Yeah, you want your neighbors threatened with violence by the authorities. You should face a substantial burden to get that. Using threats and violence against people shouldn't be casual or whimsical.
That's why policing comes before, not just after.
Casually threatening people with violence. About things they might or might not be doing, that might or might not affect you. That's what you're arguing for. (Maybe you're just an evil person -- who knows?)
That's why we get stories like this, where the police casually and routinely violate everyone's Constitutional rights.
As a side note 60 hour weeks would be illegal in the UK
Someone wants to work 60-hour weeks at a 2-month temporary labor job for some cash. Do you want to arrest them for that? Or do you merely want to deny them that opportunity?
A country where people consider their political opponents "enemies" and where the leaders use government power to hurt them is not a country that can trust an agency like the NSA. And it's not a country that prioritizes the defense against foreign threats that the NSA was originally created to provide.
Yeah, once in a while someone will say something mean-spirted and you'll look expecting to see yet another leftist hater, but you'll be surprised to see a non-leftist. How about we stop giving haters a pass because they're on our team?
The whole story is bullshit whining about nothing, pushing a political agenda by pretending any of this is news. So yeah, all the talk about it spikes the bullshit meter.
It's weird how lefties hate Walmart for the same thing, but love amazon.
Hating Walmart is party-line obedience to union leaders. Plus classism. Amazon hasn't become a big focus for union organizers yet, and Amazon employs many members of the progressive tribe in The Seattle area. So they get a pass, for now.
None of this has ever had anything to do with actually caring about the employees of these companies.
I was told the economy in that area was great and that it would all be ruined by Brexit. If the economy is so terrific, how can Amazon find any unemployed people to work at their fulfillment centers?
Can Uber also be secretly run by vampires? These types of dramatic stories deserve a compelling villain -- so heroes like you don't have to save the world from people freely giving each other convenient, modestly-priced car rides.
But seriously, lawsuits can't succeed without laws
Lawsuits succeed based on proving you were actually harmed and that the actual harm was wrongful. It takes very few laws and only a little enforcement. Local judges have been settling disputes between neighbors for many centuries.
none of my examples require imagination, they're real
You should have no problem proving them in court then. You don't need to police your neighbors' private actions because (unless you are a liar) you have proof that their actions aren't private and that they actually harmed you.
Everyone else who is minding their own business should have the opportunity to be safe from having their behavior policed.
If you have a legitimate complaint about your actual neighbors, file a lawsuit against them in your local courts. We don't need laws policing almost everything everyone does just because you make up stories about things you imagine someone might do.
Obviously, you don't quit your current job while looking for a new one. I feel like I should say "obviously" about 20 more times here, because of how you silly people can't seem to make your drama stories match reality at all.
We should let these guys in government decide which news is "real" and which is "fake". Or, if you need a 1st Amendment workaround, hire Facebook and Google to decide.
Except it's just a job. It your employer is mean to you, you go find another job. Sure, that might take a few weeks or even a few months, but there's no other reasonable choice.
That's only if it's a genuine problem. If it's a dramatic story used to manipulate people, then you should make it more interesting. How about if Uber is secretly run by vampires?
Government doesn't care about ordinary Americans. So government spending doesn't help ordinary Americans live longer, better lives. Only insiders benefit. The rest of us bear the burden.
Because some people want to spend money other people earned. Apple earned a lot. So time to imply Apple "unfairly" keeps their own money. You should support ending this "unfairness" by taking away Apple's money -- so the anointed people can spend it on themselves without the inconvenience of working and earning it.
No one is shouting anything. I just don't care to debate someone trying to redefine already poorly-defined, loose categorizations. I'm just happy now that absolutely anything can be described as "strongly right wing".
Perhaps we can all stop taking that nonsense seriously and talk about ideas rather than which box those ideas belong in -- they're all "strongly right wing" and "left wing" and probably also "moderate".
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... it imposes a further burden upon me
Yeah, you want your neighbors threatened with violence by the authorities. You should face a substantial burden to get that. Using threats and violence against people shouldn't be casual or whimsical.
That's why policing comes before, not just after.
Casually threatening people with violence. About things they might or might not be doing, that might or might not affect you. That's what you're arguing for. (Maybe you're just an evil person -- who knows?)
That's why we get stories like this, where the police casually and routinely violate everyone's Constitutional rights.
I'm sure "that didn't happen" will be said about anything Trump does too.
As a side note 60 hour weeks would be illegal in the UK
Someone wants to work 60-hour weeks at a 2-month temporary labor job for some cash. Do you want to arrest them for that? Or do you merely want to deny them that opportunity?
Maybe he will start with people who did not care when the Obama Administration used the IRS to "get back at people".
Lots of people don't remember the 19th century.
A country where people consider their political opponents "enemies" and where the leaders use government power to hurt them is not a country that can trust an agency like the NSA. And it's not a country that prioritizes the defense against foreign threats that the NSA was originally created to provide.
Yeah, once in a while someone will say something mean-spirted and you'll look expecting to see yet another leftist hater, but you'll be surprised to see a non-leftist. How about we stop giving haters a pass because they're on our team?
The whole story is bullshit whining about nothing, pushing a political agenda by pretending any of this is news. So yeah, all the talk about it spikes the bullshit meter.
It's weird how lefties hate Walmart for the same thing, but love amazon.
Hating Walmart is party-line obedience to union leaders. Plus classism. Amazon hasn't become a big focus for union organizers yet, and Amazon employs many members of the progressive tribe in The Seattle area. So they get a pass, for now.
None of this has ever had anything to do with actually caring about the employees of these companies.
I was told the economy in that area was great and that it would all be ruined by Brexit. If the economy is so terrific, how can Amazon find any unemployed people to work at their fulfillment centers?
Can Uber also be secretly run by vampires? These types of dramatic stories deserve a compelling villain -- so heroes like you don't have to save the world from people freely giving each other convenient, modestly-priced car rides.
Is Uber bad for employing people or for firing people? Make up your mind
Apparently there's nothing anyone could ever do (or not do) to avoid being condemned by you guys.
But seriously, lawsuits can't succeed without laws
Lawsuits succeed based on proving you were actually harmed and that the actual harm was wrongful. It takes very few laws and only a little enforcement. Local judges have been settling disputes between neighbors for many centuries.
none of my examples require imagination, they're real
You should have no problem proving them in court then. You don't need to police your neighbors' private actions because (unless you are a liar) you have proof that their actions aren't private and that they actually harmed you.
Everyone else who is minding their own business should have the opportunity to be safe from having their behavior policed.
If you have a legitimate complaint about your actual neighbors, file a lawsuit against them in your local courts. We don't need laws policing almost everything everyone does just because you make up stories about things you imagine someone might do.
Obviously, you don't quit your current job while looking for a new one. I feel like I should say "obviously" about 20 more times here, because of how you silly people can't seem to make your drama stories match reality at all.
Or just stop trying to police your neighbors' lives.
We should let these guys in government decide which news is "real" and which is "fake". Or, if you need a 1st Amendment workaround, hire Facebook and Google to decide.
Except it's just a job. It your employer is mean to you, you go find another job. Sure, that might take a few weeks or even a few months, but there's no other reasonable choice.
That's only if it's a genuine problem. If it's a dramatic story used to manipulate people, then you should make it more interesting. How about if Uber is secretly run by vampires?
Apparently Uber is the only hope these people have -- it's their savior. Otherwise they'd starve and die.
Government doesn't care about ordinary Americans. So government spending doesn't help ordinary Americans live longer, better lives. Only insiders benefit. The rest of us bear the burden.
Why?
Because some people want to spend money other people earned. Apple earned a lot. So time to imply Apple "unfairly" keeps their own money. You should support ending this "unfairness" by taking away Apple's money -- so the anointed people can spend it on themselves without the inconvenience of working and earning it.
No one is shouting anything. I just don't care to debate someone trying to redefine already poorly-defined, loose categorizations. I'm just happy now that absolutely anything can be described as "strongly right wing".
Perhaps we can all stop taking that nonsense seriously and talk about ideas rather than which box those ideas belong in -- they're all "strongly right wing" and "left wing" and probably also "moderate".
Sorry, what? I was distracted. I wanted to read something by Vladimir Lenin, so naturally I searched Google for "strong right wing" authors.
Are you saying Trump made up those stories? WTF?
A politician making up stories? Inconceivable!