SOAP is nothing more then dressed up XML-RPC. It's actually so vague as to be almost non usable. It specifies almost nothing as a standard and lets vendors do whatever the hell they want. As a result MS will be generating SOAP envelopes that contain GUIDS which will be useless in unix machines. Not one single soap packet originating from an MS server or client and an MS app will be usable on a unix machine. Any MS generated SOAP packet will need a windows machine to process it.
So where are the API specs for native access to SQL server? I imagine if it was published the freetds or PHP folks would be thrilled. Instead they are trying to reverse engineer something that MS keeps changing.
More importantly will it pursue copy protection with the same vigor in all countries? Will MS work to prevent people in china, africa, south america, middle east or will it let the North american and European consumers subsidize the widespread piracy in third world countries.
How can MS justify it's anti piracy efforts in the US and Europe when it does nothing to preven piracy in other parts of the world.
MS is now running commercials stating that the SQL server database "plays nice with others". OTOH MS provides no technology to connect to SQL server from any other OS.
I can connect to an Oracle, DB/2, postgres, mysql, sybase server from any operating system using just about any language I can imagine but the only mechanism ms provides for SQL server are windows only.
MS is now running commercials stating that the SQL server database "plays nice with others". OTOH MS provides no technology to connect to SQL server from any other OS.
I can connect to an Oracle, DB/2, postgres, mysql, sybase server from any operating system using just about any language I can imagine but the only mechanism ms provides for SQL server are windows only.
What exactly does MS mean by "plays nice with others?". What does "interoperability" mean to you and to MS. Does MS plan on providing JDBC drivers for any of it's databases. Does it plan to support the freetds project?
MS is now running commercials stating that the SQL server database "plays nice with others". OTOH MS has no JDBC drivers, UNIX ODBC drivers or any other tool to connect to a SQL server from a unix environment. MS also does not support the Freetds project which attempts this. In fact MS is moving away from TDS which will render this project useless.
What exactly does MS mean by "plays nice with others?". What does "interoperability" mean to you and to MS. Does MS plan on providing JDBC drivers for any of it's databases.
That 99 percent is perfectly happy eathing whatever shit is shoved down their throats by MS. They don't give a crap about anything except maybe who won the best picture oscar.
Lucky for us they don't hand out at slashdot either. Except for a few paid astro turfers anyways.
Your typical MS luser of course would never be able accomplish such a thing so it will be a great way for MS to sabotage free software or any competing p2p protocol. Ms protocols get opened up by default and anybody else has to convince the dumb MS lusers try and change something they don't understand.
Whatever ad revenue coming from MS will probably not counteract the fact that the customer just left the store empty handed. It's more then just the profit margin it's also psychological. Presumably the customer came in to buy something. Your job when the customer walks in is to sell them what they want, make them linger around to see if something else catches their eye, and sell them the other thing too. The stores make money by upselling or selling related products. Telling your customer that they should wait another year to spend their money is just plain stupid.
I guess the fact that Microsoft wrote all of above is taken into account. I don't think people are blaming windows they are blaming Microsoft for being so irresponsible in the face of serious security flaws in it's software.
I've always wondred this myself. In the western states it's just about impossible to buy lamb that does not come from New Zealand yet sheep are all over the place. How much extra is it costing us to get lamb shipped from New Zealand and where is all that lamb from the west going?
Sure MS has the right to whatever kind of marketing they want. what nintendo is wisely pointing out is that the retailers are shooting themseleves in the foot by going along with this. Turning away your customers empty handed in the hope that they'll be back next year to buy another console is a stupid strategy.
I suspect that the retailers are being well compensated by MS for the lost sales but that would be hard to prove.
Hit a sore sport did I? No bush didn't even win florida. His cronies did everything they could to subvert the votes lucky for him his cronies were in charge of the state legislature, the governor ship, and the state election office.
"I don't know what the dominant wp and spreadsheet will be 10 years from now, but history says it won't be word and excel (though they mihgt be somethign else from ms). "
If history is any indication they won't be from MS. Lotus, Wordperfect, borland, ashton tate, dbase, etc. All these companies are either shells of their former selves or have been bought and salvaged. MS will probably see the same fate.
There once was a time when IBM owned 95% of the desktop market. There is a reason why steve ballmer and david allchin are scared shitless. Things can change in a hurry.
Once I was typing an outline in word and I hit the backspace key and then all the rest of the text I typed was in russian. I forget what I had to do to fix it but I don't use word anymore.
" It would be my best guess that Apple still had to write device drivers for MOST existing hardware. I haven't been keeping up on all the details lately, but it seems very reasonable to assume. "
Apple has tight control of the hardware so they don't have to support umpteen video cards just a handful.
"but since my first day I've gained a LOT of respect for their NT and 2000 OSes. I still prefer a Macintosh for home use, Windows NT/2000 for work, and *nix for geeking out. "
In that case you can chuck all of them out the window. MacOSX gives you the ease of use of a mac, with the power of Unix. You can geek out all you want and your mom can cruise the net. There is no real need for w2K anymore (unless of course you are vendor locked in. If that's the case you have my sympathies).
They paid 80 million for kerbango and then shelved it. They just wasted 80 million of their shareholders dollars and got nothing in return. Not my idea of smart.
Like you said "in theory". In real life you could not run SQLs designed on oracle on sql-server or vice versa.
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Jeez man why are you using linux? Go get a mac and install macosX. I guarantee you it will have a super slick and consistent UI. You will be very happy and hopefull you will shut up about it. Go make yourself happy instead of trying to make me unhappy. I don't want linux to succeed on the desktop on your terms I want it to succeed on it's own terms and that means not caving in to lusers.
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SOAP is nothing more then dressed up XML-RPC. It's actually so vague as to be almost non usable. It specifies almost nothing as a standard and lets vendors do whatever the hell they want. As a result MS will be generating SOAP envelopes that contain GUIDS which will be useless in unix machines. Not one single soap packet originating from an MS server or client and an MS app will be usable on a unix machine. Any MS generated SOAP packet will need a windows machine to process it.
There is nothing you can't do with a one button mouse that you can do with a two button mouse, if your have good enough programmers.
This is a great example.
So where are the API specs for native access to SQL server? I imagine if it was published the freetds or PHP folks would be thrilled. Instead they are trying to reverse engineer something that MS keeps changing.
More importantly will it pursue copy protection with the same vigor in all countries? Will MS work to prevent people in china, africa, south america, middle east or will it let the North american and European consumers subsidize the widespread piracy in third world countries.
How can MS justify it's anti piracy efforts in the US and Europe when it does nothing to preven piracy in other parts of the world.
MS is now running commercials stating that the SQL server database "plays nice with others". OTOH MS provides no technology to connect to SQL server from any other OS.
I can connect to an Oracle, DB/2, postgres, mysql, sybase server from any operating system using just about any language I can imagine but the only mechanism ms provides for SQL server are windows only.
Why not everybody else does? Why should I have to pay hundreds or thousands of dollars extra? Didn't I pay enough for sql server?
MS is now running commercials stating that the SQL server database "plays nice with others". OTOH MS provides no technology to connect to SQL server from any other OS.
I can connect to an Oracle, DB/2, postgres, mysql, sybase server from any operating system using just about any language I can imagine but the only mechanism ms provides for SQL server are windows only.
What exactly does MS mean by "plays nice with others?". What does "interoperability" mean to you and to MS. Does MS plan on providing JDBC drivers for any of it's databases. Does it plan to support the freetds project?
MS is now running commercials stating that the SQL server database "plays nice with others". OTOH MS has no JDBC drivers, UNIX ODBC drivers or any other tool to connect to a SQL server from a unix environment. MS also does not support the Freetds project which attempts this. In fact MS is moving away from TDS which will render this project useless.
What exactly does MS mean by "plays nice with others?". What does "interoperability" mean to you and to MS. Does MS plan on providing JDBC drivers for any of it's databases.
That 99 percent is perfectly happy eathing whatever shit is shoved down their throats by MS. They don't give a crap about anything except maybe who won the best picture oscar.
Lucky for us they don't hand out at slashdot either. Except for a few paid astro turfers anyways.
Your typical MS luser of course would never be able accomplish such a thing so it will be a great way for MS to sabotage free software or any competing p2p protocol. Ms protocols get opened up by default and anybody else has to convince the dumb MS lusers try and change something they don't understand.
Yes because nobody in MS has the imagination to actually think up new icons. They have to spend $50.00 like the rest of the world.
Whatever ad revenue coming from MS will probably not counteract the fact that the customer just left the store empty handed. It's more then just the profit margin it's also psychological. Presumably the customer came in to buy something. Your job when the customer walks in is to sell them what they want, make them linger around to see if something else catches their eye, and sell them the other thing too. The stores make money by upselling or selling related products. Telling your customer that they should wait another year to spend their money is just plain stupid.
I guess the fact that Microsoft wrote all of above is taken into account. I don't think people are blaming windows they are blaming Microsoft for being so irresponsible in the face of serious security flaws in it's software.
I've always wondred this myself. In the western states it's just about impossible to buy lamb that does not come from New Zealand yet sheep are all over the place. How much extra is it costing us to get lamb shipped from New Zealand and where is all that lamb from the west going?
Sure MS has the right to whatever kind of marketing they want. what nintendo is wisely pointing out is that the retailers are shooting themseleves in the foot by going along with this. Turning away your customers empty handed in the hope that they'll be back next year to buy another console is a stupid strategy.
I suspect that the retailers are being well compensated by MS for the lost sales but that would be hard to prove.
Hit a sore sport did I? No bush didn't even win florida. His cronies did everything they could to subvert the votes lucky for him his cronies were in charge of the state legislature, the governor ship, and the state election office.
Then you too could have been in the majority.
"I don't know what the dominant wp and spreadsheet will be 10 years from now, but history says it won't be word and excel (though they mihgt be somethign else from ms). "
If history is any indication they won't be from MS. Lotus, Wordperfect, borland, ashton tate, dbase, etc. All these companies are either shells of their former selves or have been bought and salvaged. MS will probably see the same fate.
There once was a time when IBM owned 95% of the desktop market. There is a reason why steve ballmer and david allchin are scared shitless. Things can change in a hurry.
Once I was typing an outline in word and I hit the backspace key and then all the rest of the text I typed was in russian. I forget what I had to do to fix it but I don't use word anymore.
" It would be my best guess that Apple still had to write device drivers for MOST existing hardware. I haven't been keeping up on all the details lately, but it seems very reasonable to assume. "
Apple has tight control of the hardware so they don't have to support umpteen video cards just a handful.
"but since my first day I've gained a LOT of respect for their NT and 2000 OSes. I still prefer a Macintosh for home use, Windows NT/2000 for work, and *nix for geeking out. "
In that case you can chuck all of them out the window. MacOSX gives you the ease of use of a mac, with the power of Unix. You can geek out all you want and your mom can cruise the net. There is no real need for w2K anymore (unless of course you are vendor locked in. If that's the case you have my sympathies).
They paid 80 million for kerbango and then shelved it. They just wasted 80 million of their shareholders dollars and got nothing in return. Not my idea of smart.
Like you said "in theory". In real life you could not run SQLs designed on oracle on sql-server or vice versa.
Jeez man why are you using linux? Go get a mac and install macosX. I guarantee you it will have a super slick and consistent UI. You will be very happy and hopefull you will shut up about it. Go make yourself happy instead of trying to make me unhappy. I don't want linux to succeed on the desktop on your terms I want it to succeed on it's own terms and that means not caving in to lusers.