No, he was elected by people who voted for him. Quit the scapegoating. It makes you look stupid. The democrats fucked up big time with their strategy of getting him nominated because they put up such a shitty candidate. I fart in their corrupt face.
He was elected by a minority of the popular vote, stop pretending that this is normal and acceptable in a democracy. It just makes you look stupid.
Say what you will about Hillary she is not an impulsive person
She asked why we can't just launch a drone strike on a foreign embassy in London. Even if that's a joke (which would be contingent upon proof she has a real sense of humor), that is a gaffe that would have Biden muttering "seriously, not cool."
And there in lies the problem. If Hillary says something like that people know she's making a bad joke, if Trump says it they actually seriously consider the possibility that he will drone strike an embassy in the centre of London. Trump says he likes to be unpredictable which is about the worst thing you can be when dealing with mentally unstable sabre rattling homicidal dictators like Putin.
Evil demagogue? You're saying this about GP and not Trump, am I getting this right? And you have no idea what GP is talking about? Here you go:
GS: "Are you unequivocally now ruling out a database on all Muslims?"
Trump: "No, not at all"
That was the final word on Trump's proposal to create a database to track all Muslims, which he had tried to backtrack to just "refugees". I'm not sure if it came before or after his idea that mosques need to be placed under surveillance. In combination with the unconstitutional Muslim ban he proposed, and the... you know what, he's said so much fucked up shit just on this one topic that if you haven't bothered to educate yourself on it by now, I'm not going to waste my time. Here's a quarter, go fuck yourself.
Oh, and dealing with other countries diplomatically instead of militarily is now equivalent to Nazism or something all of the sudden. Which is why everybody thought Obama was a Nazi when he was elected... right?
I don't really want to get into your Democrat=wrong-think, Republican=right-think pissing contest. What I will say is that presidential candidates dealing diplomatically to Russia/China depends entirely on what was being said and promised. Say what you will about Hillary she is not an impulsive person and for all her faults I do not believe she'd make rash promises to anybody, especially if they affect the USA's extensive network of allies. Trump, on the other hand, is completely inexperienced in foreign policy dealings, he is an individual that is so impulsive he apparently cannot even be trusted with a Twitter account. So when it becomes known that he's been having talks with Vladimir Putin behind the backs of all of the USA's allies it gets people wondering what he promised the Russians without consulting them?... unilateral lifting of sanctions? recognition of their annexation of the Crimea and the Eastern Ukraine in exchange for cooperation on ending the Syrian mess? A pledge not to defend the Baltic republics? Something even dumber than that, like dismantling NATO? Or did he simply have a friendly dinner with one of Putin's creatures over some New York deep dish pizza and discuss Golf? Point being that people are a lot less nervous about Hillary 'giving away the home-world' as it were than they are over Trump dong the same because after he promised to do the modern equivalent of pining a yellow star on every Muslim in the USA people basically think he's capable of anything.
...the Ivy League-armed technocrats of the Progressive apparatus have waged a relentless war against state sovereignty in their march to greater political and economic consolidation in D.C. and NYC...
You do realise that the right wing technocrats you vote for went to the same Ivy League schools and if they didn't they are sending their kids there?
Sure it does, but those bases belong to that country called USA. I have a feeling that the enlisted would be required to move.
When countries break up (assuming the result is not a civil war) the military forces are usually divided between the fragments. A good case in point is the breakup of the Soviet Union which was followed by years of horse-trading over who gets which forces/equipment/bases/nukes.
It has to suck after you make all these of those "donations" and get nothing back in return.
For investor who usually donate to both Dems. and Reps depending on the situation at each time and in each place it's just cost of doing business. Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose.
Wait though, it's not "Californians" who are calling for secession, it's a handful of crybaby tech billionaires.
It wasn't so long ago that a crabby billionaire wanted to be president, the lesson from his story is: "Just wait until they start to hold rallies and make promises."
If you supported Trump kindly go fuck yourself, and I'll take the moderation results of this post. If not then I apologize to you, but not the man who decided to run a campaign based on sowing as much hatred as absolutely possible.
This is what happens when you run that kind of campaign.
We didn't protest when Barack Obama was elected. Twice.
Did Obama call white people murderers, drug dealers and rapists?
Did Obama get to be president when somebody else won the popular vote?
I'd say these people have ample cause to protest that Trump is not their president which is their constitutional right.
Here's some observations about the protests:
OK, let's have a look.
Pre-printed signs,
Microsoft Word, Open Office, Pages... combine those with a laser printer and the options are endless. Does not prove any malfeasance.
Cash to pay protestors
[citation needed]
Crowd Warm-up pro
Professional inciters
You don't need to be a professional to lead a protest and give a speech. All you need is to not suffer from stage fright and know how Facebook/Twitter/WhatsApp/SMS works to summon your fellow protesters. This is protesting 101, not evidence of an anti-Trump conspiracy.
Alert media to get it all on TV
Again, that's protesting 101, alert media, what kind of protest organiser does not alert the media? Not that I've ever know newshounds to take more than a few minutes to sniff out a good story... and please don't try to tell us that protest organisation is evidence of an anti-Trump conspiracy. Political parties and non partisan groups organise protest all the time and right wing groups are no exception.
You're being manipulated
No we are not. Now please show us some evidence that these people are paid mercenaries or stop bothering us with your conspiracy theories.
We live in a Republic, not a democracy. The Electoral College does serve a purpose, one that you disagree with, but it still serves a purpose. The GP outlines it very nicely and in unbiased terms.
You can sing the praises of your electoral college and how that's the best electoral system ever conceived by the mind of man but there is and always will be something wrong with a system where the person who gets the biggest share of the popular vote gets to be president.
Isn't that racist? There's another perfectly good Democratic-leaning country next door, it's called Mexico, but I haven't heard any Hollywood celebrities saying they're moving there. Only Canada.
There is a rather brutal drug fuelled civlil war raging in Mexico that has apparently escaped your notice but I suppose if you are a card carrying NRA member that might be an option for you.
which is why the REAL Issue is that Mexico has a pay of $3.00 PER DAY. What is needed to adjust NAFTA to make it fair and better for all, is to require Mexico to slowly bring their pay up to $3/hr or better.
I don't see that happening. And if it does, the manufacturing will probably come back here - and be done by robots. That's the only reason why it's still down there - Mexicans are still cheaper than automation (and of course the capital investment has to be recovered; which adds to the inertia of staying there.)
That is true, Trump promises to bring back jobs for completely uneducated people but many of those jobs will be taken over by robots even within his first term of office. If Trump really wanted to improve the lives of these rust belters that elected him he'd be promising them education levels that allow them to function in a future economy instead of goading them with toll barriers and bigotry.
How is it that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 20% of congress?
For the same reason that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 15% of the prison population... they take fewer risks.
In other words women, on average, are smarter than men and only take risk after giving it careful though as opposed to just charging in without any thought of the consequences. Can't say I'm surprised by that revelation.
That the elections are over and Congress and the Senate are set for two years? The Republican establishment in power now is the one that will be in power until at least then -- not next year.
One year, two years, I don't want to split hairs with you over the time frame. With a groundswell of support like Trump has he'd be stupid if he didn't oust the current establishment and hijack the Republican party six months before the next mid-term elections at the latest.
...nfortunately it's not the popular vote that matters.
That just means the system is working as it was intended to work. It also means that Trump was right, the system is totally corrupt, rigged and broken except it wasn't rigged against him, it is rigged in his favour. Which leads us to another small consolation prise, if he doesn't fix the corrupt, rigged and broken system that he kept whining about (and he won't) he's a fucking hypocrite.
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The clowns that have been pushing for it since the collapse of the Soviet Union need to be imprisoned at the very least.
So are you going to be the one to go to Russia and get them to lock up Putin? ... I ask because it normally takes at least two to quarrel.
There's Russians under my bed!
Sarah Palin? ... is that you?
No, he was elected by people who voted for him. Quit the scapegoating. It makes you look stupid. The democrats fucked up big time with their strategy of getting him nominated because they put up such a shitty candidate. I fart in their corrupt face.
He was elected by a minority of the popular vote, stop pretending that this is normal and acceptable in a democracy. It just makes you look stupid.
people are a lot less nervous about Hillary 'giving away the home-world' as it were
Always nice to stumble across a fellow B5-er. But before we can talk, I have to know if you are a green or a purple
You spotted that B5 quote, well done (no sarcasm) . The answer is I loathe both left and right with equal passion, I'm very fair that way.
She asked why we can't just launch a drone strike on a foreign embassy in London. Even if that's a joke (which would be contingent upon proof she has a real sense of humor), that is a gaffe that would have Biden muttering "seriously, not cool."
And there in lies the problem. If Hillary says something like that people know she's making a bad joke, if Trump says it they actually seriously consider the possibility that he will drone strike an embassy in the centre of London. Trump says he likes to be unpredictable which is about the worst thing you can be when dealing with mentally unstable sabre rattling homicidal dictators like Putin.
Evil demagogue? You're saying this about GP and not Trump, am I getting this right? And you have no idea what GP is talking about? Here you go: GS: "Are you unequivocally now ruling out a database on all Muslims?" Trump: "No, not at all" That was the final word on Trump's proposal to create a database to track all Muslims, which he had tried to backtrack to just "refugees". I'm not sure if it came before or after his idea that mosques need to be placed under surveillance. In combination with the unconstitutional Muslim ban he proposed, and the... you know what, he's said so much fucked up shit just on this one topic that if you haven't bothered to educate yourself on it by now, I'm not going to waste my time. Here's a quarter, go fuck yourself.
I wish I could mod you up.
Oh, and dealing with other countries diplomatically instead of militarily is now equivalent to Nazism or something all of the sudden. Which is why everybody thought Obama was a Nazi when he was elected... right?
I don't really want to get into your Democrat=wrong-think, Republican=right-think pissing contest. What I will say is that presidential candidates dealing diplomatically to Russia/China depends entirely on what was being said and promised. Say what you will about Hillary she is not an impulsive person and for all her faults I do not believe she'd make rash promises to anybody, especially if they affect the USA's extensive network of allies. Trump, on the other hand, is completely inexperienced in foreign policy dealings, he is an individual that is so impulsive he apparently cannot even be trusted with a Twitter account. So when it becomes known that he's been having talks with Vladimir Putin behind the backs of all of the USA's allies it gets people wondering what he promised the Russians without consulting them? ... unilateral lifting of sanctions? recognition of their annexation of the Crimea and the Eastern Ukraine in exchange for cooperation on ending the Syrian mess? A pledge not to defend the Baltic republics? Something even dumber than that, like dismantling NATO? Or did he simply have a friendly dinner with one of Putin's creatures over some New York deep dish pizza and discuss Golf? Point being that people are a lot less nervous about Hillary 'giving away the home-world' as it were than they are over Trump dong the same because after he promised to do the modern equivalent of pining a yellow star on every Muslim in the USA people basically think he's capable of anything.
Just give California back to the Mexicans.
Give Texas back to the Mexicans as well and you have a deal.
...the Ivy League-armed technocrats of the Progressive apparatus have waged a relentless war against state sovereignty in their march to greater political and economic consolidation in D.C. and NYC...
You do realise that the right wing technocrats you vote for went to the same Ivy League schools and if they didn't they are sending their kids there?
Sure it does, but those bases belong to that country called USA. I have a feeling that the enlisted would be required to move.
When countries break up (assuming the result is not a civil war) the military forces are usually divided between the fragments. A good case in point is the breakup of the Soviet Union which was followed by years of horse-trading over who gets which forces/equipment/bases/nukes.
It has to suck after you make all these of those "donations" and get nothing back in return.
For investor who usually donate to both Dems. and Reps depending on the situation at each time and in each place it's just cost of doing business. Sometimes you win, sometimes you loose.
Wait though, it's not "Californians" who are calling for secession, it's a handful of crybaby tech billionaires.
It wasn't so long ago that a crabby billionaire wanted to be president, the lesson from his story is: "Just wait until they start to hold rallies and make promises."
If you supported Trump kindly go fuck yourself, and I'll take the moderation results of this post. If not then I apologize to you, but not the man who decided to run a campaign based on sowing as much hatred as absolutely possible.
This is what happens when you run that kind of campaign.
We didn't protest when Barack Obama was elected. Twice.
Did Obama call white people murderers, drug dealers and rapists? Did Obama get to be president when somebody else won the popular vote? I'd say these people have ample cause to protest that Trump is not their president which is their constitutional right .
Here's some observations about the protests:
OK, let's have a look.
Microsoft Word, Open Office, Pages... combine those with a laser printer and the options are endless. Does not prove any malfeasance.
Cash to pay protestors
[citation needed]
Crowd Warm-up pro
Professional inciters
You don't need to be a professional to lead a protest and give a speech. All you need is to not suffer from stage fright and know how Facebook/Twitter/WhatsApp/SMS works to summon your fellow protesters. This is protesting 101, not evidence of an anti-Trump conspiracy.
Alert media to get it all on TV
Again, that's protesting 101, alert media, what kind of protest organiser does not alert the media? Not that I've ever know newshounds to take more than a few minutes to sniff out a good story... and please don't try to tell us that protest organisation is evidence of an anti-Trump conspiracy. Political parties and non partisan groups organise protest all the time and right wing groups are no exception.
You're being manipulated
No we are not. Now please show us some evidence that these people are paid mercenaries or stop bothering us with your conspiracy theories.
You're assuming he's speaking English. He's speaking Hipsterish.
Gerrymandering = anything to do with politics he doesn't understand.
Ponzi Scheme = anything to do with finance he doesn't understand.
Prole box = any computer that isn't his mom's macbook.
The same shit in Hognoxious' dialect of alt-rightish:
Political correctness = anything to do with politics you doesn't understand.
Corruption = anything to do with finance you doesn't understand.
Witchcraft = anything that runs on electricity.
It is more of a disaster that people don't know that we live in a Republic, and not a democracy.
Really? America is not a democracy? Read this: https://www.washingtonpost.com...
We live in a Republic, not a democracy. The Electoral College does serve a purpose, one that you disagree with, but it still serves a purpose. The GP outlines it very nicely and in unbiased terms.
You can sing the praises of your electoral college and how that's the best electoral system ever conceived by the mind of man but there is and always will be something wrong with a system where the person who gets the biggest share of the popular vote gets to be president.
Isn't that racist? There's another perfectly good Democratic-leaning country next door, it's called Mexico, but I haven't heard any Hollywood celebrities saying they're moving there. Only Canada.
There is a rather brutal drug fuelled civlil war raging in Mexico that has apparently escaped your notice but I suppose if you are a card carrying NRA member that might be an option for you.
>How bad can it get?
Jesus christ. If there was ever a catchphrase for the year 2016...
I kind of like 3D iMax Shit-Fit Dumpster Fire 2016.
which is why the REAL Issue is that Mexico has a pay of $3.00 PER DAY. What is needed to adjust NAFTA to make it fair and better for all, is to require Mexico to slowly bring their pay up to $3/hr or better.
I don't see that happening. And if it does, the manufacturing will probably come back here - and be done by robots. That's the only reason why it's still down there - Mexicans are still cheaper than automation (and of course the capital investment has to be recovered; which adds to the inertia of staying there.)
That is true, Trump promises to bring back jobs for completely uneducated people but many of those jobs will be taken over by robots even within his first term of office. If Trump really wanted to improve the lives of these rust belters that elected him he'd be promising them education levels that allow them to function in a future economy instead of goading them with toll barriers and bigotry.
There will certainly be a rejigging of trade. It's not fair trade when it becomes a race to the bottom for workers.
There is no concept of 'fair' in capitalism and a race to the bottom is nothing but capitalism.
How is it that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 20% of congress?
For the same reason that over half the population is women and yet they account for only 15% of the prison population... they take fewer risks.
In other words women, on average, are smarter than men and only take risk after giving it careful though as opposed to just charging in without any thought of the consequences. Can't say I'm surprised by that revelation.
And what makes you think the current Republican establishment will still be in power a year from now?
The people have spoken, and they love the America in Decline narrative. They said the same thing in 2014.
Stupid is as stupid does.
That the elections are over and Congress and the Senate are set for two years? The Republican establishment in power now is the one that will be in power until at least then -- not next year.
One year, two years, I don't want to split hairs with you over the time frame. With a groundswell of support like Trump has he'd be stupid if he didn't oust the current establishment and hijack the Republican party six months before the next mid-term elections at the latest.
You lost.. You can stop the hate and lies now
Actually we didn't, Hillary looks set to win the popular vote which means that democracy lost. Now put that in your pipe and smoke it.
...nfortunately it's not the popular vote that matters.
That just means the system is working as it was intended to work. It also means that Trump was right, the system is totally corrupt, rigged and broken except it wasn't rigged against him, it is rigged in his favour. Which leads us to another small consolation prise, if he doesn't fix the corrupt, rigged and broken system that he kept whining about (and he won't) he's a fucking hypocrite.