The equivalent of "Transient-for" windows in X is "child" windows in Win32. They literally use the parent id that normally indicates that the new window is inside another to indicate the "belongs to & keep above" type of property. A second argument to the create-window call says whether it is a real child window or a seperate one that on X would be indicated by setting the parent to the root.
Because according to this report, they discovered suspicios errors in Florida. They either did not or did not check Ohio.
You seem to be thinking the point of this is to somehow make Kerry win the election. That is not it at all, though the enemies of voter-verified voting want desperately to paint it that way and will do anything they can to convince you of that.
These Berkley people know damn well that Kerry did not win. Only their enemies make such accusations. Republicans (includiding dozens of posters here on Slashdot) are trying to make this out to be an attempt to challenge the election, and will say "sore loser Democrats" until they are blue in the face to try to stop people from investigating the machines. And these machiens need desperately to be investigated!
If "every single Linux user bought a copy" that would mean that 2% of computer users bought a copy, with would be extremely good results for the game.
However that is pretty unlikely. What you meant is that the amount of games sold for Linux is going to be about 2% the total, unless for some magic reason Linux users are much more likely to buy the game than Windows users. However if the cost of the Linux version is equal to the Windows version, Linux users would have to be 50 times more interested in the game than Windows users for it to be worthwhile.
In reality the extra cost of making the Linux version in addition to the Windows one is much less than twice, and the fact that profit is a significant portion of cost means that perhaps the Linux version is worth it if it appeals about 5x as much as the Windows version. Still quite impossible, but it explains why the desire to produce the Mac version is there despite it's perhaps 5% of the market, as this ratio quickly approaches 1.
I can't possibly form any intelligent opinions without spin! But for some reason it is missing. I just need two things explained about all these resignations:
1. The left needs to explain why this is proof that Bush's second term will result in the destruction of life on this and several nearby planets.
2. The right needs to explain why this is proof that Bush's second term is the second coming of Jesus and a new era of enlightenment.
All I'm seeing is reasoning and sensible conjectures! That's no fun! I want assinine extreme examples! Please help!
I am in no way saying copyright violations are ok. Personally I have NEVER downloaded an illegal copy of music, though I have bought quite a bit from iTunes and BLEEM.
But I am still quite annoyed at your attempts to equate two vastly different levels of copyright violation.
None of those illegal music downloaders claim they wrote Metallica's songs or sold copies of them claiming it was their own music.
So if a company simply doesn't claim ownership of the code, but merely gives it away free if you buy the hardware, it's ok since all they're doing is sharing a file in violation of a license?
YES!!!!
I see you are finally beginning to understand.
Oh, no, it seems you thought you were being sarcastic, right? Unfortunatly you actually pointed out the HUGE difference between downloading a copy of music and somebody attempting to claim they wrote that music themselves.
Nice trolling, but you lose.
There is tons and tons of GPL software available without source code on the net. Nobody does anything about it. That's because the people here are not hyprocrites, no matter how hard you struggle with your oh-so-clever attempts to make it sound that way.
Since in the last primary it was pretty much guaranteed who the Republican candidate was going to be, it would make sense that some interested people would have registered Democrat so they could vote in that primary. The fact that they did not like the result and voted for Bush anyway is not a big deal.
I have a feeling the Florida report is bogus, and may even be an attempt to redirect blame from the electronic machines to the OpScan machines. Here is some analysis:
Here is some opposing analysis that says this is nothing:
http://synapse.princeton.edu/~sam/royle_florida. ht ml
I am worried that this stuff is in fact an attempt to distract attention from the electronic voting machines. Optical scan actually is one of the best systems.
The thing is, Optical scan is used in rural counties that are mostly Republican, while the electronic machines are used in the mostly-Democrat cities. They never plot this information, instead trying to hide it behind population counts, which ignore the fact that there are some very large rural-only counties. The way it is plotted, in a rural county that is 3/4 Republican, a switch of 300 votes for Kerry from Republicans would match a switch of only 100 votes for Bush from Democrats. Thus it will look like the Republicans won in that plot, even though the actual results would be considered a huge win by Democrats.
This could very well be a deliberate attempt to manufacture data to try to make people suspect the optical scan machines are bad and electronic ones are good. That is scary...
Since the voting count was 5x the number of registered voters the error is pretty obvious. No way could it have been done 100 times to throw the election from Kerry to Bush.
http://synapse.princeton.edu/~sam/royle_florida. ht ml
Read the above linked paper, especially the responses. I agree that it does not appear to indicate fraud. I am worried that this is an attempt to deflect critisism of electronic machines by making it look like the older optical-scan machines are more likely to have been fixed and giving the election to Bush.
The reports generally say that the ratio of Bush voters over registered republicans was much higher in regions with optical scan machines than in regions with electronic voting machines. The unstated conclusion is thus if there is right-wing fraud it must not be the electronic machines.
However they neglect a number of facts:
The optical scan machines are used in more rural areas than the electronic machines which were used in cities. It is pretty well known that voters in rural areas went for Bush. Also rurual areas have more Republicans. But the way these things are plotted, in a county is registered 3/4 republican, 3 times as many Republicans could vote for Kerry than Democrats vote for Bush and the results would look equal on these plots, even though if you suspected fraud in those counties, it would be fraud for Kerry!
Some of the papers try to excuse this by eliminating low-population areas. But they are still considering a large rural county the same as a small but equally-populated urban county. All the plots completely ignore the ratio of Democrats to Republicans which must vary from 25% to 70%. This hides a lot of information and amplifies noise. A better plot would be to eliminate all counties where the registration numbers are much different than 50/50, which are the counties anybody wanting to commit fraud would concentrate. However I suspect that would show random noise and discredit these papers.
This may just be people plotting random stuff and shouting when they find correlation. However there is the nagging conspiracy theory that this information is planted on purpose to try to get mindless Democrat followers to stop attacking the electronic machines and start claiming that the electronic machines are better. Pretty damn insidious!
You are repeating the same stuff I see over and over again.
Yes Kerry LOST. I want the machines investigated, even though IT WILL NOT MAKE HIM WIN.
I know that. You even act like you know that with several pages of support. But you kill it with that one little line that I see from every single Republican when voting machine irregularities come up:
"Bush won. Again. Get over it."
Just saying that completely negates the rest of your argument because you are providing dismissal of all questioning about the election.
There seems to be a distinct and deliberate attempt by Republicans to link investigation of the voting machines with "sort loser Democrats that want to challenge the election".
Yes there are *some* Democrats who are deluded enough to believe they can challenge the election. But reading the responses here it is obvious that not all of them believe that. However I have yet to see a single top-level post by a Republican here that is not "oh you whiny Democrats, shut up, you are losers".
Don't forget that the next election the machines may be fixed by a Liberal.
This sounds correct. I was assumming a physical impossibility where the earth acts as a blackbody only directly toward the sun but is entirely insulating in all other directions. The quote was from a book about the sky being the color of a star's surface if the universe was infinite and of infinite age. I quite mistakenly thought this would apply if somehow the earth did not reflect any energy. My bad.
Expose works acceptably on my old iBook (600mhz g3). The scaling is non-antialiased, though. This may indicate that they went around the software OpenGL and drew the smaller images directly to get enough speed?
You probably don't want voters spending the time reading ballot initiatives and pro/con argument statements when at the voting machine. The line at the polling place would get really long.
I like that idea. Bush could win enormous amounts of karma from Liberals by calling for an investigation of any voting irregularities. It would be a huge political win. He is quite safe as there is no chance of there being a big enough irregularity to indicate the election was wrong.
If you are talking about the machine recording 3000 *extra* votes for Bush, it is true that if this happend 30 times then this would be 90000 extra votes for Bush, which is approaching the margin. However these are *extra* votes, it would be pretty obvious if there were 90,000 more votes from these areas than there are voters. Also the areas are then voting 95% for Bush which is extremely unlikely. So I do not think this error is repeated 30 times, it would have been obvious and detected by now.
Looks to me like the population is divided by the area to get the bar height. Thus the *volume* is the population, which makes sense. Though it can still be really misleading anyway.
It would also help if they mixed the red and blue in the proportion of the votes.
These errors do not change the election result! Bush won by too big of a margin in Ohio and Florida, any assumption that the machines threw it for Bush would mean that those counties would have had to vote in tremendous numbers for Kerry (like 70%), which is impossible. But that does NOT mean we should not investigate them. In fact it means it is the BEST time to investigate them!
Unfortunately I see way too many Republicans saying "it's those sore loser Democrats trying to cause trouble". And quite a few Democrats saying "this proves the election was wrong"
We MUST investigate these machines. This is the best time to do so, there is now tons of proof that they are screwed up, but the investigation can be just into the machines themselves and the people behind them, without any threat to the stability of our government.
But as long as people keep whining about "sore loser Democrats" or "election was wrong" then it will discourage any investigaton. This is BAD, BAD BAD!! These machines may throw the NEXT election. And Republicans had better realize that a single wild hippie Liberal in the wrong place could use them to throw it toward the left, this is NOT a partisian issue! Everybody should be in agreement that these machines need to be gotten rid of NOW. Don't blow our best chance by making this a partisian mess.
It would seem to me the fact that he did win the popular vote this time is good enough. Saying he got "more votes than anybody in history" is pretty stupid and unnecessary.
Despite being a Libearal, I have to say that it only took about 1 day longer for me to see a Democrat saying something exactly as stupid. They said "Kerry got more votes than any other opponent of an incumbent in history". This is of course exactly, precisely, the same level of stupidity demonstrated by our Republican friend above. Everybody is the same, it seems...
Also it's important to point out that you can put a nasty huge sin tax on them to keep the price approximately where it is and use all that money to fund drug treatement. This certainly would be a much better use of that money than it's current use to fund crime.
It's probably most important that the war on drugs profits the drug dealers themselves! They are extremely interested in having it continues. Legal drugs would be a disaster for them.
My point is that this "lawsuit" is NOT to change the election results. Yet I have now seen dozens and dozens of posts from right-wingers who want to claim this is the left trying to throw the election. They outnumber the actual left claims that this discredits the elections by a factor of 10:1 at least. I'm sorry, but it is pretty clear which side wants the country to remain divided and angry.
It is also bad news that the right is going to use this blather to stop the very important investigations of these machines, probably as an unintended side effect of their desire to make the left look rabid. These machines can just as easily be fixed to throw an election to a liberal, you know. Everybody should be against them!
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Not only that, the majority of people here want copyright reduced to 20 years, or even less.
Sounds like that web site is full of direct lies.
The equivalent of "Transient-for" windows in X is "child" windows in Win32. They literally use the parent id that normally indicates that the new window is inside another to indicate the "belongs to & keep above" type of property. A second argument to the create-window call says whether it is a real child window or a seperate one that on X would be indicated by setting the parent to the root.
Because according to this report, they discovered suspicios errors in Florida. They either did not or did not check Ohio.
You seem to be thinking the point of this is to somehow make Kerry win the election. That is not it at all, though the enemies of voter-verified voting want desperately to paint it that way and will do anything they can to convince you of that.
These Berkley people know damn well that Kerry did not win. Only their enemies make such accusations. Republicans (includiding dozens of posters here on Slashdot) are trying to make this out to be an attempt to challenge the election, and will say "sore loser Democrats" until they are blue in the face to try to stop people from investigating the machines. And these machiens need desperately to be investigated!
If "every single Linux user bought a copy" that would mean that 2% of computer users bought a copy, with would be extremely good results for the game.
However that is pretty unlikely. What you meant is that the amount of games sold for Linux is going to be about 2% the total, unless for some magic reason Linux users are much more likely to buy the game than Windows users. However if the cost of the Linux version is equal to the Windows version, Linux users would have to be 50 times more interested in the game than Windows users for it to be worthwhile.
In reality the extra cost of making the Linux version in addition to the Windows one is much less than twice, and the fact that profit is a significant portion of cost means that perhaps the Linux version is worth it if it appeals about 5x as much as the Windows version. Still quite impossible, but it explains why the desire to produce the Mac version is there despite it's perhaps 5% of the market, as this ratio quickly approaches 1.
I can't possibly form any intelligent opinions without spin! But for some reason it is missing. I just need two things explained about all these resignations:
1. The left needs to explain why this is proof that Bush's second term will result in the destruction of life on this and several nearby planets.
2. The right needs to explain why this is proof that Bush's second term is the second coming of Jesus and a new era of enlightenment.
All I'm seeing is reasoning and sensible conjectures! That's no fun! I want assinine extreme examples! Please help!
I am in no way saying copyright violations are ok. Personally I have NEVER downloaded an illegal copy of music, though I have bought quite a bit from iTunes and BLEEM.
But I am still quite annoyed at your attempts to equate two vastly different levels of copyright violation.
None of those illegal music downloaders claim they wrote Metallica's songs or sold copies of them claiming it was their own music.
So if a company simply doesn't claim ownership of the code, but merely gives it away free if you buy the hardware, it's ok since all they're doing is sharing a file in violation of a license?
YES!!!!
I see you are finally beginning to understand.
Oh, no, it seems you thought you were being sarcastic, right? Unfortunatly you actually pointed out the HUGE difference between downloading a copy of music and somebody attempting to claim they wrote that music themselves.
Nice trolling, but you lose.
There is tons and tons of GPL software available without source code on the net. Nobody does anything about it. That's because the people here are not hyprocrites, no matter how hard you struggle with your oh-so-clever attempts to make it sound that way.
Apparently the same thing is true in Florida.
Since in the last primary it was pretty much guaranteed who the Republican candidate was going to be, it would make sense that some interested people would have registered Democrat so they could vote in that primary. The fact that they did not like the result and voted for Bush anyway is not a big deal.
I have a feeling the Florida report is bogus, and may even be an attempt to redirect blame from the electronic machines to the OpScan machines. Here is some analysis:
t ml
http://synapse.princeton.edu/~sam/royle_florida.h
Here is some opposing analysis that says this is nothing:
. ht ml
http://synapse.princeton.edu/~sam/royle_florida
I am worried that this stuff is in fact an attempt to distract attention from the electronic voting machines. Optical scan actually is one of the best systems.
The thing is, Optical scan is used in rural counties that are mostly Republican, while the electronic machines are used in the mostly-Democrat cities. They never plot this information, instead trying to hide it behind population counts, which ignore the fact that there are some very large rural-only counties. The way it is plotted, in a rural county that is 3/4 Republican, a switch of 300 votes for Kerry from Republicans would match a switch of only 100 votes for Bush from Democrats. Thus it will look like the Republicans won in that plot, even though the actual results would be considered a huge win by Democrats.
This could very well be a deliberate attempt to manufacture data to try to make people suspect the optical scan machines are bad and electronic ones are good. That is scary...
Since the voting count was 5x the number of registered voters the error is pretty obvious. No way could it have been done 100 times to throw the election from Kerry to Bush.
Here is some analysis that says it is nothing:
. ht ml
http://synapse.princeton.edu/~sam/royle_florida
Read the above linked paper, especially the responses. I agree that it does not appear to indicate fraud. I am worried that this is an attempt to deflect critisism of electronic machines by making it look like the older optical-scan machines are more likely to have been fixed and giving the election to Bush.
The reports generally say that the ratio of Bush voters over registered republicans was much higher in regions with optical scan machines than in regions with electronic voting machines. The unstated conclusion is thus if there is right-wing fraud it must not be the electronic machines.
However they neglect a number of facts:
The optical scan machines are used in more rural areas than the electronic machines which were used in cities. It is pretty well known that voters in rural areas went for Bush. Also rurual areas have more Republicans. But the way these things are plotted, in a county is registered 3/4 republican, 3 times as many Republicans could vote for Kerry than Democrats vote for Bush and the results would look equal on these plots, even though if you suspected
fraud in those counties, it would be fraud for Kerry!
Some of the papers try to excuse this by eliminating low-population areas. But they are still considering a large rural county the same as a small but equally-populated urban county. All the plots completely ignore the ratio of Democrats to Republicans which must vary from 25% to 70%. This hides a lot of information and amplifies noise. A better plot would be to eliminate all
counties where the registration numbers are much different than 50/50, which are the counties anybody wanting to commit fraud would concentrate. However I suspect that would show random noise and discredit these papers.
This may just be people plotting random stuff and shouting when they find correlation. However there is the nagging conspiracy theory that this information is planted on purpose to try to get mindless Democrat followers to stop attacking the electronic machines and start claiming that the electronic machines are better. Pretty damn insidious!
You are repeating the same stuff I see over and over again.
Yes Kerry LOST. I want the machines investigated, even though IT WILL NOT MAKE HIM WIN.
I know that. You even act like you know that with several pages of support. But you kill it with that one little line that I see from every single Republican when voting machine irregularities come up:
"Bush won. Again. Get over it."
Just saying that completely negates the rest of your argument because you are providing dismissal of all questioning about the election.
There seems to be a distinct and deliberate attempt by Republicans to link investigation of the voting machines with "sort loser Democrats that want to challenge the election".
Yes there are *some* Democrats who are deluded enough to believe they can challenge the election. But reading the responses here it is obvious that not all of them believe that. However I have yet to see a single top-level post by a Republican here that is not "oh you whiny Democrats, shut up, you are losers".
Don't forget that the next election the machines may be fixed by a Liberal.
This sounds correct. I was assumming a physical impossibility where the earth acts as a blackbody only directly toward the sun but is entirely insulating in all other directions. The quote was from a book about the sky being the color of a star's surface if the universe was infinite and of infinite age. I quite mistakenly thought this would apply if somehow the earth did not reflect any energy. My bad.
Expose works acceptably on my old iBook (600mhz g3). The scaling is non-antialiased, though. This may indicate that they went around the software OpenGL and drew the smaller images directly to get enough speed?
The temperature is raised by the *sun*.
If the earth did not radiate any energy to space, the surface would equalize with the sun's surface within a few years at 5000 degrees.
Therefore it seems quite believable that slight changes in how much energy is radiated would lead to the temperature changing.
You probably don't want voters spending the time reading ballot initiatives and pro/con argument statements when at the voting machine. The line at the polling place would get really long.
I like that idea. Bush could win enormous amounts of karma from Liberals by calling for an investigation of any voting irregularities. It would be a huge political win. He is quite safe as there is no chance of there being a big enough irregularity to indicate the election was wrong.
If you are talking about the machine recording 3000 *extra* votes for Bush, it is true that if this happend 30 times then this would be 90000 extra votes for Bush, which is approaching the margin. However these are *extra* votes, it would be pretty obvious if there were 90,000 more votes from these areas than there are voters. Also the areas are then voting 95% for Bush which is extremely unlikely. So I do not think this error is repeated 30 times, it would have been obvious and detected by now.
Looks to me like the population is divided by the area to get the bar height. Thus the *volume* is the population, which makes sense. Though it can still be really misleading anyway.
It would also help if they mixed the red and blue in the proportion of the votes.
These errors do not change the election result! Bush won by too big of a margin in Ohio and Florida, any assumption that the machines threw it for Bush would mean that those counties would have had to vote in tremendous numbers for Kerry (like 70%), which is impossible. But that does NOT mean we should not investigate them. In fact it means it is the BEST time to investigate them!
Unfortunately I see way too many Republicans saying "it's those sore loser Democrats trying to cause trouble". And quite a few Democrats saying "this proves the election was wrong"
We MUST investigate these machines. This is the best time to do so, there is now tons of proof that they are screwed up, but the investigation can be just into the machines themselves and the people behind them, without any threat to the stability of our government.
But as long as people keep whining about "sore loser Democrats" or "election was wrong" then it will discourage any investigaton. This is BAD, BAD BAD!! These machines may throw the NEXT election. And Republicans had better realize that a single wild hippie Liberal in the wrong place could use them to throw it toward the left, this is NOT a partisian issue! Everybody should be in agreement that these machines need to be gotten rid of NOW. Don't blow our best chance by making this a partisian mess.
It would seem to me the fact that he did win the popular vote this time is good enough. Saying he got "more votes than anybody in history" is pretty stupid and unnecessary.
Despite being a Libearal, I have to say that it only took about 1 day longer for me to see a Democrat saying something exactly as stupid. They said "Kerry got more votes than any other opponent of an incumbent in history". This is of course exactly, precisely, the same level of stupidity demonstrated by our Republican friend above. Everybody is the same, it seems...
Also it's important to point out that you can put a nasty huge sin tax on them to keep the price approximately where it is and use all that money to fund drug treatement. This certainly would be a much better use of that money than it's current use to fund crime.
It's probably most important that the war on drugs profits the drug dealers themselves! They are extremely interested in having it continues. Legal drugs would be a disaster for them.
My point is that this "lawsuit" is NOT to change the election results. Yet I have now seen dozens and dozens of posts from right-wingers who want to claim this is the left trying to throw the election. They outnumber the actual left claims that this discredits the elections by a factor of 10:1 at least. I'm sorry, but it is pretty clear which side wants the country to remain divided and angry.
It is also bad news that the right is going to use this blather to stop the very important investigations of these machines, probably as an unintended side effect of their desire to make the left look rabid. These machines can just as easily be fixed to throw an election to a liberal, you know. Everybody should be against them!