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Russia Says it Was in Touch With Trump Campaign During Election (cnbc.com)
An anonymous reader shares a CNBC report: The Russian government was in touch with members of President-elect Donald Trump's campaign staff during the U.S. election campaign, Russian Deputy Foreign Minister Sergei Ryabkov told the Interfax news agency on Thursday. "There were contacts," Interfax cited Ryabkov as saying. He did not give details. When asked whether these contacts would now intensify after Trump's election victory, Ryabkov said: "These working moments and follow-up on this or that matter will depend on the situation and the questions which face us. But we will of course continue this work after the elections." Defeated Democratic presidential contender Hillary Clinton accused Trump of being a "puppet" of President Vladimir Putin during the campaign, and U.S. officials said Russia had hacked into Democratic party emails, something Moscow denied. Trump has said he might meet Putin before his inauguration, but Putin's spokesman has said there are currently no plans for such a meeting.
You just elected a Russian mole. But he is going to get you jerbs...in a gulag.
Not a puppet. You're the puppet. You're the puppet.
who did not see that coming ?
Just look at what China did with Clinton:
http://www.scmp.com/news/china...
But it's only "evil" when Trump is involved in something.
Oh, and dealing with other countries diplomatically instead of militarily is now equivalent to Nazism or something all of the sudden. Which is why everybody thought Obama was a Nazi when he was elected... right?
AntiFA: An abbreviation for Anti First Amendment.
This is what happens when close to 50% of eligible voters don't bother to go to the polls.
Might not be. Might not mean anything even if it is true; just sending a couple of unsolicited emails could be "in touch." Russia is going to see an advantage in sowing doubt about Trump regardless of the truth.
Lighten up would ya? This is what you get for nominating Clinton. Your little game of putting him up against her backfired real nice. Now live with it and shut the fuck up... dumbasses!
Trump was in touch with Mexican President Enrique Peña Nieto. I saw it on television!
Here's what they really had to say:
Big deal.
How many times does someone have to lie?
If I came into your living room and lied to you multiple times, would you trust me? Why are you even listening to the MSM outlets at this point??? They are paid liars.
Clinton accepted money from countries with ties to terrorists, such as Saudi Arabia. There is no valid comparison to being "in touch" with Russia.
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Moles are bad enough, but when they're Russian, they're drinking vodka while they tunnel and they are all over the place!
Then they pop out of their tunnels, puke all over the lawn, sing really loud and off key, and back into the tunnel zigging and zagging making a huge mess!
At least the Mexican moles keep it to just the holidays - although their music can be obnoxious!
Russia is still our adversary. They've got their foot in the door right now with Americans suspicious of Trump+Putin they're going to say things like this whether true or not just to continue to disrupt and destabilize us. Take it from someone who lived through the cold war, this is exactly how they operate. Russia does not love Trump as a potential ally, they love being able to shake up the US and Trump gives them a plethora of ways to do that.
This is what happens when close to 50% of eligible voters don't bother to go to the polls.
We get a leader who tries to calm and reassure a potential dangerous adversary?
This partisanship is blinding you to reality. Clinton and Obama were steadily ratcheting up the fear and blame on Russia. They were building moral cover to justify a prolonged campaign of sanctions and possibly war.
It got so bad that Julian Assange publicly stated that Russia was *not* the source of the Podesta E-mails. He *never* gives out information about his sources, that he would do this indicates that he felt there was some danger.
This was all happening over the past two months, and you can't remember it?
Contacting Russia and saying "relax, if I get elected we can work out our problems through diplomacy" is a good thing.
127 characters should be enough for anyone.
Sure. Because Kremlin says so... Except, they don't even claim that... It is all a product of hypotheses, suggestions, and unsubstantiated — usually anonymous — claims.
Meanwhile, a few facts about Clinton's recent past:
The only thing, that can be done to address the above accusations by your kind is down-modding them — facts are stubborn. So, apply some Vaseline, charge your Prius and head for Canada as you promised.
The Beautiful Wickedness finally had some water splashed on her, and us, the deplorable munchkins, are rejoicing.
In Soviet Washington the swamp drains you.
Very ironic seeing the Democrats become the party of "mumble mumble... because Russians".
I swear these pathetic excuses by butt-hurt dems keep getting better and better. Lots of countries were in touch with Trump while he was running. Duh! You guys lost so badly to the most historic upset in history.... seriously take a vacation, chill pill, whatever you guys do.
You are all cows. Cows say moo. MOOOOOOOOO! MOOOOOOOOO! Mooooo cows MOOOOOOO! Mooo say the cows. COWS TRUMP YOU!!
Since GP only used 10 unique characters, I'd say 127 is more than enough.
Chuuch. Preach. Tabernacle.
The butthurt is strong with this one...
The next four years should be a hoot. This is the kind of moonbatty stories we'll be seeing each day. Each one less sensual than the one before.
Before the election, I was at least thankful to The Donald for castrating Jeb! Even if he were to eventually lose, at least he managed to finally bury the Bushes.
But now thanks to the good and wise choice of the American electorate, we'll have at least four years of entertainment like this, watching the Left go batshit crazy with each passing day.
Trump 2020!!!
You fell for the, "Look, RUSSIAN squirrel!!!!" crap egested from the Clinton campaign.
Congrats.
You're not even smart enough to qualify as a hunting dog.
While Hillary was Secretary of State, she signed off on the sell of part of United States Uranium supply to the Russians leading to financial benefits for the Clintons and their close friends -- like Podesta. That's just the gist. Look for yourself. Look into "Uranium One." The information is public knowledge and was a determent to the US's national security unlike these silly articles spreading Clinton's McCarthyism.
This whole Russian Meme is just silly and needs to be put back in its dusty cold-war shoe box.
47% if the voters. not 47% of the population.
127 million people voted.
The US population is estimated at 324,227,000 in 2016
47% of the voters is 59.6 million people.
47% of the population of the US is 152.3 million people. That's more people than voted in total!
So really, the election told us that 18% of the people next to us in the checkout line are likely to be Trump voters. Some of them aren't even of voting age, so you know they didn't participate in the dumbing down of the presidency (even past the Bush years... it's astonishing, really. The tyranny of the Gaussian come home to roost. Democracy at work: any two idiots outvote a genius. In an environment where geniuses are rare.)
Just saying. :)
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Mr Obama says: "On all these issues, but particularly missile defence, this, this can be solved but it's important for him to give me space."
Mr Medvedev replies: "Yeah, I understand. I understand your message about space. Space for you "
Mr Obama retorts: "This is my last election. After my election I have more flexibility."
And Mr Medvedev finishes: "I understand. I will transmit this information to Vladimir [Putin]."
http://www.nytimes.com/2015/04...
Stopping the new cold war, giving up the pointless protests over the crimea, letting Russia risk their lives in Syria -- it's all good. Constructive ties with Russia is just about the only potential positive I can see in Trump's presidency, if I can buy that it'll last.
Unfortunately, what I fear is that that the buddy-buddy relationship with Putin will not last long. At some point, two macho buffoons with egos that large are going to clash over something and want to fight. It can turn very quickly and very disastrously. Probably Iran will be the sticking point -- Trump talks tough on Iran, hates the nuclear deal and want to antagonize them. But Iran is an important Russian ally and Russia is the country being paid to do much of the nuclear work in Iran.
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No, he should be okay. He isn't a judge of Mexican ancestry, so I'm sure we can trust him.
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
It's voter turn out that ruled the day. Why didn't the Democrats vote?
He will erase Obama's sorry legacy in about 2 weeks. For the first time a President will be moving into the Whitehouse and reducing his standard of living.
Dude, you are udderly ridiculous. Seriously. Don't you feel like you have a steak in this coversation? It be hooves you to take a more serious approach to the forum, no matter what you've herd elsewhere. It's time to stop milking this for all it's worth and get with the program, before the mods decide to put you out to pasture, see?
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
Instead of jumping to conspiracy, how about Russia reaching out to say that they were not involved in the hacks? Considering the amount of venom Hillary was sending to Russia, the threats of war by Joe Biden, indirect action by Clinton claiming she would establish no-fly zones over Syria, perhaps Russia was simply saying "Hey, we didn't do that and are keeping our distance."
There is certainly a different position to be had by a candidates spouse taking hundreds of millions of dollars from foreign interests, which Trump was accused of but Bill Clinton actually did.
-The wise argue that there are few absolutes, the fool argues that there are no probabilities.
Wikileaks is now part of the US power structure. This is getting interesting.
You are welcome on my lawn.
It's unignoreable, the Democrats didn't vote. What's really interesting is the voter turn out for Trump.
Independent here. Would have voted for Sanders in a heartbeat. Also Warren.
My presidential vote didn't matter because I live in such an overwhelmingly blue state.
I voted for Trump as a big fuck you to those dismissing the lives and votes of whites, especially middle-class uneducated AND educated. Ever hear of H1-B?
I have multiple college degrees in tech and cannot even get interviews. The elite have said fuck-you to me, so I say fuck you back to the elite.
TLDR: Trump vote = fuck you to dismissing whites.
IN fact we are building a giant igloo over all Canada.....also we've let loose our two secret weapons , along the border, giant 50 foot polar bears that like the taste of bullshit thus they will love all you Americans , and last but not least the uber weapon the giant beavers with teeth ten feet tall to knaw at any remaining bullshit they find....
YUP STAY AWAY BE SCARED ITS NOT SAFE FOR YOU HERE
signed
canada
p.s. solve your own crap before coming here
I'm just gonna pull up a lawn chair, enjoy some nice fresh popcorn and watch. These are historic times, and fortunately, I'm fairly old, had a good life, and don't care if I die. Bring it on, Entertain me!
The shepherds did so well protecting the flock that the sheep no longer believed that wolves existed.
Going by your level of stupidity. You're one of these brain-washed millennials that were banking on free-colledge, because a "CONGENITAL LIAR" told you it would happen.
... Because other millennials, didn't jump head first into Clinton's ass, just because the media told them to do so.
The level of STUPID some of you morons have pooped onto our nation really stinks. But is it really your fault? YES!!!
I bet if the media told you your teeth were candy, you'd try to eat them.
And he got DAILY classified security briefings! And he talked to LOTS of foreign leaders!
Oh, wait, so did Clinton. Because they were both finalists for the most powerful job in the world, and both needed to be prepared by existing US and foreign administrations for a smooth transition to power.
Nevermind.
Put my fist through my alarm clock with its ding-dong death inside my ear. - The Blackjacks.
Hear me roar
While Donald I of America still can't do nothing. No matter if he eventually lets himself be provoked easily and reacts accordingly or if he ignores foreign policy - Putin wins either way. Talking about the desired candidate... But this was obvious all along, so I guess the US voters knew what they were doing. Let's make Russia great again.
Um, do you not understand just about everything Trump did was equally staged? He knows how Television works.
Yes, exactly precisely this. The man has been in front of a TV camera for decades. He's a reality TV star. He knows how to make a false drama engaging. He's very good at it. It doesn't matter if anything he said was true or not, it was entertaining! Who cares if they don't do abortions in the 9th month? Who cares if we've only found about a few dozen actual cases of voter fraud? Play it up! Make it dramatic and absolutely nobody will care.
America, you just elected this guy.
Weaselmancer
rediculous.
You left out the part where Russia contacted the Hillary camp too but they declined a meeting.
The article summary makes it sound like Russia was controlling the Trump camp.
fucker
She asked why we can't just launch a drone strike on a foreign embassy in London. Even if that's a joke (which would be contingent upon proof she has a real sense of humor), that is a gaffe that would have Biden muttering "seriously, not cool."
"Russia Says it Was in Touch With Trump Campaign During Election"
Here's my shocked face.
Just cruising through this digital world at 33 1/3 rpm...
Yep and I expect the Brits, French, Spanish, Italians and Germans were in communication with Trump too. Oh noes!!! The redcoats are coming!!!
This ridiculous paranoia from the left wing media sources who are nothing more than sore loosers throwing a temper tantrum and trying to incite a backlash has to be seen for exactly what it is.
Soros = Clinton's backer literally says he wants ruin the USA + he turned jews over to Hitler. He's a Jew himself.
He do it to you with no regrets when he would sell out his own kind.
A real Judas goat!
Soros is the worst kind, lurking in the background/shadows like a coward manipulating nations to ruin (very few folks realize what that loon does & is about - I'm here to inform you since you're obviously ignorant of him).
Soros is known as the man who broke England's bank, tried to screw with the Russian and Polish economies (was banished literally from them too http://www.veteranstoday.com/2... ) ontop of dumping Thai currency and crushing other nations and is intent on burning down the US. He mainly does this through currency speculation and hedge funds.
Soros the puppetmaster lunatic also literally said he's a God and that's one of the first signs of psychotic breaks with reality (Christ/God complex) when one's serious about it - he definitely is.
Soros has also literally said rules do not apply to him as well.
Soros IS Hillary's puppeteer. The MAIN one. "KNOW THY ENEMY..." The REAL 'man behind the curtain', folks.
Soros = a globalist puppeteer for sellouts like Hillary who is also backed by other globalist bankers (she is a globalist herself or is not the CFR/Trilateral commision/Bilderbergers (iirc feel free to correct me what pack of criminals she's part of) she's part of not an example of it along with the bungle that is NAFTA?) who we paid to bail out no less in her IMF banker backers!
The same bankers we borrow money from, with interest, to pay down the national debt interest. That means we can never ever get out of it. It's a trap dumbo.
Hillary's also the Benghazi Libya embassy liar who broke national security laws with classified documents in her hom with her crony Comey who obviously was coerced into his faulty investigation!
So, rules and laws apparently don't apply to her either! Why give away immunity when nobody was at fault?
You wanted blatant crooks, liars, and maniacs running things?
The last LAWYER we had running the show's results are poor and for a lawyer she sure likes breaking laws (see Benghazi and her email server with classified information on it). We don't need another lawyer @ the TOP in Hillary (she is one too).
We need a businessman to fix the business of the USA for the good! Trump does business and from the looks of it, very well. He may have family money but he's built off it and built it up.
That is FAR BETTER than "Darth Soros" who burns things JUST TO SEE THEM BURN (see above on currency speculation games & literally stating he wants the USA out of his way + saying that's he's GOD... imo @ least, he's a loon & psychiatric sciences would indeed, back me..!)
Trump's also going to help US workers by crushing H1B (which takes US jobs) as well as job creation by for example forcing Apple to make their machines here not China (which also takes our jobs)!
He's rich but he's not out to help the rich get richer as his predecessors did while acting as our current upcoming president. Reminds me of JFK in fact (a good & great man, no doubt about it).
APK
P.S.=> When you're "Pro Hillary" you're pro globalist 1 world currency "beast 666 system" (you'd best hear what Rockefeller told Aaron Russo about that (Russo suddenly died too, go figure, ala "anyone gets outta line, we turn off their chip")) & perhaps worse, "DARTH SOROS" RUNS/OWNS Hillary & birds of a feather stick together. Soros the psychotic means NO GOOD FOR THE USA, & has said it (as a globalist puppeteer that want to bust up the USA)... apk
"What I will say is that presidential candidates dealing diplomatically to Russia/China depends entirely on what was being said and promised."
I've been saying for months that Russia probably flipped both Trump and Clinton.
One of the dangers of America's globalization culture is that it erodes nationalism in the people most likely to make it into the presidency: The people wealthy or connected enough to recieve the limelight. Most of them have international holdings. If more of those holdings are outside the US than inside it (or they have good reason to believe they will be able to retain them after any 'management change' that takes place) then American citizens become no more trustworthy as presidential candidates than nationalized former foreigners are. While most people have paid little attention to this, there is a not insignificant chance that both Clinton and Trump ARE working for outside forces, and the illusion of choice in the candidates was a fallacy put forth by the puppetmasters who actually were pulling their strings.
I of course have no proof of this, but others in the community might be able to run with this and find out if there is a thread to unravel.
Now everyone is parroting HRC's talking points in making Donald a collaborator with the evil empire. Before it was the MSM playing her hand point by point. Bill Clinton took millions in contributions from China resulting in everything offshoring to China. Project much? The Clintons practice crony capitalism period and fuck the losers for thinking the majority of Americans buy into their BS.
Dialogue is constructive and a path to a peaceful coexistence. When he hides the substance and destroys everything post-subpoena is when you grab the pitchforks and torches.
You know, it's quite a coincidence that these attacks only occur during Presidential elections and only when Democrats are having a hard time 'motivating' black voters tiger to the polls and vote...
Except that burning down African-American churches is not something that only occurs during presidential elections. In fact, it happens all the time. We just notice it more during elections.
Here, for example are some stories from early 2015: http://www.theatlantic.com/nat...
and https://www.washingtonpost.com...
and https://www.washingtonpost.com...
and https://www.splcenter.org/hate...
Trump got $0 corporate donations from Goldman or anyone else for that matter nothing. Not bought and paid for like Hillary. Trump was divisive in his campaign but make no mistake, he really is a departure from the shit birds u saw before. He doesnt owe anyone special favours.
If you increased voter turnout by 10%, evenly and randomly distributed across the country, the final results would have been identical. The number of votes would be higher, but the proportional breakdown would have been the same.
Only if you increased voter turnout of democrats, without increasing voter turnout of republicans, would the result have been different.
Trump was elected by the people who voted. That's a fact.
It's not a question of how I behave; I do not advocate us invading anyone. I think we were absolutely wrong in almost every war we ever got involved in during this century (Japan's attack on us excepted), and I think other countries are wrong when they invade others as well. But I am not their mommy. It is not my responsibility, nor our country's, to shore up a shitty house someone else has built. Every country has a responsibility to erect a sustainable construct for the benefit of its own people and to behave in a way that won't aggravate the shit out of others. If they can't, they literally have no business at all complaining if and when it falls down around their heads. Just as a person who builds a fireplace out of twigs has no business complaining when the thing burns down as soon as he lights a match in it.
Countries exist for a reason -- and it isn't an imaginary one. It's to create sovereignty, and that in turn is there to secure and protect social and fungible treasure as seen by the citizens. There's no other reason to do it. You would be stupid to jump on an island here in the US, claim it was a sovereign country, and expect to be left alone (and you would not be.) This is 100% because you attempted to set up shop without the means to actually set up shop. Now, you have a fleet of nuclear armed submarines no one knows where is and you do this, and viola, you have a country. See? If you can defend it, it's serious. If you can't, it's bullshit.
If some other country attacks us, I advocate wiping them off the face of the earth. Otherwise, they can do whatever they want. This has three immediate consequences: One, we're not aggravating anyone else, so their urge to mess with us based on resentment is minimized. Two, deciding to mess with us is a very, very serious decision, one that will almost certainly result in their being wiped out of existence. Three, other countries would no longer worry about is screwing with them, because they'd know that if they don't screw with us first, it isn't going to happen.
What I'm talking about is what our duty is when some entity on the other side of the planet misbehaves. Our laws and our society end right at our national border. If you claim otherwise, you're very, very confused. The only thing that we can exert beyond our borders is coercion and force. Because, and this is the money right here, no one else is subject to our laws.
Until nations are no longer a thing (and yes, I think that's a good idea), either nations are fully capable of protecting their own, either directly or by employing hired force, or not. If not, that's not our fault or responsibility. I am, by the way, perfectly willing that our force be hired out, as long as all its members are volunteers and we earn treasure instead of losing it.
Treaties are generally a really, really bad idea. Just to get that out of the way. I wish we didn't have any.
You know.... here we are, with congress, the executive, and the judiciary roundly ignoring the constitution. Make no law, they make laws. Shall not infringe, they infringe like there's no tomorrow. Intrastate commerce regulated by abusing power authorized only for interstate commerce. Ex post facto laws abound. Search and seizure without warrant or probable cause or oath or affirmation or really anything is regular entertainment for the cops, as is shooting black people for the crime of "living while black." The government has tortured, it holds people without judicial process, it snoops on people's lives in an incredibly invasive and anti-liberty manner, and 1984's the people into thinking this must be a good idea when it definitely is not. The electoral college routinely disenfranchises citizens of their votes. Our politicians lie like rugs both in pursuit of office, and while in it. The USA acts, internally, like a bunch of assholes and is
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
He's probably going to appoint Steven Mnuchin, a Goldman Sachs alumni, as the Treasury Secretary. Feel betrayed yet? You should.
This is where everyone finds out that their "anti-establishment" candidate is actually not. Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
http://www.politico.com/story/...
Lookie all the commies defending mother russia and Herr Trump. Traitors.
Doesn't apply. Here's what you mean to be saying:
"First they came for the gays, and I did not speak out -
Because I was not a gay.
Then they came for the drug users, and I did not speak out -
Because I was not a drug user.
Then they came for the polygamists, and I did not speak out-
Because I was not a polygamist.
Then they came for me - and there was no one left to speak for me."
You know why that's relevant, and your use isn't?
Because in my version, we all live within the same society (also true of Germany at the time Niemöller wrote that.) The concern is that the authorities we allow to run our show are getting out of hand, and, we are responsible for them -- they are us, in the very most basic sense. In your version, your basic assumption is that everyone in the world lives under the same set of social rules, a common social contract, and a binding one at that. But we don't. Saudi Arabia is not the US (thank goodness) and the US is not Saudi Arabia. They want to behead criminals and treat women like possessions, it's not our responsibility to interfere. That's something in their own social matrix. Likewise, we want to maintain the world's largest gulag composed of drug users, it's not Saudi Arabia's job to interfere.
Nations exist for a reason. If you advocate that ignoring a nation's borders and exerting force on them is valid "because reasons", then you'd best be prepared when some other nation decides we've been fucking up our situation just a little too much, and steps in here to fix our unconstitutional, out-of-hand government. All I expect to hear from you then is "Thank you sir, yes sir, right away sir, here are my papers, please may I have a ration card?"
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/
6% is what is paid out in external grants, the Clinton Foundation does most of its work via internal staff.
http://www.factcheck.org/2015/06/where-does-clinton-foundation-money-go/
"Considering all of the organizations affiliated with the Clinton Foundation, he said, CharityWatch concluded about 89 percent of its budget is spent on programs. That’s the amount it spent on charity in 2013, he said.
We looked at the consolidated financial statements (see page 4) and calculated that in 2013, 88.3 percent of spending was designated as going toward program services — $196.6 million out of $222.6 million in reported expenses.
We can’t vouch for the effectiveness of the programming expenses listed in the report, but it is clear that the claim that the Clinton Foundation only steers 6 percent of its donations to charity is wrong, and amounts to a misunderstanding of how public charities work.
— Robert Farley"
Hilliary took 140 million dollars from Russians as Sec Of State and in less than a month she arranged for those Russian to take control of 40% of North American Uranium mining. But Trump spoke to some Russians? Are you insane?
Since Trump rhetoric has been to bring down the status quo of the whole establishment maybe they were discussing the full pardon of Edward Snowden and Julian Assange.
maybe Trump is planning to give back to the people what the estabishment took from them. Their privacy.
or maybe they were discussing how Trump can setup a private server for all his classified and 'special interest' emails and was asking the russians on how best to protect against russian attacks :) :) I mean there is NOTHING WRONG with having highest level classified information on a apache server witha MySQL database run on a Pentium I processor :) and a router with WEP security (because its da strongest..the russians told me so :) )
Its not like anyone has ever gone to jail for leaking highly classified information on purpose or neglecting to protect that information. Right? :) :)
The Red Cross also spends a large fraction of their income on "payroll and benefits", because most of the cost of charity work is paying the actual people doing the charity work. Look at Charity Navigator for the Red Cross vs. the Clinton Foundation--the breakdown of expenses is very similar and they both receive the same [highest] rating for a charity organization. They both spend about 90% of the money they take in on direct charity expenditures (programs)--that's how these things are rated and have always been rated.
The 6% thing has been *thoroughly* debunked. It was yet another manufactured conspiracy theory (remember when Obama was a Kenyan Muslim?) that served its purpose of firing up the mouth-breathers and then died a quiet death with a small print retraction on page 43 of the zeitgeist.
^mod parent up
this is true...Trump's campaign manager Paul Manafort had to quit because of ties with Russian Mobsters: http://www.cnn.com/2016/08/19/...
Idiots are to blame for Trump's victory...all kinds of idiots across the political spectrum contributed along the way, starting with idiot Democrats who voted for Hillary over Bernie....up to the idiot Republicans for being Republican...and of course let's not forget the idiot journalists of the MSM
Idiots are to blame
Keep dismissing our economic concerns ... keep losing.
"It's the economy stupid" Now, who said that first in the context of presidential politics?
BTW: the term 'idiots' is bigoted against the mentally disabled. Please stop using it if you actually believe your espoused leftist principles.
The suggestion is all that's needed to undermine and destabilize people's confidence in our government. For the Russians, there's no downside.
Slashdot only told part of the story. Russia claimed they had talked to both teams. Read it on CNN. Racheal Maddow did the same thing to make it more scandalous and stir up unrest. Pitiful.
http://www.cnn.com/2016/11/10/politics/russia-contact-trump-campaign/index.html
His model is the dictator of a country where the oligarchs live like kings, while the regular people live in abject poverty. I think that in time we will learn the full extent of Trump's ties with Putin but it may not be until it's too late.
When a nation-state crosses our borders against our wishes, with or without violence, or interferes with / damages our navy on the high seas, or interferes with / damages our aircraft in the air.
Yes, it's perfectly simple. That situation already exists: Russia. It doesn't matter, and I covered it completely: They won't attack, regardless of their ability to destroy us, because they would not survive the process. That's what a nuclear deterrent (stealthy, nuclear-armed missile submarines, minutes-from launch nuclear armed aircraft, nuclear-armed cruise missing carrying warships) does -- it makes MAD a reality, and that in turn holds back other nation-states.
Trade is a two-edged sword when you engage in it across lower production cost boundaries as we do. You get less expensive products, but you lose jobs. You try and raise a tariff or block a product outright, some jobs may come back, but the cost is up and the market will slow. And that's not even taking into account the jobs that won't come back because automation is now preferred over people if it's at all practical, and in many venues, it's very practical and only getting more so.
That's like saying that our attack on Iraq was like our attack on Hiroshima. It's nonsensical. The tools and the means and the objectives are completely different today. This isn't a "there's only one way to do this" issue; it is a very complex one with many subtleties. You need a comprehensive counter-argument, because I am not claiming this is simple on any front.
I agree. However, Trump voters have not reasonably accounted for the fire-resistance provided by congress. They aren't going to go along with Trump's attempt to burn it all down. It's already begun: Congress has reacted to Trump's "I'll impose term limits" idea with "oh, no you won't" and that's absolutely the end of that.
We can expect a lot more along those lines. For instance, if he tries to make any restrictive impact on free trade, he'll be raising the costs of products here. That in turn will slow the markets for the products, and the majority of jobs won't come back anyway, because first, lesser demand, and second, manufacture now uses automation everywhere it can. It doesn't take a genius to see this coming, and there are plenty of smart people on the staffs of congresscritters. Arbitrarily defund the ACA withotu providing a functionally equivalant replacement first? Sure. Leave the insurance companies in the financial lurch, and watch the fines for not having insurance continue to accrue anyway. Etc. Can't see it happening.
The match is mostly all wet; all I mostly expect is a load of butthurt from the low-information group that decided Trump was the answer to Washington's various warts and smelly parts.
You know what the president's primary domestic strength is? It's not in saying "we're going to do things there her new way", it's in saying "no, I veto this, you can't do this unless you can cobble up a super-majority." Bottom line, his ideas have to get through congress. If they are seen as damaging (and believe it or not, congress does look at that), they simply won't fly.
The things to seriously worry about here, if anything, are the changes that the republicans want to make that they can get Trump to agree with, not the other way around; and social changes that may cascade from the supreme court swinging right. A great deal of social progress cou
I've fallen off your lawn, and I can't get up.
You are the one "dismissing your economic concerns"
GOP policies are actively working against your concerns and it is killing our country. Trump and Republicans' policies are well known: cut taxes and reduce regulaltions
You know there's no law that companies have to pass higher profit onto you with higher wages?
Your policies are a proven scam, the Bush years proved it over and over
Thank you Dave Raggett
... Don't know what they were so worried about - Russia's peaceful now.
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Wait, were you joking? I can't really tell anymore.