Very well put. And behind this study is similar reasoning to what you provide; mixed-use communities provide more opportunities to walk someplace.
On a personal note, I gained a lot of weight after moving to the burbs. Living in NYC and walking up 3 flights of stairs kept me more active. Even in an elevator building, I did a lot of walking around with groceries.
Unfortunately in America, "sprawl" is a term that has been continuously co-opted, in many parts of America, to mean "let's have large lot sizes to retain our rural character" which of course *creates* sprawl. Other parts of the country, e.g. California, which have huge amounts of building purely residential developments on empty hills, have other problems. Namely, gated-community-type shit, which dictate all houses have to look alike and no commercial development. This demands that you drive a few miles to a strip mall just to buy milk.
Americans need to rethink development in a very serious way.
When Gonzales was born, interracial marriage was illegal in many areas.
A zealous defender of liberty, working by the "rules" Gonzales advocates, would waterboard that slimy bastard lickety-split.
These statements about habeus corpus constitute a manifest betrayal of his sworn oath to defend the Constitution. If one can claim that you are not guaranteed the right to habeus corpus - merely free from any law abrogating it - then the very mention of it has zero practical effect whatsoever. So either Gonzales has to claim that the Founding Fathers were the stupidest fucking lawyers on the planet - and yet we should honor their intent - or else he is a declared enemy of the Constitution.
I think it's safe to say we've never had an AG (even Ashcroft evinced *some* scruples, in the end) who has such contempt for the very concept of America, Freedom, and the Rule of Law. I hope he's thrown in jail after a long, long, long, painful trial for something. And from his public testimony - from his evasive "that depends on the meaning of 'is'" parsing - he is clearly consciously guilty of breaking many, many laws.
Some people just can't assimilate American values, it seems.
These election workers should do serious prison time. You don't get to fuck with elections because you find it convenient to keep the initial, flawed result.
As for the trogolodyte motherfuckers who say "how many times do you want to count the ballots in this box", the answer, as anyone who has ever handled real quantities of cash knows, is: UNTIL YOU GET THE SAME FUCKING ANSWER TWICE.
Sheesh. They act like counting is some mysterious, subjective process.
Actually you are wrong. Of course there are hundreds of regular conservative bloggers who aren't part of the money train, but the fact is that many prominent conservative blogs are funded from some part of the Republican money machine - not the RNC, of course, but via wealthy donors.
Remember Jeff Gannon aka James Guckert?
I've never heard of a single liberal blog that gets funded this way. Most liberal bloggers are pretty frank about how they pay their bills as well. Very, very few afford their creators enough dough to make a living off their blogs, but many manage to at least pay their server bills and maybe provide pocket change.
I know some people will cite Soros and MoveOn - but MoveOn is not a blog, it's a PAC. There are a lot more super-wealthy conservatives who have funded conservative causes for decades, e.g. the Coors. There are more of them than you can imagine. Wealthy liberals are more likely to fund new hospital wings or cancer research or schools in India or something.
There's a difference between being paid and making an income. Should Ye Olde Smokey Roome Thinke Tank pay Joe Pajamas to shill for them, it can and should be restricted as their profession is shilling for political causes.
If, however, someone is getting paid via donations from the public and/or ad revenue, then they are, in effect, not "getting paid" to put forth given opinions, and it cannot and should not be, and almost certainly will not be regulated. Particularly when many of even the most popular political blogs are just making enough to pay the bills - it's like printing something on a broadsheet and standing on the street corner and asking a nickel to cover printing costs - absolute classic first Amendment.
So all this fake worldly cynicism from the./ers (Dems same as Republicans, blah bla) on this thread is just posturing bullshit.
FUD.
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This alone is prime evidence that, if not stolen, the elections were at least botched by faulty voting machines.
Similar comparisons abound in FL-13, 2006 - the undervote on manual count ballots was something like 2.5%, while on electronic voting machines, used only in the "loser"'s strongholds, the undervote was over 17%.
Something stinks. And the conservative types who want to cry sour grapes are either fools or enemies of democracy; if you can steal an election without detection, sooner or later, it will happen. The conservatives seem suspiciously certain it won't be stolen *from* them - so either they are fools, or they expect that Republicans, if anyone, will succeed in stealing elections via electronic voting machines.
Bullshit. Women are making major inroads into many professions where the atmosphere was/is far more hostile. Law and finance, for example. If you are a female who really wants to make it on Wall Street or serious NYC-based finance, you had goddamn well better be OK with going to strip clubs to socialize with your peers after work.
The difference in my experience is that women tend to be more "credential" oriented than men. That's why more women are going to college and getting advanced degrees than men these days. It's also why in heavily administrative, bureaucratic areas, women hold their own with men and are even taking over...
But real IT - administration, design, and programming - frequently means working without directly relevant credentials or road map, and without any peer support when it comes to learning. For whatever reason, men are more willing to do this.
Frankly, if it weren't for biology - men can't bear children - women would be earning more than men by now, except at the very highest levels.
Biden has lost my vote - I don't want a different version of kowtowing to corporations, I want political representatives who represent their constituents, not one or another stripe of corporate slavemasters.
Yeah, I called up the datacenter dudes and asked for an upgrade from 5.3 to 6.0. From there, remote upgrades have been smooth.
I know 4.11 was probably the most stable operating system I've ever used, but I'd recommend a wipe and reinstall (and if you have your non-OS stuff in its own partition, of course, it's always easier).
Of course, it's not necessarily dangerous to stretch out your 4.11 installations for another year or two, if you'll commit to keeping your ported software upgraded, even if via hand installs. I haven't seen a FreeBSD base system remote exploit of any real active significance since some damn telnet thing from years and years ago.
And while sophisticated graphics and all are certainly part of the equation, lots of folks (the early adopter types) will put up with problems in that area. People won't put up with problems in the experience. From what I hear and see, the client has usability issues and the server grid has some design issues.
Linden's problem may be that there's no easy development path from where they are now to where they need to go. Starting from zero may have a decisive advantage.
Your fears are both unfounded and under-respected.
If the Linden folks aren't doing server-side logic for exchange and storage of Linden bucks, they are screwed whether or not the client is open source.
Ever heard of aim-bots? Those work with closed-source clients.
On the other hand, it looks like the Linden folks are still working on server controls to make sure stuff doesn't run out of control. Flying penis storms, grey goo, that sort of thing.
And from the sound of it, their server software seems to have individual servers representing specific geography. Never mind the redundancy issues - that's a major scalability issue.
Hey, it's the first beast specifically of this type. There are a lot of hard lessons you learn by being first.
Bah. Types are a boring straightjacket. And they don't do much for preventing SQL injection - as long as one of the types is text, and PHP programmers are still putting together their queries
Parameterized queries is a powerful way of doing it - it doesn't prevent all nonsense, but it sure as hell puts a stop to your garden variety SQL injection. Guess what? PHP doesn't, last I checked, have parameterized queries.
Unfortunately, most PHP programmers I've encountered simply don't even understand why SQL injection is a problem. I once had a contractor offer, to my boss, on our dime, to research whether this "SQL injection" security thing is some kind of problem. He should have been fired on the spot.
On the other hand: explain Gallagher and Carrot Top. "Apparently" they are funny, because they have "careers". Yet everyone with an actual sense of humor knows they are just waiting to unhinge their jaws and swallow you whole.
Now for the MySQL fanboi's, I do have to ask: why not use SQLite for the same purpose? Either you need a dumb data store or you need a Real Database. If you need a dumb data store, why not go for the one that does the best job of being a minimal data store - and use SQLite? If you need Real Database features (and I do), MySQL just hasn't caught up to PostgreSQL, and is even losing ground, after all this time.
The hole in what I'm saying, of course, is replication. PostgreSQL 8.2 looks like it's making progress in this respect. I haven't played around with warm stand-by's, but I'm sure someday I'll need it. When I do, log shipping looks like it will do nicely!
Non-lethal weaponry is great when you think about it saving lives - but the law of unintended consequences is making me think twice about the way society will inevitably use them. And that's to cause pain because someone in authority just feels like it and thinks they can get away with it.
Give cops these things, and they'll use them like Homer Simpson opening a beer bottle with his pistol.
The good news: fewer people die or suffer permanent injuries. The Bad News: it's easier to torture people without consequences.
If you hurt people really bad, torture them, make them suffer severe pain, you should be forced to suffer guilt and judicial consequences; this is the best defense against this type of abuse of power. But if the victims can't point to scars or blood, the perpetrators (cops, campus cops, rent-a-cops, bodyguards, whoever) are more likely to go free.
Interesting choice. Because The Daily Show is a huge, huge piece of media getting extra play online. And the Comedy Central legal goons have screwed the pooch by getting nasty.
If they were smart, they'd fucking offer a clip service, with explicit authority to rebroadcast on youtube, your website, whatever. And their only terms would be you had to leave that 15 second ad at the beginning of a 3 minute piece. 15 seconds is short enough not to piss people off.
Alas, I've worked inside big media companies and that's never going to happen. They will all go to the future kicking, screaming, and dying of self-inflicted wounds.
Comedy Central is fucking this one up big time. I'd like to think YouTube is made of smarter stuff - and could even make these kind of deals happen - but check out the recent wired magazine, and the author profile of they guy who wrote an article about YouTube and what total dickheads they were, saying, roughly, "they wanted to know what my article was about before I did" and "they were the pushiest organization I've ever dealt with".
Fuck YouTube. Let the backlash begin. And until Adobe stops dragging their feet on Linux (and even BSD) support, fuck Flash, too. Let's face it, the browser plugin situation is a disaster - offer direct links, mms:// links, etc, and accept downloading, or else just fucking quit and go home. The future doesn't need you.
In all honesty, this dude might be a professional paranoiac with an easily google-able catchphrase, but you are a fool, a knave, a liar, and an enemy of liberty everywhere.\
Anyone who knows jack or shit about law enforcement knows that they can, do, and will use every law and tactic available to prosecute whoever they think are the "bad guys".
And that's not a slag on law enforcement - that's called "doing their jobs". Obviously, they can get overzealous. And do. And will.
The point is that you give people power, and they will abuse it to the degree they are permitted. That's why Arlo Guthrie got busted for littering (when his real crime was being a dirty hippy), that's why Al Capone got nailed for tax evasion, that's why the Patriot act leads to waitresses on a plane thinking they can kick off breast-feeding mothers just because they feel like it, that's why we've got another 20 years of releasing the falsely convicted based on DNA evidence (too late for the wrongly executed), and it's why your flip attitude is functionally equivalent to saying "exterminate the jews? go ahead - if the authorities are against them, they must have done something!".
And so anything - a new law, a new technical system - that isn't done with an eye to how it could be abused, well, it's foolish and ignorant and entirely predictable, and predictably the people who mean to fuck over everyone ignore these things as plainly as can be.
You really need to study American history again if you don't get this shit by now. Our founding fathers understood this stuff, and that's why "checks and balances" are a part of our government (2000-2006 excepted). You know that scence in Pulp Fiction with the multi-way Mexican Standoff? That's how the US government is supposed to work; go too far, and you'll get blown away, because you can't take out all the other dudes.
There's no ethical baggage with most foetal stem cells either. Unless, of course, you subscribe to the crazy notion that life begins before preganancy...
Well it certainly appears to be an outlet for men's sexual urges and educational for women who have urges to see it. I can't remember a more miserable time than being a teenager who wants and needs to see naked women more than anything, and having less opportunity than at any time in my life. These darn kids today with their internet pr0n have it so easy!
As for the tiny percentage of weirdos for whom pr0n is part of their descent into subhuman behavior, well, it's more likely to be correlation rather than causality. There's a biological, evolutionary reason for a few men to be rapists.
If you don't believe me, look at the rates of sex crimes in places where men and women are separated as much as possible. Stifle sexuality, and it finds less savory outlets, from any perspective. That's a difficult paradox for sexuality we find morally unacceptible, but which have a strong biological basis (from adultery to date rape to homosexuality). Yeah, I know, you'll have to think about that for a long, long, long time.
Wake me up when these things are good and cheap enough for "hobbyists" to spy into bedroom, bathroom, and lockerroom windows not normally accessible to the "naked" eye. It's just a matter of time.
There's also hind-blindness - the ability of people to regard a negative outcome as something which could not have been predicted, despite the fact that they directly opposed and shouted down the voices who did, in fact, predict it.
Example: like, the stifling of innovation on the Internet due to "pay-to-play" schemes in which every ISP is it's own version of the Chinese government.
Another example: the collapse of Iraq into sectarian violence and increased Iranian influence.
Very well put. And behind this study is similar reasoning to what you provide; mixed-use communities provide more opportunities to walk someplace.
On a personal note, I gained a lot of weight after moving to the burbs. Living in NYC and walking up 3 flights of stairs kept me more active. Even in an elevator building, I did a lot of walking around with groceries.
Unfortunately in America, "sprawl" is a term that has been continuously co-opted, in many parts of America, to mean "let's have large lot sizes to retain our rural character" which of course *creates* sprawl. Other parts of the country, e.g. California, which have huge amounts of building purely residential developments on empty hills, have other problems. Namely, gated-community-type shit, which dictate all houses have to look alike and no commercial development. This demands that you drive a few miles to a strip mall just to buy milk.
Americans need to rethink development in a very serious way.
When Gonzales was born, interracial marriage was illegal in many areas.
A zealous defender of liberty, working by the "rules" Gonzales advocates, would waterboard that slimy bastard lickety-split.
These statements about habeus corpus constitute a manifest betrayal of his sworn oath to defend the Constitution. If one can claim that you are not guaranteed the right to habeus corpus - merely free from any law abrogating it - then the very mention of it has zero practical effect whatsoever. So either Gonzales has to claim that the Founding Fathers were the stupidest fucking lawyers on the planet - and yet we should honor their intent - or else he is a declared enemy of the Constitution.
I think it's safe to say we've never had an AG (even Ashcroft evinced *some* scruples, in the end) who has such contempt for the very concept of America, Freedom, and the Rule of Law. I hope he's thrown in jail after a long, long, long, painful trial for something. And from his public testimony - from his evasive "that depends on the meaning of 'is'" parsing - he is clearly consciously guilty of breaking many, many laws.
Some people just can't assimilate American values, it seems.
Now there's an interesting idea... If, of course, the telcoms don't manage to get it made illegal first..
Right on.
These election workers should do serious prison time. You don't get to fuck with elections because you find it convenient to keep the initial, flawed result.
As for the trogolodyte motherfuckers who say "how many times do you want to count the ballots in this box", the answer, as anyone who has ever handled real quantities of cash knows, is: UNTIL YOU GET THE SAME FUCKING ANSWER TWICE.
Sheesh. They act like counting is some mysterious, subjective process.
Actually you are wrong. Of course there are hundreds of regular conservative bloggers who aren't part of the money train, but the fact is that many prominent conservative blogs are funded from some part of the Republican money machine - not the RNC, of course, but via wealthy donors.
Remember Jeff Gannon aka James Guckert?
I've never heard of a single liberal blog that gets funded this way. Most liberal bloggers are pretty frank about how they pay their bills as well. Very, very few afford their creators enough dough to make a living off their blogs, but many manage to at least pay their server bills and maybe provide pocket change.
I know some people will cite Soros and MoveOn - but MoveOn is not a blog, it's a PAC. There are a lot more super-wealthy conservatives who have funded conservative causes for decades, e.g. the Coors. There are more of them than you can imagine. Wealthy liberals are more likely to fund new hospital wings or cancer research or schools in India or something.
There's a difference between being paid and making an income. Should Ye Olde Smokey Roome Thinke Tank pay Joe Pajamas to shill for them, it can and should be restricted as their profession is shilling for political causes.
./ers (Dems same as Republicans, blah bla) on this thread is just posturing bullshit.
If, however, someone is getting paid via donations from the public and/or ad revenue, then they are, in effect, not "getting paid" to put forth given opinions, and it cannot and should not be, and almost certainly will not be regulated. Particularly when many of even the most popular political blogs are just making enough to pay the bills - it's like printing something on a broadsheet and standing on the street corner and asking a nickel to cover printing costs - absolute classic first Amendment.
So all this fake worldly cynicism from the
FUD.
This alone is prime evidence that, if not stolen, the elections were at least botched by faulty voting machines.
Similar comparisons abound in FL-13, 2006 - the undervote on manual count ballots was something like 2.5%, while on electronic voting machines, used only in the "loser"'s strongholds, the undervote was over 17%.
Something stinks. And the conservative types who want to cry sour grapes are either fools or enemies of democracy; if you can steal an election without detection, sooner or later, it will happen. The conservatives seem suspiciously certain it won't be stolen *from* them - so either they are fools, or they expect that Republicans, if anyone, will succeed in stealing elections via electronic voting machines.
Bullshit. Women are making major inroads into many professions where the atmosphere was/is far more hostile. Law and finance, for example. If you are a female who really wants to make it on Wall Street or serious NYC-based finance, you had goddamn well better be OK with going to strip clubs to socialize with your peers after work.
The difference in my experience is that women tend to be more "credential" oriented than men. That's why more women are going to college and getting advanced degrees than men these days. It's also why in heavily administrative, bureaucratic areas, women hold their own with men and are even taking over...
But real IT - administration, design, and programming - frequently means working without directly relevant credentials or road map, and without any peer support when it comes to learning. For whatever reason, men are more willing to do this.
Frankly, if it weren't for biology - men can't bear children - women would be earning more than men by now, except at the very highest levels.
well put. i'd mod up if i could
Excellent point.
Biden has lost my vote - I don't want a different version of kowtowing to corporations, I want political representatives who represent their constituents, not one or another stripe of corporate slavemasters.
Yeah, I called up the datacenter dudes and asked for an upgrade from 5.3 to 6.0. From there, remote upgrades have been smooth.
I know 4.11 was probably the most stable operating system I've ever used, but I'd recommend a wipe and reinstall (and if you have your non-OS stuff in its own partition, of course, it's always easier).
Of course, it's not necessarily dangerous to stretch out your 4.11 installations for another year or two, if you'll commit to keeping your ported software upgraded, even if via hand installs. I haven't seen a FreeBSD base system remote exploit of any real active significance since some damn telnet thing from years and years ago.
Agreed.
And while sophisticated graphics and all are certainly part of the equation, lots of folks (the early adopter types) will put up with problems in that area. People won't put up with problems in the experience. From what I hear and see, the client has usability issues and the server grid has some design issues.
Linden's problem may be that there's no easy development path from where they are now to where they need to go. Starting from zero may have a decisive advantage.
Your fears are both unfounded and under-respected.
If the Linden folks aren't doing server-side logic for exchange and storage of Linden bucks, they are screwed whether or not the client is open source.
Ever heard of aim-bots? Those work with closed-source clients.
On the other hand, it looks like the Linden folks are still working on server controls to make sure stuff doesn't run out of control. Flying penis storms, grey goo, that sort of thing.
And from the sound of it, their server software seems to have individual servers representing specific geography. Never mind the redundancy issues - that's a major scalability issue.
Hey, it's the first beast specifically of this type. There are a lot of hard lessons you learn by being first.
Bah. Types are a boring straightjacket. And they don't do much for preventing SQL injection - as long as one of the types is text, and PHP programmers are still putting together their queries
Parameterized queries is a powerful way of doing it - it doesn't prevent all nonsense, but it sure as hell puts a stop to your garden variety SQL injection. Guess what? PHP doesn't, last I checked, have parameterized queries.
Unfortunately, most PHP programmers I've encountered simply don't even understand why SQL injection is a problem. I once had a contractor offer, to my boss, on our dime, to research whether this "SQL injection" security thing is some kind of problem. He should have been fired on the spot.
Ali G suggested this to Ralph Nader. Who, to his credit, responded "The problem is, no one has figured out how to attach a box to a cow's asshole"
On the other hand: explain Gallagher and Carrot Top. "Apparently" they are funny, because they have "careers". Yet everyone with an actual sense of humor knows they are just waiting to unhinge their jaws and swallow you whole.
Should be modded up.
Now for the MySQL fanboi's, I do have to ask: why not use SQLite for the same purpose? Either you need a dumb data store or you need a Real Database. If you need a dumb data store, why not go for the one that does the best job of being a minimal data store - and use SQLite? If you need Real Database features (and I do), MySQL just hasn't caught up to PostgreSQL, and is even losing ground, after all this time.
The hole in what I'm saying, of course, is replication. PostgreSQL 8.2 looks like it's making progress in this respect. I haven't played around with warm stand-by's, but I'm sure someday I'll need it. When I do, log shipping looks like it will do nicely!
Yes, surely soon to be abused.
Non-lethal weaponry is great when you think about it saving lives - but the law of unintended consequences is making me think twice about the way society will inevitably use them. And that's to cause pain because someone in authority just feels like it and thinks they can get away with it.
Give cops these things, and they'll use them like Homer Simpson opening a beer bottle with his pistol.
The good news: fewer people die or suffer permanent injuries. The Bad News: it's easier to torture people without consequences.
If you hurt people really bad, torture them, make them suffer severe pain, you should be forced to suffer guilt and judicial consequences; this is the best defense against this type of abuse of power. But if the victims can't point to scars or blood, the perpetrators (cops, campus cops, rent-a-cops, bodyguards, whoever) are more likely to go free.
Interesting choice. Because The Daily Show is a huge, huge piece of media getting extra play online. And the Comedy Central legal goons have screwed the pooch by getting nasty.
If they were smart, they'd fucking offer a clip service, with explicit authority to rebroadcast on youtube, your website, whatever. And their only terms would be you had to leave that 15 second ad at the beginning of a 3 minute piece. 15 seconds is short enough not to piss people off.
Alas, I've worked inside big media companies and that's never going to happen. They will all go to the future kicking, screaming, and dying of self-inflicted wounds.
Comedy Central is fucking this one up big time. I'd like to think YouTube is made of smarter stuff - and could even make these kind of deals happen - but check out the recent wired magazine, and the author profile of they guy who wrote an article about YouTube and what total dickheads they were, saying, roughly, "they wanted to know what my article was about before I did" and "they were the pushiest organization I've ever dealt with".
Fuck YouTube. Let the backlash begin. And until Adobe stops dragging their feet on Linux (and even BSD) support, fuck Flash, too. Let's face it, the browser plugin situation is a disaster - offer direct links, mms:// links, etc, and accept downloading, or else just fucking quit and go home. The future doesn't need you.
But other than that - good post!
In all honesty, this dude might be a professional paranoiac with an easily google-able catchphrase, but you are a fool, a knave, a liar, and an enemy of liberty everywhere.\
Anyone who knows jack or shit about law enforcement knows that they can, do, and will use every law and tactic available to prosecute whoever they think are the "bad guys".
And that's not a slag on law enforcement - that's called "doing their jobs". Obviously, they can get overzealous. And do. And will.
The point is that you give people power, and they will abuse it to the degree they are permitted . That's why Arlo Guthrie got busted for littering (when his real crime was being a dirty hippy), that's why Al Capone got nailed for tax evasion, that's why the Patriot act leads to waitresses on a plane thinking they can kick off breast-feeding mothers just because they feel like it, that's why we've got another 20 years of releasing the falsely convicted based on DNA evidence (too late for the wrongly executed), and it's why your flip attitude is functionally equivalent to saying "exterminate the jews? go ahead - if the authorities are against them, they must have done something!".
And so anything - a new law, a new technical system - that isn't done with an eye to how it could be abused, well, it's foolish and ignorant and entirely predictable, and predictably the people who mean to fuck over everyone ignore these things as plainly as can be.
You really need to study American history again if you don't get this shit by now. Our founding fathers understood this stuff, and that's why "checks and balances" are a part of our government (2000-2006 excepted). You know that scence in Pulp Fiction with the multi-way Mexican Standoff? That's how the US government is supposed to work; go too far, and you'll get blown away, because you can't take out all the other dudes.
There's no ethical baggage with most foetal stem cells either. Unless, of course, you subscribe to the crazy notion that life begins before preganancy...
Well it certainly appears to be an outlet for men's sexual urges and educational for women who have urges to see it. I can't remember a more miserable time than being a teenager who wants and needs to see naked women more than anything, and having less opportunity than at any time in my life. These darn kids today with their internet pr0n have it so easy!
As for the tiny percentage of weirdos for whom pr0n is part of their descent into subhuman behavior, well, it's more likely to be correlation rather than causality. There's a biological, evolutionary reason for a few men to be rapists.
If you don't believe me, look at the rates of sex crimes in places where men and women are separated as much as possible. Stifle sexuality, and it finds less savory outlets, from any perspective. That's a difficult paradox for sexuality we find morally unacceptible, but which have a strong biological basis (from adultery to date rape to homosexuality). Yeah, I know, you'll have to think about that for a long, long, long time.
Wake me up when these things are good and cheap enough for "hobbyists" to spy into bedroom, bathroom, and lockerroom windows not normally accessible to the "naked" eye. It's just a matter of time.
There's also hind-blindness - the ability of people to regard a negative outcome as something which could not have been predicted, despite the fact that they directly opposed and shouted down the voices who did, in fact, predict it.
Example: like, the stifling of innovation on the Internet due to "pay-to-play" schemes in which every ISP is it's own version of the Chinese government.
Another example: the collapse of Iraq into sectarian violence and increased Iranian influence.
Air America is run by fat junkies? Air America has been divorced multiple times?
That's a good one.