"What are the four seasons?" is certainly not IQ test question, it is not knowledge test. Yes bias is certainly an issue when comparing IQ tests results from village in the jungle with not schools and industrialized community. They are not comparable. But it is not the case in the US or other single country. Most children have similar culture, not the same, but still understand the same things. Some may not speak English well, but you need to learn English first than, as you can't succeed in classroom without it anyway.
It is possible but not easy. Better ask yourself what you will do in the classroom afterwards when most students are at full 3 grades above your level intellectually? Will you be able too keep up or just drop out?
They use screening IQ tests, but they are used just for that, screening. Screened out students are still supposed to receive full time individual one-to-one test that may last hours. RAIS is getting more popular as it allows for student to stop after less failed answers and so takes less time, but is still full time test. If some district uses screening test for qualification without actual full time test, it sounds like abuse.
Because as some parents who were born in China and achieved something had told me, you don't play games while in school in China. Your parents tell you to to sit down and learn from 8 am till 10 pm, and it is considered normal in these societies. Or you don't get into the few top tier colleges in China and will be a failure. When your put more effort, it is more likely you will achieve more.
It works not just on intelligence tests. It works on intelligence itself, and tests just show results. Some naive people think that IQ is determined solely by genetics. It is not true.
Getting standard IQ test materials and memorizing the particular test to cheat is another different story.
It isn't how it works in my state and I believe in many other states or school districts. Here you need to pass standard full IQ test to get into program with at least one standard deviation above average*. You have no chance to pass it without active cheating involving parents if you are just average person. It is just impossible. Sure parents can prepare you for cheating, likely some do, but it would just results in drop out soon, so what is the point to do it.. *some districts may have lower tier programs with lower requirements, but you still need to pass test much above average. It may require parents initiative to request test, or sometimes short "screening" test is done for the whole class to screen out students for full test. It may require achievement tests/grades and of course this puts students with parents who have means and value education at advantage, but it is the same in any classroom. All information about requesting tests, deadlines, and what programs are available is public and anybody who cares can find it, it is not hidden somewhere.
I'm sorry to hear that your school district performed so badly/corrupt, effectively eliminating "gifted" as special needs program and harming these special needs students, but it is certainly not the case everywhere.
There is field of science called "psychology". It is isn't precise science like math, but they have very specific and more or less objective tests to measure what you are trying to describe as "no objective reference". Trying to deny it is like trying to deny Newton laws because you never learned Newton laws at school.
Actually it is not whites who have greater emphasis on education, but first generation immigrant Asian parents. As they get Americanized some generation or two later, they become like whites, just average.
Gifted education isn't some benefit. It is part of "special needs" as gifted students more likely to fail when put into class with lower intellectual age students, and often have more special needs. And it isn't determined just by genetics, but by early growing environment. If a child comes from background where education isn't valued, intellectual abilities are not challenged, or parents have no clue or time to get involved, it is less likely he will need or benefit from gifted education. It would be just a big psychological trauma for her/him to be thrown into environment where he/she will fail and feel inferior.
Now some dumb people would suggest that "gifted" tags would be distributed by some racial quotas as it is some benefit. Please get a clue first what is "gifted education". Different racial distribution here is consequence, not reason and not some bias.
It would mean that you would be only 50% electric than, assuming 2 drivers in family. Why pretend being some EV fundamentalist than at all? You can buy a Volt and it would be 80%-90% electric, unlimited range, and most likely drive on gas outside the city only, where smog is not an issue. And most people just don't have extra space in garage or want to decorate their front yard with old junk cars, that may be not a good choice for road trip because of their reliability anyway.
Just scale of bigger factory doesn't reduce battery price that much. At some time Musk was talking about 30% or so as a big achievement, and we don't know what exactly that 30% included. Large part of LiOn battery is cobalt price, which is dictated by market, not end factory. Price can only reduced a lot by research and new technology. Like silicon anodes getting into production now, nanotechnology, and so on.
They are making cars, not doing some fundamental battery technology research. As Musk has stated recently, he is not interested in research that much, "send him a working sample". This what you would expect from any automaker. As technology was not here until recently, all the great hype didn't helped to create EV suitable for mass market. It is either very expensive low production toy or just expensive short range city vehicle. You may ask whatever you want, but when it is impossible, it is impossible. As technology is getting here now, we will see more practical mass-market EVs from every automaker around. So far it doesn't even look that Tesla will be first with their Model 3.
Piercing corporate veil is certainly possible. And there is big difference between civil liability and criminal. You will not get out of jail for life if your boss will tell you to shoot competitor's boss and you do it. "I just followed orders" is excuse of most war criminals, and it never works.
Boss is not a slavemaster. If you are good, hard to replace, engineer, he will not piss you, he will want you to stay and work for the company instead of going to competitor. This is company culture thing, not just some boss or some engineer going nuts and forcing his way, they should have had consensus that it is acceptable. They still have an idea that NO emissions are just for nothing, some stupid invention of bureaucrats, or made to restrict them from US market, and that they can do anything as they "know better" and are more perfect persons.
It is true if your registration expires and you can't renew, or need to pass emission test, or need to sell the car, as I believe is the case at least in California. You just have junk on your hands which value is much less that it was before this scandal. Loss of value is minimum what needs to be repaid, plus much more.
Volkswagen is by far the longest-lasting brand on average and VW models have very few breakdowns, while American brands score well below average.
ADAC looks just like VW - bunch of crooks. Why it doesn't surprise me? http://www.thelocal.de/2014012... http://totalcarmagazine.com/fe... You can buy a lot of advertising in your own country and take market just on patriotism. It doesn't work in the rest of the world.
It is not bailout, it is loan to retool factories to make more fuel efficient vehicles. Maybe it helped to some extent, but I don't think it was possible for them use all that money just to pay their other loans or cover losses.
VW stopped making best cars maybe decades ago. They stagnated and can't compete in mass market worldwide anymore, Asian automakers left them in dust, while US automakers catching up somewhat. And this cheat is yet another proof of it, when you can't compete, you are getting desperate and start cheating as you don't want to go out of business. You are trying to sell German patriotism in America. It sells well in Germany, but not in the rest of the world. BMW and MB are still making decent cars in luxury part of the market, but it is small part of the market. Diesel cars are dead end, they become popular in Europe mostly because of more favorite taxation, but it is reversing.
Sure, China just waits for more toxic smog to be generated by your "wonders of superior German engineering";) If you never went to China, just look at the pictures of their big cities. You can't see anything through smog, upper class professionals just move out because of that. And they are starting to realize that it is a big problem and starting to deal with it. And you will not be fighting in courts and negotiating fines in a country ruled by Communist party dictatorship, party boss will tell you what to do and you will do it.
Automaker companies have some legal immunity related to accident liability. Not full immunity, but it is not easy to prove criminal case. There are thousands of different issues reported in big company, and you can always work on improving something. Cheating on EPA test is completely different story just from legal point of view. As from moral point of view, diesel exhaust and photochemical smog cause cancer, and many people die too, slow and painful way, even if you can't count deaths precisely.
It contradicts original road test report, that was about testing 2 VW cars and BMW X3. I think it was reported that BMW X3 didn't exceeded norms unlike VW cars. As X3 has urea tank and actually uses urea according to owners, I see no reason why it should not pass Euro tests overall, at least not to exceed them something like 11 times, which would indicate urea is not used or something is totally off. Sure if you take it to max acceleration or some other special condition, it may exceed NO emission 11 times for short moment. But not for regular driving.
It isn't always the case. You card information may leak (ok, not a big deal, your bank will give you new card), you may get fake medication and never know it, concentration may be lower than required. It is just that, gray market. Sometimes it works, sometimes you get burned. Technically it isn't legal but US Customs allows mailing up to few months medication supply as long as it is not controlled substance. I don't know if they would allow the same when driving/flying.
"Not interested" means the proposal had too many hooks attached or nothing was valuable in that Tesla protocol.
Really? Nothing interesting in the only charging standard that actually is doing 150kW charging _right_ _now_? Sure.
1. It is not a standard, it is "standard". 2. It is nothing new - 250kW charger was demonstrated in last decade and Tesla's one can't even reach that. It is invention of a wheel with a lot of hype, just Apple's style. 3. It is worthless to new cars like this Porsche concept.
Frankly this is getting repetitive. I already know all these talking points very well and not getting any new information from this discussion.
If Tesla really wants to open it, it should 1) publish it
Telsa pledged to open the standard for anyone interested.
Sure, I'm interested;) How about taking 5 minutes and posting internal company document online? How about actually opening charging network to every individual willing to pay per-use, just like any gas station does? Pledges are worthless when your actions are opposite.
2) allow non-discriminatory third party EV access to their network based on reasonable per-use fee to recoup costs. Otherwise it is just lip service to look good and pump price of shares for next raise of capital.
Nope. This requirement has NOTHING to do with standards - it's perfectly possible to use open standards for private networks. For example, Nissan's dealer ChADeMO network is open for Nissan only.
This is obviously not true. Many Tesla owners charge at Nissan dealerships just fine. Sure some dealers may be nuts and refuse anybody but their own customers. Most don't make issue if somebody else asks for charge.
The point is that Tesla makes its network available to their customers only, it is useless for non-Tesla EVs. At the same time Tesla uses other networks. Not so nice word about would be leaching.
Except that there are NO OTHER CARS that can fully utilize Tesla superchargers. None. Chevy Bolt will be limited to 85kW and LEAFs are limited to a measly 40kW. If the situation were different with lots of cars capable of utilizing high-power charging then I might be agreeing with you.
So what? I can read this talking point in every second post from Tesla advocates but it makes zero sense. If they don't utilize full power, Tesla expense for electricity will be less. Tesla's own cars don't utilize full power for most of the charging time, they can only take full power for the short moment when battery is fully discharged. Why should you be concerned about that? People invented such thing as "money" thousands years ago. You pay at gas station to take your fuel, gas station is happy to provide it and don't invent excuses about how you are going utilize fuel in your car. Charging stations usually charge by time spent. It is none of their business to tell customer how to utilize that time. All this only makes perfect sense if you want to introduce fragmentation into charging infrastructure. Then you make proprietary network and don't allow anybody other than your high paying customers. Maybe make some "feel good" PR statements, they don't cost much. Sure competitors are not stupid and may follow your lead and do the same, then you'll get slowdown of EV adoption for a long time and have your niche market remain niche. It may take very long time until Justice Department come up to charging infrastructure with some AT&T style antitrust suite to break last-mile monopoly.
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"What are the four seasons?" is certainly not IQ test question, it is not knowledge test. Yes bias is certainly an issue when comparing IQ tests results from village in the jungle with not schools and industrialized community. They are not comparable. But it is not the case in the US or other single country. Most children have similar culture, not the same, but still understand the same things. Some may not speak English well, but you need to learn English first than, as you can't succeed in classroom without it anyway.
It is possible but not easy. Better ask yourself what you will do in the classroom afterwards when most students are at full 3 grades above your level intellectually? Will you be able too keep up or just drop out?
They use screening IQ tests, but they are used just for that, screening. Screened out students are still supposed to receive full time individual one-to-one test that may last hours. RAIS is getting more popular as it allows for student to stop after less failed answers and so takes less time, but is still full time test.
If some district uses screening test for qualification without actual full time test, it sounds like abuse.
Because as some parents who were born in China and achieved something had told me, you don't play games while in school in China. Your parents tell you to to sit down and learn from 8 am till 10 pm, and it is considered normal in these societies. Or you don't get into the few top tier colleges in China and will be a failure. When your put more effort, it is more likely you will achieve more.
It works not just on intelligence tests. It works on intelligence itself, and tests just show results. Some naive people think that IQ is determined solely by genetics. It is not true.
Getting standard IQ test materials and memorizing the particular test to cheat is another different story.
It isn't how it works in my state and I believe in many other states or school districts.
Here you need to pass standard full IQ test to get into program with at least one standard deviation above average*. You have no chance to pass it without active cheating involving parents if you are just average person. It is just impossible. Sure parents can prepare you for cheating, likely some do, but it would just results in drop out soon, so what is the point to do it..
*some districts may have lower tier programs with lower requirements, but you still need to pass test much above average.
It may require parents initiative to request test, or sometimes short "screening" test is done for the whole class to screen out students for full test. It may require achievement tests/grades and of course this puts students with parents who have means and value education at advantage, but it is the same in any classroom. All information about requesting tests, deadlines, and what programs are available is public and anybody who cares can find it, it is not hidden somewhere.
I'm sorry to hear that your school district performed so badly/corrupt, effectively eliminating "gifted" as special needs program and harming these special needs students, but it is certainly not the case everywhere.
There is field of science called "psychology". It is isn't precise science like math, but they have very specific and more or less objective tests to measure what you are trying to describe as "no objective reference". Trying to deny it is like trying to deny Newton laws because you never learned Newton laws at school.
It is just not true.
Actually it is not whites who have greater emphasis on education, but first generation immigrant Asian parents. As they get Americanized some generation or two later, they become like whites, just average.
Gifted education isn't some benefit. It is part of "special needs" as gifted students more likely to fail when put into class with lower intellectual age students, and often have more special needs. And it isn't determined just by genetics, but by early growing environment. If a child comes from background where education isn't valued, intellectual abilities are not challenged, or parents have no clue or time to get involved, it is less likely he will need or benefit from gifted education. It would be just a big psychological trauma for her/him to be thrown into environment where he/she will fail and feel inferior.
Now some dumb people would suggest that "gifted" tags would be distributed by some racial quotas as it is some benefit. Please get a clue first what is "gifted education". Different racial distribution here is consequence, not reason and not some bias.
It would mean that you would be only 50% electric than, assuming 2 drivers in family. Why pretend being some EV fundamentalist than at all? You can buy a Volt and it would be 80%-90% electric, unlimited range, and most likely drive on gas outside the city only, where smog is not an issue. And most people just don't have extra space in garage or want to decorate their front yard with old junk cars, that may be not a good choice for road trip because of their reliability anyway.
Just scale of bigger factory doesn't reduce battery price that much. At some time Musk was talking about 30% or so as a big achievement, and we don't know what exactly that 30% included. Large part of LiOn battery is cobalt price, which is dictated by market, not end factory.
Price can only reduced a lot by research and new technology. Like silicon anodes getting into production now, nanotechnology, and so on.
They are making cars, not doing some fundamental battery technology research. As Musk has stated recently, he is not interested in research that much, "send him a working sample". This what you would expect from any automaker. As technology was not here until recently, all the great hype didn't helped to create EV suitable for mass market. It is either very expensive low production toy or just expensive short range city vehicle. You may ask whatever you want, but when it is impossible, it is impossible.
As technology is getting here now, we will see more practical mass-market EVs from every automaker around. So far it doesn't even look that Tesla will be first with their Model 3.
Piercing corporate veil is certainly possible. And there is big difference between civil liability and criminal. You will not get out of jail for life if your boss will tell you to shoot competitor's boss and you do it. "I just followed orders" is excuse of most war criminals, and it never works.
Boss is not a slavemaster. If you are good, hard to replace, engineer, he will not piss you, he will want you to stay and work for the company instead of going to competitor.
This is company culture thing, not just some boss or some engineer going nuts and forcing his way, they should have had consensus that it is acceptable. They still have an idea that NO emissions are just for nothing, some stupid invention of bureaucrats, or made to restrict them from US market, and that they can do anything as they "know better" and are more perfect persons.
It is true if your registration expires and you can't renew, or need to pass emission test, or need to sell the car, as I believe is the case at least in California. You just have junk on your hands which value is much less that it was before this scandal. Loss of value is minimum what needs to be repaid, plus much more.
Volkswagen is by far the longest-lasting brand on average and VW models have very few breakdowns, while American brands score well below average.
ADAC looks just like VW - bunch of crooks. Why it doesn't surprise me?
http://www.thelocal.de/2014012...
http://totalcarmagazine.com/fe...
You can buy a lot of advertising in your own country and take market just on patriotism. It doesn't work in the rest of the world.
It is not bailout, it is loan to retool factories to make more fuel efficient vehicles. Maybe it helped to some extent, but I don't think it was possible for them use all that money just to pay their other loans or cover losses.
VW stopped making best cars maybe decades ago. They stagnated and can't compete in mass market worldwide anymore, Asian automakers left them in dust, while US automakers catching up somewhat. And this cheat is yet another proof of it, when you can't compete, you are getting desperate and start cheating as you don't want to go out of business. You are trying to sell German patriotism in America. It sells well in Germany, but not in the rest of the world.
BMW and MB are still making decent cars in luxury part of the market, but it is small part of the market. Diesel cars are dead end, they become popular in Europe mostly because of more favorite taxation, but it is reversing.
Sure, China just waits for more toxic smog to be generated by your "wonders of superior German engineering" ;) If you never went to China, just look at the pictures of their big cities. You can't see anything through smog, upper class professionals just move out because of that. And they are starting to realize that it is a big problem and starting to deal with it. And you will not be fighting in courts and negotiating fines in a country ruled by Communist party dictatorship, party boss will tell you what to do and you will do it.
Automaker companies have some legal immunity related to accident liability. Not full immunity, but it is not easy to prove criminal case. There are thousands of different issues reported in big company, and you can always work on improving something.
Cheating on EPA test is completely different story just from legal point of view. As from moral point of view, diesel exhaust and photochemical smog cause cancer, and many people die too, slow and painful way, even if you can't count deaths precisely.
It contradicts original road test report, that was about testing 2 VW cars and BMW X3. I think it was reported that BMW X3 didn't exceeded norms unlike VW cars. As X3 has urea tank and actually uses urea according to owners, I see no reason why it should not pass Euro tests overall, at least not to exceed them something like 11 times, which would indicate urea is not used or something is totally off. Sure if you take it to max acceleration or some other special condition, it may exceed NO emission 11 times for short moment. But not for regular driving.
If you get confirmation to do something obviously criminal, it is not out jail confirmation. It is shared cell confirmation ;)
It isn't always the case. You card information may leak (ok, not a big deal, your bank will give you new card), you may get fake medication and never know it, concentration may be lower than required. It is just that, gray market. Sometimes it works, sometimes you get burned. Technically it isn't legal but US Customs allows mailing up to few months medication supply as long as it is not controlled substance. I don't know if they would allow the same when driving/flying.
"Not interested" means the proposal had too many hooks attached or nothing was valuable in that Tesla protocol.
Really? Nothing interesting in the only charging standard that actually is doing 150kW charging _right_ _now_? Sure.
1. It is not a standard, it is "standard".
2. It is nothing new - 250kW charger was demonstrated in last decade and Tesla's one can't even reach that. It is invention of a wheel with a lot of hype, just Apple's style.
3. It is worthless to new cars like this Porsche concept.
Frankly this is getting repetitive. I already know all these talking points very well and not getting any new information from this discussion.
If Tesla really wants to open it, it should 1) publish it
Telsa pledged to open the standard for anyone interested.
Sure, I'm interested ;) How about taking 5 minutes and posting internal company document online? How about actually opening charging network to every individual willing to pay per-use, just like any gas station does? Pledges are worthless when your actions are opposite.
2) allow non-discriminatory third party EV access to their network based on reasonable per-use fee to recoup costs. Otherwise it is just lip service to look good and pump price of shares for next raise of capital.
Nope. This requirement has NOTHING to do with standards - it's perfectly possible to use open standards for private networks. For example, Nissan's dealer ChADeMO network is open for Nissan only.
This is obviously not true. Many Tesla owners charge at Nissan dealerships just fine. Sure some dealers may be nuts and refuse anybody but their own customers. Most don't make issue if somebody else asks for charge.
The point is that Tesla makes its network available to their customers only, it is useless for non-Tesla EVs. At the same time Tesla uses other networks. Not so nice word about would be leaching.
Except that there are NO OTHER CARS that can fully utilize Tesla superchargers. None. Chevy Bolt will be limited to 85kW and LEAFs are limited to a measly 40kW. If the situation were different with lots of cars capable of utilizing high-power charging then I might be agreeing with you.
So what? I can read this talking point in every second post from Tesla advocates but it makes zero sense. If they don't utilize full power, Tesla expense for electricity will be less. Tesla's own cars don't utilize full power for most of the charging time, they can only take full power for the short moment when battery is fully discharged. Why should you be concerned about that? People invented such thing as "money" thousands years ago. You pay at gas station to take your fuel, gas station is happy to provide it and don't invent excuses about how you are going utilize fuel in your car. Charging stations usually charge by time spent. It is none of their business to tell customer how to utilize that time.
All this only makes perfect sense if you want to introduce fragmentation into charging infrastructure. Then you make proprietary network and don't allow anybody other than your high paying customers. Maybe make some "feel good" PR statements, they don't cost much. Sure competitors are not stupid and may follow your lead and do the same, then you'll get slowdown of EV adoption for a long time and have your niche market remain niche. It may take very long time until Justice Department come up to charging infrastructure with some AT&T style antitrust suite to break last-mile monopoly.