No it's your attitude that sucks. Nobody owes you anyting. Somebody gave you an awsome piece of software like gimp for nothing and all you can do bitch and moan and complain. Get off your ass and write some documentation, help other people like the Gimp authors helped you. Give something back instead of whining about you not getting enough stuff for free.
" No Jail; unfortunate that the jury didn't agree with you."
Once again this was an Albany Jury. I don't think you can equate them with the rest of the country. They don't jail cops in Albany.
"Firing an officer because he wrote the mayor a parking ticket?"
you seriously think killing an innocent man is the same as writing the mayor a parking ticket? You seriously think that killing an innocent man does not even warrant a firing?
You know what never mind. Your worship of the cops is too absolute. You think cops should never be punished not even the most minor way for their actions. I worry that so many americans think like you. The road to tyranny lies in that directions.
It's a matter of proportion, something most Americans seem not to understand. Kevin Mitnick would have been better off raping somebody. He would have spent less time in jail and he could still make a living. Does that seen just to you?
"Seriously... How much suffering would you have these guys go through to atone for an honest mistake?"
Jail.
"I know you think they intentionally murdered Diallo, but there was no evidence to that effect, so let's deal with the existing facts."
Even people who commit manslaughter go to jail. Drunk drivers who kill go to jail. People whose guns go off accidentally and kill somebody go to jail. Car thieves go to jail. Chronic check bouncers go to jail. These guys need to go to jail.
"What does an honest mistake at your job cost you?"
Not much but then again I didn't kill anybody. If the mistake is serious enough then I would think I would get fired. THESE GUYS DID NOT EVEN GET FIRED. Imagine if I had crashed my companies network so bad that it could not be brought back up for two days. What would happen to me? I would get fired that's what. People who fuck up get fired, people who commit crimes go to jail. Why should these guys be exempt?
"It's already cost these guys plenty... and they aren't done paying yet. how much more would satisfy you?"
Even though your post is offtopic I'll answer it anyway.
If an entity (a person or a business) breaks many laws they should be punished for all of them. If they get away with one or two then justice is not served.
And what is causing you not to eat? Apparently you have a computer, if you are starving then maybe you can sell your computer and buy some food.
If you are that poor there are always food stamps and welfare. There is a safety net in this country for people who are starving I urge you to take advantage of them. There is no need for anybody to starve in this country.
"It's no mystery to me why the officers were acquited... because I can see there from here. You, however, cannot or will not."
It's no mystery to me either. The trial was moved to Albany and Albany has a proud tradition of aquitting cops who kill people. All the major police brutality and murder cases that got moved to Albany ended up aquitals.
"not that I would blame any black man for running from the police" (I was wondering when you'd play the race card.
It's not the race card. It's simply an observation. Blacks are afraid of the police and it's for a good reason. Most white people are not afraid of the police becasue the police don't hassle white people like they do black people. It's not playing the race to card to point out facts.
"I find it odd that an ex-military person would state that there was "no stress" involved in that situation."
I will reiterate. Four people armed with glocks shooting at a man who is standing still is not stressful, it's target practise. According to the witness in the trial there were four shots followed by a pause and then more shots. I would guess that the first four shots probably dropped the guy, then they were shooting at a crumpled body on the ground, again not stressful at all. It's no more stress then shooting at a barrel. What possible stress could there be in shooting at a dead body?
"Mistakenly killing an unarmed man does not merit PCID counseling? "
Not in this case because I don't believe these guys killed "mistakenly". They executed some guy which means they were mentally ill beforehand. Yes they need therapy but only because they are homocidal sociopaths.
"I hope you don't hate those officers enough to wish that on them... their kids never asked for this."
No just that they be locked up behind bars and get the therapy they sorely need. We lock up other murders and even lock up people killed accidentally, the police are no different. Whether manslaughter or murder these guys took a life unjustly and they belong in jail.
"You clearly hate cops; I have no idea why, but it comes across loud and clear."
I know it's easy for you to belileve that but I don't. I have friends who are cops. I hate THOSE cops and I hate BAD COPS, and I hate MURDERS. I can make a distinction between a bad cop and a good cop why can't you?
" Cowards? Being afraid does not make you a coward. If you are not afraid in a gunfight, then you are dumber than I thought."
There was no gunfight. One guy was standing still while being shot at by four people.
"In the heat of battle, things happen in split seconds."
There was no battle. There is no war. The citizens are not the enemy. The police are not soldiers. One more time in case you missed it. The guy was standing there getting shot at by four cops. If that's what you call heat of the battle then there is no sense in talking to you.
"49 rounds seems excessive; but recall that there were 4 officers. "
That's 12 shots per officer! How many bullets does it take to kill a guy?
"I would recommend something in the field of Post-Critical Incident Stress Debriefing."
There was no stress. At least no more stress then shooting at a paper target. You keep forgetting that the guy was just standing there getting shot and then fell down and they were shooting at a dead body. How stressfull is that? Sure these guys paniced in a low stress situation which means they were cowards and inadequately trained. They don't need post stress counseling they need pre-stress training. If these guys are unable to cope with a lone black man outnumbered four to one then get them off the streets before they face real threats.
" but he ran from them when challenged, ignored orders to stop, and finally holed up in a doorway, going for an object in his pocket."
Now you are simply lying. He did not run from the police (not that I would blame any black man for running from the police). The police confronted him at his door. The police claim that they told him to freeze but none of the other "earwitnesses" back up the police. Nobody else heard the police say anything. He did not hole up in a doorway. he was either coming out of his house or going into his house.
"What would you have done? "
Well for one I would have lit the subject. That is what the police are trained to do. If they simply did not panic and did as they were trained an innocent person would not have been executed so brutally.
"You are clearly uneducated, and inclined to believe that four officers got together to murder an innnocent, unarmed man."
I guess if people disagree with you then they must be uneducated right? Well I am educated and I followed the case closely. I can tell you without hesitation that four cops murdered a black man and the only reason they are not in jail is because the trial was moved to albany which has a proud and racist history of aquitting cops of killing black people. One only hopes the families can get justice in civil court.
"Go pick up a weapon and defend other people, get yourself into a shooting situation, and then get second-guessed by a bunch of ignorant loudmouths like yourself. Somehow, I doubt you would have empathy even then..."
Not my job. At one time I was in the military. At that time it was my job to protect people and I took it very seriously. I trained hard and I learned to overcome panic and remain calm under stressfull situations. If it was me in that situation then the person would not have been executed. Why? Because I take my job seriously and train hard that's why.
These guys were the keystone cops. They could not shoot without falling down, they kept shooting at a dead body, they did not keep their wits around them enought to shine a flashlight.
Ooooh yes it's my attitude that's the problem. Not the idiots who are unable to figure out how to run djbdns. I alone am singularly responsible for keeping linux out of tons of IT departments all over the world. I have that much power!.
If a CIO is unable to make a decision based on technical merit and instead relies of word of mouth and stigma they are worthless piles of crap and should not use linux. A company who hires an addled CIO like that will surely fail and when they do fail they will blame it on linux.
Trust me you don't want idiot CIOs choosing linux, it will linux a bad name.
If you want to make money get an MBA. Code monkeys get paid less then MBAs, lawyers, doctors, and a whole host of other professions. In fact not only do those professions pay more they often work less hours then code monkeys. In my company programmers (especially MS programmers) are dime a dozen. As soon as times get tough they are the first ones to get canned. This is because there are millions of VB programmers that you can hire for 30 to 40K. Most MS programers get paid less then tenured teachers! If you want to make money in the tech world get an MBA, get your PMI certification, learn oracle, J2EE, SAP, smalltalk, unix system administration, DB/2 hell anything but VB or C#. There is no significant difference between a VB or a C# programmer and a burger fipper.
So you have a choice. In the end it's better to sleep with a clean conscience. Of course I realize that most people don't even have a conscience and are able sleep perfectly well while advancing the cause of evil.
So you are using at work only then right? I am pretty sure adobe does not let you install it on two PCs.
In this case your company paid for it and that's great, you can use it at work. For most people that's not the case. They have to steal it to use it at home or they have to part with hundreds of dollars.
obviously ethics are not being taught in your university. Which school do you go to anyway? I would be interested in knowing which school is cranking out graduates with no sense of ethics or morals.
Just one question. Did you pay for photoshop or did you steal it? Most people I know who use photoshop stole it. If we can prevent people from stealing software then we will make inroads into the desktop. Photoshop + office costs a thousand dollars. Out of the reach of most people who buy PCs.
yes they were panicked. Non panicked people don't pump 49 bullets into a mans body. Yes they were also cowards they admitted to it in court. They testified under oath that they were afraid.
Stupidity - "too stupid"
it goes without saying that a cop who fails to shine a light on a subject at night is stupid.
"What do YOU do when a guy is pulling out a gun? Hmmm? Give him the first shot as a freebie, confident in your ability to dodge the bullet? Yell "Freeze!!" while he's shooting at you? "
OK apparently you are way too ignorant to have a conversion with. Listen stupid go read about the case. The man did not pull out a gun, the man did not shoot. OK? No gun, no shooting. Did you get that? Should I repeat it for you. I will because you are too stupid to understand. No gun, no shooting. The cops shot an unarmed man.
"Ever tried to accurately and rapidly shoot with one hand, while holding a flashlight steady in the other? As I recall, these were plainclothes cops; many of them don't carry flashlights."
If the cops had the brains to shile a light on the man they would not have to shoot. The man was unarmed. If they talked to him they would not have to shoot. If they asked him to freeze or to put his hands on his head then they would not have to shoot. Just because you are a cop and have a gun that does not mean you shoot people when you see them.
"If these cops are so inept, and you are so proficient, then why don't you head on down to your local precinct and volunteer? "
Because the cops in my city are competent. They don't need my help. They don't panic and shoot people 49 times while falling down. They are well trained and not easliy scared. If I lived in the neigborhoods these cops patrolled I might consider helping them out but more likely I would move. I certainly would not want my wallet to confused for a weapon and killed because the cops were afraid of me.
"Most police departments are undermanned and short of money... Volunteer."
Yes but despite that they manage not to panic and shoot unarmed subjects. These cops were inept, stupid and cowards. They admitted to it in court.
Four armed cops afraid of a 22 year old man? Nobody is smart enough to pull out a flashlight and shine it on the subject? Nobody can turn on a spotlight? Not one cop yelled out "freeze" or "put your hand up". No instructions to lie down? Just open fire?
No cop testified that they were moving backwards. the cop was standing still and fell down while shooting. He was obviously a klutz.
these cops were either wanting to kill somebody or were inept, clumsy cowards who were too stupid to turn on a light and too easily panicked to handle stressful situations.
Imgaine if they had to actually face an armed and trained terrorist. Like I said I feel sorry for the poor folks they are supposed to protect. I certainly don't want cops who are dumb, clumsy and easaliy panicked and confused protecting me.
Why are you defending these morons anyway? Do you know them? None of the cops I know are that stupid.
What good is a gun going to you when some anthrax is released in your town? Are you going to shoot the little smallpox virii? How effective is your gun when "trains loaded with Chlorine, PCB's, Sulphuric Acid, HCL, and enough High Explosives to take out a medium sized" are rolling on the tracks?
In this day and age guns are pretty much useless against both terrorists and invading armies. If guns worked against tanks then the palestenians would not be living under israeli curfews.
cops are not normally the brightest bulbs in the bunch. I remember watching the Amadou Diallo trial and the cops were describing a scene out of the old keystone cops movies.
it's dark there is a black man in a vestibule which is dark. The man pulls out his wallet. A cop shouts GUN!. The cops start shooting. A COP FALLS DOWN!!!! (I guess the kickback knocked him down). The keep shooting putting 49 holes in his body.
It just boggles the mind.
have you ever seen a cop without a flashlight? A cop car without headlights or a spotlight? Not one cop thought to illuminate the man.
What kind of a person confuses a wallet for a gun?
What kind of cop falls down while shooting an unarmed man?
I feel sorry for any person who lives in NY and has to be defended by a bunch of bozos like that. At one point the defense attorney actually said "They were four young men who were frightened". Imagine four armed young cops being so frightened by a black guy they shoot him down.
Of course they were tried in albany and got off. Who in albany is going to convict white cops for killing black people?
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No it's your attitude that sucks. Nobody owes you anyting. Somebody gave you an awsome piece of software like gimp for nothing and all you can do bitch and moan and complain. Get off your ass and write some documentation, help other people like the Gimp authors helped you. Give something back instead of whining about you not getting enough stuff for free.
if the average time served was 5.5 years then some rapists spent less time in jail then Kevin did.
Convicted rapists are not prohibited by law from using computers and cell phones.
Holding sombody in jail for 6 years without a trial is not just.
His crimes are in no way shape or form serious when compared to rapists, drunk drivers and others who cause physical or actual economic damage.
" No Jail; unfortunate that the jury didn't agree with you."
Once again this was an Albany Jury. I don't think you can equate them with the rest of the country. They don't jail cops in Albany.
"Firing an officer because he wrote the mayor a parking ticket?"
you seriously think killing an innocent man is the same as writing the mayor a parking ticket? You seriously think that killing an innocent man does not even warrant a firing?
You know what never mind. Your worship of the cops is too absolute. You think cops should never be punished not even the most minor way for their actions. I worry that so many americans think like you. The road to tyranny lies in that directions.
It's a matter of proportion, something most Americans seem not to understand. Kevin Mitnick would have been better off raping somebody. He would have spent less time in jail and he could still make a living. Does that seen just to you?
"How much would be enough for you?"
Jail.
"Seriously... How much suffering would you have these guys go through to atone for an honest mistake?"
Jail.
"I know you think they intentionally murdered Diallo, but there was no evidence to that effect, so let's deal with the existing facts."
Even people who commit manslaughter go to jail. Drunk drivers who kill go to jail. People whose guns go off accidentally and kill somebody go to jail. Car thieves go to jail. Chronic check bouncers go to jail. These guys need to go to jail.
"What does an honest mistake at your job cost you?"
Not much but then again I didn't kill anybody. If the mistake is serious enough then I would think I would get fired. THESE GUYS DID NOT EVEN GET FIRED. Imagine if I had crashed my companies network so bad that it could not be brought back up for two days. What would happen to me? I would get fired that's what. People who fuck up get fired, people who commit crimes go to jail. Why should these guys be exempt?
"It's already cost these guys plenty... and they aren't done paying yet. how much more would satisfy you?"
Jail.
Even though your post is offtopic I'll answer it anyway.
If an entity (a person or a business) breaks many laws they should be punished for all of them. If they get away with one or two then justice is not served.
"I need to eat."
And what is causing you not to eat? Apparently you have a computer, if you are starving then maybe you can sell your computer and buy some food.
If you are that poor there are always food stamps and welfare. There is a safety net in this country for people who are starving I urge you to take advantage of them. There is no need for anybody to starve in this country.
"It's no mystery to me why the officers were acquited... because I can see there from here. You, however, cannot or will not."
It's no mystery to me either. The trial was moved to Albany and Albany has a proud tradition of aquitting cops who kill people. All the major police brutality and murder cases that got moved to Albany ended up aquitals.
"not that I would blame any black man for running from the police" (I was wondering when you'd play the race card.
It's not the race card. It's simply an observation. Blacks are afraid of the police and it's for a good reason. Most white people are not afraid of the police becasue the police don't hassle white people like they do black people. It's not playing the race to card to point out facts.
"I find it odd that an ex-military person would state that there was "no stress" involved in that situation."
I will reiterate. Four people armed with glocks shooting at a man who is standing still is not stressful, it's target practise. According to the witness in the trial there were four shots followed by a pause and then more shots. I would guess that the first four shots probably dropped the guy, then they were shooting at a crumpled body on the ground, again not stressful at all. It's no more stress then shooting at a barrel. What possible stress could there be in shooting at a dead body?
"Mistakenly killing an unarmed man does not merit PCID counseling? "
Not in this case because I don't believe these guys killed "mistakenly". They executed some guy which means they were mentally ill beforehand. Yes they need therapy but only because they are homocidal sociopaths.
"I hope you don't hate those officers enough to wish that on them... their kids never asked for this."
No just that they be locked up behind bars and get the therapy they sorely need. We lock up other murders and even lock up people killed accidentally, the police are no different. Whether manslaughter or murder these guys took a life unjustly and they belong in jail.
"You clearly hate cops; I have no idea why, but it comes across loud and clear."
I know it's easy for you to belileve that but I don't. I have friends who are cops. I hate THOSE cops and I hate BAD COPS, and I hate MURDERS. I can make a distinction between a bad cop and a good cop why can't you?
So NT was a mishmash of VMS and OS/2 and it took from 1988 to 1998 to get a first release with 200 engineers working on it.
I guess that explains a lot.
You mean VMS right?
" Cowards? Being afraid does not make you a coward. If you are not afraid in a gunfight, then you are dumber than I thought."
There was no gunfight. One guy was standing still while being shot at by four people.
"In the heat of battle, things happen in split seconds."
There was no battle. There is no war. The citizens are not the enemy. The police are not soldiers. One more time in case you missed it. The guy was standing there getting shot at by four cops. If that's what you call heat of the battle then there is no sense in talking to you.
"49 rounds seems excessive; but recall that there were 4 officers. "
That's 12 shots per officer! How many bullets does it take to kill a guy?
"I would recommend something in the field of Post-Critical Incident Stress Debriefing."
There was no stress. At least no more stress then shooting at a paper target. You keep forgetting that the guy was just standing there getting shot and then fell down and they were shooting at a dead body. How stressfull is that? Sure these guys paniced in a low stress situation which means they were cowards and inadequately trained. They don't need post stress counseling they need pre-stress training. If these guys are unable to cope with a lone black man outnumbered four to one then get them off the streets before they face real threats.
" but he ran from them when challenged, ignored orders to stop, and finally holed up in a doorway, going for an object in his pocket."
Now you are simply lying. He did not run from the police (not that I would blame any black man for running from the police). The police confronted him at his door. The police claim that they told him to freeze but none of the other "earwitnesses" back up the police. Nobody else heard the police say anything. He did not hole up in a doorway. he was either coming out of his house or going into his house.
"What would you have done? "
Well for one I would have lit the subject. That is what the police are trained to do. If they simply did not panic and did as they were trained an innocent person would not have been executed so brutally.
"You are clearly uneducated, and inclined to believe that four officers got together to murder an innnocent, unarmed man."
I guess if people disagree with you then they must be uneducated right? Well I am educated and I followed the case closely. I can tell you without hesitation that four cops murdered a black man and the only reason they are not in jail is because the trial was moved to albany which has a proud and racist history of aquitting cops of killing black people. One only hopes the families can get justice in civil court.
"Go pick up a weapon and defend other people, get yourself into a shooting situation, and then get second-guessed by a bunch of ignorant loudmouths like yourself. Somehow, I doubt you would have empathy even then..."
Not my job. At one time I was in the military. At that time it was my job to protect people and I took it very seriously. I trained hard and I learned to overcome panic and remain calm under stressfull situations. If it was me in that situation then the person would not have been executed. Why? Because I take my job seriously and train hard that's why.
These guys were the keystone cops. They could not shoot without falling down, they kept shooting at a dead body, they did not keep their wits around them enought to shine a flashlight.
Which means all of them had to reload
Well DUH!. If you could steal a BMW why would you buy a honda?
Ooooh yes it's my attitude that's the problem. Not the idiots who are unable to figure out how to run djbdns. I alone am singularly responsible for keeping linux out of tons of IT departments all over the world. I have that much power!.
If a CIO is unable to make a decision based on technical merit and instead relies of word of mouth and stigma they are worthless piles of crap and should not use linux. A company who hires an addled CIO like that will surely fail and when they do fail they will blame it on linux.
Trust me you don't want idiot CIOs choosing linux, it will linux a bad name.
If you want to make money get an MBA. Code monkeys get paid less then MBAs, lawyers, doctors, and a whole host of other professions. In fact not only do those professions pay more they often work less hours then code monkeys. In my company programmers (especially MS programmers) are dime a dozen. As soon as times get tough they are the first ones to get canned. This is because there are millions of VB programmers that you can hire for 30 to 40K. Most MS programers get paid less then tenured teachers! If you want to make money in the tech world get an MBA, get your PMI certification, learn oracle, J2EE, SAP, smalltalk, unix system administration, DB/2 hell anything but VB or C#. There is no significant difference between a VB or a C# programmer and a burger fipper.
So you have a choice. In the end it's better to sleep with a clean conscience. Of course I realize that most people don't even have a conscience and are able sleep perfectly well while advancing the cause of evil.
So you are using at work only then right? I am pretty sure adobe does not let you install it on two PCs.
In this case your company paid for it and that's great, you can use it at work. For most people that's not the case. They have to steal it to use it at home or they have to part with hundreds of dollars.
obviously ethics are not being taught in your university. Which school do you go to anyway? I would be interested in knowing which school is cranking out graduates with no sense of ethics or morals.
Just one question. Did you pay for photoshop or did you steal it? Most people I know who use photoshop stole it. If we can prevent people from stealing software then we will make inroads into the desktop. Photoshop + office costs a thousand dollars. Out of the reach of most people who buy PCs.
Premeditated murder - "wanting to kill sombody"
I said either premeditated murder or ineptiude
Incompetence - "too inept"
Yes. they were inept.
Cowardice - "clumsy cowards" "too easily panicked"
yes they were panicked. Non panicked people don't pump 49 bullets into a mans body. Yes they were also cowards they admitted to it in court. They testified under oath that they were afraid.
Stupidity - "too stupid"
it goes without saying that a cop who fails to shine a light on a subject at night is stupid.
"What do YOU do when a guy is pulling out a gun? Hmmm? Give him the first shot as a freebie, confident in your ability to dodge the bullet? Yell "Freeze!!" while he's shooting at you? "
OK apparently you are way too ignorant to have a conversion with. Listen stupid go read about the case. The man did not pull out a gun, the man did not shoot. OK? No gun, no shooting. Did you get that? Should I repeat it for you. I will because you are too stupid to understand. No gun, no shooting. The cops shot an unarmed man.
"Ever tried to accurately and rapidly shoot with one hand, while holding a flashlight steady in the other? As I recall, these were plainclothes cops; many of them don't carry flashlights."
If the cops had the brains to shile a light on the man they would not have to shoot. The man was unarmed. If they talked to him they would not have to shoot. If they asked him to freeze or to put his hands on his head then they would not have to shoot. Just because you are a cop and have a gun that does not mean you shoot people when you see them.
"If these cops are so inept, and you are so proficient, then why don't you head on down to your local precinct and volunteer? "
Because the cops in my city are competent. They don't need my help. They don't panic and shoot people 49 times while falling down. They are well trained and not easliy scared. If I lived in the neigborhoods these cops patrolled I might consider helping them out but more likely I would move. I certainly would not want my wallet to confused for a weapon and killed because the cops were afraid of me.
"Most police departments are undermanned and short of money... Volunteer."
Yes but despite that they manage not to panic and shoot unarmed subjects. These cops were inept, stupid and cowards. They admitted to it in court.
The MS trolls are too stupid to use qmail or djbdns. They are too stupid to use linux in the first place.
Oh give me a break will you.
Four armed cops afraid of a 22 year old man?
Nobody is smart enough to pull out a flashlight and shine it on the subject?
Nobody can turn on a spotlight?
Not one cop yelled out "freeze" or "put your hand up". No instructions to lie down? Just open fire?
No cop testified that they were moving backwards. the cop was standing still and fell down while shooting. He was obviously a klutz.
these cops were either wanting to kill somebody or were inept, clumsy cowards who were too stupid to turn on a light and too easily panicked to handle stressful situations.
Imgaine if they had to actually face an armed and trained terrorist. Like I said I feel sorry for the poor folks they are supposed to protect. I certainly don't want cops who are dumb, clumsy and easaliy panicked and confused protecting me.
Why are you defending these morons anyway? Do you know them? None of the cops I know are that stupid.
What good is a gun going to you when some anthrax is released in your town? Are you going to shoot the little smallpox virii? How effective is your gun when "trains loaded with Chlorine, PCB's, Sulphuric Acid, HCL, and enough High Explosives to take out a medium sized" are rolling on the tracks?
In this day and age guns are pretty much useless against both terrorists and invading armies. If guns worked against tanks then the palestenians would not be living under israeli curfews.
cops are not normally the brightest bulbs in the bunch. I remember watching the Amadou Diallo trial and the cops were describing a scene out of the old keystone cops movies.
it's dark there is a black man in a vestibule which is dark. The man pulls out his wallet. A cop shouts GUN!. The cops start shooting. A COP FALLS DOWN!!!! (I guess the kickback knocked him down). The keep shooting putting 49 holes in his body.
It just boggles the mind.
have you ever seen a cop without a flashlight? A cop car without headlights or a spotlight? Not one cop thought to illuminate the man.
What kind of a person confuses a wallet for a gun?
What kind of cop falls down while shooting an unarmed man?
I feel sorry for any person who lives in NY and has to be defended by a bunch of bozos like that. At one point the defense attorney actually said "They were four young men who were frightened". Imagine four armed young cops being so frightened by a black guy they shoot him down.
Of course they were tried in albany and got off. Who in albany is going to convict white cops for killing black people?
Guns don't kill people, it's those damned bullets!
it doesn't matter who you trust. The chinese govt does not trust MS.
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