I'd fly on a replica Hindenburg in a heartbeat. Especially if it could be filled with helium, as it was originally designed for. But hell, I'd take my chances with hydrogen and a smoking lounge for the thrill of it.
(The US controlled the world's supply of helium, and they were worried about military uses of Zeppelins, so they wouldn't sell any to Germany at the time.)
whereas "actual" climate change doesn't care what time of day it is.
This isn't quite right. One of the main predictions of climate change from CO2 (predicted since the 1850s or so) is that nights will warm more than days, and winters more than summers. Windmills sound like they may cause a similar smoothing effect on temperatures - though of course, since they don't actually trap any more heat in the system, it isn't nearly as nasty (nor is it remotely as irreversible).
The IPCC projection does not take calving (in other words, glaciers gliding off into the sea as opposed to just melting) into account. It is thus a superconservative estimate. Observed sea level rise is already above it.
Of course, this map would be boring without the option to enter really spectacular numbers. 1m sea level rise may mean millions are displaced or die, but it doesn't look very impressive on a map.
it would cost me dramatically more money if it didn't crack my ability to keep my job completely and drive me into poverty.
The nice thing about political intervention, then, is that it affects everyone and not just you. This means your employer couldn't just ditch you in favour of the lout who kept driving his suv, because the lout would be on the same subway train as you.
Which, indcidentally, owing to more people using it, would be a lot less expensive and more regular than what PT you have today.
On the other hand, AGW proponents want us to change transportation, construction, agriculture, etc, making almost everything in life more expensive.
James Hansen (among others) want carbon taxes to be revenue neutral: a steep tax, and a kickback based on your fair share of the commons CO2 is polluting. If you burn less carbon than average, you make money of the tax.
But let's say worst comes to worst. Let's say everything becomes more expensive. GDP is halved! Horrors! That would put our living standard back to 1993 or so! I was a teen in 1993, and I can tell you it was dreadful!
(Yeah, I know that's a bit crude analogy. But point is: The world is, in the relevant ways, stinking rich. We can afford to pay our evironmental bills, even if they will hurt.)
I mean, a tax on plastic grocery bags?
You reveal your ignorance. Such taxes have nothing to do with CO2 (the carbon cost of a plastic bag is utterly insignificant), but with plastic pollution.
It also helps that we didn't have to dismantle civilization to get rid of CFCs.
Ha! That is not what the CFC producing industries and their henchmen said at the time. They painted the devil on the wall, just as the carbon fuel producing industries do today.
The henchmen, by the way, are largely the same. Heard of S. Fred Singer? Sallie Baliunas? Both ozone/CFC denialists before they became global warming/CO2 denialists. How did the business press meet the claims that CFC gases might cause a disaster? Exactly as they met (and meet) the global warming problem: with "chicken little" ridicule, and op eds drawing on right-wing think tanks for arguments that we don't really know anything, and in any case doing something about it would be an economic disaster.
Who are the real alarmists here? Those predicting doom if we don't adress a huge problem well-documented with physics, or those who predict doom if we do based on documentation from think-tank vapors?
Do you know how old Lovelock is? He's 93. He sometimes spoke without thinking even in his best years. What you're seeing here is the media jumping at the possibility of keeping the "controversy" alive.
In reality, Lovelock's previous book (where he pictured mankind being decimated and only the poles being inhabitable) was viewed as an over the top doomsday scenario by climate scientists. (Lovelock was never a climate scientist, and he has absolutely no right to apologize on anyone else's behalf.)
You, jmorris42, are full of shit. If you have an "anti-civilization bias", politics is the last place you will want to be. No one wants to "dismantle civilization", that is such a huge, flaming straw man you'd think you were at the Burning Man festival or something.
Your words reveal only that rejection of AGW is a political tribal marker for you, and you can't be reasoned with. Anyone who does not support your program wants to dismantle civilization/hates america. But for the benefit of less brainwashed people: Over the last 40 years...
1. Nights are warming faster than days. This is evidence that more heat is being trapped. If more heat was being input (e.g, "it's the sun"), you'd expect the opposite.
2. Winters are warming faster than summers. This is evidence that more heat is being trapped. If more heat was being input, you'd expect the opposite.
3. Oxygen levels in the atmosphere are decreasing. Not by very much, obviously, but by as much as you would expect from the burning of fossil fuels. This is evidence CO2 increase is primarily caused directly by humans (not, say, volcanoes, or the oceans).
4. The isotope composition of CO2 in the air has changed. It reveals that the increase comes from burning of fossil fuels - carbon that has been stored for milennia as coal, oil and gas have a different composition than CO2 from, say, volcanoes or the ocean.
5. Less heat is radiated to space. This has been measured directly by satelites. This is evidence that more heat is being trapped, and it's the opposite of what you'd expect from e.g. increased solar input.
6. More heat is radiated from the atmosphere to the ground. If the indirect evidence of that in 1. and 2. is not good enough for you, you'll be glad to know this can be (and has been) directly measured.
7. If you remember high school physics, you know that the absorption specrtra of infrared radiation observed at these two places (the surface, satelites) can tell us a lot about which gases are absorbing and reemitting radiation (and, with historical data, the change) Guess which gases are responsible for the increased insulation? That's right, the anthropogenic greenhouse gases.
The is no room to say humans aren't causing the CO2 increase. There's no room to say the warming doesn't come from increased greenhouse effect. There is absolutely no room to say the planet isn't warming at all, like you do jmorris42, but I suppose if you approach this as a bargaining situation, you want to start with as outrageous a suggestion as possible.
But never mind! James Lovelock (93) has confessed! I have a confession to make too, in the same vein: In a few minutes a few years ago, I may have entertained the notion that global warming might not be happening. But now I realize that I, and people like jmorris42, were wrong, and I'd like to apologize on behalf of me, and jmorris42. We were wrong.
You're not alone. But what I can't understand, is why otherwise smart people like David Braben don't understand the economics of Gamestop:
The knowledge that they can sell (or trade in) the game at Gamestop when they're done with it, makes some customers buy games at full price who otherwise wouldn't. Gamestop effectively allows publishers to price discriminate, which is a very profitable thing to when you sell a product with near zero marginal cost of reproduction. True, Gamestop takes itself a big slice of that pie, but publishers could get into that business if they wanted to, or they could undercut it by reducing prices on used and less popular games.
Gamestop also reveals so many of the other lies of game publishers. There's very little piracy on the Nintendo DS, so DS games should be cheaper than Windows games, right? After all, piracy makes games more expensive! But you can go see for yourself that DS games, even used, sell for as high or higher than PC titles.
I actually prefer to talk to, and be surrounded by, people who are assholes. I think they're more fun, and I couldn't give less of a fuck about being insulted by some random dipshit on the internet.
black_visions explicity stated that it was not the trolls driving him to it, and he had been suicidal for a long time. On reddit he was trying to revive or find a similar place to the usenet group alt.suicide.holiday ("ash"), a hangout for suicidal people who don't want to be talked out of it.
From looking at his old posts on alt.suicide.holiday (which he wrote a lot about on reddit), I'm confident dark_visions has/had no 20-year old daughter, nor any ex-wife.
Hopefully (and let's not be overly pessimistic: realistically) automatic systems like these will only be used to target chats for further investigation.
If worst comes to worst, they haven't replaced the legal system with a text analysis system yet.
Altinn has had problems handling the load on these dates (when people do their taxes) for years.
My guess it's that a caching solution has been hurriedly pushed onto a system poorly set up for it, and accidentally set up to cache login credentials. When the credentials storage method is the right(wrong) type, a single-character typo in Varnish can be enough to do that, causing disaster.
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Doesn't matter, cheaper tickets for me on the Hindenburg Zwei!
Hindenburg, now that's another matter. It was actually more or less as big as Titanic.
Ahem. I can find plenty of quite pretty ladies here:
https://www.google.no/search?q=renaissance+faire&hl=en&prmd=imvns&source=lnms&tbm=isch&ei=xaefT-iMJq2P4gStmuitAw&sa=X&oi=mode_link&ct=mode&cd=2&ved=0CBsQ_AUoAQ&biw=1472&bih=734
I'd fly on a replica Hindenburg in a heartbeat. Especially if it could be filled with helium, as it was originally designed for. But hell, I'd take my chances with hydrogen and a smoking lounge for the thrill of it.
(The US controlled the world's supply of helium, and they were worried about military uses of Zeppelins, so they wouldn't sell any to Germany at the time.)
This isn't quite right. One of the main predictions of climate change from CO2 (predicted since the 1850s or so) is that nights will warm more than days, and winters more than summers. Windmills sound like they may cause a similar smoothing effect on temperatures - though of course, since they don't actually trap any more heat in the system, it isn't nearly as nasty (nor is it remotely as irreversible).
The IPCC projection does not take calving (in other words, glaciers gliding off into the sea as opposed to just melting) into account. It is thus a superconservative estimate. Observed sea level rise is already above it.
Of course, this map would be boring without the option to enter really spectacular numbers. 1m sea level rise may mean millions are displaced or die, but it doesn't look very impressive on a map.
Try googling "plane map".
By comparison, try asking siri "which ships are in port right now?" and googling "ship map".
Consider the possibility that you're impressed by hardcoded displays, rather than sophisticated algorithms.
Yeah, it was so inaccessible when it required going to a web page.
Ugh, that should be lisp, of course. You are about Forth talking?
Talking you are aboth Forth?
The nice thing about political intervention, then, is that it affects everyone and not just you. This means your employer couldn't just ditch you in favour of the lout who kept driving his suv, because the lout would be on the same subway train as you.
Which, indcidentally, owing to more people using it, would be a lot less expensive and more regular than what PT you have today.
James Hansen (among others) want carbon taxes to be revenue neutral: a steep tax, and a kickback based on your fair share of the commons CO2 is polluting. If you burn less carbon than average, you make money of the tax.
But let's say worst comes to worst. Let's say everything becomes more expensive. GDP is halved! Horrors! That would put our living standard back to 1993 or so! I was a teen in 1993, and I can tell you it was dreadful!
(Yeah, I know that's a bit crude analogy. But point is: The world is, in the relevant ways, stinking rich. We can afford to pay our evironmental bills, even if they will hurt.)
You reveal your ignorance. Such taxes have nothing to do with CO2 (the carbon cost of a plastic bag is utterly insignificant), but with plastic pollution.
Ha! That is not what the CFC producing industries and their henchmen said at the time. They painted the devil on the wall, just as the carbon fuel producing industries do today.
The henchmen, by the way, are largely the same. Heard of S. Fred Singer? Sallie Baliunas? Both ozone/CFC denialists before they became global warming/CO2 denialists. How did the business press meet the claims that CFC gases might cause a disaster? Exactly as they met (and meet) the global warming problem: with "chicken little" ridicule, and op eds drawing on right-wing think tanks for arguments that we don't really know anything, and in any case doing something about it would be an economic disaster.
Who are the real alarmists here? Those predicting doom if we don't adress a huge problem well-documented with physics, or those who predict doom if we do based on documentation from think-tank vapors?
Do you know how old Lovelock is? He's 93. He sometimes spoke without thinking even in his best years. What you're seeing here is the media jumping at the possibility of keeping the "controversy" alive.
In reality, Lovelock's previous book (where he pictured mankind being decimated and only the poles being inhabitable) was viewed as an over the top doomsday scenario by climate scientists. (Lovelock was never a climate scientist, and he has absolutely no right to apologize on anyone else's behalf.)
You, jmorris42, are full of shit. If you have an "anti-civilization bias", politics is the last place you will want to be. No one wants to "dismantle civilization", that is such a huge, flaming straw man you'd think you were at the Burning Man festival or something.
Your words reveal only that rejection of AGW is a political tribal marker for you, and you can't be reasoned with. Anyone who does not support your program wants to dismantle civilization/hates america. But for the benefit of less brainwashed people: Over the last 40 years ...
1. Nights are warming faster than days. This is evidence that more heat is being trapped. If more heat was being input (e.g, "it's the sun"), you'd expect the opposite.
2. Winters are warming faster than summers. This is evidence that more heat is being trapped. If more heat was being input, you'd expect the opposite.
3. Oxygen levels in the atmosphere are decreasing. Not by very much, obviously, but by as much as you would expect from the burning of fossil fuels. This is evidence CO2 increase is primarily caused directly by humans (not, say, volcanoes, or the oceans).
4. The isotope composition of CO2 in the air has changed. It reveals that the increase comes from burning of fossil fuels - carbon that has been stored for milennia as coal, oil and gas have a different composition than CO2 from, say, volcanoes or the ocean.
5. Less heat is radiated to space. This has been measured directly by satelites. This is evidence that more heat is being trapped, and it's the opposite of what you'd expect from e.g. increased solar input.
6. More heat is radiated from the atmosphere to the ground. If the indirect evidence of that in 1. and 2. is not good enough for you, you'll be glad to know this can be (and has been) directly measured.
7. If you remember high school physics, you know that the absorption specrtra of infrared radiation observed at these two places (the surface, satelites) can tell us a lot about which gases are absorbing and reemitting radiation (and, with historical data, the change) Guess which gases are responsible for the increased insulation? That's right, the anthropogenic greenhouse gases.
The is no room to say humans aren't causing the CO2 increase. There's no room to say the warming doesn't come from increased greenhouse effect. There is absolutely no room to say the planet isn't warming at all, like you do jmorris42, but I suppose if you approach this as a bargaining situation, you want to start with as outrageous a suggestion as possible.
But never mind! James Lovelock (93) has confessed! I have a confession to make too, in the same vein: In a few minutes a few years ago, I may have entertained the notion that global warming might not be happening. But now I realize that I, and people like jmorris42, were wrong, and I'd like to apologize on behalf of me, and jmorris42. We were wrong.
You're not alone. But what I can't understand, is why otherwise smart people like David Braben don't understand the economics of Gamestop:
The knowledge that they can sell (or trade in) the game at Gamestop when they're done with it, makes some customers buy games at full price who otherwise wouldn't. Gamestop effectively allows publishers to price discriminate, which is a very profitable thing to when you sell a product with near zero marginal cost of reproduction. True, Gamestop takes itself a big slice of that pie, but publishers could get into that business if they wanted to, or they could undercut it by reducing prices on used and less popular games.
Gamestop also reveals so many of the other lies of game publishers. There's very little piracy on the Nintendo DS, so DS games should be cheaper than Windows games, right? After all, piracy makes games more expensive! But you can go see for yourself that DS games, even used, sell for as high or higher than PC titles.
Well, fuck you and what you want, freak.
When "accidents" like this can happen, that says very nice things about GEGL's architecture (and the accidental heroes, of course).
black_visions explicity stated that it was not the trolls driving him to it, and he had been suicidal for a long time. On reddit he was trying to revive or find a similar place to the usenet group alt.suicide.holiday ("ash"), a hangout for suicidal people who don't want to be talked out of it.
From looking at his old posts on alt.suicide.holiday (which he wrote a lot about on reddit), I'm confident dark_visions has/had no 20-year old daughter, nor any ex-wife.
This "sister" is a troll.
Truth is more likely that you are a white male, posting moany comments about the supposed motivations of people who disagree with you.
Hopefully (and let's not be overly pessimistic: realistically) automatic systems like these will only be used to target chats for further investigation.
If worst comes to worst, they haven't replaced the legal system with a text analysis system yet.
They could, but they don't. They usually demand a printout of last month's paycheck.
I tried to find more info about this, but couldn't find it. Can you please give a link?
> your property
Norway taxes that too, on the municipal level.
> your spending
Norway taxes this too: a sales tax (VAT) on the national level, at 25%. No, there is no decimal point missing there.
> your savings
Yup.
Silly Americans complaining about taxes, you haven't seen nothing!
(But actually, I don't think the overall taxation level in Norway is too high, though some of it is pretty regressive, e.g. the VAT)
Altinn has had problems handling the load on these dates (when people do their taxes) for years.
My guess it's that a caching solution has been hurriedly pushed onto a system poorly set up for it, and accidentally set up to cache login credentials. When the credentials storage method is the right(wrong) type, a single-character typo in Varnish can be enough to do that, causing disaster.