WHAT?!? You're not sure why a company should want to make a customer happy?
He's not a customer. A customer is someone who buys things from your company. When you complain and don't buy, you're not a customer.
The rest of your post seems to indicate you're either a troll or someone who thinks advertising is the same as testimony in court. It's not. Advertising is a one-sided message. Also, water is wet.
Please show us where users are demanding to be inconvenienced by Apple's paranoid approach to controlling all aspects of their offerings.
For this, see the lines of people in front of the Apple stores to buy iPhones.
Also, there's no evidence of any irrational behavior from Apple. You seem to be just as confused about this as the original poster. When you don't get what you want from someone, it's not usually because of their insanity. Usually it's because you want something different than they do and they are more interested in their own goals than yours.
People using Linux (a small but not for that reason ignorable niche)...
Not ignorable? Lots of companies like Apple seem to be doing fine ignoring Linux users.
Some of you guys seem to think your dollar is worth more than the Mac or Windows user's dollar. So companies should jump through extra hoops to get that dollar. The money spends the same whether it comes from a clueless Windows user or a Linux hacker. And it's easier to get more of it from the Windows user, so that's how companies optimize their input effort.
People do not want Apple, or any other company for that matter, to solve all the problems...
Yes, they do. Or. more importantly, they want a system that never had the problems to begin with.
I think you're confusing a "manic desire to maintain total control over their hardware and software" with Apple just not doing what you wish they would do. (You haven't specifically said what that is though.) I'm not sure why Apple should want to make you happy with their actions. They're offering some products. Your choice is to take them or leave them.
Apple doesn't owe each individual person their dream product -- specifically tailored to your personal individual desires and biases. No one owes you that. And it's not "arrogance" when folks don't focus on what you want.
If you don't like their products, you're probably outside their target market.
Linux is more mainstream than 64-bit Windows. iTunes doesn't support Linux either. But if you complain about that on the Apple forums, no one will listen to you. Why should it be different with 64-bit Windows?
When the products are essentially the same, then the marketing matters.
But not like the original poster meant -- he was saying AMD would be proven wrong about some hype-full marketing assertion and somehow "lose face" or something. It doesn't work that way. Hype is forgotten. If you remember it, you don't understand it.
Marketing hype is not relevant. It's not relevant when it's true. It's not relevant when it's false. It's not relevant when your marketing predicts a win and you win. It's not relevant when your marketing predicts a win and you lose.
All the fanboyism and taunting and one-upsmanship and told-you-sos are worth exactly zero dollars.
The chips will perform the way they perform. There will be benchmarks. People will buy based on cost vs. performance decision-making, not cost vs. hype decision-making.
Privacy is actually a relatively modern concept. Individuals in tribes in the jungle, for example, have near 100% freedom, but zero privacy.
The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedom.
-- Justice William O. Douglas
I think this is the confusion. Privacy is not being "left alone". Non-interference is being left alone. Being left alone is freedom.
Privacy is demanding the right to hide from everyone. Hiding only the things you choose. Demanding success. Demanding that others who know things about you must help you hide by giving up their speech. Demanding that no one inquire. Demanding that, if someone records you, they erase it (see Google Street View nonsense).
People who don't want freedom tend to want privacy instead. They want the power to control other people, but they also want a protected zone of privacy where no one can come and control them. The answer is freedom, not privacy.
The bottom line is, without a right to privacy the other rights are largely useless.
I don't see this. I'm pretty sure I can exercise free speech without privacy. Ditto self protection. I can own property without doing it privately. I can be free from assault without privacy. I can choose my own fate without doing it privately. I can decline to incriminate myself without privacy. I can be free from cruel and unusual punishment without privacy. I can vote without privacy.
The only thing I can't do is hide. Without tyranny and the threat of force, there's little need to hide. And the focus on privacy diverts people from the fight for liberty.
I'm in favor of nominal protections for privacy. Protection for your home, your property, and your person. I don't believe in the unlimited right to hide everything about yourself -- and to demand everyone help you or cooperate in your attempts to hide.
Why do so many people advocate the abuse of services...
several reasons:
1. For profit or gain. 2. For the children (or similar emotional, irrational nonsense). Example: "Papers please arguments" 3. Groupthink. It's the groupthink-approved position. 4. Racism: They want folks who are a minority to be allowed to get away with anything they want and minorities can't be held to any standards. IDs will make that harder. 5. Some folks also think privacy is some kind of inherent right, like the right to free speech, or the right not to be enslaved. They can't really support that position with history or reason though. They just assert it, like religious folks. They simply believe. 6. Tinfoil hat paranoia. The government is out to get them and they want to hide rather than help fix it. Because fixing it would require being reasonable and responsible.
That's why they want these new IDs. Because the 9/11 terrorists had a number of different IDs.
These new IDs are supposed to expire when your visa expires. So the cop who stopped some of the 9/11 terrorists would have seen that their ID was expired and inquired about it. And they would have been deported before 9/11.
Tamper-proof IDs make it somewhat harder to infiltrate US society to conduct terrorist operations. Not impossible, just harder -- easier to slip-up and get caught.
Given the extremely high level of education in Cuba and the large number of doctors, it's a perfectly reasonable idea.
I've heard there's a high education level in Cuba. (So what do they need cheap laptops for? They seem to be able to educate people without them, according to you.) I've heard they have doctors there. I've also heard Castro is going to live to be 200 years old. I've heard the people in Cuba go hungry. I've heard lots of different things.
A country where the people routinely don't have enough food seems like a place that might not be on the leading edge of biotech. But, hey maybe they are. (Seems like poor resource planning to me, and they could do with more farmers and fewer doctors if that's true.) North Korea has a nuclear problem while the NK people starve, so who knows.
Any and all "information" about Cuba is more-or-less suspect and subject to the need for verification. Communist dictatorships without a free press are seldom reliably honest.
If it's true, I'm glad to know it. There's just a lot of this "did you know that no one ever dies of a preventable disease in our socialist paradise" type talk. I hear Castro is going to live to be 200, for example. So I'm skeptical.
A link to credible information would be informative -- more informative than "trust me, I'm someone on the Internet who claims to know". I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt at this point, but the doubt still remains.
Cuba is one of the world leaders in biotech research.
Why should anyone believe that?
It seems 100% ridiculous, and it seems exactly like one of the Cuban-regime-defenders say.
What did the Cubans biotech scientists invent? Research is not an invention. Iran is doing nuclear research, and if they keep it up, they'll be caught up to where the US was in 1944. Do the Cubans super-scientists have a vaccination for cancer we should know about?
The IRA was almost totally funded by Americans. So STFU about funding terrrorism.
Really? So because of someone in the US did something wrong a long time ago, we're never allowed to get it right? We can't even talk about doing the right thing?
Maybe we should just take this as an unlimited license to do the "wrong" thing then. And the anti-US complainers can STFU about it forever.
I'm not sure what the point of this is supposed to be.
You hate the US. Congrats. I'm sure the people in your social circle will acknowledge you and understand that you agree with them. You'll all have mutual camaraderie toward each other and mutual contempt for the "unenlightened".
But beyond groupthink and contempt, what do you have to offer?
I wonder why Cuba and Syria never seem to make some marvelous new technological advances that the US can envy from afar?
Re:This is another triumph of politics...
on
No OLPCs for Cuba, Ever
·
· Score: 0, Flamebait
What's the reward for goodwill towards murderous enemies again? Does it make European elites send you a birthday card or something? Can we drink organic cocktails at the enlightenment club while turning a blind eye toward the suffering that results? Do we get a 2% discount on a Prius?
Slashdot Mirror
This post is still modded up?
I know it seemed Insightful at first, but that was so half-an-hour ago.
I'm going out for a latte.
WHAT?!? You're not sure why a company should want to make a customer happy?
He's not a customer. A customer is someone who buys things from your company. When you complain and don't buy, you're not a customer.
The rest of your post seems to indicate you're either a troll or someone who thinks advertising is the same as testimony in court. It's not. Advertising is a one-sided message. Also, water is wet.
Please show us where users are demanding to be inconvenienced by Apple's paranoid approach to controlling all aspects of their offerings.
For this, see the lines of people in front of the Apple stores to buy iPhones.
Also, there's no evidence of any irrational behavior from Apple. You seem to be just as confused about this as the original poster. When you don't get what you want from someone, it's not usually because of their insanity. Usually it's because you want something different than they do and they are more interested in their own goals than yours.
People using Linux (a small but not for that reason ignorable niche)...
Not ignorable? Lots of companies like Apple seem to be doing fine ignoring Linux users.
Some of you guys seem to think your dollar is worth more than the Mac or Windows user's dollar. So companies should jump through extra hoops to get that dollar. The money spends the same whether it comes from a clueless Windows user or a Linux hacker. And it's easier to get more of it from the Windows user, so that's how companies optimize their input effort.
People do not want Apple, or any other company for that matter, to solve all the problems...
Yes, they do. Or. more importantly, they want a system that never had the problems to begin with.
I think you're confusing a "manic desire to maintain total control over their hardware and software" with Apple just not doing what you wish they would do. (You haven't specifically said what that is though.) I'm not sure why Apple should want to make you happy with their actions. They're offering some products. Your choice is to take them or leave them.
Apple doesn't owe each individual person their dream product -- specifically tailored to your personal individual desires and biases. No one owes you that. And it's not "arrogance" when folks don't focus on what you want.
If you don't like their products, you're probably outside their target market.
64-bit Windows isn't mainstream.
Linux is more mainstream than 64-bit Windows. iTunes doesn't support Linux either. But if you complain about that on the Apple forums, no one will listen to you. Why should it be different with 64-bit Windows?
Those huge turtles should email their congressman.
When the products are essentially the same, then the marketing matters.
But not like the original poster meant -- he was saying AMD would be proven wrong about some hype-full marketing assertion and somehow "lose face" or something. It doesn't work that way. Hype is forgotten. If you remember it, you don't understand it.
Those people will buy a Dell or an HP. The guys at Dell and HP are not ill-informed.
Marketing hype is not relevant. It's not relevant when it's true. It's not relevant when it's false. It's not relevant when your marketing predicts a win and you win. It's not relevant when your marketing predicts a win and you lose.
All the fanboyism and taunting and one-upsmanship and told-you-sos are worth exactly zero dollars.
The chips will perform the way they perform. There will be benchmarks. People will buy based on cost vs. performance decision-making, not cost vs. hype decision-making.
Privacy is actually a relatively modern concept. Individuals in tribes in the jungle, for example, have near 100% freedom, but zero privacy.
The right to be let alone is indeed the beginning of all freedom.
-- Justice William O. Douglas
I think this is the confusion. Privacy is not being "left alone". Non-interference is being left alone. Being left alone is freedom.
Privacy is demanding the right to hide from everyone. Hiding only the things you choose. Demanding success. Demanding that others who know things about you must help you hide by giving up their speech. Demanding that no one inquire. Demanding that, if someone records you, they erase it (see Google Street View nonsense).
People who don't want freedom tend to want privacy instead. They want the power to control other people, but they also want a protected zone of privacy where no one can come and control them. The answer is freedom, not privacy.
The bottom line is, without a right to privacy the other rights are largely useless.
I don't see this. I'm pretty sure I can exercise free speech without privacy. Ditto self protection. I can own property without doing it privately. I can be free from assault without privacy. I can choose my own fate without doing it privately. I can decline to incriminate myself without privacy. I can be free from cruel and unusual punishment without privacy. I can vote without privacy.
The only thing I can't do is hide. Without tyranny and the threat of force, there's little need to hide. And the focus on privacy diverts people from the fight for liberty.
I'm in favor of nominal protections for privacy. Protection for your home, your property, and your person. I don't believe in the unlimited right to hide everything about yourself -- and to demand everyone help you or cooperate in your attempts to hide.
Bob
Why do so many people advocate the abuse of services...
several reasons:
1. For profit or gain.
2. For the children (or similar emotional, irrational nonsense). Example: "Papers please arguments"
3. Groupthink. It's the groupthink-approved position.
4. Racism: They want folks who are a minority to be allowed to get away with anything they want and minorities can't be held to any standards. IDs will make that harder.
5. Some folks also think privacy is some kind of inherent right, like the right to free speech, or the right not to be enslaved. They can't really support that position with history or reason though. They just assert it, like religious folks. They simply believe.
6. Tinfoil hat paranoia. The government is out to get them and they want to hide rather than help fix it. Because fixing it would require being reasonable and responsible.
That's why they want these new IDs. Because the 9/11 terrorists had a number of different IDs.
These new IDs are supposed to expire when your visa expires. So the cop who stopped some of the 9/11 terrorists would have seen that their ID was expired and inquired about it. And they would have been deported before 9/11.
Tamper-proof IDs make it somewhat harder to infiltrate US society to conduct terrorist operations. Not impossible, just harder -- easier to slip-up and get caught.
AC says:
yeah, the ninties were so fucking long ago
Long time, short time, medium time. What's the point supposed to be?
Oh yeah: "The US is bad and we don't like it. All of us enlightened folks agree. Congrats to us." I don't know why you guys don't just say that.
"We don't care about Cuba's or Syria's victims. Because there's no congrats to us for not liking Syria. You can't social-climb that way at all."
Also
Given the extremely high level of education in Cuba and the large number of doctors, it's a perfectly reasonable idea.
I've heard there's a high education level in Cuba. (So what do they need cheap laptops for? They seem to be able to educate people without them, according to you.) I've heard they have doctors there. I've also heard Castro is going to live to be 200 years old. I've heard the people in Cuba go hungry. I've heard lots of different things.
A country where the people routinely don't have enough food seems like a place that might not be on the leading edge of biotech. But, hey maybe they are. (Seems like poor resource planning to me, and they could do with more farmers and fewer doctors if that's true.) North Korea has a nuclear problem while the NK people starve, so who knows.
Any and all "information" about Cuba is more-or-less suspect and subject to the need for verification. Communist dictatorships without a free press are seldom reliably honest.
why don't you go away and do some research
Not a high enough interest level in the subject.
If it's true, I'm glad to know it. There's just a lot of this "did you know that no one ever dies of a preventable disease in our socialist paradise" type talk. I hear Castro is going to live to be 200, for example. So I'm skeptical.
A link to credible information would be informative -- more informative than "trust me, I'm someone on the Internet who claims to know". I'm willing to give you the benefit of the doubt at this point, but the doubt still remains.
Well, having an informed population might help on the freedom part, and education makes for a better future.
I wish the US could have an informed population and a good educational system so we could have a better future.
Is being in jail in Canada different than being out of jail in Canada? Is it worse? Are the waiting lists for medical care similar?
Cuba is one of the world leaders in biotech research.
Why should anyone believe that?
It seems 100% ridiculous, and it seems exactly like one of the Cuban-regime-defenders say.
What did the Cubans biotech scientists invent? Research is not an invention. Iran is doing nuclear research, and if they keep it up, they'll be caught up to where the US was in 1944. Do the Cubans super-scientists have a vaccination for cancer we should know about?
I think their children could use freedom and legitimate hope for a better future rather than a cheap laptop.
AC says:
The IRA was almost totally funded by Americans. So STFU about funding terrrorism.
Really? So because of someone in the US did something wrong a long time ago, we're never allowed to get it right? We can't even talk about doing the right thing?
Maybe we should just take this as an unlimited license to do the "wrong" thing then. And the anti-US complainers can STFU about it forever.
I'm not sure what the point of this is supposed to be.
You hate the US. Congrats. I'm sure the people in your social circle will acknowledge you and understand that you agree with them. You'll all have mutual camaraderie toward each other and mutual contempt for the "unenlightened".
But beyond groupthink and contempt, what do you have to offer?
I wonder why Cuba and Syria never seem to make some marvelous new technological advances that the US can envy from afar?
What's the reward for goodwill towards murderous enemies again? Does it make European elites send you a birthday card or something? Can we drink organic cocktails at the enlightenment club while turning a blind eye toward the suffering that results? Do we get a 2% discount on a Prius?
When the regimes that control those countries stop sponsoring terrorism, then I'm sure they'll be taken off the export list.