Dunno about OS X, but it looks like it works now with 9 (see http://www.architosh.com/e-store/hardware/workstat ions.html, http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/video.html). With an iMac you can't, but with a regular mac I hope they get around to writing the driver for OSX soon. Or maybe they have? Or maybe you will? I believe they are open sourcing driver dev.
You make a fantastic point, and yet you miss the point you made!
Old VCRs are "very hard" to use. Recent VCRs have 'VCR+'? which lets you enter a number that corresponds to the show you want to watch and programs it for you. Modern VCRs set the clock for you automagically using a signal on the PBS? station. New VCRs let you select the show you want on a menu and record it for you AND record shows that it thinks you may want to see (tivo).
They're all "just VCRs" in the same way the 'OS' is "just an OS". But which would you rather use?
Apple is shooting for the new VCR model - hyper friendly.
Linux is, at best, a shotgun because it is aiming in different directions depending on the distro/person/time of day. I happen to like Mandrake...
Please. Yeah, that's the most expensive box you can buy from Apple right now. Note that you can buy a DUAL CPU box for $2500 (533Mhz G4's). Yeah, you can build an intel box for less, but it's nice to see a Unix vendor:-) ship a VERY nice dual CPU box for that amount. Note also that you can buy a bitchin' cool laptop for $2600.
dvdplay.exe says:
"There is no Windows 2000 compatible DVD decoder installed on this system. DVD decoder device or decoder software is required to play movies (a DVD drive alone is not sufficient).
If this computer could play DVD Videos before Windows 2000 was installed then your DVD decoder is not compatible with Windows 2000. You may be able to fix this problem by downloading new decoder software from your computer manufacturer. Please visit http://www.hardware-update.com using your Internet browser."
Which did not seem to help at all... I'll wressle with it - but it sure is a big hassle for something that should 'just work'. Hell, how many programs are out there that play CD's free?
All this noise about DeCSS, but I still can't play a DVD on my system. I just upgraded to W2K (for work) and lost my DVD player. I can't seem to find a free one anywhere - which is the point, I know... But with all the noise about this case I would think they were fighting something "REAL", not just some source code sippets.
At least the software pirate fights can point at real sites with real software that are stealing 'real sales'.
To sum up: Software piracy is fought, but I can still find crack programs and cracked software. "DeCSS laywers" fight "DeCSS distributors", and I still can't play my DVD. What's the deal?
(No, I don't approve of piracy - neither of software nor DVDs, I just wanna play my "Six-String Samurai" disk!)
People should be able to do anything that doesn't hurt others- which means that we should definitely have a war on drug addicts who murder, rape, rob, etc., but only on those people, not on harmless druggies...
Spamming hurts me in less tangible ways- they eat my time and my bandwidth
I can't believe nobody has called you on this.
Drug users (aka smokers, alcoholics, etc) "[hurt you] in less tangible ways-". They affect the cost of your healthcare & taxes.
It's a tough call - certainly harder than you make it out to be...
Come on, this is TOTALLY RADICAL!!! People are writing and installing apps to make their machine behave the way they want!!!
A couple of ""FACTS"":
1. The current set of mac users are the folks who are most resistent to change. Otherwise they would have left the platform long ago for a 'real OS' (or at least one that pretends to have protected memory, real multitasking, etc). Of course they're upset when Apple changes the way things work.
2. Apple is not going to care if these folks hack their OS this way. The folks with the beta now are either developers (not Apples real target market), or pirates (not Apples real target market). And why would they care if folks do this anyway? They never cared when folks installed inits/hacks before...
(disclaimers: I'm running OS X and OS X Server on the box I'm using now)
I'm still waiting for the 802.11 wireless linux handheld capable of displaying remote X applications, but it looks like we're getting closer.
It seems to me that VNC has been ported to the palm. Don't remember where I saw this, but you could certainly "use X apps" on your palm if this is true...
There is no such thing as a viable non-enforceable payment plan. Just ask makers of shareware.
Just ask anyone how much work it is to pay for shareware - or for the author to collect it. Isn't the idea behind paypal that this would be REALLY easy? I've thought about buying shareware in the past, but I'm a lazy bastard - and to write a check and mail it was more work to me than the software was worth...
I get my domain name for free! It was a pain finding the admin, but once there I just requested a name and they said sure... It's too bad that there is such inconsistency.
/usr/bin is for the same thing as
/usr/local/bin
/usr/gnu/bin
/bin
/sbin
/usr/sbin
/usr/local/sbin
/usr/X11/bin
/usr/local/X11/bin
etc, etc.
On my beloved NeXT machine (running OpenStep) it was
/[System,Local,Network]/[Library,Applications,so mething]./System was shipped by the OS vendor. The others were obvious. Apps when in the app directories. Nobody cared (except unix geeks like me) that there was also the/.../bin/... morass - all the programs were in obvious places.
I installed '95 and Mandrake last night. Mandrake was easier to install. Once installed, however, I'd say that Windows was easier to use. Linuxen just don't have a "/Program Files" concept down - and I think it is sorely missed.
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Dunno about OS X, but it looks like it works now with 9 (see http://www.architosh.com/e-store/hardware/workstat ions.html, http://www.xlr8yourmac.com/video.html). With an iMac you can't, but with a regular mac I hope they get around to writing the driver for OSX soon. Or maybe they have? Or maybe you will? I believe they are open sourcing driver dev.
Do you want 3D support? What a stupid question...
Mac FUD? Who'd have thunk...
You make a fantastic point, and yet you miss the point you made!
Old VCRs are "very hard" to use. Recent VCRs have 'VCR+'? which lets you enter a number that corresponds to the show you want to watch and programs it for you. Modern VCRs set the clock for you automagically using a signal on the PBS? station. New VCRs let you select the show you want on a menu and record it for you AND record shows that it thinks you may want to see (tivo).
They're all "just VCRs" in the same way the 'OS' is "just an OS". But which would you rather use?
Apple is shooting for the new VCR model - hyper friendly.
Linux is, at best, a shotgun because it is aiming in different directions depending on the distro/person/time of day. I happen to like Mandrake...
You'll need to up the memory for OSX, but do you think this is 'common man price' enough? (from their store page)
Imac
$899.00
400MHz
PowerPC G3
512K L2 cache
(at 160MHz)
64MB SDRAM
10GB Ultra ATA drive
CD-ROM
RAGE 128 Pro w/ 8MB
10/100BASE-T Ethernet
56K internal modem
15-inch display
Two USB ports
Two FireWire ports
As is true with most unixen, the makefiles need a little tweaking. But it has all the [open?]bsd stuff.
He didn't say it was a success, jackass, he said it rocked.
Please. Yeah, that's the most expensive box you can buy from Apple right now. Note that you can buy a DUAL CPU box for $2500 (533Mhz G4's). Yeah, you can build an intel box for less, but it's nice to see a Unix vendor :-) ship a VERY nice dual CPU box for that amount. Note also that you can buy a bitchin' cool laptop for $2600.
OK, enough commercial. Sorry.
It will be friendly out of the box. It won't be much Unix out of the box. Take it for a spin...
I hate floppy disks - they all go bad. I guess I abuse them.
:-)
My system is now in a state where I can't boot to linux without a floppy, and this terrified me. Then I realized
dd if=/dev/fd0 of=bootfloppy.img
works just as well as the other direction when you're installing the OS
Virtually all computers can boot from the network.
Except for PC's.
OK, so some of them can - if you have the right network card, right BIOS, etc, etc. Mac's can, SUN's can, etc, etc...
PC's just suck ('course, I'm using one now...)
dvdplay.exe says:
"There is no Windows 2000 compatible DVD decoder installed on this system. DVD decoder device or decoder software is required to play movies (a DVD drive alone is not sufficient).
If this computer could play DVD Videos before Windows 2000 was installed then your DVD decoder is not compatible with Windows 2000. You may be able to fix this problem by downloading new decoder software from your computer manufacturer. Please visit http://www.hardware-update.com using your Internet browser."
Which did not seem to help at all... I'll wressle with it - but it sure is a big hassle for something that should 'just work'. Hell, how many programs are out there that play CD's free?
At least the software pirate fights can point at real sites with real software that are stealing 'real sales'.
To sum up: Software piracy is fought, but I can still find crack programs and cracked software. "DeCSS laywers" fight "DeCSS distributors", and I still can't play my DVD. What's the deal?
(No, I don't approve of piracy - neither of software nor DVDs, I just wanna play my "Six-String Samurai" disk!)
People should be able to do anything that doesn't hurt others- which means that we should definitely have a war on drug addicts who murder, rape, rob, etc., but only on those people, not on harmless druggies...
Spamming hurts me in less tangible ways- they eat my time and my bandwidth
I can't believe nobody has called you on this.
Drug users (aka smokers, alcoholics, etc) "[hurt you] in less tangible ways-". They affect the cost of your healthcare & taxes.
It's a tough call - certainly harder than you make it out to be...
Come on, this is TOTALLY RADICAL!!! People are writing and installing apps to make their machine behave the way they want!!!
A couple of ""FACTS"":
1. The current set of mac users are the folks who are most resistent to change. Otherwise they would have left the platform long ago for a 'real OS' (or at least one that pretends to have protected memory, real multitasking, etc). Of course they're upset when Apple changes the way things work.
2. Apple is not going to care if these folks hack their OS this way. The folks with the beta now are either developers (not Apples real target market), or pirates (not Apples real target market). And why would they care if folks do this anyway? They never cared when folks installed inits/hacks before...
(disclaimers: I'm running OS X and OS X Server on the box I'm using now)
I'm still waiting for the 802.11 wireless linux handheld capable of displaying remote X applications, but it looks like we're getting closer.
It seems to me that VNC has been ported to the palm. Don't remember where I saw this, but you could certainly "use X apps" on your palm if this is true...
See also http://www.sector13.org/kaz in/ projects/dhcp_dns.html, though it looks like it is being obsoleted...
localhost% hostinfo
/bin
/dev
Mach kernel version:
Darwin Kernel Version 1.2:
Wed Aug 30 23:32:53 PDT 2000; root:xnu/xnu-103.obj~1/RELEASE_PPC
Kernel configured for up to 2 processors.
1 processor is physically available.
Processor type: ppc7400 (PowerPC 7400)
Processor active: 0
Primary memory available: 256.00 megabytes.
Default processor set: 58 tasks, 145 threads, 1 processors
Load average: 0.46, Mach factor: 0.84
localhost% ls
[* dd* hostname* pax* sh* zsh*
cat* df* kill* ps* sleep*
chmod* domainname* ln* pwd* stty*
cp* echo* ls* rcp* sync*
csh* ed* mkdir* rm* tcsh*
date* expr* mv* rmdir* test*
localhost% ls
bpf0 klog ptyq2 rdisk0s2 ttyp9
bpf1 kmem ptyq3 rdisk0s3 ttypa
bpf2 mem ptyq4 rdisk0s4 ttypb
bpf3 null ptyq5 rdisk0s5 ttypc
console nvram ptyq6 rdisk0s6 ttypd
disk0 ptyp0 ptyq7 rdisk0s7 ttype
disk0s1 ptyp1 ptyq8 rdisk0s8 ttypf
disk0s10 ptyp2 ptyq9 rdisk0s9 ttyq0
disk0s11 ptyp3 ptyqa stderr@ ttyq1
disk0s12 ptyp4 ptyqb stdin@ ttyq2
disk0s13 ptyp5 ptyqc stdout@ ttyq3
disk0s13s1 ptyp6 ptyqd tty ttyq4
disk0s14 ptyp7 ptyqe ttyd.irda-port ttyq5
disk0s15 ptyp8 ptyqf ttyd.modem ttyq6
disk0s2 ptyp9 rdisk0 ttyp0 ttyq7
disk0s3 ptypa rdisk0s1 ttyp1 ttyq8
disk0s4 ptypb rdisk0s10 ttyp2 ttyq9
disk0s5 ptypc rdisk0s11 ttyp3 ttyqa
disk0s6 ptypd rdisk0s12 ttyp4 ttyqb
disk0s7 ptype rdisk0s13 ttyp5 ttyqc
disk0s8 ptypf rdisk0s13s1 ttyp6 ttyqd
disk0s9 ptyq0 rdisk0s14 ttyp7 ttyqe
fd/ ptyq1 rdisk0s15 ttyp8 ttyqf
localhost% cc --version
2.7.2.1
I don't know - how Unix-like would you like it?
localhost% telnet localhost
Trying 127.0.0.1...
Connected to localhost.
Escape character is '^]'.
Darwin/BSD (localhost) (ttyp7)
login:
Death of the net predicted - news at 11.
Maybe a nice tombstone icon.
That way I could just ignore all the postings under that topic.
I thought everyone knew Novell was dead - since the late 80's!
:-)
Or was that Apple?
Or was that Castro?
I forget
Couldn't have said it better myself!
Boycott the P4 - buy AMD!
Just ask anyone how much work it is to pay for shareware - or for the author to collect it. Isn't the idea behind paypal that this would be REALLY easy? I've thought about buying shareware in the past, but I'm a lazy bastard - and to write a check and mail it was more work to me than the software was worth...
Actually, it is based on Mach with the 'BSD tools'. Where 'BSD tools' often means GNU tools.
I get my domain name for free! It was a pain finding the admin, but once there I just requested a name and they said sure... It's too bad that there is such inconsistency.
/usr/bin is for the same thing as
o mething]. /System was shipped by the OS vendor. The others were obvious. Apps when in the app directories. Nobody cared (except unix geeks like me) that there was also the /.../bin/... morass - all the programs were in obvious places.
/usr/local/bin
/usr/gnu/bin
/bin
/sbin
/usr/sbin
/usr/local/sbin
/usr/X11/bin
/usr/local/X11/bin
etc, etc.
On my beloved NeXT machine (running OpenStep) it was
/[System,Local,Network]/[Library,Applications,s
I installed '95 and Mandrake last night. Mandrake was easier to install. Once installed, however, I'd say that Windows was easier to use. Linuxen just don't have a "/Program Files" concept down - and I think it is sorely missed.