It shows how a business with a practical need can outperform a science experiment.
I'm sure the Google guys working on Google Duplex feel good about themselves and their team's commitment to diversity (or whatever other talking-points Google people recite to each other) though.
whats wrong with starting a conspiracy theory ? lets have some fun
It's not fun. People believe that shit and then don't get their kids vaccinated and then their kids die of measles. People believe all kinds of false or exaggerated stories and they make their lives and the lives of the people around them worse.
How do we know that the Chinese have not put some machine/hardware level malware in the Apple phones electronics ?
You know this kind of thing doesn't happen, right? There are hundreds of millions of iPhones. So you'd need an enormous, industrial level conspiracy to get extra hardware in them. And all it would take to unravel the biggest espionage operation in world history is for one person to find one strange thing with one phone. The iPhone is the world's most scrutinized product.
It's not even believable enough for a movie script.
Yet Facebook is completely voluntary service to use. Someone makes a choice to use facebook. You don't have to use Facebook. So its a retarded argument you are making.
Lots of transactions start out as voluntary and end up being exploitive. Are you saying you don't understand that?
Also, Facebook is terrible and Facebook has taken a very long series of actions that are arrogant and insular. Facebook keeps making big mistakes and Facebook shows no signs of changing what matters.
It's not clear that Facebook even could change its most basic problems: - it encourages emotional unhealthiness - its business model is exploitative of Facebook users - and therefore Facebook is a magnet for trolls who want to exploit users - we don’t trust Facebook - we don't want to hear our friends parrot shit they saw on the news (because all it tells us is that our friends haven't learned that the news media is trolling them)
Get ready to buy another new, much better 5G phone in 2021, as 5G service moves beyond the hype phase and really gets going. And probably another phone in 2023 as 5G matures.
It's cool though. I have QCOM stock. Everyone obviously needs a new phone.
Because it's completely off-topic. I was doing you a favor by not pointing out how very dumb your question is.
Is it enslavement if society insists that the workers wash their hands and don't spit in the soup? Certainly that eventually leads to a threat of force, but is it enslavement according to you?
Your whimsical preference for specific payment methods is not a safety issue. We can treat completely different things differently.
I know it's hard for specific types of thinkers to understand, but some things are important and need to be treated as important, and other things less important. There's a whole range, not just either "bad, therefore death penalty" versus "good, give them a medal and 10 million dollars". We can treat a whole range of behavior a whole range of ways.
Adults usually understand these sorts of things.
What if we didn't enforce health codes? Someone might get sick and spread disease to the population at large. What if we didn't force restaurants to accept cash? Someone would whine about it.
A story involving the police without police shooting someone? Or shooting someone's dog? Or choking someone? Or otherwise injuring them for no reason? Are you sure this happened in America? The description doesn’t sound like American police.
If the story is true, I would like to thank the police for not opening fire on the car. Or the driver after the car was stopped. Or random others. Or dogs that might have been in the area.
It’s actually really difficult to come up with a perfect set of rules for every possible situation anyone could ever imagine happening. And it's not necessary.
Because there's a real situation: a restaurant doesn’t want to accept cash. Is it a critical problem? No, obviously not.
What dire consequences might police use of force prevent in similar situations? None, just some entitled jerks complaining and making demands for things they have no right to.
Is police action therefore warranted? No, obviously not.
But, but what if the restaurant was making crepes from unicorn placenta!!? Yeah, no comment on the made up stories. Maybe a wizard will show up and save the day, and everyone will live happily ever after.
So, for example, It would be wrong of me to enslave them by insisting that they wash their hands or not spit in the soup?
You mean: "what if I made up a story about something that didn't happen?" Then you'd be talking to yourself, because I'm not engaging with your stories.
Maybe you don't understand why he's bad. Here's the list of bad things he did:
- not a good talker - caused people prone to hysteria to become hysterical - prompted people who hate him to get really angry - made the news media sad - ???
Maybe some policy stuff too. Perhaps someone could make a substantive list.
Clearly budget deficits haven't gotten better, for example. Some people like to say those matter — mostly when their side isn't spending the money.
So a law that insists on giving customers an extra choice is taking choice away? How very Orwellian of you!
Customers only have the choices on offer. Customers don't have the choice of a 90% discount, or to french kiss the waitress, or a million other things that restaurants aren't offering. This restaurant has made the choice not to accept cash payments. Customers have the choice to go elsewhere. Customers don't have the choice to force the restaurant into servitude on terms not on offer. Restaurant employees are not your slaves.
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It shows how a business with a practical need can outperform a science experiment.
I'm sure the Google guys working on Google Duplex feel good about themselves and their team's commitment to diversity (or whatever other talking-points Google people recite to each other) though.
They won't pass anything. There's no chance for any bill to pass unless Democrats and Republicans and Trump all work together.
Do you want them all working together? Do you think 50% of voters want their legislators to work with the other side?
They won't even try to pass it.
Someone would find ersatz parts or code in that many devices.
Yeah, it's possible to tamper with a few devices. It isn't possible to tamper with a few hundred million devices.
I never saw any ZTE hate. ZTE got caught transferring technology against export controls, made a deal with authorities to stop it and punish those responsible, and then got caught cheating on the deal.
The historical Huawei hate always seemed weirdly organized though, like someone was orchestrating it.
whats wrong with starting a conspiracy theory ?
lets have some fun
It's not fun. People believe that shit and then don't get their kids vaccinated and then their kids die of measles. People believe all kinds of false or exaggerated stories and they make their lives and the lives of the people around them worse.
How do we know that the Chinese have not put some machine/hardware level malware in the Apple phones electronics ?
You know this kind of thing doesn't happen, right? There are hundreds of millions of iPhones. So you'd need an enormous, industrial level conspiracy to get extra hardware in them. And all it would take to unravel the biggest espionage operation in world history is for one person to find one strange thing with one phone. The iPhone is the world's most scrutinized product.
It's not even believable enough for a movie script.
Ok, we won't quote you, random internet guy.
It's fucking voluntary you don't have to use it. If you being abused get the fuck out. What don't you understand!
And what about all the time between when they start exploiting you and when you finally find out about it and leave?
Not when you agree to a contract or terms of service. Which every user of Facebook does.
So you are saying you don't understand.
Russians weigh the same as a duck
Yet Facebook is completely voluntary service to use. Someone makes a choice to use facebook. You don't have to use Facebook. So its a retarded argument you are making.
Lots of transactions start out as voluntary and end up being exploitive. Are you saying you don't understand that?
The media is being unfair to Facebook.
Also, Facebook is terrible and Facebook has taken a very long series of actions that are arrogant and insular. Facebook keeps making big mistakes and Facebook shows no signs of changing what matters.
It's not clear that Facebook even could change its most basic problems:
- it encourages emotional unhealthiness
- its business model is exploitative of Facebook users
- and therefore Facebook is a magnet for trolls who want to exploit users
- we don’t trust Facebook
- we don't want to hear our friends parrot shit they saw on the news (because all it tells us is that our friends haven't learned that the news media is trolling them)
Get ready to buy another new, much better 5G phone in 2021, as 5G service moves beyond the hype phase and really gets going. And probably another phone in 2023 as 5G matures.
It's cool though. I have QCOM stock. Everyone obviously needs a new phone.
...should be illegal.
The fine they would pay is a lot less than the money they spent overpaying for DirectTV just as DirectTV's main business started circling the drain.
I notice you dodged the main question.
Because it's completely off-topic. I was doing you a favor by not pointing out how very dumb your question is.
Is it enslavement if society insists that the workers wash their hands and don't spit in the soup? Certainly that eventually leads to a threat of force, but is it enslavement according to you?
Your whimsical preference for specific payment methods is not a safety issue. We can treat completely different things differently.
I know it's hard for specific types of thinkers to understand, but some things are important and need to be treated as important, and other things less important. There's a whole range, not just either "bad, therefore death penalty" versus "good, give them a medal and 10 million dollars". We can treat a whole range of behavior a whole range of ways.
Adults usually understand these sorts of things.
What if we didn't enforce health codes? Someone might get sick and spread disease to the population at large.
What if we didn't force restaurants to accept cash? Someone would whine about it.
Perhaps you can see the difference?
No. "They did it too" is an argument for assholes posting shit in online forums. Courts don't care. Judges are grownups.
A story involving the police without police shooting someone? Or shooting someone's dog? Or choking someone? Or otherwise injuring them for no reason? Are you sure this happened in America? The description doesn’t sound like American police.
If the story is true, I would like to thank the police for not opening fire on the car. Or the driver after the car was stopped. Or random others. Or dogs that might have been in the area.
Good job police. Keep it up.
And no need for police, just issue the fine and a court summons.
Do you really not understand that a fine and a court summons are threats to use violent force against people?
Nope. Guess again.
It’s actually really difficult to come up with a perfect set of rules for every possible situation anyone could ever imagine happening. And it's not necessary.
Because there's a real situation: a restaurant doesn’t want to accept cash. Is it a critical problem? No, obviously not.
What dire consequences might police use of force prevent in similar situations? None, just some entitled jerks complaining and making demands for things they have no right to.
Is police action therefore warranted? No, obviously not.
But, but what if the restaurant was making crepes from unicorn placenta!!? Yeah, no comment on the made up stories. Maybe a wizard will show up and save the day, and everyone will live happily ever after.
So, for example, It would be wrong of me to enslave them by insisting that they wash their hands or not spit in the soup?
You mean: "what if I made up a story about something that didn't happen?" Then you'd be talking to yourself, because I'm not engaging with your stories.
Maybe you don't understand why he's bad. Here's the list of bad things he did:
- not a good talker
- caused people prone to hysteria to become hysterical
- prompted people who hate him to get really angry
- made the news media sad
- ???
Maybe some policy stuff too. Perhaps someone could make a substantive list.
Clearly budget deficits haven't gotten better, for example. Some people like to say those matter — mostly when their side isn't spending the money.
TFA mentions that pay rules will be part of a separate regulation, planned for the future.
So a law that insists on giving customers an extra choice is taking choice away? How very Orwellian of you!
Customers only have the choices on offer. Customers don't have the choice of a 90% discount, or to french kiss the waitress, or a million other things that restaurants aren't offering. This restaurant has made the choice not to accept cash payments. Customers have the choice to go elsewhere. Customers don't have the choice to force the restaurant into servitude on terms not on offer. Restaurant employees are not your slaves.