...as well as the new entry level models to compete more with Visor (which feature 25% smaller screens, but only a $150 price).
The wording of this is slightly confusing. The new Palms have a 25% smaller screen and a $150 price. The Visors have a full-sized screen and start at $150.
just in case you haven't the time to register. As a side note, I'd like to say that Slashdot's attitude is becoming more and more of a problem. Don't you think you should be praising companies when they release free software and not complaining because they won't give you the source code too?
I can think of no single person more deserving of this award than Jordan K. Hubbard of Walnut Creek/The FreeBSD Project. He is the ongoing force behind FreeBSD advocacy and deserves any recognition he gets.
Jordan is always more than willing to mail out free promotional materials whenever you need them, for whatever circumstances you may have. His willingness to help anyone out with FreeBSD is at the very least commendable, and his loyalty to the Project sets him apart from others.
As it stands, the current Slashdot interface is cluttered and somewhat unintuitive. What are your plans for redesigning Slashdot? A sans-serif font, better distinction between comments, and a revamp of color schemes for Slashdot Sections might be the first steps toward a more aesthetically-pleasing site.
Would you consider user-submitted layouts, or perhaps even implementing a 'theme' engine?
Or maybe a live view of the queue in which selected moderators rate the suggested articles higher or lower with, say, ten minutes to vote on each article after its initial submission. Then, when time is up, the article is posted automatically or thrown into the rejection pile.
So, as long as we only run Freecell, Solitaire, WordPad and Word, we need never worry that Windez will crash?:)
Correct.
And would invite more monopoly attitudes.
It doesn't have anything to do with these programs being written by Microsoft. It just so happens that Microsoft programs are, for the most part, stable. I could have said SecureCRT, for example. Or perhaps WordPerfect.
...due to the lack of source, stability, and customization available with Windows CE...
Why do people assume Windows CE is unstable and uncustomizable? Windows CE is well-suited for its task -- powering embedded devices on a number of architectures. It's actually a very stable OS, as any user will tell you; it's also very flexible, as any developer will tell you.
Many people don't realize that an operating system is only as stable as its applications. Windows is perfectly stable as long as you're running well-written (don't laugh) programs such as Office and the Windows Accessories. And just as third-party apps can crash Windows, a simple main() { while(1)fork(); } will bring down any Unix box.
There are already several ports of Doom to Windows CE-based Palm-size PCs. Since these handhelds run at a resolution of 320x200 when turned sideways, and since the newer models have 256- or 65,535-color LCDs and decent sound, the platform is more than ideal.
Unless you have never made a typo in your life, I suggest you relax on me accidentally hitting a Y.
Oh sure, I've made typos. But my point still stands: the average English Linux user can't spell, nor does he use his "mother tongue" correctly. You decided to stereotype BSD users, so I responded.
I thought mature people were above making fun of typoes.
I wasn't making fun of you in any sense of the phrase. Again, I was merely responding to your assumptions.
Either you have lived in a bomb shelter all your life (and thus been denied access to any sort of slang, verbal or written) or you are just an immature brat.
Perhaps I'm an immature brat -- I'm only 15. Of course I know and use slang; I was nitpicking to, again, make a counterpoint.
Try that one, English major:)
I'll take that as a compliment. Not many students my age are referred to as English majors by their superiors.
You shouldn't even take my comments seriously. My comments are posted to give hypocritical Linux users a view of just how overzealous they can sometimes be. After all, shouldn't you just shrug it off and refer to me as another "typical BSD user?":)
If we're going to stereotype, let's make it fair. The "typicaly[sic]" Linux user, judging from posts on Slashdot, cannot spell -- nor can he use the English language correctly.
For instance:
"...with someone and by doing so, prove their point?"
I do believe you mean "his" instead of "their." Of course, since political correctness is such an issue in this day in age, you might've said "his or her." Either way, someone is singular and their is plural.
Oh, and
"'Nuff said."
Since the apostrophe denotes omission of letters in a word or contraction, and since I'm not familiar with a word such as "enuff," I'll assume you mean "'Nough said."
This is an excellent point and I wish I'd made it earlier. FreeBSD's unity is one of the main reasons I use it -- I can get the latest source from a single CVS repository by issuing a single command, then rebuild the entire userland with a single command. I can also install any of over 3500 programs in the ports collection with a single command. If that's not unity then I'm not sure what is.
It is my understanding that the various Linux distributions each use different versions of libc, each come with different tools, et cetera. If this isn't fragmentation I don't know what is. Again -- hypocrisy.
I'll voluntarily end my posting to this thread here.
What amazes me is the sheer hypocrisy of Linux users. They endlessly chant about Microsoft controlling the OS market, about how they want "freedom of choice" of operating system. Yet they aim for world domination, and oppose anything "fragmented."
Also, please tell me how Linux is any less fragmented than the *BSD tree. I am aware of at least 20 distributions of Linux, and there are undoubtedly more out there.
You're exactly right. However, this is probably one of the main reasons Linux is so successful -- the overzealous advocates raise morale inside the community, "empower" the users, and all becomes wonderful.
Why is it that every time an article like this is posted on Slashdot, the other free, open-source Unices (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, etc.) are blatantly omitted? Keep on writing like this and you'll have every Joe Linuxuser thinking that FreeBSD is a Linux distribution -- if he even knows it exists at all.
How about making your articles less Linux-centric? After all, aren't we "all in this together?" Isn't it "all about choice?"
Slashdot Mirror
Looks like the poster didn't remove his session ID from the link. Now all of Slashdot seems to be adding to a universal cart.
At one point the total was well over $150,000.
Don't forget 'enables' -- yet another buzzword.
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Instead of buying next(fuck you Steve Jobs, I'm not playing the little "e" game). Apple should have bought Be...
Hmm. NeXT, BeOS -- what am I missing?
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I was trying to be nice.. ;)
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...as well as the new entry level models to compete more with Visor (which feature 25% smaller screens, but only a $150 price).
The wording of this is slightly confusing. The new Palms have a 25% smaller screen and a $150 price. The Visors have a full-sized screen and start at $150.
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The spelling publically has long been deprecated. Use publicly instead.
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That's the point.
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Brett,
:)
I do hope you voted for jkh.
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I can think of no single person more deserving of this award than Jordan K. Hubbard of Walnut Creek/The FreeBSD Project. He is the ongoing force behind FreeBSD advocacy and deserves any recognition he gets.
Jordan is always more than willing to mail out free promotional materials whenever you need them, for whatever circumstances you may have. His willingness to help anyone out with FreeBSD is at the very least commendable, and his loyalty to the Project sets him apart from others.
Jordan is my vote for Unsung Hero.
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As it stands, the current Slashdot interface is cluttered and somewhat unintuitive. What are your plans for redesigning Slashdot? A sans-serif font, better distinction between comments, and a revamp of color schemes for Slashdot Sections might be the first steps toward a more aesthetically-pleasing site.
Would you consider user-submitted layouts, or perhaps even implementing a 'theme' engine?
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Slashdot needs a rejected articles archive.
Or maybe a live view of the queue in which selected moderators rate the suggested articles higher or lower with, say, ten minutes to vote on each article after its initial submission. Then, when time is up, the article is posted automatically or thrown into the rejection pile.
What do you think?
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And would invite more monopoly attitudes.
I was just trying to make a point.
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...due to the lack of source, stability, and customization available with Windows CE...
Why do people assume Windows CE is unstable and uncustomizable? Windows CE is well-suited for its task -- powering embedded devices on a number of architectures. It's actually a very stable OS, as any user will tell you; it's also very flexible, as any developer will tell you.
Many people don't realize that an operating system is only as stable as its applications. Windows is perfectly stable as long as you're running well-written (don't laugh) programs such as Office and the Windows Accessories. And just as third-party apps can crash Windows, a simple main() { while(1)fork(); } will bring down any Unix box.
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There are already several ports of Doom to Windows CE-based Palm-size PCs. Since these handhelds run at a resolution of 320x200 when turned sideways, and since the newer models have 256- or 65,535-color LCDs and decent sound, the platform is more than ideal.
I think there's one variation of a port at http://www.jimmy.com/.
-Sam
>> So I wish the *BSD people here could push with more force...
Well, we try, but we may as well hit our heads against a brick wall -- the Linux users always scream FUD.
Tell your friends to loosen up.
-Sam
I thought mature people were above making fun of typoes.
Either you have lived in a bomb shelter all your life (and thus been denied access to any sort of slang, verbal or written) or you are just an immature brat.
Try that one, English major
You shouldn't even take my comments seriously. My comments are posted to give hypocritical Linux users a view of just how overzealous they can sometimes be. After all, shouldn't you just shrug it off and refer to me as another "typical BSD user?"
-Sam
For instance:
Oh, and
Hey -- I'm just trying to be fair.
-Sam
> [...] why don't *you* write an intelligent piece espousing *your* point of view and send it to me?
OK. Chances are it won't be covered by Slashdot, but it'll make me feel better to write it.
-Sam
This is an excellent point and I wish I'd made it earlier. FreeBSD's unity is one of the main reasons I use it -- I can get the latest source from a single CVS repository by issuing a single command, then rebuild the entire userland with a single command. I can also install any of over 3500 programs in the ports collection with a single command. If that's not unity then I'm not sure what is.
-Sam
> All Linux distros use the same kernel.
OK, so kernel == operating system now?
It is my understanding that the various Linux distributions each use different versions of libc, each come with different tools, et cetera. If this isn't fragmentation I don't know what is. Again -- hypocrisy.
I'll voluntarily end my posting to this thread here.
-Sam
What amazes me is the sheer hypocrisy of Linux users. They endlessly chant about Microsoft controlling the OS market, about how they want "freedom of choice" of operating system. Yet they aim for world domination, and oppose anything "fragmented."
Also, please tell me how Linux is any less fragmented than the *BSD tree. I am aware of at least 20 distributions of Linux, and there are undoubtedly more out there.
-Sam
You're exactly right. However, this is probably one of the main reasons Linux is so successful -- the overzealous advocates raise morale inside the community, "empower" the users, and all becomes wonderful.
-Sam
Why is it that every time an article like this is posted on Slashdot, the other free, open-source Unices (FreeBSD, NetBSD, OpenBSD, etc.) are blatantly omitted? Keep on writing like this and you'll have every Joe Linuxuser thinking that FreeBSD is a Linux distribution -- if he even knows it exists at all.
How about making your articles less Linux-centric? After all, aren't we "all in this together?" Isn't it "all about choice?"
-Sam