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Facebook Employees Are So Paranoid They're Using Burner Phones To Talk To Each Other (nymag.com)
Facebook's reputation has only continued to get more sullied in recent weeks, and it's taking a toll on employees. According to a new report, things over at the old FB are, well, kind of grim. From the report: "People now have burner phones to talk shit about the company -- not even to reporters, just to other employees," one former employee said. Another described the current scene as a "bunker mentality," meaning that after nearly two years of continuous bad press some people are, to borrow a phrase, leaning in as hard as they can to cope. "It's otherwise rational, sane people who're in Mark's orbit spouting full-blown anti-media rhetoric, saying that the press is ganging up on Facebook," said the former employee. Further reading: Facebook Employees Are Calling Former Colleagues To Look For Jobs Outside the Company and Asking About the Best Way To Leave.
At least myspace didn't know how to monetize... need to bring that back.. they still don't know how to monetize
n/t
This situation must be reminiscent of living in communist countries.
Enjoy!
You're not paranoid if they're actually after you.
Russian trolls
Yeah, it couldn't be just working people that don't like energy poverty. It's mindless Frenchmen doing the bidding of Russian trolls on Facebook.
Maw! Fire up the karma burner!
Glassdoor just updated their best companies to work for list and Facebook is in the top 10 based on employee feedback. Methinks someone is lying to Glassdoor about their experience at Facebook.
Russian trolls
Yeah, it couldn't be just working people that don't like energy poverty. It's mindless Frenchmen doing the bidding of Russian trolls on Facebook.
Are you trying to say people don't like it when tax breaks for the rich get loaded onto the everyman? Nah, it's gotta be them Russians.
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Can't wait to share this on facebook.
shit, they might be reading this...
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Considering the ammount of damage, targetted destruction, and graffiti left behind, it has absolutely nothing to do with labour, or taxation.
Anarchists, extremists, and just plain old fashioned assholes always attach themselves to large protests because it gives them an excuse to break shit.
The only thing necessary for evil to triumph is for it to be pitted against a slightly greater evil
Since the point of using a burner phone is not to let people know, how would anyone credibly be able to assess the widespread use of burner phones?
Some drink at the fountain of knowledge. Others just gargle.
You need to gather as much personal information about them as possible, and make it public on the internet.
What's good for the goose etc. If they are going to ass-rape the privacy of the entire world, then they have abandoned their own right to any shed of privacy either.
The internet didn't used to have these privacy raping companies on it. It's time to retake the net, or it'll be lost for good.
While Facebook may not be doing anything illegal, I consider them to be one of the worst scumbag companies on earth! They exist only to profit from collecting and selling people's private data to advertisers! They will go to obscene lengths to collect information on people whether they are Facebook users or not!! They do not care at all about people, nor the damage that recent data breaches may do to people. Suckerberg is right up there with Traitor Trump and his criminal cronies, just as EVIL and corrupt!!!!
Sorry, you don't ever leave Facebook...
There's no way out of here
When you come in
You're in for good...
“He’s not deformed, he’s just drunk!”
The whole world has gone nuts in that regard.
It used to be only evil totalitarian states and comic book villains. (At least what we were aware of...)
And now name me a single country or big corporation, that isn't on track, on the same level as, or worse than Stalin, regarding totalitarian surveillance and draconian freedom-destroying laws in the name of "security"/"safety". ... ... When the main indicator for how safe you actually are, is how free you can act and move without being repressed by draconian laws.
Let's make Facebook the next bit of a slippery slope, that serves us, for a change.
Facebook is a sad sad thing. Leave it.
On the contrary. Assholes who just want to break shit attach themselves to protests, which are often partially-led or co-organized by Anarchists.
Summary makes it sound like they only talk to each other on phones...
There is no Russian troll here in France only an ancient schema: people protest against the government,
the government do not want do step down so send few "black block" disguised as gilet jaunes to crush
shops etc, wait some time and then with a certain consensus forcibly stop the protest because of that
violence.
People here that crush things are simply government backed guys, with perhaps external idiots.
The media is being unfair to Facebook.
Also, Facebook is terrible and Facebook has taken a very long series of actions that are arrogant and insular. Facebook keeps making big mistakes and Facebook shows no signs of changing what matters.
It's not clear that Facebook even could change its most basic problems:
- it encourages emotional unhealthiness
- its business model is exploitative of Facebook users
- and therefore Facebook is a magnet for trolls who want to exploit users
- we don’t trust Facebook
- we don't want to hear our friends parrot shit they saw on the news (because all it tells us is that our friends haven't learned that the news media is trolling them)
STILL with the "blame the foreigners" narrative? Jesus, it's amazing how useful that is to brush aside the real concerns of working class people. No, nobody can possibly be getting screwed by the system that was set up to screw people, it's gotta be those dirty foreigners who are doing this to us.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
If they were really paranoid, couldn't they just use Whatsapp? I hear that's secure.
Oh wait...
You are welcome on my lawn.
We should take a huge hint from them. They know what goes on behind the scenes. Everything you say is archived - not because it's bad today. No, it will be stored and used against you later. It's a weapon. A new kind of weapon, and the Facebook employees know exactly what it's capable of. They're not being paranoid. Paranoia is an irrational fear.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
If facebook had not done the entirely stupid and irresponsible things that it looks as if they have done, I doubt if the press would be reporting about the deeds of facebook. Those people mentioned as being in Mark's orbit need to look at themselves for the cause of all the press attention.
It's not that the people's concern is illegitimate. It's that the chaos is.
to set up Stingray interceptors within their corporate sites, if people want to get any more paranoid. You know, in the interests of national security...
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Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
Also Russian trolls get attached
It's like with Black lives matter: the Russians spot a legitimate wedge issue and flare up the internet using it, with real life destabilizing consequences...
Check out the explanation here.
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/12/opinion/russia-meddling-disinformation-fake-news-elections.html
Employees also referenced Dara Khosrowshahi, the current CEO of Uber who was brought in to take over for Travis Kalanick and clean up his mess. The suggestion here is that bringing in somebody new, somebody who isn’t Mark Zuckerberg or Sheryl Sandberg, could help fix Facebook. This, of course, seems highly unlikely and, as loyalty to leadership at Facebook runs deep.
Jack Bauer and I share the same preference...
Media likes to stir the pot every bit as much as the Russians, and probably conspire (or at least are complicit) with the Russians to stir the shit for ratings. Pretending only one side benefits is why this shit isn't going to end any time soon.
Agent K: A *person* is smart. People are dumb, stupid, panicky animals, and you know it.
Jeez people, if a job is that bad, leave. Staying is just as much a choice as leaving. I've left jobs I hated and taken pay cuts and never looked back. Peace of mind has a definite value. Surprise ending: if you really enjoy what your doing, you'll be good and make more in the end.
Delete your facebook.
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"Prediction: within 10 years, Windows will be a Linux distribution." Me, 7-6-2016
"loyalty to leadership at Facebook runs deep" vs "People now have burner phones to talk shit about the company"
Which is it???
They just don't want to be paying absurd levels of taxes period. Most couldn't care less about how much money that far away strangers have.
>Are you trying to say people don't like it when tax breaks for the rich get loaded onto the everyman? Nah, it's gotta be them Russians.
It can be both.
My bad. Sincere apologies. Any way to repair the damage?
The press is ganging up on Facebook. I've never particularly like Facebook so much so I don't have an account. Facebook's creepy stalking nature has been known for a while now (precisely why I didn't have an account even five years ago). Its only recently that Facebook has been getting bad media attention because they upset the wrong people. Where was all the media attention on Facebook before they helped Trump, back when they were helping Obama? Certain people are upset about Trump winning and they believe Facebook is to blame so now its hit piece after hit piece. Facebook and Mark have always been shitty and scandalous. If the mainstream media had any credibility left they would have been targeting Facebook before people got suckered in to giving them all their data.
These arent tax breaks targeted at the rich. These are taxes targeted at the rural and suburban populations.
"His name was James Damore."
Elite thinks working peoples are too dumb to rise up on their own. That's why they push so hard to squeeze these peoples, and drive them like slaves.
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That's less contrary and more corollary.
Fuck those fucking fucks! What you said. Zuckerberg should be raped with a rusty screwdriver
I can message any friend I have with ease.
I can follow events at establishment that I enjoy if they are smart enough to actually use the Facebook event mechanism. Some put posts up saying they have an event but no actual event.
My friends see events I might attend and occasionally ask me if I'm going. So it helps me have actual face to face time with friends.
The event recommendations are actually decent. Their algorithm tens to see that you like ABC and other similar events (like ABC) appear in your feed.
People/companies that know how to use the invite system make events and send me invites. The invites are not obtrusive at all.
Facebook. Start monetizing the event system! And frankly, you need to send every company correspondence telling them THIS IS HOW TO USE EVENTS! Because quite frankly I enjoy events. And quite frankly I'd say only 20% of companies use them properly. I can't even find a god damned happy hour or trivia night. Well, every bar should have trivia night as a recurring weekly event and I should be able to find many of them. Instead I have to find this crap through looking at each companies web site or if I'm lucky they might have an image burried among their 100+ images that says what their weekly events are.
Well, that's how democratic parties (which has nothing to do with democracy) think.
I can accept that there are some number of Russian trolls on Facebook doing what the OP says... not saying I *do* accept it, just that it's not unreasonable. But even if true, I also can accept that they have pretty much zero impact in the grand scheme.
Dark Reflection
It could be the machine from future trying to destabilize humanity. It could be China. It could be aliens. "Could be" is not prove.
It's been coming for the last few years, but The End is finally here for Facebook; everyone is now seeing what the true nature of the beast is, and it's ugly as sin. Time for you to all abandon ship just like the employees are. Formulate your own Facebook Exit Strategy and get off it now. Helping kill Facebook is probably the kindest thing you can do for everyone who is either still ignorant of how bad it is, is in denial about it, or just still sitting on the fence. Time for people to start being actually social, instead of social-media-fake-social.
Since they know the inner working of "social media", they surely know the extent of social surveillance.
And I see nothing wrong in using burner phone "just in case", it's an added security.
Trump told you so.
P.S. Delete your Facebook account, I did at the start of this year and have not missed it one bit.
The media is being unfair to Facebook
The media from what I've seen is just reporting on what facebook has done, what facebook has admitted to and pointing out facebook's lies.
How is that unfair?
Considering the ammount of damage, targetted destruction, and graffiti left behind, it has absolutely nothing to do with labour, or taxation.
Anarchists, extremists, and just plain old fashioned assholes always attach themselves to large protests because it gives them an excuse to break shit.
They didn't do that with the tea party protests. Why's that?
Also, Facebook is terrible and Facebook has taken a very long series of actions that are arrogant and insular. Facebook keeps making big mistakes and Facebook shows no signs of changing what matters.
True on some levels (E.g. Facebook optimizes for used interaction, even at the expense of user experience. It is basically stuck optimizing for local minima that will cost it users. Most telling point: when you pick up your phone, Facebook waits a tiny bit of time and then gives you a notification for some random thing, rather than giving you the notification *when the thing happens* and not issuing notifications for stuff you probably don't care about.)
OTOH, they do make improvements from the user perspective too. They locked down users' friends info from developers a few years ago, for example. They didn't go far enough--NOBODY should be allowed to make you sign in through facebook to take a random internet quiz, that should just be against Facebook policy--but they made progress.
The overuse of contractions like this is downright obnoxious. "Who are" and "who're" (if that is even a contraction!) are both disyllabic and require the same amount of effort to say. Is this just a failure at trying to look lazy?
Parent brought up a good point...
In a very real sense, that is true. The media have been in a continuous uproar since the 2016 Presidential election and the Brexit vote, because the "wrong side" won, and Facebook is a very convenient target for part of the blame. It's not as if Facebook's business model was any different before 2016; the company has always had slimy business practices. The media simply gave Facebook a free pass up to that point.
It must be enormously frustrating to Zuckerberg and Sandberg to fight this battle, because their political leanings are no doubt on the progressive side, and Facebook fundamentally did nothing different in 2016 than it did in 2012. They can't comprehend why they're suddenly the bad guys. It's just that in the modern world of social media (which they helped to create), when the mob goes hunting for witches, someone has to be thrown on the pyre.
"Russian trolls" is the new online "Racist!" It's a meaningless term that is used to indicate that the person doesn't agree with you.
Once upon a time, the words had a real meaning, but in this age, I literally can't.
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Trotsky-slut progressives at FANGS are reaping the thought-crime mentality rewards they have so diligently sown. Could not happen to a nicer nest of hissing/spitting/rattling DemoRat vipers.
Elite thinks working peoples are too dumb to rise up on their own. That's why they push so hard to squeeze these peoples, and drive them like slaves.
You're giving people way too much credit. Nobody thinks that hard about anything. They just do whatever the hell they want.
It's when people push back violently that they start to think.
Nope the problem is wage stagnation and also what the taxes are used for. The tax cuts, tax credits go to the 0.1% or 1% and meanwhile the people have seen how tribunals have closed, hospitals have closed or are deteriorating and so on among more things that are public, and they know it will get worse (European Union always wants more). e.g., the State will sell more jewels, or will mount an attack on healthcare by slowly defunding it.
The government could have succeeded somewhat in this or well, delayed the inevitable but they presented the tax bill to the bottom 80% of the population. We're talking min wage workers commuting to their job, etc.
It's also "for the environment" i.e. if you drive to work, or to the post office because the old one closed down you might as well be clubbing baby seals. That is plainly insulting and avoids solving anything.
Shut up and buy the dip.
Boiling AIDS infested Lipton tea produces Lipton tea.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
You need parental controls.
It little behooves the best of us to comment on the rest of us.
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The bunker is real, and it's spectacular.
Russians are having a fun job with their evil and pernicious propaganda. Have a look at one of their latest articles (SFW) :
https://www.rt.com/news/445756-kazakh-lara-croft-kadurov/
Russians weigh the same as a duck
Whenever possible, leave professionally. Give notice, but be prepared to be escorted out the door. Don't take what doesn't belong to you. Don't burn bridges. If giving your old company the real reason you are leaving will help them without hurting you or anyone else, do it, otherwise keep your peace.
There are times you can't do this. If you are leaving because of others' bad behavior, you may have ethical or legal obligations to report it to higher-ups, the police, or others, even if it means burning bridges. But if you are just leaving since your job is frustrating or no longer fun, just leave quietly.
Facebook can't die off quick enough. It's a plaque on society.
Everyman? What's with the jellow jackets then? What's with the spraying that French everymen are disgusted by?
saying that the press is ganging up on Facebook
Stop being a dick, maybe? Sometimes the bully deserves to get their ass kicked.
Geez, it is like they do not understand the concept of a double edged sword. It should only get worse as they continue to eat their own.
It's entirely possibly that Facebook is a shitty place to work AND journalists are lying scumbags!
It doesn't have to be "either/or"...
I hope every inch of Facebook is thoroughly searched, investigated, and made public.
I was wise enough to avoid Facebook totally, including removing every vestige of it from my phone immediately when I have to get a new one. I've kept as much of my personal info to myself, unless it's a case where I really need to share something. I can't imagine being dumb enough to have shared myself, and in doing so sharing substantial info on my friends, with Fb.
Fuck 'em!
Agreed that the overuse of contractions is annoying, but you are wrong about one thing: "who're" is a monosyllable.
The problem was that the Russians didn't care which way it swirled, and used a random back and forth motion. The media in America only wants it to swirl to the left.
Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
Haha! Doing that. Changed jobs. Roll the 401K over. Check is in the mail during the dip.
Aah, change is good. -- Rafiki
Yeah, but it ain't easy. -- Simba
Who wants to hang out with granma and grandpa? Those fuckers might break a hip.
First, because lots of people are after them, second, the watched 'The Wire' and Zuck is obviously Stringer Bell.
Nooo, not Lipton........ aaarg :O
Asking for a friend.
We already correlated your location with your burner phone. And then ran facial recognition to confirm it was you.
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Who wants to hang out with granma and grandpa? Those fuckers might break a hip.
I know that the snowflakes have a reputation for being fragile, but I don't think they're THAT fragile ...
How utterly convenient for your "argument", to leave out the essential conditional rest of the statement.
power of the tech they worked on.
Did they chat with their friends doing voice recognition for ads?
Domestic spying is now "Benign Information Gathering"
Hmm... sounds just like what other criminal organizations do, eh?
What is that? FaceFuck employees are unhappy?
GOOD. FUCK ‘EM. Fuck them right in the fucking Face....Book.
Facebook, a long time ago, made my list of companies I cannot WAIT to watch go under.
Our reign has gone on long enough. Indeed. Summon the meteors.
When you choose your burner, be very careful it doesn't have the Facebook app preinstalled.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem starts to look like a thumb.
It seems entirely plausible and rational to think the media IS in fact 'out to get' Facebook. After all, the media, for the most part, is all about ad money, and Facebook is siphoning off traditional media's ad money by the billions. It could be argued it's irrational to think the media ISN'T out to get FB.
I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy
Whomever is using burners to "bitch about FB", they need to STFU and deal, attempt to change, or leave.
If they've already got options in the money, then why the f are they there?
I get that it's likely impossible to change stuff
So for those in the money, they're staying why? And for those not in the money, they're waiting around, in a FML kinda way, till they get in the money?
Your comment is irrational, it is possible for more than one thing to be happening in the world at any given time. It is possible for some foreigners to provoke and encourage bigotry while, simultaneously, other foreigners are the subject of bigotry. That can happen. It's not a contradiction.
You say "hoor", like an old italian-american lady referring to a pretty woman she doesn't like ?
I pronounce it as "hoo-er". You might have stumbled on differences in regional dialect. I do pronounce "who're" as a single two syllable word rather than two distinct words, so I think that at least backs up your original point in spirit.
There's always a violent group willing and able to join any available protest.
Not to anything close to what your narrative claims. The Democrats find it convenient in order to avoid any introspection and maybe justify stealing power they were not given.
That's because to these European "Agenda 21ers," for lack of a better word, want to force everyone into huge urban constellations - people are easier to control if they can be spied on continuously, and it's easy to do that in a city.
These people who work in one of the planet's most intrusive and evil spying outfits are paranoid that somebody might see or hear THEIR communications?
If that right there does not convince you to get off of Facebook, you are a complete and utter moron.
"Social Networks" are the exact opposite of what their name implies - they encourage people to have "friends" they have never even met, to value the opinions of people who have never met them, and to prefer electronic communication with strangers over direct social contacts with friends and family.
Go away robot sheep
You were never like this before 2016. It's almost like a completely different person is hiding behind your low UID.
How much did a Russian troll pay for your account? All your posts these days are whataboutism and misdirections, and you constantly protect the GOP and Russian interests while attacking anything they oppose.
Slashdot has a well known problem with Russian trolls hijacking old accounts and clearly you're one of them.
The whole "blame the foreigners" narrative is the weapon of first resort of those who despise the working class and wish them harm. It is used frequently to dismiss their legitimate concerns by claiming they are not genuine but dirty foreigners in disguise. One can see why it's popular, no arguments need be made, it's very easy to do.
Shutting down free speech with violence isn't fighting fascism. It IS fascism!
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something something needs of the many
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It can be all of those...
Welcome to the Twitterfication of the English language
something something needs of the many
Roman's lord and savior tells him it is OK to shit all over the needs of the many. If they can't pull themselves up by their own bootstraps then he sees them as ripe for exploitation and worthy of nothing more.
Though the inverse - sacrificing the needs and lives of many to retain the lifestyles and benefits of the few - is something you are all in favor of. And if the leader of your cult should ever fall ill I'm sure we'll see you calling for lesser men to find what organs they can donate to him to sustain his life.
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