I hate "journalism" like this. Why even report something using words like "may have". It conveys nothing. "monkeys may have flown out of butt" yes folks that's a true statement. I see this all time on talk-tv especially on fox. Most of their analysts are very fond of saying "may-have" when they just want to smear someone without presenting evidence. Too bad americans are so easily fooled by these weasel words.
I can't believe that senators have to waste their time dealing with a fucking hat issue by the army. can't the God-damned army deal with their stupid hats without getting the congress involved? It's a hat people!.
when I was in the military I was shocked to see how much the military wastes on training their people on the proper way to wear a hat and all the damned rules about when, how, which hat to wear. The funny thing is that none of the damned hats (except the BDUs) served a purpose at all. they did not keep the sun out of your eyes, did not keep your head warm, did not keep it from getting wet. Stupid,stupid, stupid. I am so glad I am no longer in the military.
That's what most corpies do. Write a fat check and congress critter will not only read your letter but will lick your ass while he is doing it.
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That's why a system like that would never work here in the US. People in the US only think for themselves and how they can rip off the government. "take away their money and give it to me" is the mantra of the american. Everybody hates government waste except when those tax dollars end up in their pockets.
Ask any farmer or rancher what they think of welfare and they'll tell you how those lazy asses should gett off their butt and get a job, ask them to give up subsidies and they'll shoot you where you stand.
Funny how different the europeans seem to be then us. It always surprises me.
WOW after years and years of investigation and a buttload of money spent and hundreds of lawyers the combined might of the congress, keneth starr, conservative legal foundations, newsweek, time, new york times, washing post, fox TV and fox news, CNBC, MSNBC etc could not make any of the charges stick except for one thing.
Did you stick you dick in monica lewinsky? No I did not.
That's it one lie under oath in a deposition. Not only that but the it was a deposition in a sexual harrasment case about a consentual relationship. That suit was settled eventually BTW.
Listen just because Rush or Bill Oreilly says it, that does not mean it's true. If a hundred of the highest paid lawyers in the world could not make any of the accusations you just so carelessly made stick why should we believe you? I millions of dollars spent and the awsome powers of the senate and the house and the independent council could not gather enough evidence to make a case then all you have left are baseless accusations.
Nixon was a traitor, reagan betrayed his country, Bush sr. killed a hundred thousand arabs for cheaper oil, clinton lied under oath, bush jr. will ruin the environment (he has already started).
"If the SSL cert is for an intranet, you don't need to pay for it - you can generate it yourself and still be assured that it came from a trustworthy source since it is for internal use."
Go back and re-read the thread. This has nothing to do with what I am saying. It should not matter weather my servers are in the same domain, a different domain, a different IP, visible to the outside world or not. The purpose of a certificate is to assure somebody that I am who I say I am. Once verisign or thawte has done that they have no business charging me for every server or IP address I have. I can maybe accept a nominal fee per key to pay for the microsecond of computer time it takes to generate one but they are simply ripping off people by charging per server and per IP.
I have one business, one billing address, one president, one CEO, one listing with Dunn and Bradstreet, one corporate licence. I have about a dozen domain names, a hand full of IP addresses, and a buttload of virtual servers. I should be able to apply the same key on all of them if I want to. All my customers care about is that somebody checked me out.
This has nothing to do with information it has to do with abuse of a monopoly.
Like I said it is impossible to prove a negative. It's a nonsensical gesture to try and prove that god does not exists nor does it make sense to say "there is not enough evidence to suggest that god does not exists". It's like saying what's north of the north pole?
BTW the universe in no way, shape, or form implies a god. It's an effect for which we do not know the cause. Throughout history people have always lumped up the sum of all of their ignorance and called it god. People did not know what made thunder so they invented a thunder god, they did not understand flooding so they made a god of water. We do not know what created the universe so we invent a god. More that things change the more they stay the same. We are still the same bunch of ignorant monkeys.
I did look at the other CAs, Most of them don't even sell to end users. I went down the list of CAs on IE and attempted to contact a good percentage of them and had zero luck. Most of them actually cost more then thawte.
Actually the so called background check is a red herring. If that was true then I should be able make every single server in my domain secure without having to pay extra. After all it's the same company and they don't need to do a check all over again for intranet.mydomain.com do they? Same for renewals. When I renew a certificate it ought to be almost free. They don't do a second check and you don't have to fill out new forms. Just give them your password and they renew your cert. So why does it cost another $100.00? Finally if my comapny decides to buy another domain name then why do I have to pay for new certs? It's still me and they have already done a check right?
It has nothing to do with background checks or proving who you are. They just rely on Dunn & Bradstreet anyway. It's all about the monopoly and collusion.
If that's the case then who the certificates expire? Why are renewals almost the same cost as the new certificates? Why does a ceritifcate only apply to one server AND one DNS entry. If the cost of the certificate was due to someone verifying who I am then I should be able to make every single one of my server and subdomains be secure without paying extra. If I then purchase another domain and I present a receipt to the CA then I should be able secure every single subdomain of that too.
The real reason they can do this is because they have a monopoly.
explain this total nonsensical sentence.
So a person who does not believe in god will believe anything? Huh? Maybe the person who does not believe in god is actually concerned about truth and evidence you think?
No the mesage is that that rules of society should not depend on a two thousand year old book written by people who could not possibly have a grasp of what your world looks like now. Remember these people had no conception of anything outside of their little world the bible never mentions anything outside of a postage stamp size of the world which the jews knew about.
Not only that but this book should never be used to justify any action denying someone their civil rights or killing someone.
As it stands a society built on christian values like the US suffers from the highest crime rate in the world, ethics is a joke when the CEO of the biggest company in the world can lie under oath and tamper with evidence, when a corporation can kill hundres of people because it costs too much money ot make a safe tire. Ethics in america is all about money baby that what your bible brought forth. Maybe I am being unfair maybe Adam Smith singlehandedly destroyed any influence that Jesus might have had on the shape of this society after all I don't see Jesus accumulating wealth but I see Adam Smith doing it.
I do. It's like stalking. I might enjoy being stalked by by the cute brunette across the street but would not enjoy being stalked by her second cousin. As the recepient of unwanted attentention is is purely up to me to decide when I have been wronged. Much like the rest of the criminal justice system action does not take plcae until some victim presses charges. Spamming ought to begin with just that. I was spammed officer and I wish to press charges.
"Standing outside my house with a bullhorn is disturbing the peace. Spamming me disturbs my delete key for about a quarter of a second"
Why should I be disturbed by even a uqarter of a second. Why is your desire to make some money more important then my quarter of a second. What the hell do I care how much money you want to make? Those quarter of a seconds add up.
"But I thought that we're not supposed to blame Napster for the behavior of its users. Did everyone change their mind on that one?"
Maybe on the planet you are on nobody blames the users of napster but on this planet people blamed the users of napster more then napster itself (for the right reasons I might add). Can I buy a ticket to your planet it sounds very nice.
"Just curious, but what's the cost in resources and works-gummed-up that spammers have cost you? I shudder to think of all the time that the spam-busters have spent for free, and how much more they could've been doing with their lives instead."
Why should they even cost me one milisecond of my life. What gives them that right? Who are you to tell people how they should spend their time?
"And vigilante action is great fun until the day comes that the vigilante groups are against you."
What part of encouraging your lawmakers to pass laws is considered vigilante? What part of locking up your SMTP server to preven relaying constitutes vigilanteism? Can I buy a ticket to your planet please it seems nice over there.
I think it's because like most americans slashdotters believe that freedoms should apply to human beings and not corporations or other businesses. Businesses should not be allowed to remain anonymous. They are not people and have to be registered with the state anyway. A business which attempts to do commerce anynmously should at a minimum be fined heavily and have it's license yanked. The only reason for a business to remain anonymous is for criminal purposes.
Nevertheless it's a good idea. Every time a german buys an MS operating system some money flows out of germany and into the US. Great for us, sucks for germany. Every country should make a policiy to use it's own products in it's own government. Anything else is saying your own countryman could not create a decent product and what the hell kind of an endorsement is that?
I am always shocked when I hear that another government has standardised on some american product or another. Even if the products made in your own country are somewhat inferior why would you give away the tax dollars collected from your own citizens to a foreign corporation? Besides I am finding it hard to believe that a country which can make BMWs could not produce quality software.
Well your rant is obviously out of profound ignorance so I won't go into it point by point except to say this.
It is impossible to prove a negative. You can not prove that "there is no god". It is up to the person making some outragous claim to prove their claim. The religious of this world wants us to believe that there is a supreme being who is invisible, lives in the sky and created the universe. I don't have to prove that this is false (it is ridiculus after all) you have to prove that it's true. Until you do prove it I don't have to believe it. My disbelief in your ridiculus statements has nothing to do with faith. I hope you can understand the difference. It has nothing to do with evolution, flying horses, stars, carbon dating or anything else.
Here is my beef. If like you say religion is not a all or nothing proposition then the bible is just some text that anybody is free to interpret any way they want. Ok fine.
The problem occurs when the bible is interpreted to deny people housing, jobs or civil rights. Even worse when it is interpreted to justify killing people.
The probelm with a "take whatever you want" approach is that it gives other people take whatever portion of the bible they like and ignore the rest. While you may zero in on "turn the other cheek" somebody else may zero in on "salt the earth".
I don't like whitespace. Especially if your code is over a screen long and has multilevel ifs and whiles and such. As you get to the bottom of your code you never really know what you are closing. I also don't like braces for the same reason. What I do like is the new PHP
if:
else:
endif;
blocks PHP now supports a endoperator for every structure including foreach, switch, while etc..
super cool.
I don't know python and I might like to learn it. Before I do though..
What I like best about perl is CPAN. Perl can find and load a CPAN module for you and CPAN is full of well documented well tested code which saves me days and days of work.
I have looked at zope on and off but I gotta admit I am having trouble taking the plunge. I took to PHP like fish to water and really like it a lot but PHP has some onnoyances that I'd like to get rid of.
What does Zope offer to me? DTML looks overly verbose and too hard to read and besides one of the reasons I want to ditch PHP is so that I won't be mixing code and HTML in the same page. I like the built in user management and the hierchical system but is it worth learning a new language? how about performance?
Please tell me what makes zope so good that I'd want to take the plunge.
First of all wate can always be turned back on if let's say a thousand people broke the doors at the plant. It's really not that big of a deal if the people hit the streets in a big way.
Having said all that a big revolution is not likely to happen here. Instead we will see increased terrorism like Oklahoma City. Right now not enough people are agitated and the Rich and the powerful of this country are very careful to squeeze slowly and constantly bombard the population with the message that everything is cool. The first wave should be to agitate the masses into discomfort. Once you shake them out of their TV stupor then the corpies will might panic and apply overcorrection. Of course this will back fire by agitating even more sheep.
So the next revolution will kick off with mundane stuff like fertilizer, poisoned water supplies, nerve gas released on subways and skyscrapers and of course good old snipers. The west is already agitated beyond belief thanks to Radio Talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh. A huge percentage of the states like nevada, montana, arizona, texas etc are already arming and training. All we gotta do is to nudge them over the edge. Believe me that's easy as these people believe the UN is poised to invade america and that the govt has weather control machines.
"Now for the hard question: How can you guarantee that what you end up with would be any better than what you started with? "
No guarantees. Sometimes you just gotta shake things up and hope for the best. If life is miserable enough then people will tear things down with the hope that what follows can not be worse. The trick is to make life more and more miserable for the sheep. Really your best best to destroy TV receiving satelites or bomb the cable companies. Once you stop the TV the sheep will panic like all hell (man wouldn't that be fun to watch!).
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I hate "journalism" like this. Why even report something using words like "may have". It conveys nothing. "monkeys may have flown out of butt" yes folks that's a true statement. I see this all time on talk-tv especially on fox. Most of their analysts are very fond of saying "may-have" when they just want to smear someone without presenting evidence. Too bad americans are so easily fooled by these weasel words.
I can't believe that senators have to waste their time dealing with a fucking hat issue by the army. can't the God-damned army deal with their stupid hats without getting the congress involved? It's a hat people!.
,stupid, stupid. I am so glad I am no longer in the military.
when I was in the military I was shocked to see how much the military wastes on training their people on the proper way to wear a hat and all the damned rules about when, how, which hat to wear. The funny thing is that none of the damned hats (except the BDUs) served a purpose at all. they did not keep the sun out of your eyes, did not keep your head warm, did not keep it from getting wet. Stupid
That's what most corpies do. Write a fat check and congress critter will not only read your letter but will lick your ass while he is doing it.
That's why a system like that would never work here in the US. People in the US only think for themselves and how they can rip off the government. "take away their money and give it to me" is the mantra of the american. Everybody hates government waste except when those tax dollars end up in their pockets.
Ask any farmer or rancher what they think of welfare and they'll tell you how those lazy asses should gett off their butt and get a job, ask them to give up subsidies and they'll shoot you where you stand.
Funny how different the europeans seem to be then us. It always surprises me.
WOW after years and years of investigation and a buttload of money spent and hundreds of lawyers the combined might of the congress, keneth starr, conservative legal foundations, newsweek, time, new york times, washing post, fox TV and fox news, CNBC, MSNBC etc could not make any of the charges stick except for one thing.
Did you stick you dick in monica lewinsky? No I did not.
That's it one lie under oath in a deposition. Not only that but the it was a deposition in a sexual harrasment case about a consentual relationship. That suit was settled eventually BTW.
Listen just because Rush or Bill Oreilly says it, that does not mean it's true. If a hundred of the highest paid lawyers in the world could not make any of the accusations you just so carelessly made stick why should we believe you? I millions of dollars spent and the awsome powers of the senate and the house and the independent council could not gather enough evidence to make a case then all you have left are baseless accusations.
Nixon was a traitor, reagan betrayed his country, Bush sr. killed a hundred thousand arabs for cheaper oil, clinton lied under oath, bush jr. will ruin the environment (he has already started).
"If the SSL cert is for an intranet, you don't need to pay for it - you can generate it yourself and still be assured that it came from a trustworthy source since it is for internal use."
Go back and re-read the thread. This has nothing to do with what I am saying. It should not matter weather my servers are in the same domain, a different domain, a different IP, visible to the outside world or not. The purpose of a certificate is to assure somebody that I am who I say I am. Once verisign or thawte has done that they have no business charging me for every server or IP address I have. I can maybe accept a nominal fee per key to pay for the microsecond of computer time it takes to generate one but they are simply ripping off people by charging per server and per IP.
I have one business, one billing address, one president, one CEO, one listing with Dunn and Bradstreet, one corporate licence. I have about a dozen domain names, a hand full of IP addresses, and a buttload of virtual servers. I should be able to apply the same key on all of them if I want to. All my customers care about is that somebody checked me out.
This has nothing to do with information it has to do with abuse of a monopoly.
Like I said it is impossible to prove a negative. It's a nonsensical gesture to try and prove that god does not exists nor does it make sense to say "there is not enough evidence to suggest that god does not exists". It's like saying what's north of the north pole?
BTW the universe in no way, shape, or form implies a god. It's an effect for which we do not know the cause. Throughout history people have always lumped up the sum of all of their ignorance and called it god. People did not know what made thunder so they invented a thunder god, they did not understand flooding so they made a god of water. We do not know what created the universe so we invent a god. More that things change the more they stay the same. We are still the same bunch of ignorant monkeys.
I did look at the other CAs, Most of them don't even sell to end users. I went down the list of CAs on IE and attempted to contact a good percentage of them and had zero luck. Most of them actually cost more then thawte.
Anyhow you failed to address any of my points.
Actually the so called background check is a red herring. If that was true then I should be able make every single server in my domain secure without having to pay extra. After all it's the same company and they don't need to do a check all over again for intranet.mydomain.com do they? Same for renewals. When I renew a certificate it ought to be almost free. They don't do a second check and you don't have to fill out new forms. Just give them your password and they renew your cert. So why does it cost another $100.00? Finally if my comapny decides to buy another domain name then why do I have to pay for new certs? It's still me and they have already done a check right?
It has nothing to do with background checks or proving who you are. They just rely on Dunn & Bradstreet anyway. It's all about the monopoly and collusion.
If that's the case then who the certificates expire? Why are renewals almost the same cost as the new certificates? Why does a ceritifcate only apply to one server AND one DNS entry. If the cost of the certificate was due to someone verifying who I am then I should be able to make every single one of my server and subdomains be secure without paying extra. If I then purchase another domain and I present a receipt to the CA then I should be able secure every single subdomain of that too.
The real reason they can do this is because they have a monopoly.
oooh a micro-soft astro turfer will no longer reply to my posts I am scared now boss.
Why else would anybody else spam? How much spam have you gotten from real live human beings? Once again can I buy a ticket to your planet please.
explain this total nonsensical sentence.
So a person who does not believe in god will believe anything? Huh? Maybe the person who does not believe in god is actually concerned about truth and evidence you think?
No the mesage is that that rules of society should not depend on a two thousand year old book written by people who could not possibly have a grasp of what your world looks like now. Remember these people had no conception of anything outside of their little world the bible never mentions anything outside of a postage stamp size of the world which the jews knew about.
Not only that but this book should never be used to justify any action denying someone their civil rights or killing someone.
As it stands a society built on christian values like the US suffers from the highest crime rate in the world, ethics is a joke when the CEO of the biggest company in the world can lie under oath and tamper with evidence, when a corporation can kill hundres of people because it costs too much money ot make a safe tire. Ethics in america is all about money baby that what your bible brought forth. Maybe I am being unfair maybe Adam Smith singlehandedly destroyed any influence that Jesus might have had on the shape of this society after all I don't see Jesus accumulating wealth but I see Adam Smith doing it.
"Who decides what spam is and isn't?"
I do. It's like stalking. I might enjoy being stalked by by the cute brunette across the street but would not enjoy being stalked by her second cousin. As the recepient of unwanted attentention is is purely up to me to decide when I have been wronged. Much like the rest of the criminal justice system action does not take plcae until some victim presses charges. Spamming ought to begin with just that. I was spammed officer and I wish to press charges.
"Standing outside my house with a bullhorn is disturbing the peace. Spamming me disturbs my delete key for about a quarter of a second"
Why should I be disturbed by even a uqarter of a second. Why is your desire to make some money more important then my quarter of a second. What the hell do I care how much money you want to make? Those quarter of a seconds add up.
"But I thought that we're not supposed to blame Napster for the behavior of its users. Did everyone change their mind on that one?"
Maybe on the planet you are on nobody blames the users of napster but on this planet people blamed the users of napster more then napster itself (for the right reasons I might add). Can I buy a ticket to your planet it sounds very nice.
"Just curious, but what's the cost in resources and works-gummed-up that spammers have cost you? I shudder to think of all the time that the spam-busters have spent for free, and how much more they could've been doing with their lives instead."
Why should they even cost me one milisecond of my life. What gives them that right? Who are you to tell people how they should spend their time?
"And vigilante action is great fun until the day comes that the vigilante groups are against you."
What part of encouraging your lawmakers to pass laws is considered vigilante? What part of locking up your SMTP server to preven relaying constitutes vigilanteism? Can I buy a ticket to your planet please it seems nice over there.
I think it's because like most americans slashdotters believe that freedoms should apply to human beings and not corporations or other businesses. Businesses should not be allowed to remain anonymous. They are not people and have to be registered with the state anyway. A business which attempts to do commerce anynmously should at a minimum be fined heavily and have it's license yanked. The only reason for a business to remain anonymous is for criminal purposes.
Well gee I wonder why free speech was included in the constitution and not aids or red cross?
Nevertheless it's a good idea. Every time a german buys an MS operating system some money flows out of germany and into the US. Great for us, sucks for germany. Every country should make a policiy to use it's own products in it's own government. Anything else is saying your own countryman could not create a decent product and what the hell kind of an endorsement is that?
I am always shocked when I hear that another government has standardised on some american product or another. Even if the products made in your own country are somewhat inferior why would you give away the tax dollars collected from your own citizens to a foreign corporation? Besides I am finding it hard to believe that a country which can make BMWs could not produce quality software.
Too bad the real world always does not allow such a luxury. Tell me you never scrolled up to see what the hell you were closing.
Well your rant is obviously out of profound ignorance so I won't go into it point by point except to say this.
It is impossible to prove a negative. You can not prove that "there is no god". It is up to the person making some outragous claim to prove their claim. The religious of this world wants us to believe that there is a supreme being who is invisible, lives in the sky and created the universe. I don't have to prove that this is false (it is ridiculus after all) you have to prove that it's true. Until you do prove it I don't have to believe it. My disbelief in your ridiculus statements has nothing to do with faith. I hope you can understand the difference. It has nothing to do with evolution, flying horses, stars, carbon dating or anything else.
You claim there is a god now prove it.
Here is my beef. If like you say religion is not a all or nothing proposition then the bible is just some text that anybody is free to interpret any way they want. Ok fine.
The problem occurs when the bible is interpreted to deny people housing, jobs or civil rights. Even worse when it is interpreted to justify killing people.
The probelm with a "take whatever you want" approach is that it gives other people take whatever portion of the bible they like and ignore the rest. While you may zero in on "turn the other cheek" somebody else may zero in on "salt the earth".
I don't like whitespace. Especially if your code is over a screen long and has multilevel ifs and whiles and such. As you get to the bottom of your code you never really know what you are closing. I also don't like braces for the same reason. What I do like is the new PHP
if:
else:
endif;
blocks PHP now supports a endoperator for every structure including foreach, switch, while etc..
super cool.
I don't know python and I might like to learn it. Before I do though..
What I like best about perl is CPAN. Perl can find and load a CPAN module for you and CPAN is full of well documented well tested code which saves me days and days of work.
Does python have anything resembling CPAN?
I have looked at zope on and off but I gotta admit I am having trouble taking the plunge. I took to PHP like fish to water and really like it a lot but PHP has some onnoyances that I'd like to get rid of.
What does Zope offer to me? DTML looks overly verbose and too hard to read and besides one of the reasons I want to ditch PHP is so that I won't be mixing code and HTML in the same page. I like the built in user management and the hierchical system but is it worth learning a new language? how about performance?
Please tell me what makes zope so good that I'd want to take the plunge.
First of all wate can always be turned back on if let's say a thousand people broke the doors at the plant. It's really not that big of a deal if the people hit the streets in a big way.
Having said all that a big revolution is not likely to happen here. Instead we will see increased terrorism like Oklahoma City. Right now not enough people are agitated and the Rich and the powerful of this country are very careful to squeeze slowly and constantly bombard the population with the message that everything is cool. The first wave should be to agitate the masses into discomfort. Once you shake them out of their TV stupor then the corpies will might panic and apply overcorrection. Of course this will back fire by agitating even more sheep.
So the next revolution will kick off with mundane stuff like fertilizer, poisoned water supplies, nerve gas released on subways and skyscrapers and of course good old snipers. The west is already agitated beyond belief thanks to Radio Talk show hosts like Rush Limbaugh. A huge percentage of the states like nevada, montana, arizona, texas etc are already arming and training. All we gotta do is to nudge them over the edge. Believe me that's easy as these people believe the UN is poised to invade america and that the govt has weather control machines.
"Now for the hard question: How can you guarantee that what you end up with would be any better than what you started with? "
No guarantees. Sometimes you just gotta shake things up and hope for the best. If life is miserable enough then people will tear things down with the hope that what follows can not be worse. The trick is to make life more and more miserable for the sheep. Really your best best to destroy TV receiving satelites or bomb the cable companies. Once you stop the TV the sheep will panic like all hell (man wouldn't that be fun to watch!).