Yes, indeed you do get what you pay for. And soemtimes you pay for pretty engineering and subsidize OS development.
Me, I built two Celeron 500-ish machines for about $1200 in 2000, while getting a couple hundred bucks for my iMac. I still have the original case off one, and the other system is someone's smoothwall box. Meanwhile I run an Athlon 3200+ and a play a mean game of Doom 3... and worry not about where to find the next two grand for a PowerMac tower.:)
*YAWN* I see this comment every time. One problem is that with the Dell you can put in any video card you want to run games. You cannot do that with an iMac.
I bought a Rev A. iMac, it was my sixth Apple computer. It was also my last. The thing was useless by 2000, when I wanted to use DVD-Roms or record CDs faster than 4x external USB. And play Diablo 2.
Apple couldn't include just an analog tuner. That would be a terrible idea. We're already in the second half of 2004; analog tuners will be junk in less than 30 months, well within the life-span of a computer like this.
Hahaha that's what I thought when I built my first PVR PC......in 2000!
Guess what, analog tuner will be junk in less than 30 months in the same way as (I deleted the analogy because it would be undoubtedly be modded offtopic and flamebait. Use your imagination?:)
Cue all the comments about 5200 geforce not being enough -- it's not meant for that.
They are advertising it as great for running games such as Doom III.
Granted we have not seen the OS X port of Doom III. However, Doom III is the most graphics-intensive game yet released. CPU does very little to drive performance in Doom III. The GeForce FX 5200 with 64 megs of videom memory, on a machine with 256 megs of system RAM, is going to do quite poorly, when you consider that my Athlon 3200 with a gig of RAM and a GeForce FX 5600/256 meg vid card pushes around 18 frames per second at 1024x768.
If you upgrade the RAM to 512, I am going to wager you can play Doom III on an iMac G5 at 640x480 emulated resolution, low quality. It won't look "unplayable," but it ain't gonna look like a G5 tower with a gig of RAM and a GeForce 6800, that's for damn sure.
And let me tell you, having just completed the game, the single-player experience is ALL ABOUT GRAPHICS QUALITY
I am not familiar with a time in my time as a banking customer or employee of a banking company when PINs were encoded on a magstrip. All ATM systems I have ever used compare an entered PIN with one on a secure, remote system.
I agree you should be able to see what's on a strip, but let's not get less knowledgeable people excited here, OK?
ThinkGeek is running a contest and taking nominations for some sort of biggest geek gets a prize or something. A summer intern is working with one of my co-workers who does end-user support. She told him the classic "user thinks CD-Rom drive tray is a cupholder" from the first person, and now he thinks she's a goddess. He submitted her name. (I snickered to myself.:)
Offtopic: When I hit "Read More" on this article initially, I got "Nothing to see here, move along!" Have never seen that or heard of it before. Can anyone tell me what's up?:)
For you and me, the guys that do the desktop support, it might be argued that a $725 tech watch requires "deep pockets."
However, I have a few friends here at work who are the senior engineer or executive types who are more into timepieces that cost several thousands of dollars, and receive bonuses regularly enough to afford them. (See the "Submariner" series.)
There are around 700 hate groups active in America and the majority of them are fundamentalist Christians; when's the last time you heard of agnostic racists burning a fucking question mark on somebody's lawn?
That is, quite possibly, the funniest line I've read on slashdot in over years years here. COMEDY GOLD and right on the point.
Thomas Jefferson also wanted every school to have a Bible in it. You still agree with TJ?
This one I can attach my name to. I absolutely agree that every school should have a Bible in it. Several copies in the library, with many other great books from history.
Even if you do not subscribe to the theology presented, the Bible provides a reference to a great many philosophies and historical persons and occurances that have relevance throughout cultures of the world, and across teh span of recorded history. Why in the world WOULDN'T such a book be in a school?
The problem occurs when the book is opened by an authority figure and presented as undeniable dogma to a group of children whose families choose to raise them how they want to. The core of Church and State. I don't understand why people do not understand why having a secular state is a bad idea!
Or it could also be considered "Insightful." Making an insight on a situation, or providing commentary on it, is what makes many enlightening conversations happen.
I guess it all depends if you agree with the comment or not, to come to the conclusion that it's a troll.
Wow, that was a visceral reaction!:) The unpopular speech remark was more a tongue-in-cheek commentary on government attitudes, not the war, the terrorist attacks, etc. Sorry about that, please see my clarification above. I don't believe he's being persecuted for unpopular speech, but I think that the unpopular speech adds to the reasons for the US to consider pushing hard for his extradition to face the charges he was accused of back then.
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Any generalized racial hatred is always a bad thing, anti-semitism included. Let's not forget that popular mindset in Europe right now appears to be that "Zionist Isreal crushing Palestinians is a very bad thing," and, less formally, "The US rails against 'religious extremists' (Muslims) while a good number of their people (fundamentalist Christians) seem to be equally as extreme."
I agree that to jail someone does not censor them, especially in the US. But do I believe that some element of the zealousness surrounding the press for extradition is punitive for his speech? Absolutely.:)
Unpopular speech is generally now, more than ever before, tolerated in our society and by our government. But there are still cases of dissenting public figures and private parties who seek to nullify the offending speech, either by discrediting the speaker or going as far as physical backlash.
You realise he's been on the lam for a very long time now, right? That not everything has 'the war' or 'Bushcroft' as a primary cause? That more people freely say much worse than he has every day and nothing happens to them, nor will happen to them?
Clarification: I apologize if you got the impression that I'm a weak-kneed, hippie liberal in opposition to the war. The comment was made quite tongue-in-cheek, to possibly stimulate some discussion here.
While it is true that I generally mistrust the work of Ashcroft, it is because I fear the net effects of his political work which seems to undercut civil liberties. (I consider myself largely Libertarian in mindset, except that I have never taken illegal drugs nor owned a handgun, so many of the vocal Libertarians have little use for my support.:)
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Kind of like busting Al Capone for tax evasion. The US has to bust him for playing in Yugoslavia in 1992 during sanctions, because since he's lost his mind he's been spreading all sorts of anti-US and anti-semitic propaganda around the world... even praising the 9/11 attacks. And we can't have things like unpopular speech going on during a war, eh?;)
Sad when a genius has his cheese slide off his cracker.
Quake 3 test came out on Mac before any other platform.
OK, good one! Now hang on just a second while I give you the list of 150 other titles in the last 5 years that came out for PC first, or PC EXLCUSIVELY... just give me your UserId or email address...
What??? I clicked your link and saw this and this. In most of these benchmarks, FX5200 beats the R9600SE by 40-200% framerate levels! That's the opposite of your point!
Now there is a big difference between a Radeon 9600 and a 9600SE. Are you sure you're not thinking of the regular 9600?
But MacOS users should be used to that word by now. (I can say that because I WAS one for 11 years:) MacOS is the superior OS, but you just can't touch WinXP for gaming, sorry.
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You don't buy a corporate PC to play games on.
And you don't buy a Mac for corporate use.
(Yes a few people do, just like a few people buy corporate PCs to run games on.)
Yes, indeed you do get what you pay for. And soemtimes you pay for pretty engineering and subsidize OS development.
... and worry not about where to find the next two grand for a PowerMac tower. :)
Me, I built two Celeron 500-ish machines for about $1200 in 2000, while getting a couple hundred bucks for my iMac. I still have the original case off one, and the other system is someone's smoothwall box. Meanwhile I run an Athlon 3200+ and a play a mean game of Doom 3
Yes, it's all about market share! That's why all the web server worms and virii are written for Apache!
Uh, we were talking about consumer virii and trojans, I think.
Nice way to change the subject though.
...and basic cable TV will be 100% digital by then?
:)
Even if it is, the set-top boxes wills till be putting out an RF signal that analog tuner can pick up.
Nobody is talking about over-the-air transmission here, as far as I'm concerned. Oh, except you.
more resistance to virii,
:)
Less exposure due to lack of viruses being written != more resistance.
Nobody writes Mac viruses when 95% of the user base is ripe and too dumb to know not to open attachments just because they offer free pr0n.
You must have that fancy 6 meg version of the video... ;)
*YAWN* I see this comment every time. One problem is that with the Dell you can put in any video card you want to run games. You cannot do that with an iMac.
I bought a Rev A. iMac, it was my sixth Apple computer. It was also my last. The thing was useless by 2000, when I wanted to use DVD-Roms or record CDs faster than 4x external USB. And play Diablo 2.
Apple couldn't include just an analog tuner. That would be a terrible idea. We're already in the second half of 2004; analog tuners will be junk in less than 30 months, well within the life-span of a computer like this.
...in 2000!
:)
Hahaha that's what I thought when I built my first PVR PC...
Guess what, analog tuner will be junk in less than 30 months in the same way as (I deleted the analogy because it would be undoubtedly be modded offtopic and flamebait. Use your imagination?
Cue all the comments about 5200 geforce not being enough -- it's not meant for that.
They are advertising it as great for running games such as Doom III.
Granted we have not seen the OS X port of Doom III. However, Doom III is the most graphics-intensive game yet released. CPU does very little to drive performance in Doom III. The GeForce FX 5200 with 64 megs of videom memory, on a machine with 256 megs of system RAM, is going to do quite poorly, when you consider that my Athlon 3200 with a gig of RAM and a GeForce FX 5600/256 meg vid card pushes around 18 frames per second at 1024x768.
If you upgrade the RAM to 512, I am going to wager you can play Doom III on an iMac G5 at 640x480 emulated resolution, low quality. It won't look "unplayable," but it ain't gonna look like a G5 tower with a gig of RAM and a GeForce 6800, that's for damn sure.
And let me tell you, having just completed the game, the single-player experience is ALL ABOUT GRAPHICS QUALITY
All social security does is steal from my feature
Future? Hell, they're stealing my MY present! I see it in my paycheck every two weeks...
I am not familiar with a time in my time as a banking customer or employee of a banking company when PINs were encoded on a magstrip. All ATM systems I have ever used compare an entered PIN with one on a secure, remote system.
I agree you should be able to see what's on a strip, but let's not get less knowledgeable people excited here, OK?
ThinkGeek is running a contest and taking nominations for some sort of biggest geek gets a prize or something. A summer intern is working with one of my co-workers who does end-user support. She told him the classic "user thinks CD-Rom drive tray is a cupholder" from the first person, and now he thinks she's a goddess. He submitted her name. (I snickered to myself. :)
:)
Offtopic: When I hit "Read More" on this article initially, I got "Nothing to see here, move along!" Have never seen that or heard of it before. Can anyone tell me what's up?
For you and me, the guys that do the desktop support, it might be argued that a $725 tech watch requires "deep pockets."
However, I have a few friends here at work who are the senior engineer or executive types who are more into timepieces that cost several thousands of dollars, and receive bonuses regularly enough to afford them. (See the "Submariner" series.)
Just thought I would share.
There are around 700 hate groups active in America and the majority of them are fundamentalist Christians; when's the last time you heard of agnostic racists burning a fucking question mark on somebody's lawn?
:)
That is, quite possibly, the funniest line I've read on slashdot in over years years here. COMEDY GOLD and right on the point.
Thank you for that!
Thomas Jefferson also wanted every school to have a Bible in it. You still agree with TJ?
This one I can attach my name to. I absolutely agree that every school should have a Bible in it. Several copies in the library, with many other great books from history.
Even if you do not subscribe to the theology presented, the Bible provides a reference to a great many philosophies and historical persons and occurances that have relevance throughout cultures of the world, and across teh span of recorded history. Why in the world WOULDN'T such a book be in a school?
The problem occurs when the book is opened by an authority figure and presented as undeniable dogma to a group of children whose families choose to raise them how they want to. The core of Church and State. I don't understand why people do not understand why having a secular state is a bad idea!
Or it could also be considered "Insightful." Making an insight on a situation, or providing commentary on it, is what makes many enlightening conversations happen.
I guess it all depends if you agree with the comment or not, to come to the conclusion that it's a troll.
Wow, that was a visceral reaction! :) The unpopular speech remark was more a tongue-in-cheek commentary on government attitudes, not the war, the terrorist attacks, etc. Sorry about that, please see my clarification above. I don't believe he's being persecuted for unpopular speech, but I think that the unpopular speech adds to the reasons for the US to consider pushing hard for his extradition to face the charges he was accused of back then.
Any generalized racial hatred is always a bad thing, anti-semitism included. Let's not forget that popular mindset in Europe right now appears to be that "Zionist Isreal crushing Palestinians is a very bad thing," and, less formally, "The US rails against 'religious extremists' (Muslims) while a good number of their people (fundamentalist Christians) seem to be equally as extreme."
At least that's my take on it.
I agree that to jail someone does not censor them, especially in the US. But do I believe that some element of the zealousness surrounding the press for extradition is punitive for his speech? Absolutely. :)
Unpopular speech is generally now, more than ever before, tolerated in our society and by our government. But there are still cases of dissenting public figures and private parties who seek to nullify the offending speech, either by discrediting the speaker or going as far as physical backlash.
You realise he's been on the lam for a very long time now, right? That not everything has 'the war' or 'Bushcroft' as a primary cause? That more people freely say much worse than he has every day and nothing happens to them, nor will happen to them?
:)
Clarification:
I apologize if you got the impression that I'm a weak-kneed, hippie liberal in opposition to the war. The comment was made quite tongue-in-cheek, to possibly stimulate some discussion here.
While it is true that I generally mistrust the work of Ashcroft, it is because I fear the net effects of his political work which seems to undercut civil liberties. (I consider myself largely Libertarian in mindset, except that I have never taken illegal drugs nor owned a handgun, so many of the vocal Libertarians have little use for my support.
Kind of like busting Al Capone for tax evasion. The US has to bust him for playing in Yugoslavia in 1992 during sanctions, because since he's lost his mind he's been spreading all sorts of anti-US and anti-semitic propaganda around the world... even praising the 9/11 attacks. And we can't have things like unpopular speech going on during a war, eh? ;)
Sad when a genius has his cheese slide off his cracker.
For what it's worth I care. :)
You're an idiot.
Quake 3 test came out on Mac before any other platform.
OK, good one! Now hang on just a second while I give you the list of 150 other titles in the last 5 years that came out for PC first, or PC EXLCUSIVELY... just give me your UserId or email address...
What??? I clicked your link and saw this and this. In most of these benchmarks, FX5200 beats the R9600SE by 40-200% framerate levels! That's the opposite of your point!
Now there is a big difference between a Radeon 9600 and a 9600SE. Are you sure you're not thinking of the regular 9600?
Yes, there is a word, and it's "later."
But MacOS users should be used to that word by now. (I can say that because I WAS one for 11 years