"The key is "market share", which is a percentage of units sold over a particular period of time."
Sure, so I sell you a license for 100,000 units of drew's custom distro. This gives you the right to use my brand icons and super special colour schemes on up to 100,000 copies of the distro of your choice.
And for an unlimited time, this special bonus offer. You can receive absolutely gratis (free for those wondering) the right to make another 100,000 and so on simply by sending me an email telling me you will be doing so.
OK, so should we try this and report all these hundreds of thousands of shipments?
"Why are there no accountable unique and timestamped receipts provided to every electronic voter and some secure method with which they could later review them?"
So that they can't be forced to vote a certain way or else?
"In oregon, all votes are mailed back to each respective county clerk."
And how do you ensure a secret ballot in the system you outlined? If the voter wants it to be non-secret or is being pressured to prove his ballot by some third party...
"And if you like one particular form of art, or a particular artist, there's no "switching" the way there is for software."
I agree but we only have 24 hours in a day each. It may be possible to find enough that we like in the artistic dimension that we also like from a community point of view.
If we find enough to fill our time, it may make no practical difference. Time will tell.
"A service that could keep the record companies afloat is if they opened their collections completely, flat rate.10$ per download. And if you lost the songs, another.10$. Dont keep records of who bought what, too much bookkeeping, and it's just a dime. I just wonder how much money they would make on that kind of deal..."
Well, I have been saying 5 cents for years but 10 might work fine. But they need to do it soon. If they wait too long, I will have given up on my old loves and be playing only with music having Free licenses. That's mostly where I am now due to the fat pricing, but at 5 or 10 cents and giving up on their other "bad ways", I might go on a buying spree of old classics and some of the new stuff.
2.b Students will have 24hr online streaming access to the university library, so long as they play/view one work at a time.
Should this not be:
2.b Students will have 24hr online streaming access to the university library, so long as a particular legit copy of a particular work is only played/viewed by one person at a time.
"(2) develop a plan for offering alternatives to illegal downloading or peer-to-peer distribution of intellectual property as well as a plan to explore technology-based deterrents to prevent such illegal activity."
Here is the beginnings of one such plan...
2.a. When it comes to music, music that does not have a Free License is not allowed on the campus networks. Net even legally purchased music if it doesn't have a Free License.
2.b. The University has set up a server at freemusic.university.edu where we host music with licenses as described in 2.a.
"It is false advertising. Just like the other day, where I asked a free man to do some work for me. And he asked me in return how much I was willing to pay him. Pay? But he was supposed to be free!"
Hey this false advertising thing runs deep...
I went down to the free market the other day but everyone wanted money for the stuff they had on display! Go figure!
"If you were presumed to be innocent then you would be free to go do as you pleased because everyone believes you to be innocent until proven otherwise."
I get your overall drift, but this doesn't follow. Being presumed innocent has nothing to do with what everyone believes of the situation.
Plus, even being found not guilty after a trial does not mean that you were in fact innocent.
"Oh, that's right. When people copy your stuff without permission that suddenly becomes stealing. But taking other people's stuff is OK, right? Right?"
First make the argument based on things I have published and we can go from there.
"iTunes is getting competition, and may be forced to lower their prices. iTunes may also decide to give up on their DRM, the lock-in is broken up by the supply side and there is no need for them to put on the DRM."
Does iTunes' present contract allow them to lower the prices?
Does iTunes' present contract allow them to drop the DRM?
"Those of you who feel that the free market has no recourse against the large corporation and cartel, take note - this is the voting power of your dollar at work. Or, the lack of the dollar thereof, specifically."
Hardly.
These are not Free Market Goods but rather goods protected by government granted monopolies...
Plus, this is not as a result of customer anything in my book, but rather an attempt by the music companies to take back the control over the business they gave to Apple by mistake. (Without realizing exactly the outcome of what they were doing.)
"Alright. I've said it OVER and OVER and OVER. And I still mean it. If you want to help Linux double it's presence in the small business sector, get a rock solid, customized, easy to use WINE installer for Quickbooks and make it compatible with new versions within 90 days."
Sure, until MS gets Intuit to break it.
I have been running quickbooks for clients on samba servers for years. Then I see that new versions of QB will no longer run on samba servers. Now, I am not so much into that market anymore that I have tested it for myself, but certainly one of my client's has recently asked about this and been told it will not.
If this is the case, why in the world would Intuit purposefully break functionality in this way?
I still have a small hope that the client might find a suitable replacement for QB, but I am not very optimistic...
So, what I see as a better solution than your's if for a Free Software replacement to come on the scene that can suck in a client's QB data once...
"I agree. I think the ballot should be as secret as you want it to be, no more. People should be able to at the very least check their *own* votes."
It does come to the vote buying but to more than that as well.
A husband forcing his wife to vote how he likes, Companies firing employees for voting in ways that would harm the company's bottom line... Use your imagination.
Since pretty much everything these days is automatically copyrighted at the time of creation or fixing, I guess the days of network congestion will soon be pretty much over then?
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"The key is "market share", which is a percentage of units sold over a particular period of time."
Sure, so I sell you a license for 100,000 units of drew's custom distro. This gives you the right to use my brand icons and super special colour schemes on up to 100,000 copies of the distro of your choice.
And for an unlimited time, this special bonus offer. You can receive absolutely gratis (free for those wondering) the right to make another 100,000 and so on simply by sending me an email telling me you will be doing so.
OK, so should we try this and report all these hundreds of thousands of shipments?
all the best,
drew
"I'm using a laptop that shipped with WinXP and never even booted into that OS"
Same here.
currently running ubuntu studio on that one.
all the best,
drew
"Why are there no accountable unique and timestamped receipts provided to every electronic voter and some secure method with which they could later review them?"
So that they can't be forced to vote a certain way or else?
all the best,
drew
"In oregon, all votes are mailed back to each respective county clerk."
And how do you ensure a secret ballot in the system you outlined? If the voter wants it to be non-secret or is being pressured to prove his ballot by some third party...
all the best,
drew
"Somebody who downloads his music isn't his customer, by definition."
That's a bit of a stretch.
all the best,
drew
"And if you like one particular form of art, or a particular artist, there's no "switching" the way there is for software."
I agree but we only have 24 hours in a day each. It may be possible to find enough that we like in the artistic dimension that we also like from a community point of view.
If we find enough to fill our time, it may make no practical difference. Time will tell.
all the best,
drew
"By wresting away, you mean paid you for them?"
No, I don't mean being paid for them, I mean having them taken when going bankrupt as an example.
all the best,
drew
"A service that could keep the record companies afloat is if they opened their collections completely, flat rate .10$ per download. And if you lost the songs, another .10$. Dont keep records of who bought what, too much bookkeeping, and it's just a dime. I just wonder how much money they would make on that kind of deal..."
Well, I have been saying 5 cents for years but 10 might work fine. But they need to do it soon. If they wait too long, I will have given up on my old loves and be playing only with music having Free licenses. That's mostly where I am now due to the fat pricing, but at 5 or 10 cents and giving up on their other "bad ways", I might go on a buying spree of old classics and some of the new stuff.
all the best,
drew
"and those who are about the art and didn't want their 'product' becoming essentially worthless, it's a challenge they aren't up to facing."
So, like what, if you are about the art, the only value your art can have is along monetary lines?
Free The Art (Sep 29/07)
Free the Art and
Free the Artists
Let's break loose and
Let's get started
Change the world and
Make it better
There may be crying but
We'll cry together
Tired of waiting on
Promised changes
Come together and
Let's rearrange it
You can use those lyrics under a Creative Commons BY-SA 3.0 US license.
Set you art Free, if you are only about the art. Now, if you are about the money as well, you might want to think a bit more before you do it.
Protect your right to profit from your own art even if someone wrests your copyrights away from you somehow.
all the best,
drew
I agree with you, hence my joke. Or attempt at a joke in any case...
It really is a curvy sort of statement to make isn't it?
all the best,
drew
Dude! You need to take remedial Geekonomics! ~;-)
all the best,
drew
2.b Students will have 24hr online streaming access to the university library, so long as they play/view one work at a time.
Should this not be:
2.b Students will have 24hr online streaming access to the university library, so long as a particular legit copy of a particular work is only played/viewed by one person at a time.
all the best,
drew
"Most of the "free" music out there comes under the not-so-free Creative Commons non-commercial license. It is semi-free."
Although there might be more than we think. For instance:
http://ccmixter.org/media/tags/attribution
http://ccmixter.org/media/playlist/browse/44
Indeed. So...
2.c. We will seek additional Federal Funding to assist in funding the creation of such Free Licensed music.
How much more of the alphabet will we need?
all the best,
drew
"(2) develop a plan for offering alternatives to illegal downloading or peer-to-peer distribution of intellectual property as well as a plan to explore technology-based deterrents to prevent such illegal activity."
Here is the beginnings of one such plan...
2.a. When it comes to music, music that does not have a Free License is not allowed on the campus networks. Net even legally purchased music if it doesn't have a Free License.
2.b. The University has set up a server at freemusic.university.edu where we host music with licenses as described in 2.a.
all the best,
drew
"It is false advertising. Just like the other day, where I asked a free man to do some work for me. And he asked me in return how much I was willing to pay him. Pay? But he was supposed to be free!"
Hey this false advertising thing runs deep...
I went down to the free market the other day but everyone wanted money for the stuff they had on display! Go figure!
all the best,
drew
This is certainly true, innocent people can be and are found guilty.
So, being found not guilty or guilty speaks to your state before the law, not to your state in fact. Right?
The law presumes you innocent. You may actually be innocent or you may actually be guilty.
The law then finds you guilty... You may actually be innocent or you may actually be guilty.
or...
The law then finds you no guilty... You may actually be innocent or you may actually be guilty.
all the best,
drew
"If you were presumed to be innocent then you would be free to go do as you pleased because everyone believes you to be innocent until proven otherwise."
I get your overall drift, but this doesn't follow. Being presumed innocent has nothing to do with what everyone believes of the situation.
Plus, even being found not guilty after a trial does not mean that you were in fact innocent.
all the best,
drew
You misunderstand. I mean make the argument based on work I have published and not work I have not published.
You are speaking of works that others have published and so it is not valid to compare to works others have not published.
all the best,
drew
"Oh, that's right. When people copy your stuff without permission that suddenly becomes stealing. But taking other people's stuff is OK, right? Right?"
First make the argument based on things I have published and we can go from there.
all the best,
drew
"iTunes is getting competition, and may be forced to lower their prices. iTunes may also decide to give up on their DRM, the lock-in is broken up by the supply side and there is no need for them to put on the DRM."
Does iTunes' present contract allow them to lower the prices?
Does iTunes' present contract allow them to drop the DRM?
all the best,
drew
"Those of you who feel that the free market has no recourse against the large corporation and cartel, take note - this is the voting power of your dollar at work. Or, the lack of the dollar thereof, specifically."
Hardly.
These are not Free Market Goods but rather goods protected by government granted monopolies...
Plus, this is not as a result of customer anything in my book, but rather an attempt by the music companies to take back the control over the business they gave to Apple by mistake. (Without realizing exactly the outcome of what they were doing.)
all the best,
drew
"Alright. I've said it OVER and OVER and OVER. And I still mean it. If you want to help Linux double it's presence in the small business sector, get a rock solid, customized, easy to use WINE installer for Quickbooks and make it compatible with new versions within 90 days."
Sure, until MS gets Intuit to break it.
I have been running quickbooks for clients on samba servers for years. Then I see that new versions of QB will no longer run on samba servers. Now, I am not so much into that market anymore that I have tested it for myself, but certainly one of my client's has recently asked about this and been told it will not.
If this is the case, why in the world would Intuit purposefully break functionality in this way?
I still have a small hope that the client might find a suitable replacement for QB, but I am not very optimistic...
So, what I see as a better solution than your's if for a Free Software replacement to come on the scene that can suck in a client's QB data once...
all the best,
drew
"I agree. I think the ballot should be as secret as you want it to be, no more. People should be able to at the very least check their *own* votes."
It does come to the vote buying but to more than that as well.
A husband forcing his wife to vote how he likes, Companies firing employees for voting in ways that would harm the company's bottom line... Use your imagination.
Now, as to which is better on balance...
all the best,
drew
"Only creative works are copyrightable. You could not, for instance, claim copyright on a number."
Sure, except that pretty much every file that gets transferred over a network is one humungous number right? Leave off the pretty much if you like...
all the best,
drew
Since pretty much everything these days is automatically copyrighted at the time of creation or fixing, I guess the days of network congestion will soon be pretty much over then?
all the best,
drew