A contributing factor to Chinese online addiction may be the situation with women. They now have a stastistically significant difference between number of women and number of men. Also the cultural shifts in the last 40 years or so have resulted in everything a chinese man is taught about women is wrong. Those that don't adapt or have some advantage will not get a girl friend.
In some villages your hopes of getting married withuot haveing a sister is 0. The families set up marriges of their children to each other or some arcane arrangement similiar to that.
This leaves a non trivial minority in a position where the only compainionship they can get has to be paid for. Its enough to drive anyone to addictions.
It seems that Diablo, the story goes, was originally turnbased! Some engineer had the kooky idea of converting the game over to be realtime, which noone he worked with was to fired up about. So, he did it on the side as a pet project. When finished, he checked it in and had everyone give it a shot. They of course realized they had a winner on their hands...
I doubt it. The code difference between a turn based and a real time game is non-trivail. In fact I doubt 1 person working in their sparetime could do it. As well Blizzard has never made a turn based game, the desing for diablo is so different from a turn based one. If it did happen it would have had to be exstremely early in the dev proccess.
Can't you see the difference between something that is spread by standing in the same room verses something that requires a deliberate act that isn't neccesarily part of going into the general public?
One is an imediete threat based on living participating in government run/mandated activities like going to school. The other is a threat if you chose to do an activity.
Unless the hidden position here is that the governemnt should be resoncible for people who decide to do something on their own. But in that case, requiring a person to get monthly checkups and presenting a waivier of liability that another person needs to sign before acting on that decision would have the same effect. Actualy it would have even greater results. It would eliminate the transmision of quite a few other diseases too. Why aren't we pushing for this as an requirment to attend school? Maybe because the government has no right in this area! Same with gardasil!
But how do we know this gardasil isn't being pushed just to give the government that kind of power? I mean there is little difference in requiring monthly checkups and a vaccine. except how many times a person see the doctor.
You are aware breathing is an optional activity. Ceasing it willprevent all kinds of ailments. Sex is also anothe rbasic human function and it's choice is compelled by similiar but weaker compulsion.
The key difference between monthly checkups and a vaccine is cost. $90 * 12 months * 60 adult years = $64 800 while vaccine is now $400 soon to be less. Your creeping into tin foil hat terroritory. If they needed to assert control over us there are more efficient and meanigful ways but from your arguement none of the things you pointed out except "optional sex" is meaningful to you. The rest of your arguement is random consiracy suggestions and completely idiotic.
Remember that falling on a rusty nail is preventable or being exposed to hep b is preventable. All you have to do is stay away from any rusty nails and never eat anywhere but home. Both are as easy as abstaining from sex. All three are exstremely difficult. Tetnus and Hep B are vacinated for. So HPV is also a decent idea to vacinate for. I'm sure the crux of your opposition is based on the idea that girls shouldn't be having sex until they find a nice white anglo saxon protistant to marry and then only after the wedding and for the purposes of reproduction but by all statistics they'll likely have sex with the first guy who strikes their fancy and with about seven others on avaerage. They'll lose it by 14 or so. None of you upbringing will matter since the majority of the time biologigy trumps parental FUD.
This vaccine has nothing at all to do with attending public school. It's not an airborne disease, and so isn't something you could possible contract at school. The idea that states are requiring it for students is overstepping their authority, and corruption, in the most blatant terms.
Never been to high school? Hep B is vacinated for and it too is not air born. Neither is tetanus or actually about 25% of everything we vacinate for. You logic is distorted. As for sex, the vast majority of people have it by the time their in high school. Deal with that fact instead of burrying your head int he sand.
However the plan is to vacinate via the high school vacinations. Which brings that number down significantly to only those reciving one of their high school immunizations. 11-18. Which is around 20 mil. You do use a lot of bad assuptions. Consider that it's estimated 50% of adult humans have HPV. IT means the only way to be sure your vaccine works is to administer it early. Meaning 11-18 and most likely before 16 since most girls have had sex before then. This reduces it further to about 8 mil at any given time. Roughly 4000 women a year will die from cervical cancer which is strongly liked to HPV. 10,000 yearly will be diagnosed. Hysterectomy is the ussual treatment for Microinvasive cervical cancer. That costs about $9000. You can also use radio therapy on less advanced forms at about 2,000 a shot. Assuming those 4000 that died tried hysterectomies we're facing 4,000 * $9000 + 6,000 * $2000 = $48 000 000 for treatment of new patients. The thing with vacination is it will get cheaper as you buy more and the formula ages, and as the immunization rate climbs the infection rate will decrease sharply at some point. So at some point only 12 or 13 year olds will need the vacination and people face one less cancer.
The initial cost if you innoculate the entire target group is 8 bil with a reoccuring of 1 bil but it will decline rapidly on economies of scale.
I looks like we realy do need to put as lot of effort into education - the reaction above is a common grouping of irrelevant factors into a complaint. A combination of radical anti-intellectual "Christian" groups that call themselves conservative and new age anti-intellectuals have really messed up attitudes of many and the media looking for a knee jerk reaction story in paticular.
I agree whole heartidly. I get massive head aches from eye rolling from both my fundy friends and the vegan, all natural, science is evil dips too.
We're talking about a HUGE expense ($400 a pop) x 100 million woman initially (that fit in to the age group in the US) -- then about $400 a pop x 2 million a year for all 11 year old girls. Compare that to the cost of making a $10-$20 pap available to the underserved and high-risk woman who would benefit from it.
Wow a country of 300 million people have 100 million virgin girls. I should head south more often. You may want to get your census information from a source other then "out of my own ass."
There's probably no FDA approval for men, because Merck didn't submit any data for men, which they didn't do, because they didn't do studies on men. They didn't do studies on men, because it wasn't as cost-effective, because there are more straight women in the world than there are gay men.
You do realize that being gay is not a prequisite for being a carrier.
I work at a Telecom in a lowly sales desk position. Recently my telecome started offering porn on cell phones. We then got a slew of people calling in (who often didn't have service with us) complaining about this because some article in a right wing paper mentioned it. I'd bring up things like porn being available on our major competators TV service. The internet being over run with it. And the fact that you had to jump through so many hoops to get it that it's more secure then your TV service (a friend of my tried to get it on a lark. She was denied because she hadn't provided a ID with a birthday on her account and had no valid credit cards).
This siutation is similiar, the religious get their panties all in a knot over nothing and will often be hippocrites and fools about a subject. They simply borrow the opinion of those who evangelize to them. Often without knowing it makes appear foolish and act like hippocrites.
Did you know suicide also prevent 100% of new STD infections after the treatment. But of course it's not suitable for everyone as the vast majority of human beings will not commit to that solution. Ditto with abstinence. I betcha that if you have a daughter and she's 16, she's had sex. I find the religious family ones to be the ones who most readily lose it and know least about how to protect themselves. Most of the time, the more you forbid something, the more likely it'll happen. Just a note, I've had 5 virgins in my life. all of them catholic or from an anti-sex family (1 was traditional chinese). It doesn't take much convincing to get them to drop their drawers and all of the junk their parent taught them failed against my nerd physique and irresistible squinty gamers eyes.
They are nto forcing anyone in this case. You can opt out. Although in the interest of public health they will force you to do many things. For instance if you had a super bug TB strain in you the powers that be will insist you get treatment for it. They will even arrest you. The rest of us think thats alright because you can keep that TB to yourself.
I don't like this because it forces young girls to get vaccinated against a disease that they can prevent by simply not having sex. It's not like measles, which can be transmitted innocently and anonymously. You have to actually have sex to get the virus. Along with this, it will cost taxpayers $400 per junior high school girl. That's gotta be millions of dollars in taxes in each state. You do realize that the vast majority of teen girls lose their virginity by 16 don't you? The current average age is 14 (which is close to the traditional pre 1900 average age). You can make an arguement that we shouldn't fund any vaccinations at all because simply not enrolling your children into school can prevent half of the diseases like measels ect. Sex is normal part of "growing up". And since we put of getting married 15 years longer then we used to (late 20's vs early teens in the past), it's not realistic to expect anyone to wait. No matter what your morals tell you, sex is not some crazied monster out to kill your children. Despite your best efforts your daughter will have sex, and perhaps this little vaccine will lessen the likelyhood that she will suffer from cancer 50 years down the road. I don't know enough about the vaccine to say but your statement is stunningly ignorant.
The US inteferes very rarely in "genocide". mostly it's the UN that sends troops. The US isn't out there to prevent genocide or dethrone dictators. It's fairly well known for supporting dicators (Sadam up until the first iraq war, saudi arabias rulign princes, egypt, most of south america, some of the african dictators). As for genocide. The Us is fairly genocide neutral. It neither goes out of it's way to prevent it in the world nor does it go out of it's way to fund it.
Difficulty? WoW is made for casual gamers. I've gotten an alt to level sixty (pre BoC) in less than 96 hours played time.
Community? In EQ, you were forced to group, unless you played one of a handful of classes. Being forced to interact with other people built up a sense of community. All I saw in WoW were random names that happened to be going the same places I was.
Competition? The prevalence of instancing in WoW basically destroyed the idea of competition. All that you have is who is first to beat new content. There's no more racing for big named mobs, which was part of the fun of EQ, imo.
To you, that was what was right about EQ. To me that was what was wrong about EQ. I want to decide when to play my games. I don't want it decided for me. For EQ for all the high level mobs and being first ect.. dictates you sink all free time into it. It's not even all that compelling or fun. The socialization was cool but sometimes you want just log in, finish a few quest and do some fishing ect.. without the necessity to grou into a 40 man raid to find your fishing hole. But to each their own. I prefer WOW mostly. Wow is not made for casual players. it's made for medium hardcore ones while EQ is made for heavy hardcore ones.
For electronics, fixing them can be more expensive then fabing a new one depending ont he problem. Also once fixed electronics tend to fail more often after. So a machine that has been fixed once tends ot break more often then a machine that has never been fixed at all of the same age. So for them given these two facts they'd rather just send you a new one.
Anecdote: My Sony cybershot retailed for $250 when I bought it. Last year it broke and it cost me $100 ot fix it. I debated if I wanted to fix it or not since a new one is about $250. I eventually paid to fix it. It came back with some odd new quirks. Not owrht it. I made the wrong decision.
Seriously... you'd think everyone has issues with the things. My release date 360 still runs just as well as it did since it arrived.
Get over the anti-Microsoft high-horse, guys. The console is perfectly stable for those of us who take the time to clean up around the thing an don't stuff it into an air-tight hole somewhere.
You anecdote is not indicitive of all 360's just as my launch PS2 is not indicative of other PS2's fromt hat time. My PS2 has been running with heavy use for almost 6 years. It's only now starting to have a bit of disc reading slow down. Audio sometimes takes a half a second to start up in dialogue on MGS3. Aside from that no problems. But a moderate percentage of the launch ps2's had the disc read error of death. Just because it's fine for me or you doesn't mean other units dont' have problems.
And there are exactly how many of those? I think it's a huge logical cop out when you deflect criticism of your "thing" by assumign all criticism is simply fanboys. Also given how bland the reception to the ps3 was I doubt there are actually all that many fanboys.
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A contributing factor to Chinese online addiction may be the situation with women. They now have a stastistically significant difference between number of women and number of men. Also the cultural shifts in the last 40 years or so have resulted in everything a chinese man is taught about women is wrong. Those that don't adapt or have some advantage will not get a girl friend.
In some villages your hopes of getting married withuot haveing a sister is 0. The families set up marriges of their children to each other or some arcane arrangement similiar to that.
This leaves a non trivial minority in a position where the only compainionship they can get has to be paid for. Its enough to drive anyone to addictions.
Spending 15 hours on the internet at a time might be a normal reaction to living in an extremely oppressive society.
I spend 15h online daily.. I never knew Canada was oppressive. But it must be true.
It seems that Diablo, the story goes, was originally turnbased! Some engineer had the kooky idea of converting the game over to be realtime, which noone he worked with was to fired up about. So, he did it on the side as a pet project. When finished, he checked it in and had everyone give it a shot. They of course realized they had a winner on their hands ...
I doubt it. The code difference between a turn based and a real time game is non-trivail. In fact I doubt 1 person working in their sparetime could do it. As well Blizzard has never made a turn based game, the desing for diablo is so different from a turn based one. If it did happen it would have had to be exstremely early in the dev proccess.
Can't you see the difference between something that is spread by standing in the same room verses something that requires a deliberate act that isn't neccesarily part of going into the general public?
One is an imediete threat based on living participating in government run/mandated activities like going to school. The other is a threat if you chose to do an activity.
Unless the hidden position here is that the governemnt should be resoncible for people who decide to do something on their own. But in that case, requiring a person to get monthly checkups and presenting a waivier of liability that another person needs to sign before acting on that decision would have the same effect. Actualy it would have even greater results. It would eliminate the transmision of quite a few other diseases too. Why aren't we pushing for this as an requirment to attend school? Maybe because the government has no right in this area! Same with gardasil!
But how do we know this gardasil isn't being pushed just to give the government that kind of power? I mean there is little difference in requiring monthly checkups and a vaccine. except how many times a person see the doctor.
You are aware breathing is an optional activity. Ceasing it willprevent all kinds of ailments. Sex is also anothe rbasic human function and it's choice is compelled by similiar but weaker compulsion.
The key difference between monthly checkups and a vaccine is cost. $90 * 12 months * 60 adult years = $64 800 while vaccine is now $400 soon to be less. Your creeping into tin foil hat terroritory. If they needed to assert control over us there are more efficient and meanigful ways but from your arguement none of the things you pointed out except "optional sex" is meaningful to you. The rest of your arguement is random consiracy suggestions and completely idiotic.
Remember that falling on a rusty nail is preventable or being exposed to hep b is preventable. All you have to do is stay away from any rusty nails and never eat anywhere but home. Both are as easy as abstaining from sex. All three are exstremely difficult. Tetnus and Hep B are vacinated for. So HPV is also a decent idea to vacinate for. I'm sure the crux of your opposition is based on the idea that girls shouldn't be having sex until they find a nice white anglo saxon protistant to marry and then only after the wedding and for the purposes of reproduction but by all statistics they'll likely have sex with the first guy who strikes their fancy and with about seven others on avaerage. They'll lose it by 14 or so. None of you upbringing will matter since the majority of the time biologigy trumps parental FUD.
This vaccine has nothing at all to do with attending public school. It's not an airborne disease, and so isn't something you could possible contract at school. The idea that states are requiring it for students is overstepping their authority, and corruption, in the most blatant terms.
Never been to high school? Hep B is vacinated for and it too is not air born. Neither is tetanus or actually about 25% of everything we vacinate for. You logic is distorted. As for sex, the vast majority of people have it by the time their in high school. Deal with that fact instead of burrying your head int he sand.
However the plan is to vacinate via the high school vacinations. Which brings that number down significantly to only those reciving one of their high school immunizations. 11-18. Which is around 20 mil. You do use a lot of bad assuptions. Consider that it's estimated 50% of adult humans have HPV. IT means the only way to be sure your vaccine works is to administer it early. Meaning 11-18 and most likely before 16 since most girls have had sex before then. This reduces it further to about 8 mil at any given time. Roughly 4000 women a year will die from cervical cancer which is strongly liked to HPV. 10,000 yearly will be diagnosed. Hysterectomy is the ussual treatment for Microinvasive cervical cancer. That costs about $9000. You can also use radio therapy on less advanced forms at about 2,000 a shot. Assuming those 4000 that died tried hysterectomies we're facing 4,000 * $9000 + 6,000 * $2000 = $48 000 000 for treatment of new patients. The thing with vacination is it will get cheaper as you buy more and the formula ages, and as the immunization rate climbs the infection rate will decrease sharply at some point. So at some point only 12 or 13 year olds will need the vacination and people face one less cancer.
The initial cost if you innoculate the entire target group is 8 bil with a reoccuring of 1 bil but it will decline rapidly on economies of scale.
... because HPV vaccination prevents AIDS and pregnancy.
No, but the condoms you gave her and the instructions on how to use them generally do. As does the pill.
I looks like we realy do need to put as lot of effort into education - the reaction above is a common grouping of irrelevant factors into a complaint. A combination of radical anti-intellectual "Christian" groups that call themselves conservative and new age anti-intellectuals have really messed up attitudes of many and the media looking for a knee jerk reaction story in paticular.
I agree whole heartidly. I get massive head aches from eye rolling from both my fundy friends and the vegan, all natural, science is evil dips too.
We're talking about a HUGE expense ($400 a pop) x 100 million woman initially (that fit in to the age group in the US) -- then about $400 a pop x 2 million a year for all 11 year old girls. Compare that to the cost of making a $10-$20 pap available to the underserved and high-risk woman who would benefit from it.
Wow a country of 300 million people have 100 million virgin girls. I should head south more often. You may want to get your census information from a source other then "out of my own ass."
There's probably no FDA approval for men, because Merck didn't submit any data for men, which they didn't do, because they didn't do studies on men. They didn't do studies on men, because it wasn't as cost-effective, because there are more straight women in the world than there are gay men.
You do realize that being gay is not a prequisite for being a carrier.
Look up Hep vacines. You get one, then require a booster down the line. Ditto with stuff like tetanus shots.
I work at a Telecom in a lowly sales desk position. Recently my telecome started offering porn on cell phones. We then got a slew of people calling in (who often didn't have service with us) complaining about this because some article in a right wing paper mentioned it. I'd bring up things like porn being available on our major competators TV service. The internet being over run with it. And the fact that you had to jump through so many hoops to get it that it's more secure then your TV service (a friend of my tried to get it on a lark. She was denied because she hadn't provided a ID with a birthday on her account and had no valid credit cards).
This siutation is similiar, the religious get their panties all in a knot over nothing and will often be hippocrites and fools about a subject. They simply borrow the opinion of those who evangelize to them. Often without knowing it makes appear foolish and act like hippocrites.
Did you know suicide also prevent 100% of new STD infections after the treatment. But of course it's not suitable for everyone as the vast majority of human beings will not commit to that solution. Ditto with abstinence. I betcha that if you have a daughter and she's 16, she's had sex. I find the religious family ones to be the ones who most readily lose it and know least about how to protect themselves. Most of the time, the more you forbid something, the more likely it'll happen. Just a note, I've had 5 virgins in my life. all of them catholic or from an anti-sex family (1 was traditional chinese). It doesn't take much convincing to get them to drop their drawers and all of the junk their parent taught them failed against my nerd physique and irresistible squinty gamers eyes.
From most info I got. It stops 80% of the strains. Which is pretty decent.
They're not forcing people to do this. Your FUD is astuonding. Your real objection is transparent.
They are nto forcing anyone in this case. You can opt out. Although in the interest of public health they will force you to do many things. For instance if you had a super bug TB strain in you the powers that be will insist you get treatment for it. They will even arrest you. The rest of us think thats alright because you can keep that TB to yourself.
Yes it all varies with the color of the light.
Alright, the good guys gets the red ones and the bad guys can use the green ones. That way we know when we got killed by friendly or unfriendly fire.
The US inteferes very rarely in "genocide". mostly it's the UN that sends troops. The US isn't out there to prevent genocide or dethrone dictators. It's fairly well known for supporting dicators (Sadam up until the first iraq war, saudi arabias rulign princes, egypt, most of south america, some of the african dictators). As for genocide. The Us is fairly genocide neutral. It neither goes out of it's way to prevent it in the world nor does it go out of it's way to fund it.
Difficulty? WoW is made for casual gamers. I've gotten an alt to level sixty (pre BoC) in less than 96 hours played time.
Community? In EQ, you were forced to group, unless you played one of a handful of classes. Being forced to interact with other people built up a sense of community. All I saw in WoW were random names that happened to be going the same places I was.
Competition? The prevalence of instancing in WoW basically destroyed the idea of competition. All that you have is who is first to beat new content. There's no more racing for big named mobs, which was part of the fun of EQ, imo.
To you, that was what was right about EQ. To me that was what was wrong about EQ. I want to decide when to play my games. I don't want it decided for me. For EQ for all the high level mobs and being first ect.. dictates you sink all free time into it. It's not even all that compelling or fun. The socialization was cool but sometimes you want just log in, finish a few quest and do some fishing ect.. without the necessity to grou into a 40 man raid to find your fishing hole. But to each their own. I prefer WOW mostly. Wow is not made for casual players. it's made for medium hardcore ones while EQ is made for heavy hardcore ones.
For electronics, fixing them can be more expensive then fabing a new one depending ont he problem. Also once fixed electronics tend to fail more often after. So a machine that has been fixed once tends ot break more often then a machine that has never been fixed at all of the same age. So for them given these two facts they'd rather just send you a new one.
Anecdote: My Sony cybershot retailed for $250 when I bought it. Last year it broke and it cost me $100 ot fix it. I debated if I wanted to fix it or not since a new one is about $250. I eventually paid to fix it. It came back with some odd new quirks. Not owrht it. I made the wrong decision.
Seriously... you'd think everyone has issues with the things. My release date 360 still runs just as well as it did since it arrived.
Get over the anti-Microsoft high-horse, guys. The console is perfectly stable for those of us who take the time to clean up around the thing an don't stuff it into an air-tight hole somewhere.
You anecdote is not indicitive of all 360's just as my launch PS2 is not indicative of other PS2's fromt hat time. My PS2 has been running with heavy use for almost 6 years. It's only now starting to have a bit of disc reading slow down. Audio sometimes takes a half a second to start up in dialogue on MGS3. Aside from that no problems. But a moderate percentage of the launch ps2's had the disc read error of death. Just because it's fine for me or you doesn't mean other units dont' have problems.
PS3 fanboys
And there are exactly how many of those? I think it's a huge logical cop out when you deflect criticism of your "thing" by assumign all criticism is simply fanboys. Also given how bland the reception to the ps3 was I doubt there are actually all that many fanboys.