...if you can't even figure out how to route around the idiocy of the agencies.
If you trust your fate to the junior-college dropout who scans keywords, you get what you deserve. Try showing a little initiative.
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Who do you think they hire to process resumes, Nobel laureates? These people aren't rocket scientists. They're paid $30k a year to scan resumes for key words.
Learn to play the game or get left behind.
The suits were the geeks till they wised up
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Ellison, Gates, etc. - all started as programmers.
Then they realized that hacking code for 20 years is a hard luck post, and a game for the young.
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It should when I don't have a copy of Word available to me.
Then make one you moron.
Otherwise be prepared for someone who does bother to accomodate the HR people, to get the job.
You can chant "Windoze sucks" from the pogey line.
If you really want the job, than the fact that the recruiter uses Word shouldn't bother you too much. I mean, come on, deal with it.
The working world is full of comprimises that are going to befuddle those new to it. Wait until you try on office politics - its not who you know, its who you blow, kiddo.
Almost anyone who has little knowledge of computers has to call in someone once in a while to fix problems, no matter what the OS. If Linux is set up right to begin with (just the way vendors set up preinstalled Win98), there's no reason a Linux user can't do whatever they could do in Windows.
Huh??
How do you "set up" linux right so a new user can add a printer without reaming through mountains of docs?
This is but one example of a simple task that is difficult on unix.
Everyone gives me the same line - "if linux is oncifgured correctly" - yet no one defines this configuration.
Its so refreshing to hear someone on Slashdot admit the obvious - linux is an excellent server OS for people who know what they are doing. Otherwise, there are better tools.
The typical "linux r0lz!" banter in here gets very tiring - mostly it demonstrates how inexperienced the posters are.
I cannot believe you can put a newbie at a bash prompt and get him productive.
KDE? Yeah, Maybe they are productive at using Netscape, but that's about it.
Ask your newbie friends to simply find a file for you on the system. Maybe after twelve hours of looking at the monitor they'll come along the sinister "find" command. Maybe.
I (the original poster) have also been using linux on a laptop for about six months. It sucks! THe linux cardmgr module hangs. X (the commercial server for laptops from Xi) craps out the display after exiting. Other problems too.
Unfortunately, Be needs to become more internet-aware. I know it is fully TCP/IP compliant, but it needs a Java environment, and a better browser. Actually, I am not a Be expert so I do not know specifically how deficient their browser is, but I'm assuming it isn't up to snuff with Netscape 4.x (not that that is a very high standard).
I'm seriously considering trying Be. I could care less about whether I can read the source or not.
Installing linux is simple. Administering it is a hassle.
Linuxconf??? Hahaha.
The underlying OS is generally not all that important to Joe User.
It is if they can't figure out why the hell some obscure flag set in/etc keeps them from doing something.
However, when something goes wrong, and they call their Brother/Father
Yes, that's the general rule of adminstering unix - get someone to help you. That's the problem! Home users don't want to have to call in a child prodigy with a Jolt addiction to get things done.
Windoze sucks, yes its true, but unix (ALL unix) most seriously sucks as well.
Unix is without a doubt the most hostile computing environment in use today. You simply cannot throw Joe citizen at a unix machine and expect any success. If you're ahppy with leaving unix as an enterprise serving OS, that's fine, then lets drop all this unix-as-a-windows-killer garbage.
Linux belongs to millions of people. Hence, it will always serve a million masters - hence it will most likely never be much more than it is today - a great platform for serving open standard network services.
Wow, they sure did make Steve Jobs look like a real prick. Then again, Jobs, Gates, Ellison, Ballmer all have reputations for being dicks. They're also all very rich. Is this a pettern? Haha I'm not sure - I've been a dick for years and I'm still broke.
Noah played Jobs very well - the obsessiveness, and the general flakiness.
Anthony had Gates' speech and physcial presence (slouching) down very well also.
This was a pretty good movie - it brought to the public the fact that both Microsoft and Apple stole from Xerox - a fact that escapes most people who think Apple invented the GUI.
So far linux has captured an incredible amount of hype, far more hype than you would suspect a free knock-off of a 25 year-old OS to get (although most linux groupies seem to think linus invented unix), but the only task it has truly demonstrated proficiency at is as a server for internet services (mail, www, ftp, etc.).
(Before I go on, let me say I am a linux user so my criticisms don't come from being "bought by M$" - I don't use Microsoft products.)
Criticisms:
If you're waiting for linux to "arrive" on the desktop, don't hold your breath. The linux world can't even agree on a GUI toolkit. Apps, I mean "real" apps people actually want to buy, not just crappy Office knock-offs, are nearly nonexistant.
Linux is a crappy mutlimedia platform.
Linux is still nearly impossible for most inexperienced users to administer.
Linux barely works on laptops.
Linux distros are fragmenting an already fragmented unix market (common users don't know and don't care about the LSB - all they see is ten different products claiming to be linux).
So...
If you want to serve web content or run email or ftp services in a cost effective manner, linux is an incredible value. Otherwise, its the wrong tool for the job.
Yes but in these other countries the control is overt - its obvious information is being controlled. This is sloppy propoganda.
You probably don't even realize how "cleansed" your morning paper is here. Its certainly done more insidiously here. Most Americans don't even suspect it.
As Chomsky points out, regimes like the Soviet Union ruled directly by force - in America, propoganda is used to control people. No other country engages in such dubious exercises in public disinformation and misinformation as the US.
I don't mean filtering, I mean altering and filtering of content so you only think you're free.
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Its a message board you moron. People come here to sound off.
You can lump yourself into the same category...read your own post. At least I assign a name to mine.
How many times do we have to go through this?
Why not set up "flamewars.slashdot.org", where people can debate GPL vs. BSD, KDE vs GNOME, RedHat vs. Debian etc etc until they are blue in the face.
As usual, 99% of responses will be from fanboys who can't even find the source code on their boxes.
Oh give it a rest. If you can't figure out how to find the unix download you're too retarded to be here.
Microsoft wasn't even mentioned in the article.
Its high time that "If M$ gets a hold of it/You're an M$ flunky" type responses should get the same treatment as "First post!".
...if you can't even figure out how to route around the idiocy of the agencies.
If you trust your fate to the junior-college dropout who scans keywords, you get what you deserve. Try showing a little initiative.
Who do you think they hire to process resumes, Nobel laureates? These people aren't rocket scientists. They're paid $30k a year to scan resumes for key words.
Learn to play the game or get left behind.
Ellison, Gates, etc. - all started as programmers.
Then they realized that hacking code for 20 years is a hard luck post, and a game for the young.
It should when I don't have a copy of Word available to me.
Then make one you moron.
Otherwise be prepared for someone who does bother to accomodate the HR people, to get the job.
You can chant "Windoze sucks" from the pogey line.
If you really want the job, than the fact that the recruiter uses Word shouldn't bother you too much. I mean, come on, deal with it.
The working world is full of comprimises that are going to befuddle those new to it. Wait until you try on office politics - its not who you know, its who you blow, kiddo.
S3 has had problems recently - maybe they are raiding the company war chest to shore up their position. If you've got it, spend it.
What the hell are you talking about?
I'm discussing specific application problems with linux on laptops that other people have reported.
Is that not "valid" enough for you?
That's why I asked the question you moron.
Gee, thanks mom, I feel all better now.
Almost anyone who has little knowledge of computers has to call in someone once in a while to fix problems, no matter what the OS. If Linux is set up right to begin with (just the way vendors set up preinstalled Win98), there's no reason a Linux user can't do whatever they could do in Windows.
Huh??
How do you "set up" linux right so a new user can add a printer without reaming through mountains of docs?
This is but one example of a simple task that is difficult on unix.
Everyone gives me the same line - "if linux is oncifgured correctly" - yet no one defines this configuration.
Its so refreshing to hear someone on Slashdot admit the obvious - linux is an excellent server OS for people who know what they are doing. Otherwise, there are better tools.
The typical "linux r0lz!" banter in here gets very tiring - mostly it demonstrates how inexperienced the posters are.
I cannot believe you can put a newbie at a bash prompt and get him productive.
KDE? Yeah, Maybe they are productive at using Netscape, but that's about it.
Ask your newbie friends to simply find a file for you on the system. Maybe after twelve hours of looking at the monitor they'll come along the sinister "find" command. Maybe.
I (the original poster) have also been using linux on a laptop for about six months. It sucks! THe linux cardmgr module hangs. X (the commercial server for laptops from Xi) craps out the display after exiting. Other problems too.
Unfortunately, Be needs to become more internet-aware. I know it is fully TCP/IP compliant, but it needs a Java environment, and a better browser. Actually, I am not a Be expert so I do not know specifically how deficient their browser is, but I'm assuming it isn't up to snuff with Netscape 4.x (not that that is a very high standard).
I'm seriously considering trying Be. I could care less about whether I can read the source or not.
ARRGGGH!!!
/etc keeps them from doing something.
When are people going to realize that
INSTALLING LINUX != ADMINSTERING LINUX
Installing linux is simple. Administering it is a hassle.
Linuxconf??? Hahaha.
The underlying OS is generally not all that important to Joe User.
It is if they can't figure out why the hell some obscure flag set in
However, when something goes wrong, and they call their Brother/Father
Yes, that's the general rule of adminstering unix - get someone to help you. That's the problem! Home users don't want to have to call in a child prodigy with a Jolt addiction to get things done.
Windoze sucks, yes its true, but unix (ALL unix) most seriously sucks as well.
Unix is without a doubt the most hostile computing environment in use today. You simply cannot throw Joe citizen at a unix machine and expect any success. If you're ahppy with leaving unix as an enterprise serving OS, that's fine, then lets drop all this unix-as-a-windows-killer garbage.
Linux belongs to millions of people. Hence, it will always serve a million masters - hence it will most likely never be much more than it is today - a great platform for serving open standard network services.
Wow, they sure did make Steve Jobs look like a real prick. Then again, Jobs, Gates, Ellison, Ballmer all have reputations for being dicks. They're also all very rich. Is this a pettern? Haha I'm not sure - I've been a dick for years and I'm still broke.
Noah played Jobs very well - the obsessiveness, and the general flakiness.
Anthony had Gates' speech and physcial presence (slouching) down very well also.
This was a pretty good movie - it brought to the public the fact that both Microsoft and Apple stole from Xerox - a fact that escapes most people who think Apple invented the GUI.
So far linux has captured an incredible amount of hype, far more hype than you would suspect a free knock-off of a 25 year-old OS to get (although most linux groupies seem to think linus invented unix), but the only task it has truly demonstrated proficiency at is as a server for internet services (mail, www, ftp, etc.).
(Before I go on, let me say I am a linux user so my criticisms don't come from being "bought by M$" - I don't use Microsoft products.)
Criticisms:
If you're waiting for linux to "arrive" on the desktop, don't hold your breath. The linux world can't even agree on a GUI toolkit. Apps, I mean "real" apps people actually want to buy, not just crappy Office knock-offs, are nearly nonexistant.
Linux is a crappy mutlimedia platform.
Linux is still nearly impossible for most inexperienced users to administer.
Linux barely works on laptops.
Linux distros are fragmenting an already fragmented unix market (common users don't know and don't care about the LSB - all they see is ten different products claiming to be linux).
So...
If you want to serve web content or run email or ftp services in a cost effective manner, linux is an incredible value. Otherwise, its the wrong tool for the job.
Yes but in these other countries the control is overt - its obvious information is being controlled. This is sloppy propoganda.
You probably don't even realize how "cleansed" your morning paper is here. Its certainly done more insidiously here. Most Americans don't even suspect it.
As Chomsky points out, regimes like the Soviet Union ruled directly by force - in America, propoganda is used to control people. No other country engages in such dubious exercises in public disinformation and misinformation as the US.
I don't mean filtering, I mean altering and filtering of content so you only think you're free.
cuz its where i do all my free porn surfing.
i like a seat in the corner where i can get my hands in my shorts and really enjoy the show.
when someone takes that seat i think "the nerve! taking a seat in perv row to do legit research!"
when was the last time someone invoked free speech to actually defend speech? more like the freedom to show off 15-year old pussy in the library.
i'm all for it!