logs, but I'm not listed.
Speaking of cancelling things for political reasons...
What ever happened to Brimstone (On FOX, I think?) That was a cool series, and it has disappeared! My only guess is that since the hero is out of hell, they dropped the series under pressure from some stupid special interest group.
It's a great file manager with an OS/2-ish interface. It has Offix DnD support, so works well with WindowMaker's Dock and Clip.
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INCONVENIENCE???
The inconvenience here is everything written for microsoft, and nothing else. Get rid of them, and the developers will be more open. Not to mention the general instability and absolute clunky clumsy inconsistencies in windoze. It's definitely the bottom of the food chain where quality is concerned in every aspect.
I have windoze for games. Everything real is done under OS/2 and linux, thank you very much. If we get rid of MS's monopoly and illegal practices, maybe the cool games will come to the superior platforms.
I hope that this initiative ends up being a way to get OS/2's object-orientedness into linux, but while still being able to pick a window manager of our choice.
It's too bad we don't have it already, but at least it's a start. I got the impression from the first time I saw KDE (I use windowmaker + DFM now) that the developers have used OS/2. I hope that they play with WPS and some OS/2 apps for a bit while developing this.
The WPS is truly a beautiful thing. If we had it for linux...damn I'd be happy.
Sounds like with KOM, etc. they are moving towards what OS/2 has had for years with SOM and DSOM.
This is a good thing. If you have ever used OS/2, you know how a TRULY object oriented interface should work. Every app can communicate with every other app and interact with each other's container objects, settings, etc.
Can't wait to see this mature. Until then, I'm still thankful for OS/2 and the WPS.:)
1) forcing us to use their integrated, windoze95ish environment.
I don't mind this as much under linux as I do under OS/2, as linux doesn't really have a common feel to all of its apps anyway. But having to run that big program just to launch a single program (even if it's the mail client) really blows. You can integrate the apps to talk to each other without forcing what equates to a separate 'desktop' Might be good for people who do nothing but do word-processing/spreadsheets/etc but sucks for the rest of us.
2) creating their own scripting language.
Why not use PERL, REXX, Python, TCL, or anything that is already there? Or better yet, hooks to an API so that you can use the scripting language of your choice with it. REXX under OS/2, for example.
Other than that, it is a good suite once you get used to it...although they try to be too much like word in the wordprocessor. The drawing program is on the order of coreldraw and is great for doing flowcharts and such. I haven't really played with the other apps yet.
A degree is not certification, as any engineer can tell you. but for those of you who think there is nothing that school can offer, perhaps your goals are too low.
I doubt I could have taught myself how to do computational fluid dynamics, finite element analysis, automatic control systems, etc. That's why I went to school...to learn what would be near impossible to teach myself, and to open my mind to different ways of thinking.
Programming, however, when the basic concepts of data structures, etc, are known, is easily self-taught. Programming is nothing but a simple tool. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who can teach themselves advanced engineering mathematics and physics without some outside help.
Here's what I get when I log into the announcement site:
Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d'
Type mismatch: 'CInt'
/security/inc/scripts.txt, line 279
Nice job, micro$loth
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With regards to the OS/2 WPS...check out DFM. It's not perfect, but it's damned nice! I use it in combination with Windowmaker. Quite a sweet combination. The DnD from DFM works with Windowmaker's dock and clip too.
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Dammit...
Why are < and > parsed in PLAINTEXT messages???
Sorry folks...the post above I put a **SPOILER ALERT** at the top, but it got hacked off b/c I had those characters around it.
So...what *DID* happen at the end as everything started getting so chaotic? It seems that the camera shots we saw from mike and from ann were actually happening at the same time (And we just saw them separately...Ann's camera second?) That would explain all Ann's screaming you heard while mike was just staring at the wall....she saw something that we didn't see in the film.
But you never actually saw anything happen...was there a physical presence? Did the which have them do something to themselves? what?
For some of us, living well includes being fit.
I ride a mountainbike on some of the nastiest singletrack you can dream of every night. There's a lot more to life than sitting in front of a computer every hour of every day.
When I go home from work, it's time to do something else. Sometimes it involves geek stuff like building radios, networks, or writing code...but it usually involves being out of the house doing something more worthwhile.
Doing nothing but computers isn't living at all, let alone living well.
Just use IRC.
I can't even think of any clients that don't allow scripting. You can do PGP encryption with simple scripts. Hell, with clients like x-chat you could write a module to do it.
What's all the fuss with lame messenger clients like aim and icq? Put everyone on IRC servers.
Southpark doesn't have a laugh track, and I laugh my ass off at that.
If not for that being on a cable channel, and the fact that I have to have cable access as part of my cablemodem agreement, I wouldn't bother.
The Internet Junkbuster
will do what you want for every site you go to.
VX-REXX for OS/2 (basically all the functionality you find in visual basic) shipped on 3 disks. Imagine that. All the OO stuff for widgets, etc, are already part of OS/2, so there is no reason to add it in the development libraries. Imagine microsoft providing ANY of their development platforms on just 3 disks! They could do it if they had designed their stupid OS correctly.
Actually, they'll have MORE of a reason, as all these people will be able to do (know how to do?) what we do with our web servers/ssh servers etc.
Having everyone doing this will be a really good reason for them to block it.
I'm worried b/c my ISP filters Netbios already through the cablemodem. What happens if they deem it necessary to filter http/ssh/etc to protect their idiot windoze users?
It's odd that small sites (like mine) don't get listed by google. I've even seen the google engine crawling over my site in my web logs, but I'm not listed.
Wassupwiddat??
Speaking of cancelling things for political reasons...
What ever happened to Brimstone (On FOX, I think?) That was a cool series, and it has disappeared! My only guess is that since the hero is out of hell, they dropped the series under pressure from some stupid special interest group.
Anybody have any more details on what happened?
You may wish to try dfm
It's a great file manager with an OS/2-ish interface. It has Offix DnD support, so works well with WindowMaker's Dock and Clip.
INCONVENIENCE???
The inconvenience here is everything written for microsoft, and nothing else. Get rid of them, and the developers will be more open. Not to mention the general instability and absolute clunky clumsy inconsistencies in windoze. It's definitely the bottom of the food chain where quality is concerned in every aspect.
I have windoze for games. Everything real is done under OS/2 and linux, thank you very much. If we get rid of MS's monopoly and illegal practices, maybe the cool games will come to the superior platforms.
Should make writing mail clients that deal with text/enriched or HTML easier...maybe we'll get some good functionality out of this
I hope that this initiative ends up being a way to get OS/2's object-orientedness into linux, but while still being able to pick a window manager of our choice.
It's too bad we don't have it already, but at least it's a start. I got the impression from the first time I saw KDE (I use windowmaker + DFM now) that the developers have used OS/2. I hope that they play with WPS and some OS/2 apps for a bit while developing this.
The WPS is truly a beautiful thing. If we had it for linux...damn I'd be happy.
Sounds like with KOM, etc. they are moving towards what OS/2 has had for years with SOM and DSOM.
:)
This is a good thing. If you have ever used OS/2, you know how a TRULY object oriented interface should work. Every app can communicate with every other app and interact with each other's container objects, settings, etc.
Can't wait to see this mature. Until then, I'm still thankful for OS/2 and the WPS.
Two things I don't like about star office:
1) forcing us to use their integrated, windoze95ish environment.
I don't mind this as much under linux as I do under OS/2, as linux doesn't really have a common feel to all of its apps anyway. But having to run that big program just to launch a single program (even if it's the mail client) really blows. You can integrate the apps to talk to each other without forcing what equates to a separate 'desktop' Might be good for people who do nothing but do word-processing/spreadsheets/etc but sucks for the rest of us.
2) creating their own scripting language.
Why not use PERL, REXX, Python, TCL, or anything that is already there? Or better yet, hooks to an API so that you can use the scripting language of your choice with it. REXX under OS/2, for example.
Other than that, it is a good suite once you get used to it...although they try to be too much like word in the wordprocessor. The drawing program is on the order of coreldraw and is great for doing flowcharts and such. I haven't really played with the other apps yet.
Mailreader....
Send my name, password, and mail server to these guys in the clear over the wire? no thanks.
umm..no.
I never see OS/2 fixpack releases posted here, for example.
URL should be:
http://www.southsoft.com
http://www.southsoft.com
Small, fast, built in PGP. Best client I've ever used...on windows and OS/2. When I asked the developers, they said they may port it to linux.
Yeah, and the police will be that much more inclined to USE this thing than fire a bullet.
No thanks!
A degree is not certification, as any engineer can tell you. but for those of you who think there is nothing that school can offer, perhaps your goals are too low.
I doubt I could have taught myself how to do computational fluid dynamics, finite element analysis, automatic control systems, etc. That's why I went to school...to learn what would be near impossible to teach myself, and to open my mind to different ways of thinking.
Programming, however, when the basic concepts of data structures, etc, are known, is easily self-taught. Programming is nothing but a simple tool. You'd be hard pressed to find someone who can teach themselves advanced engineering mathematics and physics without some outside help.
Here's what I get when I log into the announcement site:
Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a000d'
Type mismatch: 'CInt'
/security/inc/scripts.txt, line 279
Nice job, micro$loth
With regards to the OS/2 WPS...check out DFM. It's not perfect, but it's damned nice! I use it in combination with Windowmaker. Quite a sweet combination. The DnD from DFM works with Windowmaker's dock and clip too.
You can find DFM at:
http://www-c.informatik. uni-hannover.de/~kaiser/dfm/dfm.html
If it is precise, this type of thing is used to check tolerances on manufactured products (like bike frames, gears, etc)
The part is put under a robotic probing arm, and it automatically checks the position of points on the part to see if they are where they belong.