Rather than think of it as protecting people from themselves, think of it as protecting the weak from the powerful. Women are in some cases subjugated by men. And then there's the whole poverty, addiction, prostitution cycle.
All of that said, some of the reason we're running into this is because of problems that society isn't willing to handle. You can start with the horribly bungled handling of poverty in the U.S., which seems to have been designed to promote bad social values and create a perpetual client class.
I don't think this is going to have any serious effect on Craigslist. They are just changing the name of the service and putting reviewers in place.
We should look at why these sorts of services run into trouble with the law. The reasons run from good to terrible.
These ads lead to exploitation of children by pimps? If so, good reason.
These ads lead to exploitation of women by pimps? I had heard the internet had largely done away with pimps because sex workers can market themselves. Is that so?
These ads lead to murder and mayhem. But then again, that has been happening with Craigslist used-car ads - what better way to lure a victim to bring a roll of cash?
These ads lead to disease?
A supernatural being postulated by your religion has given you rules about sex that you feel should apply to everyone. Bad reason.
it would actually take more work to retrofit the existing plants than to build new ones, and you know what building new power plants in the USA is like if you're been following the news.
This is actually more an issue of building power plants on new sites. If you want to tear down an old plant and put a new, quieter, less polluting, one on the same site, this is more welcome. I also see that Calpine has been putting up "peakers" in California, see their project sheet. There's one just off of Highway 237 at 880 in Milpitas. It's small, clean (natural gas), and only runs when necessary.
Can we solve the power-waste problem on the same time-scale as building the algae fields you propose? I think so.
I said "use our extra power", not "use the additional power produced".
Yes, I understand. I am rejecting the concept that we actually have extra power.
It can take days to heat up other types of power plants. It's simply not feasible to "turn them off" when they're not being used.
Yes. But this is not an unavoidable problem in energy production, it's a problem of old design assumptions not applying to today's needs. Fossil fuel and nuclear power plants are designed to run flat out, continuously, and exact a high cost for intermittent operation. There is also the fatigue on metals caused by thermal cycling. I submit that this is not an insoluble problem, and is more a result of designs that are not tremendously changed since James Watt.
I'm just responding to the obvious thermodynamic problem of using plant-derived power as the power input to plant growth. If we have surplus electricity, that means we're managing a resource poorly. Stop burning the plants. If we have night-time surplus electricity from something other than wind power or hydro we can't stop because the reservoir will overflow, shut that off too.
If I wanted to discredit you, I'd be much more vitriolic.
row craploads of algae in the desert, and use our extra power to run arc lamps to provide light at night to extend the photoperiod and thus speed up the growth cycle.
Instead of doing this, why don't we grow rats, and have cats eat them. Then we harvest some of the cats, and kill the others to feed to the rats.
I use the open Kingwin sledless enclosure without the fan, rather than the closed one with the fan. It gets cooling from airflow within the box. I gave one problem location its own fan, but a large one running at low speed and making no noise. If a computer breaks, I can have its hard drive in another computer within a few minutes.
60 GHz is a great frequency for local communications. It is attenuated by passage through the air, in addition to the usual square-law attenuation over distance, and thus your LAN won't be interfering with everyone else's LAN and with long-distance wireless users in the band. Although the ISM band currently used for 802.11b, g, and n is sort of a garbage band, with microwave ovens and so on sharing the frequencies, it has long-range potential (wifi links in the hundreds of miles are possible by line of sight and big dishes) and thus should really be used for what it's suited for.
Had Slashdot been handling the story well, there would have been a link to the (easily available) PDF right at the top. I read it pretty early in the discussion.
But then, the discussion exposes a difference I've noticed before. I am bringing up my child to be an adult. That means that he should, at some point, be fully equipped to handle all of the various challenges that adults are faced with. So, he has, for example, tasted wine (he thinks at his age that it tastes like poison) and knows that it is no forbidden fruit that need exert a special attraction on him. I will refrain from explaining other similar situations to the Slashdot audience.
Some folks who actually saw the PDF were scandalized that I would show it to a child. I wonder if they are going to show their kids out of their front door at 18 with no tools whatsoever to handle certain situations that they are almost certain to encounter.
I think you are allowed to refuse a breathalizer in some jurisdictions. If you do, they take you to get a blood draw immediately, and charge you based on the amount of alcohol measured in your blood. I don't know how they measure it.
16 MEGS! What luxury. As an early Debian developer, I think I had 4 megs in my system. I remember working a month to make the install disk boot from one floppy.
I would wager one year's income that 9 out of 10 people (my definition of "laymen") would not be able to.
Yeah, because they've never learned words like "cloture". But that's the framework that they function in every day, even if they don't think about it much. Nobody taught me that either, I guess I just took the trouble to learn.
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That's the common carrier rule. I don't think we can make a case that blogs are common carriers. So, they're liable.
I don't think they can make a case that they were a common carrier. Nor can any blog operator. So, they were liable before, too.
Nobody seems to have gotten the joke.
So, they can do it, they just can't meet, then.
No going on dates in public either, eh? Because dates often turn into sex. At least mine did.
Maybe you need to adjust your requirements some more.
She and I were standing on the earth, which was moving around the sun at 67,000 miles per hour. We struggled to make our lips meet...
Like this: JENNY GAVE ME CRAB LICE! DON'T CALL 867-5309!
I bet there's a site like that right now.
Rather than think of it as protecting people from themselves, think of it as protecting the weak from the powerful. Women are in some cases subjugated by men. And then there's the whole poverty, addiction, prostitution cycle.
All of that said, some of the reason we're running into this is because of problems that society isn't willing to handle. You can start with the horribly bungled handling of poverty in the U.S., which seems to have been designed to promote bad social values and create a perpetual client class.
I don't think this is going to have any serious effect on Craigslist. They are just changing the name of the service and putting reviewers in place.
We should look at why these sorts of services run into trouble with the law. The reasons run from good to terrible.
When someone sticks a flower in my face, I really have to overcome an urge to deck them. It's as if they've never heard of allergies.
This is actually more an issue of building power plants on new sites. If you want to tear down an old plant and put a new, quieter, less polluting, one on the same site, this is more welcome. I also see that Calpine has been putting up "peakers" in California, see their project sheet. There's one just off of Highway 237 at 880 in Milpitas. It's small, clean (natural gas), and only runs when necessary.
Can we solve the power-waste problem on the same time-scale as building the algae fields you propose? I think so.
Yes, I understand. I am rejecting the concept that we actually have extra power.
Yes. But this is not an unavoidable problem in energy production, it's a problem of old design assumptions not applying to today's needs. Fossil fuel and nuclear power plants are designed to run flat out, continuously, and exact a high cost for intermittent operation. There is also the fatigue on metals caused by thermal cycling. I submit that this is not an insoluble problem, and is more a result of designs that are not tremendously changed since James Watt.
If I wanted to discredit you, I'd be much more vitriolic.
Instead of doing this, why don't we grow rats, and have cats eat them. Then we harvest some of the cats, and kill the others to feed to the rats.
I use the open Kingwin sledless enclosure without the fan, rather than the closed one with the fan. It gets cooling from airflow within the box. I gave one problem location its own fan, but a large one running at low speed and making no noise. If a computer breaks, I can have its hard drive in another computer within a few minutes.
60 GHz is a great frequency for local communications. It is attenuated by passage through the air, in addition to the usual square-law attenuation over distance, and thus your LAN won't be interfering with everyone else's LAN and with long-distance wireless users in the band. Although the ISM band currently used for 802.11b, g, and n is sort of a garbage band, with microwave ovens and so on sharing the frequencies, it has long-range potential (wifi links in the hundreds of miles are possible by line of sight and big dishes) and thus should really be used for what it's suited for.
Do you at least have deer whistles? When I was a kid, I could hear those things a block away.
What we really need are cowcatchers, like on trains, so that the pedestrians don't get stuck under the wheels and jam them. :-)
Doctors can write prescriptions for experimental drugs.
Had Slashdot been handling the story well, there would have been a link to the (easily available) PDF right at the top. I read it pretty early in the discussion.
But then, the discussion exposes a difference I've noticed before. I am bringing up my child to be an adult. That means that he should, at some point, be fully equipped to handle all of the various challenges that adults are faced with. So, he has, for example, tasted wine (he thinks at his age that it tastes like poison) and knows that it is no forbidden fruit that need exert a special attraction on him. I will refrain from explaining other similar situations to the Slashdot audience.
Some folks who actually saw the PDF were scandalized that I would show it to a child. I wonder if they are going to show their kids out of their front door at 18 with no tools whatsoever to handle certain situations that they are almost certain to encounter.
Bruce
Sure, there's some really high quality embedded code out there. There's also a lot of "good enough, never touched again after first shipment" code.
If you refuse the breathalizer, they take your blood instead. I suspect that if you fail the breathalizer, they try to take your blood as well.
I think you are allowed to refuse a breathalizer in some jurisdictions. If you do, they take you to get a blood draw immediately, and charge you based on the amount of alcohol measured in your blood. I don't know how they measure it.
16 MEGS! What luxury. As an early Debian developer, I think I had 4 megs in my system. I remember working a month to make the install disk boot from one floppy.
Yeah, because they've never learned words like "cloture". But that's the framework that they function in every day, even if they don't think about it much. Nobody taught me that either, I guess I just took the trouble to learn.
It means that all states will have to raise standards for the embedded code in those things. Embedded code often really stinks.