It's called a union look into it. Corporations hate and fear unions like nothing else. If you really want to whack a corporation go unionize their employees. Be careful though they will whack you back realy hard if you try something like that.
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Man you are lucky if I open up three copies of access 97 my pIII 700 with 256 megs of ram just blows up. Windows 2K is not any more stable for me then win98 was.
A Dick and a Bush.. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
"If you dont want to send the email - CLICK NO FOR THE LOVE OF GOD!"
Apparenty you are another one of those stupid windows users. Listen up let me try to explain this to you.
I would never use MSN and therefore this has nothing to do with me actually clicking anything. I on the other hand may have stupid frinds like you who do not understand the internet and need dumbed down services like MSN. I do not under any circumstances want to receive unsolicited advertisements for MSN (or any other microsoft product) in my mailbox.
repeat after me ok? SPAM is unsolited advertising.
You got it?
A Dick and a Bush.. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
Oh I get it now. If I have to "take action" to send unsolicited email messages it's not spam. Has it ever occured to you that all spam starts with a human clicking a few buttons?
I guess not. You are probably too smart for something this obvious to occur to you.
A Dick and a Bush.. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
ooooh his brother owns a $100,000.00 house. He must be evil that Nader. I am gald he plays hardball his enemies do that's for sure. It's a wonder he is still alive.
A Dick and a Bush.. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
Why is it so outregeous? Are you claiming that the management of MS and the corporation that is MS are so ethically pure that they would never ever attempt to influence judges? They have history of slimy behaviour and it makes perfect sense to expect them to act slimy in the present and in the future. They have already poured millions into the election and have dubya in their back pocket. If they are attempting to influence politicians why not judges?
A Dick and a Bush.. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
lets say that you live in texas, nevada, montana or any of the wacko-rape-and-pillage western states and you voted for a democrat aren't you trhowing your vote away anyways? If you are going to throw your vote away anyway might as well vote nader and sleep better.
A Dick and a Bush.. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
If he got into office he would be killed in the first week. Corporations like MS wouldnt stand for it. Hey did you hear that the new encarta commercial seems to be disguised ad for dubya bush?
A Dick and a Bush.. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
Why would MS's upper management be distracted? In a well managed company (and you don't get where MS is without being well managed) the only people being "distracted" by the case should be MS's legal system and emplyees who have to testify."
I can only hope they are all made to testify again and on TV this time. The more people who see how slimy and unethical these guys are the more ms will suffer.
A Dick and a Bush.. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
Well so what? Who really cares if there is one less restaurant in the world. Lets take the other side let's say the restaurant was serving e-coli infected food are you going to jail the corporation? Are you going to jail the CEO or the shareholders? Corporations can kill people (firestone) and everybody involved gets off scott free. No personal responsibility at all.
Financial damages are nothing to an entity designed to generate more revenue it's just a temporary setback. If I killed 60 or a 100 people I would be put to death by the state if firestone the soul-less immortal being kills 60 to a 100 people it gets fined! Not only does it escape jail and death but the amount it gets fined is the equavalent of me getting fined $1000.00. Otherwise all the pretense about due process is just crap. What good is due process if it can never end up in a meaningful punishment for the guilty party. I say ff a corporation kills it ought to be killed. All the assets of the company ought to be seized and the shareholders ought to be left high and dry and ought to lose all their money. Maybe then they would act to make their corporation act ethically. It's like my dog If I can't control the behaviour of my dog I am liable and my dog will be put to death.
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But those human beings already have rights. Denying a corporation the right to free speech is not the same as denying the human beings who own or work for the corporation free speech. My dog does not have free speech rights so why should the corporation I work for? Granting soul-less immortal beings the same rights as humans was a profound mistake by the supreme court we ought to work very hard to get that bit of bad law revesed.
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It's bad law and ought to be reversed. When the founding fathers talked about right endowed by our creator they were not thinking of artificial soul-less immortal beings. Beings without souls should not have the same rights as beings with souls. This is why dogs don't have the same rights as you.
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Of course this would give America a HUGE advantage over other countries. The real question is this. If you and I can recognize that thiese backdoors give America an upper hand why are foreign governments still using Windows or office? I mean are they really that stupid? If I ran a country I would never use any software I didn't have the full source to and even then I would not use it until it was audited.
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If trademarks have to be vigorously defended lest they be invalidated can't the same be said of all intellectual property. Can I argue that since MS does not defend it's intellectual property in africa, asia etc that they don't care about it and in fact have abandoned it?
Where is the fairness in charging one set of people while letting millions of other people use it for free. Throw a couple of africans, chinese, or koreans in jail for a change and see how they react. Maybe we in America are just plain stupid to pay for stuff other people are getting for free. What would happen if we did the same thing. Really now realisticly speaking how many people could they jail if there was massive pirating like there is in china.
A Dick and a Bush.. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
Well I guess ideally the installer ought to do the minimum amount required to get the OS running with apt or dselect. Then you can go crazy installing whatever else you want or need. One CD rom contains the OS and another (set?) contains all the packages you could possibly want. I prefer this minimilistic approach to the install-just-about-everything method most other distros take.
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According to this study by IDC Linux has 4.1% of client Worldwide Client Operating Environment New License Shipment while Mac has 5%. In the server side linux has 24% second only to NT at 36% the mac is not even mentioned I presume it's less then 1%.
Keeping in mind that this only measures new license shipments (AKA boxes sold) it should be safe to presume that each box shipped is probably installed on multiple server and of course there are the uncounted downloads to consider too. My guess is that linux probably has around 10% of the desktop market.
IDC goes on to say IDC expects Microsoft's and Linux's shares of COE [client operating systems] shipments to grow by several points during the next five years and Apple to retain its current share, although its new COE (a public beta release is expected this fall) could pull up Apple if users approve of it.
Even if this research is full of crap and you have better numbers from some independent entity (please post the url) do you still maintain that having 7% of the desktop (your number) and 0% of the server market is "competing successfully" with MS?
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Unix is dead and doesn't even know it yet. VMS is dead and everybody knows it. AS/400 has what like a 1% market share. Right now it's battle between linux and NT for the vast majority of the server installs (small to medium). For the remaining 5% of large server installs Unix, AS/400 and mainframes can battle it out.
Why don't you study the market a bit you may come across as more intelligent.
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I don't know what planet you come from but on my planet MS has been kicking the shit out of apple for the last 5 or 10 years. It took a bailout from MS to keep apple from going under remember that? Remember when Bill G. and Steven J had had infamous conference call with the giant head of Bill hovering godlike over Steven? Do you remember the gasps from the audience when the compact with the devil was announced? MS did that only keep Apple alive and under it's control thereby giving the illusion of competition for the DOJ. As a result MS now owns a pert of apple and for every dollar apple makes MS makes a few cents. If it wasn't for MS apple would have died!. Apparently that's one part of history you are totally and absolutely ignorant of.
Where do you get off calling me an idiot when you define "successfully competing" as having 5 percent of the market. Right now linux has a bigger market share then the mac does. That's not me saying that go check the stats yourself.
Oh well I sould not be insulted when someone with so little grasp of reality calls me an idiot.
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I don't think it's immoral at all and I am glad that they gave it. I if I was to make moral judgement I would say that Apple was ethically and morally obligated to give back to the BSD community since they used their labors in the first place. Legally of course they were not obligated. To me Apple did what they were supposed to. Nothing wrong with that but I don't consider it some act of generosity either.
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I never said it wasn't great. I was just pointing out that it just wasn't all THAT generous. Sun, borland, netscape etc opened up code that originated from their own hands. Don't get me wrong I am not saying we should look a gift horse in the mouth I just wanted to point out that it wasnt all original stuff in the first place.
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You really think that apple can compete head to head with MS without the help of the open source community? Be couldn't and they got a great little OS. IBM coudn't and they had a great little OS and a HUGE amount of money. Novell coudn't even though they has huge installed base and customer loyalty. So far only SUN and the open source people have put up even a modicum of a fight.
Also keep in mind that Bill Gates makes money of off evey mac sold. Once this little tidbit becomes better known I doubt Apple will attract many linux or bsd developers.
A Dick and a Bush.. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
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A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
Apparenty you are another one of those stupid windows users. Listen up let me try to explain this to you.
I would never use MSN and therefore this has nothing to do with me actually clicking anything. I on the other hand may have stupid frinds like you who do not understand the internet and need dumbed down services like MSN. I do not under any circumstances want to receive unsolicited advertisements for MSN (or any other microsoft product) in my mailbox.
repeat after me ok? SPAM is unsolited advertising.
You got it?
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
I guess not. You are probably too smart for something this obvious to occur to you.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
I can only hope they are all made to testify again and on TV this time. The more people who see how slimy and unethical these guys are the more ms will suffer.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
Financial damages are nothing to an entity designed to generate more revenue it's just a temporary setback. If I killed 60 or a 100 people I would be put to death by the state if firestone the soul-less immortal being kills 60 to a 100 people it gets fined! Not only does it escape jail and death but the amount it gets fined is the equavalent of me getting fined $1000.00. Otherwise all the pretense about due process is just crap. What good is due process if it can never end up in a meaningful punishment for the guilty party. I say ff a corporation kills it ought to be killed. All the assets of the company ought to be seized and the shareholders ought to be left high and dry and ought to lose all their money. Maybe then they would act to make their corporation act ethically. It's like my dog If I can't control the behaviour of my dog I am liable and my dog will be put to death.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
Where is the fairness in charging one set of people while letting millions of other people use it for free. Throw a couple of africans, chinese, or koreans in jail for a change and see how they react. Maybe we in America are just plain stupid to pay for stuff other people are getting for free. What would happen if we did the same thing. Really now realisticly speaking how many people could they jail if there was massive pirating like there is in china.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
Keeping in mind that this only measures new license shipments (AKA boxes sold) it should be safe to presume that each box shipped is probably installed on multiple server and of course there are the uncounted downloads to consider too. My guess is that linux probably has around 10% of the desktop market.
IDC goes on to say IDC expects Microsoft's and Linux's shares of COE [client operating systems] shipments to grow by several points during the next five years and Apple to retain its current share, although its new COE (a public beta release is expected this fall) could pull up Apple if users approve of it.
Even if this research is full of crap and you have better numbers from some independent entity (please post the url) do you still maintain that having 7% of the desktop (your number) and 0% of the server market is "competing successfully" with MS?
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
Why don't you study the market a bit you may come across as more intelligent.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
Where do you get off calling me an idiot when you define "successfully competing" as having 5 percent of the market. Right now linux has a bigger market share then the mac does. That's not me saying that go check the stats yourself.
Oh well I sould not be insulted when someone with so little grasp of reality calls me an idiot.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
It's becoming obvious that most of the smart people have already left microsoft.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.
Also keep in mind that Bill Gates makes money of off evey mac sold. Once this little tidbit becomes better known I doubt Apple will attract many linux or bsd developers.
A Dick and a Bush .. You know somebody's gonna get screwed.