It would definitely bring e-mail communications out of reach for thousands - millions - of legitimate organizations. But spammers spam because their communications are profitable.
So the only thing this would do is raise overhead costs for organizations with non-money-making email.
True. I've got nothing against gaim - I quite liked it when I use it. But since I'm primarily KDE desktop, Kopete works quite nicely.
If one of them offered features the other didn't, I could easily change my mind.
I've been using IRC since forever, I was a five-digit ICQ user (and still a 5-digit./er). My issue with chat is that it's not a social hook-up for me - it's a communication pipeline like having a cell phone.
And so, Gaim and Kopete are both great. I use AIM, because I must, I use jabber, I use my GMail account over jabber. I've had other IM accounts that worked fine, too. Granted, I'm a FreeBSD user so voice chat is a hassle I haven't hurdled, but for plain old IM, both clients work well enough that I'd be happy with either one... It's not like I even give a shit about avatars or whatev.
Bottom line: if you want fancy shit, you had better use the same software as your mates. If you want a direct text comm tool, life is good.
Yeah I never got down with the whole Monopoly=Capitalism thing. Frankly they don't work well together.
And those who own the pipes, under the US non-regulatory scheme, have quasi-monopolies.
Most of us in the US have, at best, two choices for broadband. We only have one choice for cable, largely, owing to munincipal monopolies. That effectively allows a "fuck the customer" ethos, which, my friends, ain't capitalism.
Bottom line, McCain, whatever he once was, is a whore. He'll say any stupid shit if he thinks it flatters the delusions of the Republican base. And that's why he should be mocked and laughed at.
Monopoly rape of the public by megacorporations is not a sound policy. Period. If you say otherwise, you are as far from supporting capitalism as the Shining Path, and as far as I'm concerned you can fuck off and die.
Quite true. This was possibly the worst Op-Ed I've read in the NYT in memory. It made no actual arguments relating to the subject matter at hand, it employed fallacial arguments every other word.
Frankly the author is in serious need of a cock-punch.
The author claimed that agrarian-era laws are inadequate for the "information age". And his response is to take us back to feudalism.
Fuck him, I hope he dies poor, because he's advocating a return to the Dark Ages.
The thing is, despite HUNDREDS of requests - amounting, as we now know, to an illegal campaign to deny people the right to vote - to USAs to investigate voter fraud - this same voter fraud you claim happens all the time, because Rush Limbaugh (a pill-popping patron of underaged prostitutes) said so... and what are the results?
NOT ONE illegitimate vote found.
"Yeah everybody does it" sounds great, but the facts say otherwise.
FUCK Rove, fuck Griffin, these guys should be in jail. There is no higher crime and misdemeanor than stealing elections. Off to Gitmo with the bastards.
Aah. Well that makes sense. Because I saw something about pandering to the Chinese community in the article description and I thought, "That's weird, hardly any of the Chinese people I know even own a hammer". And then I started wondering if there was some secret stereotype against Chinese people involving hammers. And then I thought, no, silly, that's German people, who are very short and have beards and spend all their time in mines looking for precious metals.
But you know, a climate of fear, where everyone looks guilty, or anyone could be accused at any time... That's what we've got. And you know what? Godwin's fucking dead, so I'm pulling the f-word out. The climate of fear in America right now is pre-fascist.
I think you are 100 percent correct. "Well isn't any amount too much?" No, really 100 watchits is really pretty safe. "But wouldn't it be safer if we required 10 or less?" Well, theoretically, but statistically "10 it is!".
They recently doubled the amount of radon detected indoors is deemed to be safe. Unless you're getting a safety inspection for a house sale, you won't hear much about this, however.
Of course they were released after Reagan took office - and the Iranians thought this justified their tactics. It's because they made a secret deal with Reagan and GHWB to trade arms for hostages and delay their release until after the election.
Reagan engaged in banana republic skullduggery and sold our honor and integrity down the river, and richly rewarded terrorism at the same time.
Made you feel personally humiliated? You're like one of those sissy Arabs always talking about being humiliated. You can't humiliate me so easily.
Nobody believes the cameras prevent all crime. Most murders, including shootings, occur in areas where there are no cameras, so wouldn't be affected.
Then all we need is cameras absolutely everywhere and we'll stop all crime.
According to this study [homeoffice.gov.uk], there is usually a reduction in reported crime, although their sample size was too small for it to be statistically significant.
The technical phrase for this is "their data does not support their conclusion" - a more honest conclusion would be that they have no proof that wholesale invasion of privacy reduces crime.
Any theory that sufficiently explains consciousness through purely physical processes does not require consciousness itself - just the proper empirical outputs - and therefore explains nothing about consciousness. You've just explained a more complicated machine, and depending on your temperament, either placed a ghost back inside it, or denied the existence of consciousness altogether.
That being said, yes, it would actually be shocking if some of the more mysterious aspects of the brain, such as memory, were not in fact based deeply in quantum principles.
I don't know if this particular technology is related, but there was a "new improved" solar panel material talked about a couple years ago. It used some kind of laser etching to make nano-forests of carbon pine trees. The shape and the density turned out to be really good at trapping light, allowing them to make "blacker" solar panels that captured more light. Who knows, maybe it turned out not to be durable in tests, giving it too short a lifespan to justify the cost. Maybe it just turned out to be bad data.
As usual, there are lots of promising technologies that never turn out to be practical. Some of them turn out to be useful enough to use in certain situations, but nothing that would change the world.
There is overwhelming circumstantial evidence that the firings were not only political, but were designed to eliminate USAs who were insufficiently diligent in perverting justice for the aims of the GOP.
The first piece of evidence is that they lied about the reason for the firings - the claims of substandard performance don't even pass the laugh test. Most of the fired USAs were commended for their excellent performance.
The second piece of evidence is that we have e-mails showing them making up reasons for the firing *after* the fact. The "insufficient immigration prosecutions" thing, for example, was chosen just because three of the states happened to be border states. This is documented.
The third piece of evidence is in fact the 100% total and utter absence of any documentation of any performance problems. No phone calls, no memos, nothing in anyone's personal notebook, no e-mails, nothing indicating that anyone ever spoke to the fired USAs about the alleged performance issues. Anyone who has ever dealt with firing someone should find this astounding.
Considering how far we are into this thing, that's an amazing amount of evidence.
But ultimately it's already very obvious that the entire Justice Department was being perverted to work, not for Americans, but for GOP election prospects. Many obviously bogus investigations involving either Democratic candidates or voter fraud allegations were pursued just in time for elections - and as often as not, silently and mysteriously dropped right afterwards. And it doesn't get more political than that.
The current administration operates like a criminal gang the likes of which we've never seen in America. All patriots need to work together to drive a stake through the heart of these vicious, un-American, authoritarian criminals.
And not having flash, I find that the really annoying ads never plague me, so I don't even really need AdBlock. I can live with, ignore, or occasionally look at the regular ads.
I'm surprised that it took so long for Rumsfeld's name to crop up.
Still, both as a fear of scientists and an artful dodge of politicians, The Unknowable is unlikely to leave us stranded at some cosmic stalemate. It just doesn't seem to be a feature of our universe.
And dark matter would be a strange place for it to happen. I'd be less surprised, in fact, if it turned out that ghosts were really some dark matter beings who could occasionally stumble into clouds of weirdness that permit them to interact with electromagnetism for brief periods.
How is an operating system maintained by thousands of different developers and hundreds of separate projects each with differing aims, compensation, and use of the various products anything like a commune?
A: They aren't. But if you want to grant the author of the article the benefit of a loose definition, then you have to accept that there are many different organizations which both fit the definition of "commune" better and which are quite successful and long-lived.
On the other hand, I wish to grant the author no such leniency. It's trolling, plain and simple.
And if you read down to the final point, "is linux open", you'll see he has quite an axe to grind that has little or nothing to do with the points he is making (which themselves have at best a weak rhetorical connection to linux). He does the classic thing that conservatives of all stripes always do. They point out that their opinions are unpopular with the wider community, and that people express this fact (i.e. "shut up you idiot") and then use this as supposed proof that the community is not as "open" as it pretends.
I know that's hard to take for those of you who prefer blind belief to rational thought. I have both faith and facts to inform me; and they never contradict each other because one is my left eye and the other my right eye.
Yeah, there are a few atheists and such whose beliefs are so extreme as to constitute an anti-religion. But they aren't anywhere as numerous as those whose blind belief contradicts the plain implications of the facts. They are just not equivalent (even though I find the most hard-core atheism to be equivalent to blind religious belief). So on the dogma-versus-reality scale, the atheists do not lose, even though I disagree with them on many things...
So no one needs or even wants man-made global warming to fit their belief system. Quite the opposite - those who accept the predominating scientific evidence accept, as their belief system, science and evidence. And they accept that new information can change these beliefs. While those who deny the current science on climate and man's influence on it adhere viciously to a system of belief that denies evidence, that denies the existence of facts, that denies anything that doesn't fit into their preconceived notions. Why ya gotta be so stupid, stupid?
You need to consider the relationships between "belief" and "science" and "evidence" and "facts" a bit more carefully before you open your mouth.
Correct. And to the extent it's not about who we can strong-arm - I don't think we should be bragging that corrupt economies envy our patent system for its ability to restrain competition and provide opportunities to extort deep pockets.
This guy is a dipshit. IP law has run amok, to the point that even the leaders of industry know it (major media companies excepted). To name just one example of hundreds, the vast majority of the pre-1936 movies are such well-protected intellectual property that absolutely no one will ever see them again, while the last copies rot in studio vaults. IP law is supposed to be a quid pro quo - companies get an unnatural right, an artificial monopoly, and in return they *give* their fruits of their labors back to the common good after a time. The second half of that bargain has not been lived up to in the US. Software patents amount to getting something for nothing; the endless extension of copyright is an explicit poke in the public's eye (Eldred was a shameful decision that says "forever minus a day" is not infinite).
Seeing as how DSL just became available in my neighborhood just this year (though Verizon has been tempting me with offers in the mail for the last 5 years), I kinda doubt this.
Verizon is also supposed to offer unbundled ("naked") DSL - that is, without a requirement to have Verizon phone service. When I say they are supposed to, I mean they are required to by law. They've been dragging their feet on this for years now and the FCC does nothing.
Which is what it comes down to. Since 1996, the FCC has ceased to become a regulatory entity (except when it comes to selective obscenity persecutions), and has become instead an industry protection racket. Other countries have stronger regulations. In the US the market fails, but as long as corporate profits are high, we're told it's a success.
I'd guess this has at least something to do with the weak offerings in the U.S.
So even if fiber connections do show up at US homes, it will still be inferior, artificially crippled, and overpriced.
For real - that site renders HORRIBLY. What it looks like is a badly designed CSS-heavy site with the CSS for firefox 100% broken or missing.
Oddly it renders just fine in Konqueror. And Epiphany looks like Firefox. And Opera looks fine.
Haven't tried, you know, using it or anything, but for a major company like Wal-Mart to do this bad a job, in this day and age, with a mainstream web browser, is AWFUL. Particularly because you actually have to go to some lengths to make it look this bad - it doesn't happen casually. You have to have made a conscious decision to do multiple different things to make it this bad!
I walked into the Wal-Mart online video store, and they gave me the finger.
One can argue ad infinitum about what's a better overall approach - don't touch a damn thing, or stay relatively up to date. They both have problems - if
Don't even get me started about RedHat or Fedora or Asshat or whatever it is now. I need build customizations with some regularity, so binary releases are right out, and I occasionally need new software features. So the general Linux distro approach of having all your software tied to the same distro release number (excepting security updates, say) (and binary packages) just doesn't work for me at all. Why should I be stuck with Postgres 7.3 just because I installed the machine N years ago, or else decay into hand-compiles, or else wipe the thing clean? I've put in new disks and need tablespaces.
With FreeBSD, I find it easy to stay relatively up to date with ports, and easy to not touch a damn thing with the base OS. Kinda the best of both worlds. And this works pretty nicely both on servers *and* my laptop. Only patchy thing left is, say, updating sendmail for some security issue, and binary updates to the OS *are* becoming more standard.
I've always thought Gentoo looked interesting due to fixing the things that are ickly with FreeBSD's ports (I tried it once and a power failure hosed my data and I went back to FreeBSD). FreeBSD seems to manage OK with a "worse is better" benefit of ports (plus portupgrade and portaudit and portsnap!) versus emerge, which tries harder to be "correct" in many ways.
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Wrong.
It would definitely bring e-mail communications out of reach for thousands - millions - of legitimate organizations. But spammers spam because their communications are profitable.
So the only thing this would do is raise overhead costs for organizations with non-money-making email.
True. I've got nothing against gaim - I quite liked it when I use it. But since I'm primarily KDE desktop, Kopete works quite nicely.
./er). My issue with chat is that it's not a social hook-up for me - it's a communication pipeline like having a cell phone.
If one of them offered features the other didn't, I could easily change my mind.
I've been using IRC since forever, I was a five-digit ICQ user (and still a 5-digit
And so, Gaim and Kopete are both great. I use AIM, because I must, I use jabber, I use my GMail account over jabber. I've had other IM accounts that worked fine, too. Granted, I'm a FreeBSD user so voice chat is a hassle I haven't hurdled, but for plain old IM, both clients work well enough that I'd be happy with either one... It's not like I even give a shit about avatars or whatev.
Bottom line: if you want fancy shit, you had better use the same software as your mates. If you want a direct text comm tool, life is good.
Yeah I never got down with the whole Monopoly=Capitalism thing. Frankly they don't work well together.
And those who own the pipes, under the US non-regulatory scheme, have quasi-monopolies.
Most of us in the US have, at best, two choices for broadband. We only have one choice for cable, largely, owing to munincipal monopolies. That effectively allows a "fuck the customer" ethos, which, my friends, ain't capitalism.
Bottom line, McCain, whatever he once was, is a whore. He'll say any stupid shit if he thinks it flatters the delusions of the Republican base. And that's why he should be mocked and laughed at.
Monopoly rape of the public by megacorporations is not a sound policy. Period. If you say otherwise, you are as far from supporting capitalism as the Shining Path, and as far as I'm concerned you can fuck off and die.
Quite true. This was possibly the worst Op-Ed I've read in the NYT in memory. It made no actual arguments relating to the subject matter at hand, it employed fallacial arguments every other word.
Frankly the author is in serious need of a cock-punch.
The author claimed that agrarian-era laws are inadequate for the "information age". And his response is to take us back to feudalism.
Fuck him, I hope he dies poor, because he's advocating a return to the Dark Ages.
Yeah, the fact that a third party got these e-mails by accident.
Also note that the important emails, according to the article, seem not to be from Rove, but from Griffin.
Stop fucking lying you sack of shit.
Neither DKos, nor the large populace of that site, nor Democracy now think "Jews did the WTC."
Insane conspiracies are more a thing of the Republicans these days - you know "Saddam is in league with Al Qaeda" and that sort of thing.
RTFA.
The thing is, despite HUNDREDS of requests - amounting, as we now know, to an illegal campaign to deny people the right to vote - to USAs to investigate voter fraud - this same voter fraud you claim happens all the time, because Rush Limbaugh (a pill-popping patron of underaged prostitutes) said so... and what are the results?
NOT ONE illegitimate vote found.
"Yeah everybody does it" sounds great, but the facts say otherwise.
FUCK Rove, fuck Griffin, these guys should be in jail. There is no higher crime and misdemeanor than stealing elections. Off to Gitmo with the bastards.
NAT sux. it's kind of a hack and it complicates firewalling greatly.
IPv6 does not forbid firewalls. in fact they will work better without NAT.
Well done!
For the record I read the headline as "Congress Asks Universities to Curb Privacy". Same difference, really.
Aah. Well that makes sense. Because I saw something about pandering to the Chinese community in the article description and I thought, "That's weird, hardly any of the Chinese people I know even own a hammer". And then I started wondering if there was some secret stereotype against Chinese people involving hammers. And then I thought, no, silly, that's German people, who are very short and have beards and spend all their time in mines looking for precious metals.
But you know, a climate of fear, where everyone looks guilty, or anyone could be accused at any time... That's what we've got. And you know what? Godwin's fucking dead, so I'm pulling the f-word out. The climate of fear in America right now is pre-fascist.
Wake up before it's too late.
I think you are 100 percent correct. "Well isn't any amount too much?" No, really 100 watchits is really pretty safe. "But wouldn't it be safer if we required 10 or less?" Well, theoretically, but statistically "10 it is!".
They recently doubled the amount of radon detected indoors is deemed to be safe. Unless you're getting a safety inspection for a house sale, you won't hear much about this, however.
Of course they were released after Reagan took office - and the Iranians thought this justified their tactics. It's because they made a secret deal with Reagan and GHWB to trade arms for hostages and delay their release until after the election.
Reagan engaged in banana republic skullduggery and sold our honor and integrity down the river, and richly rewarded terrorism at the same time.
Made you feel personally humiliated? You're like one of those sissy Arabs always talking about being humiliated. You can't humiliate me so easily.
Any theory that sufficiently explains consciousness through purely physical processes does not require consciousness itself - just the proper empirical outputs - and therefore explains nothing about consciousness. You've just explained a more complicated machine, and depending on your temperament, either placed a ghost back inside it, or denied the existence of consciousness altogether.
That being said, yes, it would actually be shocking if some of the more mysterious aspects of the brain, such as memory, were not in fact based deeply in quantum principles.
I don't know if this particular technology is related, but there was a "new improved" solar panel material talked about a couple years ago. It used some kind of laser etching to make nano-forests of carbon pine trees. The shape and the density turned out to be really good at trapping light, allowing them to make "blacker" solar panels that captured more light. Who knows, maybe it turned out not to be durable in tests, giving it too short a lifespan to justify the cost. Maybe it just turned out to be bad data.
As usual, there are lots of promising technologies that never turn out to be practical. Some of them turn out to be useful enough to use in certain situations, but nothing that would change the world.
There is overwhelming circumstantial evidence that the firings were not only political, but were designed to eliminate USAs who were insufficiently diligent in perverting justice for the aims of the GOP.
The first piece of evidence is that they lied about the reason for the firings - the claims of substandard performance don't even pass the laugh test. Most of the fired USAs were commended for their excellent performance.
The second piece of evidence is that we have e-mails showing them making up reasons for the firing *after* the fact. The "insufficient immigration prosecutions" thing, for example, was chosen just because three of the states happened to be border states. This is documented.
The third piece of evidence is in fact the 100% total and utter absence of any documentation of any performance problems. No phone calls, no memos, nothing in anyone's personal notebook, no e-mails, nothing indicating that anyone ever spoke to the fired USAs about the alleged performance issues. Anyone who has ever dealt with firing someone should find this astounding.
Considering how far we are into this thing, that's an amazing amount of evidence.
But ultimately it's already very obvious that the entire Justice Department was being perverted to work, not for Americans, but for GOP election prospects. Many obviously bogus investigations involving either Democratic candidates or voter fraud allegations were pursued just in time for elections - and as often as not, silently and mysteriously dropped right afterwards. And it doesn't get more political than that.
The current administration operates like a criminal gang the likes of which we've never seen in America. All patriots need to work together to drive a stake through the heart of these vicious, un-American, authoritarian criminals.
Absolutely.
And not having flash, I find that the really annoying ads never plague me, so I don't even really need AdBlock. I can live with, ignore, or occasionally look at the regular ads.
I'm surprised that it took so long for Rumsfeld's name to crop up.
Still, both as a fear of scientists and an artful dodge of politicians, The Unknowable is unlikely to leave us stranded at some cosmic stalemate. It just doesn't seem to be a feature of our universe.
And dark matter would be a strange place for it to happen. I'd be less surprised, in fact, if it turned out that ghosts were really some dark matter beings who could occasionally stumble into clouds of weirdness that permit them to interact with electromagnetism for brief periods.
How is an operating system maintained by thousands of different developers and hundreds of separate projects each with differing aims, compensation, and use of the various products anything like a commune?
A: They aren't. But if you want to grant the author of the article the benefit of a loose definition, then you have to accept that there are many different organizations which both fit the definition of "commune" better and which are quite successful and long-lived.
On the other hand, I wish to grant the author no such leniency. It's trolling, plain and simple.
And if you read down to the final point, "is linux open", you'll see he has quite an axe to grind that has little or nothing to do with the points he is making (which themselves have at best a weak rhetorical connection to linux). He does the classic thing that conservatives of all stripes always do. They point out that their opinions are unpopular with the wider community, and that people express this fact (i.e. "shut up you idiot") and then use this as supposed proof that the community is not as "open" as it pretends.
Phhhhhtttt.
Really? They shouldn't be complaining.
Greg Brady did this kind of stuff 30 years ago - when he was in a high school photography class!
Science is not a religion.
I know that's hard to take for those of you who prefer blind belief to rational thought. I have both faith and facts to inform me; and they never contradict each other because one is my left eye and the other my right eye.
Yeah, there are a few atheists and such whose beliefs are so extreme as to constitute an anti-religion. But they aren't anywhere as numerous as those whose blind belief contradicts the plain implications of the facts. They are just not equivalent (even though I find the most hard-core atheism to be equivalent to blind religious belief). So on the dogma-versus-reality scale, the atheists do not lose, even though I disagree with them on many things...
So no one needs or even wants man-made global warming to fit their belief system. Quite the opposite - those who accept the predominating scientific evidence accept, as their belief system, science and evidence. And they accept that new information can change these beliefs. While those who deny the current science on climate and man's influence on it adhere viciously to a system of belief that denies evidence, that denies the existence of facts, that denies anything that doesn't fit into their preconceived notions. Why ya gotta be so stupid, stupid?
You need to consider the relationships between "belief" and "science" and "evidence" and "facts" a bit more carefully before you open your mouth.
Correct. And to the extent it's not about who we can strong-arm - I don't think we should be bragging that corrupt economies envy our patent system for its ability to restrain competition and provide opportunities to extort deep pockets.
It's broken. Fucking stupid broke. 1-click shopping. QED.
This guy is a dipshit. IP law has run amok, to the point that even the leaders of industry know it (major media companies excepted). To name just one example of hundreds, the vast majority of the pre-1936 movies are such well-protected intellectual property that absolutely no one will ever see them again, while the last copies rot in studio vaults. IP law is supposed to be a quid pro quo - companies get an unnatural right, an artificial monopoly, and in return they *give* their fruits of their labors back to the common good after a time. The second half of that bargain has not been lived up to in the US. Software patents amount to getting something for nothing; the endless extension of copyright is an explicit poke in the public's eye (Eldred was a shameful decision that says "forever minus a day" is not infinite).
Seeing as how DSL just became available in my neighborhood just this year (though Verizon has been tempting me with offers in the mail for the last 5 years), I kinda doubt this.
Verizon is also supposed to offer unbundled ("naked") DSL - that is, without a requirement to have Verizon phone service. When I say they are supposed to, I mean they are required to by law. They've been dragging their feet on this for years now and the FCC does nothing.
Which is what it comes down to. Since 1996, the FCC has ceased to become a regulatory entity (except when it comes to selective obscenity persecutions), and has become instead an industry protection racket. Other countries have stronger regulations. In the US the market fails, but as long as corporate profits are high, we're told it's a success.
I'd guess this has at least something to do with the weak offerings in the U.S.
So even if fiber connections do show up at US homes, it will still be inferior, artificially crippled, and overpriced.
For real - that site renders HORRIBLY. What it looks like is a badly designed CSS-heavy site with the CSS for firefox 100% broken or missing.
Oddly it renders just fine in Konqueror. And Epiphany looks like Firefox. And Opera looks fine.
Haven't tried, you know, using it or anything, but for a major company like Wal-Mart to do this bad a job, in this day and age, with a mainstream web browser, is AWFUL. Particularly because you actually have to go to some lengths to make it look this bad - it doesn't happen casually. You have to have made a conscious decision to do multiple different things to make it this bad!
I walked into the Wal-Mart online video store, and they gave me the finger.
I agree with this very much.
One can argue ad infinitum about what's a better overall approach - don't touch a damn thing, or stay relatively up to date. They both have problems - if
Don't even get me started about RedHat or Fedora or Asshat or whatever it is now. I need build customizations with some regularity, so binary releases are right out, and I occasionally need new software features. So the general Linux distro approach of having all your software tied to the same distro release number (excepting security updates, say) (and binary packages) just doesn't work for me at all. Why should I be stuck with Postgres 7.3 just because I installed the machine N years ago, or else decay into hand-compiles, or else wipe the thing clean? I've put in new disks and need tablespaces.
With FreeBSD, I find it easy to stay relatively up to date with ports, and easy to not touch a damn thing with the base OS. Kinda the best of both worlds. And this works pretty nicely both on servers *and* my laptop. Only patchy thing left is, say, updating sendmail for some security issue, and binary updates to the OS *are* becoming more standard.
I've always thought Gentoo looked interesting due to fixing the things that are ickly with FreeBSD's ports (I tried it once and a power failure hosed my data and I went back to FreeBSD). FreeBSD seems to manage OK with a "worse is better" benefit of ports (plus portupgrade and portaudit and portsnap!) versus emerge, which tries harder to be "correct" in many ways.