Hmmm. Looks like a syntax error to me...too much
perl, C, etc?
Back from the days when it was cool to write these obnoxious programs on the demo machines at department stores, it should be this:
10 PRINT "BITE ME"
20 GOTO 10
With the trailing semicolon on 10 (in yours) it'll
not put any newlines after each line...
Of course, these days its just an academic excercise...not much you can do on demo machines these days except write "Microsoft Sucks" in the copy of Word that was bundled with the PC.
Both systems allow processes to be migrated (MOSIX does this automatically, Beowulf has an application which does this + r_fork/r_exec)
Both systems require all apps to have a consistant view of the filesystem
Both can have an application running on many computers simultaneously, but the methodology is different (fork+IPC vs MPI)
Given that, Each of the clustering schemes are really just special cases of each other. I'm not suggesting they merge, but it would be nice for them to work together on things like cluster-wide filesystems and process migration issues.
[Sorry about my other crap post...return in the subject textbox submits:( ]
MOSIX has transparent fork-and-forget process migration, but is a bitch to set up. It would be
nice if the Beowulf-style setup (and process management tools) were available in a MOSIX like cluster. Beowulf is still for MPI apps and MOSIX is still for "normal" apps, but it will be interesting as these two products develop to see where they overlap...
They won't learn anything. They'll announce that there is a patch and NASDAQ is stupid for not
applying it. As much as I hate to admit it, there
is really a patch, and they didn't apply it, so its not MS's fault...
Its because people aren't reading the instructions, more than anything else. If you're going to compile a kernel, you have to use kgcc which is really an older version of gcc that is known to build good kernels.
Sheesh. Besides, Alan Cox said 'Nazi' and it didn't kill the thread...
This presents a big problem for Sun, though. I don't know what the support status is for the MIPS-based machines from Cobalt, but if Sun decides to switch the x86 machines to Solaris they will have to support 3 different platforms: MIPS/Linux, x86/Linux, x86/Solaris. At least on the first two it was the same OS, which would make the user space easier to deal with.
If they are planning on supporting the pre-Solaris machines they will have to write all of the software to be Linux compatible since they don't have a MIPS version of Solaris to run on the older MIPS boxes, and people with existing appliances are not going to replace their machine or upgrade at the first sign of trouble...
I was the one that reported that result. Using the bogo.c file compiled using cc65 and run under VICE. The results were the same whether I set the processor speed to "100%" or "1400%" so it might be fairly close to the real result....
I thought that's where the Ultra 5/Ultra 10 were aimed for: UltraSPARC IIi, 3 PCI slots, IDE disks, etc. Its basically an PC ATX motherboard with a SPARC bolted on...for $2500 (or substantially less, these days)
Solaris on SPARC is ok when administered right, but on the x86 it is a dog. Of course, since they control both the hardware and software on the Cobalt plaform, they could tweak it to perform reasonably.
As far as seeing it coming, I can't believe anyone didn't see it coming...with the possible exception of all the "first post" trolls and the idiot who keeps posting the goatsex links.
The problem was, they were temp files being created by a CGI app and during busy times, a period of less than an hour might go by between a reboot and out of memory...or it might be weeks. It got old really fast.
Thank goodness for perlscripts that where specifically written to clean up his mess...
Where I used to work had/tmp and swap shared via a resizable ramdisk on Solaris. It was a nightmare because we had a developer who was very sloppy and he'd not clean up temp files...after a while, the machine would crash (out of memory) and would be fine after a reboot. I never could convince him that he should erase temporary files after he was done with them...
That being said, in some respects, its a denial of service attack waiting to happen, though probably no more than a malloc() loop...
Hmm, I watch Pod People again last week...still
no sign of a pods, or for that matter, people.
The "maiden-voiced" kid isn't even close.
But, back to Manos...there used to be a windows
screensaver that would have Torgo...um...walk(?)
across the screen. One of the settings for how fast he'd go was "Runnin' from the master". It'd
play the "torgo theme song" with random barking
throughout. I wish there was a linux version of that...I'd set up a server box in my office with
that running 24x7!
I've got OpenVMS 7.2 on a PWS 500au... it is
quite a machine, but it doesn't have that
brute force feel of the VAX hardware. Now if
I could only get a hold of the Alpha version
of the Hobbiest CD, I'd be set. I spent my
last bit of "fun money" on the VAX CD!
Maybe I'm being a little too harsh, but if this is supposed to be a language to language converter, why are they using words that don't make sense, like enconverter and deconverter? Conversion is conversion is conversion...
Of course not to mention the typos and poor spelling in the site.
You obviously didn't try reading the post. The size of the instruction word has nothing to do with how much memory one can address or the size of the registers.
Coldfusion on solaris reeks. I'm sick of having it crash so hard that, on occasion, requires me to reinstall it. Not to mention the fact it weighs in at ~130M of RAM when running.
Blech. We're busy reviewing different products now, and hopefully I will be able to dump this maintenance nightmare
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Back from the days when it was cool to write these obnoxious programs on the demo machines at department stores, it should be this:
10 PRINT "BITE ME"
20 GOTO 10
With the trailing semicolon on 10 (in yours) it'll not put any newlines after each line...
Of course, these days its just an academic excercise...not much you can do on demo machines these days except write "Microsoft Sucks" in the copy of Word that was bundled with the PC.
- Both systems allow processes to be migrated (MOSIX does this automatically, Beowulf has an application which does this + r_fork/r_exec)
- Both systems require all apps to have a consistant view of the filesystem
- Both can have an application running on many computers simultaneously, but the methodology is different (fork+IPC vs MPI)
Given that, Each of the clustering schemes are really just special cases of each other. I'm not suggesting they merge, but it would be nice for them to work together on things like cluster-wide filesystems and process migration issues.[Sorry about my other crap post...return in the subject textbox submits :( ]
MOSIX has transparent fork-and-forget process migration, but is a bitch to set up. It would be nice if the Beowulf-style setup (and process management tools) were available in a MOSIX like cluster. Beowulf is still for MPI apps and MOSIX is still for "normal" apps, but it will be interesting as these two products develop to see where they overlap...
They won't learn anything. They'll announce that there is a patch and NASDAQ is stupid for not applying it. As much as I hate to admit it, there is really a patch, and they didn't apply it, so its not MS's fault...
Of course this is just a rumour which hasn't appeared on www.mchawking.com
Sheesh. Besides, Alan Cox said 'Nazi' and it didn't kill the thread...
If they are planning on supporting the pre-Solaris machines they will have to write all of the software to be Linux compatible since they don't have a MIPS version of Solaris to run on the older MIPS boxes, and people with existing appliances are not going to replace their machine or upgrade at the first sign of trouble...
I was the one that reported that result. Using the bogo.c file compiled using cc65 and run under VICE. The results were the same whether I set the processor speed to "100%" or "1400%" so it might be fairly close to the real result....
I thought that's where the Ultra 5/Ultra 10 were aimed for: UltraSPARC IIi, 3 PCI slots, IDE disks, etc. Its basically an PC ATX motherboard with a SPARC bolted on...for $2500 (or substantially less, these days)
As far as seeing it coming, I can't believe anyone didn't see it coming...with the possible exception of all the "first post" trolls and the idiot who keeps posting the goatsex links.
I actually fire mine up at work sometimes when the room gets a bit of a chill. With headphones on, you can hardly hear the disk...
We could make replicas of the :Cue:Cat so they'd have something legitimate to sue people about!
Hmm, they may sell cues, but they should purchase at least one clue. Hmm. :Clue:Cat. I like it.
Despite the fact I'll probably get struck by lightning, I've always been a fan of "Sweet Zombie Jesus!"
"Feh" is right. Who needs an alpha when I can get 0.0033 Bogomips on my c64. Read it and weep!
Imagine a beowulf cluster of C64s! Think of the power!
We were running Solaris 2.3 or 2.4, I don't remember which.
When it was reconfigured, the /tmp ramdisk was
removed and voila, it was stable as anything...
Thank goodness for perlscripts that where specifically written to clean up his mess...
That being said, in some respects, its a denial of service attack waiting to happen, though probably no more than a malloc() loop...
I always thought that WIMP stood for "Window Icon Menu Pointer", but I could be wrong...
But, back to Manos...there used to be a windows screensaver that would have Torgo...um...walk(?) across the screen. One of the settings for how fast he'd go was "Runnin' from the master". It'd play the "torgo theme song" with random barking throughout. I wish there was a linux version of that...I'd set up a server box in my office with that running 24x7!
PIPE pipeline-segment-command | pipeline-segment-command [|...]
In addition, the Logical DCL$PATH can remove the need to create all those crappy symbols...it works like a real unix path!
Combine that with the fact that MAIL finally will take internet email addresses as-is, its getting better all the time.
Now if I could just build Mozilla on VAX/VMS!
I wish they'd make it a downloadable ISO image
Of course not to mention the typos and poor spelling in the site.
You obviously didn't try reading the post.
The size of the instruction word has nothing to do with how much memory one can address or the size of the registers.
Coldfusion on solaris reeks. I'm sick of having it crash so hard that, on occasion, requires me to reinstall it. Not to mention the fact it weighs in at ~130M of RAM when running.
Blech. We're busy reviewing different products now, and hopefully I will be able to dump this maintenance nightmare