http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/capitalism "an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market"
A capitalist economic system effects the political sphere, of course, but it is not in and of itself a political system.
Re your argument: not all forms of control are politics. I control my dog but that's not a political system. You argument requires that all forms of control are forms of government but this is false therefore your argument is invalid.
I get the vibe that most people commenting don't see the need to be informed by the article before blessing us with their opinion. Your summary is a good TL;DR for those lazy souls, however.:o)
What I find most disturbing in all of this is the rabid brand loyalty (brainwashing?) on display. I don't get the apple/iPhone fans with their "mine is still better" and "Samsung is just junk" responses - when Samsung supplies the hardware for the iPhone in the first place!
I don't own a smartphone nor any Samsung or Apple computers. I don't care about either of these companies. But I do care about the tech world and I'm very disturbed to see mega corps using patents as a cudgel to prevent competition. Apple's approach is antithetical to a free market and to technological innovation. I find it extremely distasteful and if I ever did want to get a smartphone, this recent episode would be enough to put me off Apple. I like companies that compete by being the best, not by having the most lawyers.
Java was a popular programming language before it was chosen for Android, unlike Objective-c. If Apple had chosen C or C++ people wouldn't have made a big deal of it.
Moron. What's interesting is that this is a full JIT JVM, not just a bytecode engine like Dalvik. There have been JVMs in the ARM space for ages, but not JIT JVMs and not the the standard JVM either.
But whatever, just spread FUD and ignorance if that's easier for you.
The answer to the question "Who believes UN governance will result in improvement?" will give a lot of insight into the motives behind transferring control to a UN agency. My immediate suspicions include: the copyright cartels, repressive governments, and telecoms/tier 1's seeking to create international monopolies
How about citizens from the rest of the world who would like the Internet controlled by a body that we actually have some say in?
I mean, just take Europeans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Japanese, Koreans. This sub-group of Internet users collectively outnumber US citizens by a large number. They all add a lot to the Internet. Why should they be dictated to by the US? Why should they be denied a voice in how the most important technology of our age (which is of vital importance to modern business) is run?
2) Led by the UN = most of the UN members are crooks, dictators, religious extremists, military leaders who killed the civilian leaders to gain control, basically the scum of the non-business society so its basically dictator-net. Expect lots of censorship and control around killing all dissenters and forcing one lunatic religions beliefs upon people of other lunatic religious beliefs (or non-beliefs)
What. The. Fuck?
Most of the UN members are THE ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD YOU INBRED MYOPIC FUCK.
And for the fucking record, where I live has a better record on censorship, corruption, press freedom and human rights abuses than the US.
Yeah, I've come to that conclusion. I usually assume that I'm talking to someone rational until they prove otherwise as gweihir has done. I'm done responding to him.
My emotional response is purely due to the fact that I find arrogant fuck-wits like you detestable. Your attitude revolts me. Your small minded world view represents all that is worst in humanity.
And you are clearly and instance of this problem, namely people that do not understand languages are critical for implementation quality ans success. Industry adoption is no useful measure for that.
I do suspect most people being defensive about Java are one-trick-ponies, i.e. people that do not know more than Java and have never learned to program. Sorry, but knowing Java and knowing how to program are two very much different things.
I see. You confirmed what I asserted elsewhere - you are the kind of arrogant fuck that assumes that people who like Java must be morons who know nothing else.
I've been programming for 30 fucking years you supercilious know-it-all cunt.
I've used C, C++, Java, Assembler (68k & 8088), Lisp, Erlang, Pascal, Python, Ruby, Perl, Haskell, C#, Delphi, BASIC, Javascript, VBScript (yuk) and countless other languages, technologies and systems besides.
I am no one-trick-pony. I don't know everything about coding - even now, I find out something new from one of our grads or a workmate, but I don't EVER assume that because someone likes something that I don't that they therefore know nothing at all.
You are an arrogant fuck, a troll and a perfect illustration of the kind of programming language bigot that slashdot is infected with. Your assumptions about me are offensive, wrong and a million miles off base.
Look, I know and use a large number of other languages as well - I've been coding for thirty years. I only state the C/C++ understanding so that people don't assume that because I like Java that that's all I know - which with Java haters seems to be the natural assumption: everyone who likes Java is automatically a moron that's never used another language and doesn't know any better. I notice your sentence about treating "one-size-fits-all coders with the derision they frankly deserve" that suggests that you have made a similarly arrogant (and wrong) assumption about me.
When I talk about "Getting Shit Done" I mean that it's a productive tool for getting actual work done in some actual real-world context. Nowhere at all did I suggest that it's the right tool for all jobs.
You made a lot of incorrect and offensive assumptions about my attitude towards software engineering purely because I said that Java wasn't all hype. That's pretty shitty, really.
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Only half of my post was pointing out that you are wrong by definition.
I also pointed out that your argument was structurally invalid. Did you miss that bit?
Both of those issues make you wrong and at least the latter involved me "using my head".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalism
"Capitalism is an economic system..."
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/capitalism
"an economic system characterized by private or corporate ownership of capital goods, by investments that are determined by private decision, and by prices, production, and the distribution of goods that are determined mainly by competition in a free market"
A capitalist economic system effects the political sphere, of course, but it is not in and of itself a political system.
Re your argument: not all forms of control are politics. I control my dog but that's not a political system. You argument requires that all forms of control are forms of government but this is false therefore your argument is invalid.
Capitalism is NOT a form of government, it is an economic system.
Rubbish. That's idealised Libertarianism, not Capitalism.
I get the vibe that most people commenting don't see the need to be informed by the article before blessing us with their opinion. Your summary is a good TL;DR for those lazy souls, however. :o)
So here's a crazy idea: read the fucking article before adding you ill-informed comments.
Good. You stop taking foreign students - the US too. The rest of the western world will be glad to take all your pesky foreigners.
What I find most disturbing in all of this is the rabid brand loyalty (brainwashing?) on display. I don't get the apple/iPhone fans with their "mine is still better" and "Samsung is just junk" responses - when Samsung supplies the hardware for the iPhone in the first place!
I don't own a smartphone nor any Samsung or Apple computers. I don't care about either of these companies. But I do care about the tech world and I'm very disturbed to see mega corps using patents as a cudgel to prevent competition. Apple's approach is antithetical to a free market and to technological innovation. I find it extremely distasteful and if I ever did want to get a smartphone, this recent episode would be enough to put me off Apple. I like companies that compete by being the best, not by having the most lawyers.
Yeah, I'm sure it's impossible to improve on the situation that the US Patents office has given the world.
I have a d1 but it's a bit of a let down - the result is never all that much of a surprise
So... you agree then that no-one else is using Obj-c?
Obj-C is behind C, C++ (and Java) on the Tiobe index. Javascript, however, ranks way way lower than I believe it should.
Java was a popular programming language before it was chosen for Android, unlike Objective-c. If Apple had chosen C or C++ people wouldn't have made a big deal of it.
It's not an either/or situation - paying for an iPad doesn't mean that Apple stops advertising.
Moron. What's interesting is that this is a full JIT JVM, not just a bytecode engine like Dalvik. There have been JVMs in the ARM space for ages, but not JIT JVMs and not the the standard JVM either.
But whatever, just spread FUD and ignorance if that's easier for you.
FUD
New Zealand has freedom of speech and ranks higher in press freedom and lower in corruption than the US. Does that mean we should run everything?
The answer to the question "Who believes UN governance will result in improvement?" will give a lot of insight into the motives behind transferring control to a UN agency. My immediate suspicions include: the copyright cartels, repressive governments, and telecoms/tier 1's seeking to create international monopolies
How about citizens from the rest of the world who would like the Internet controlled by a body that we actually have some say in?
I mean, just take Europeans, Canadians, Australians, New Zealanders, Japanese, Koreans. This sub-group of Internet users collectively outnumber US citizens by a large number. They all add a lot to the Internet. Why should they be dictated to by the US? Why should they be denied a voice in how the most important technology of our age (which is of vital importance to modern business) is run?
2) Led by the UN = most of the UN members are crooks, dictators, religious extremists, military leaders who killed the civilian leaders to gain control, basically the scum of the non-business society so its basically dictator-net. Expect lots of censorship and control around killing all dissenters and forcing one lunatic religions beliefs upon people of other lunatic religious beliefs (or non-beliefs)
What. The. Fuck?
Most of the UN members are THE ENTIRE REST OF THE WORLD YOU INBRED MYOPIC FUCK.
And for the fucking record, where I live has a better record on censorship, corruption, press freedom and human rights abuses than the US.
" it's faster than Python or Bash. And sometimes not even that if you include JIT time."
TROLL.
what is a fanboi?
heh :o)
Yeah, I've come to that conclusion. I usually assume that I'm talking to someone rational until they prove otherwise as gweihir has done. I'm done responding to him.
My emotional response is purely due to the fact that I find arrogant fuck-wits like you detestable. Your attitude revolts me. Your small minded world view represents all that is worst in humanity.
This is the last post I will waste on you.
I see. You confirmed what I asserted elsewhere - you are the kind of arrogant fuck that assumes that people who like Java must be morons who know nothing else.
I've been programming for 30 fucking years you supercilious know-it-all cunt.
I've used C, C++, Java, Assembler (68k & 8088), Lisp, Erlang, Pascal, Python, Ruby, Perl, Haskell, C#, Delphi, BASIC, Javascript, VBScript (yuk) and countless other languages, technologies and systems besides.
I am no one-trick-pony. I don't know everything about coding - even now, I find out something new from one of our grads or a workmate, but I don't EVER assume that because someone likes something that I don't that they therefore know nothing at all.
You are an arrogant fuck, a troll and a perfect illustration of the kind of programming language bigot that slashdot is infected with. Your assumptions about me are offensive, wrong and a million miles off base.
Oooh a dick measuring competition! Wow!
Look, I know and use a large number of other languages as well - I've been coding for thirty years. I only state the C/C++ understanding so that people don't assume that because I like Java that that's all I know - which with Java haters seems to be the natural assumption: everyone who likes Java is automatically a moron that's never used another language and doesn't know any better. I notice your sentence about treating "one-size-fits-all coders with the derision they frankly deserve" that suggests that you have made a similarly arrogant (and wrong) assumption about me.
When I talk about "Getting Shit Done" I mean that it's a productive tool for getting actual work done in some actual real-world context. Nowhere at all did I suggest that it's the right tool for all jobs.
You made a lot of incorrect and offensive assumptions about my attitude towards software engineering purely because I said that Java wasn't all hype. That's pretty shitty, really.