Errrr... there's no such thing. While some people prefer the traditional King James version (I'm pretty sure that would be an English version) most people use one or another flavor of the New International Version or one of twenty or thirty other translations.
Yes, they want to ban new landmines - but the destruction of old minefields was also part of the treaty.
Also, wikipedia (for what it's worth) indicates that none of the large military powers have signed the treaty. I had thought the US was the lone hold out.
IIRC, there is a UN convention banning land mines. Also IIRC, the USA did not sign it because they wanted a grandfather clause for the no-man's land between north and south korea - that area has been so heavily mined I don't think anyone wants to think about trying to remove them all.
Oh I see, it must be politically motivated then, and therefore nothing more than those wacky liberals who hate Bush.
No, it's nothing more than mindless mayflies who think they can solve the problem by blaming Bush.
Forgive me, but to read, today, that domestic spying by the NSA is somehow Bush's creation when the stories and rumors about it go back thirty years or more - to read that today says more about the ignorance of the American people than it does about the malfeasence of one particular president.
Actually, read some of the other replies to my comment. I was hoping that by insulting Bush I'd deflect criticism that I was a merely a republican stooge parroting FN talking points. Sadly, I was wrong.
I know, I know... The facts are liberal. Go turn on Fox News and keep away from nasty "facts".
Yeah, yeah. I've never voted for Bush in my life, but I'm a conservative stooge for pointing out that this problem has been with us for a long time but people like you want to blame Bush because you either have (1) no knowledge of history or (2) no intellectual honesty.
As for Echelon being solely outside the US - how do you know that, seeing how the NSA has never admitted it's existence?
I especially find it amusing that you seem to think that it was okay for the US government to engage in the wholesale survellience of telecommunications as long as they were only monitoring foreigners.
Please explain to me the legal authorization for Echelon - a program which the NSA denied having for many years and which drove the Europeans, and some Americans, nuts because it violated every legal standard?
Actually, please explain how Echelon was legal but the current program is not.
I like how people keep saying "in the months before 9/11". As if these programs were instituted by der furher the day he was inaugurated. The truth is that these programs have been going on for years but none of you cared.
1. Carnivore first hit slashdot during the Clinton Administration. The oldest reference I found on slashdot is about Earthlink refusing to install it in 2000 - which means it had been in development for several years before that.
2. The legendary "Echelon" - the NSA program for monitoring all telecom traffic has been bandied about for many years - Slashdot posted several articles about it in May of 1999 but the news about it first broke in 1998. The program itself is probably 50 years old.
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I had assumed that the treaty wasn't in force since the US hadn't ratified it.
You do realize that if McKinnon had hacked French computers, the French would have extradited him in exactly the same manner?
In addition, there has been at least one case in the past few years where the UK extradited an American to face trial in the UK?
Most of the countries in the world have extradition treaties with each other. What "special relationship" do you think is needed?
He didn't break any UK laws - so why would UK courts punish him?
The King James is the only one using obsolete English - the others, being modern translations, use modern English.
Errrr... there's no such thing. While some people prefer the traditional King James version (I'm pretty sure that would be an English version) most people use one or another flavor of the New International Version or one of twenty or thirty other translations.
Mom must have one hell of a hot plate, seeing how pahsteh is the correct pronunciation.
It might also be relevant to know that mom hasn't cooked me a meal in a quarter century.
I've always pronounced it dikshunary.
I've never heard it pronounced in any way except "pahstah"
Yes, they want to ban new landmines - but the destruction of old minefields was also part of the treaty.
Also, wikipedia (for what it's worth) indicates that none of the large military powers have signed the treaty. I had thought the US was the lone hold out.
IIRC, there is a UN convention banning land mines. Also IIRC, the USA did not sign it because they wanted a grandfather clause for the no-man's land between north and south korea - that area has been so heavily mined I don't think anyone wants to think about trying to remove them all.
Oh I see, it must be politically motivated then, and therefore nothing more than those wacky liberals who hate Bush.
No, it's nothing more than mindless mayflies who think they can solve the problem by blaming Bush.
Forgive me, but to read, today, that domestic spying by the NSA is somehow Bush's creation when the stories and rumors about it go back thirty years or more - to read that today says more about the ignorance of the American people than it does about the malfeasence of one particular president.
I blame Bush for what he has done. Seems pretty simple and straight forward. You want to give him a pass...
ROTFL!
Ah, pure paranoia.
Please point to where, any where, in my posts where I said that the spying was good or that Bush should be given a "pass".
You do realize that the fact that I think the people on this forum have the attention spans of mayflies does not make me a Republican? Don't you?
Or is towing the slashdot line now part of the Democratic Party Dogma?
Actually, read some of the other replies to my comment. I was hoping that by insulting Bush I'd deflect criticism that I was a merely a republican stooge parroting FN talking points. Sadly, I was wrong.
Yet, reading the comments in this thread, I doubt that memory is shared by 25% of the people posting here.
I know, I know... The facts are liberal. Go turn on Fox News and keep away from nasty "facts".
Yeah, yeah. I've never voted for Bush in my life, but I'm a conservative stooge for pointing out that this problem has been with us for a long time but people like you want to blame Bush because you either have (1) no knowledge of history or (2) no intellectual honesty.
As for Echelon being solely outside the US - how do you know that, seeing how the NSA has never admitted it's existence?
I especially find it amusing that you seem to think that it was okay for the US government to engage in the wholesale survellience of telecommunications as long as they were only monitoring foreigners.
What oversight was Echelon subjected to - especially since the NSA has never even admitted that it exists?
Please explain to me the legal authorization for Echelon - a program which the NSA denied having for many years and which drove the Europeans, and some Americans, nuts because it violated every legal standard?
Actually, please explain how Echelon was legal but the current program is not.
No, he's not.
Neither is ignorance nor selective recall.
If you don't understand why something has happened how can you correct it?
I like how people keep saying "in the months before 9/11". As if these programs were instituted by der furher the day he was inaugurated. The truth is that these programs have been going on for years but none of you cared.
1. Carnivore first hit slashdot during the Clinton Administration. The oldest reference I found on slashdot is about Earthlink refusing to install it in 2000 - which means it had been in development for several years before that.
2. The legendary "Echelon" - the NSA program for monitoring all telecom traffic has been bandied about for many years - Slashdot posted several articles about it in May of 1999 but the news about it first broke in 1998. The program itself is probably 50 years old.
I don't know that I agree with you - but you've put some thought into it. Sorry for underestimating you.
I also read the article. If you had passed English you would know what an "Instant Messaging Icon" is.
By the way - great job insulting people who were only answering the question YOU ASKED.
Bone head.
There have been cases where parents were thrown in jail for failure to control their children, but they're rare.
Heh. If I had gotten myself suspended for a semester my dad would have kicked my a** so hard it would still be hurting now, 25 years later.
Children are not considered independent citizens - that's why parents can be held legally responsible for their actions.
this kid was lined up for a Harvard scholarship.
There's always community college.