If people agree with her agree so regardless of how she reacts to the media, then they only require minimal attention. After all, unless she fscks up real bad they would vote for her anyway.
What she ought to be targeting are the undecided voters. Being rude to the media is never a good idea, particularly when they can and will affect how many people would swing towards/against her.
The only problem with the "chat bot" test is that the conversation itself is often too shallow. Often aggravated by the media (and researchers in desperate need of funding) where a chatbot fools people for 3 seconds and they claim the bot has passed the test.
Yet the Turing Test is potentially as deep as you could get. It basically reflects not only the depth of the computer, but the depth (in personality and thought) of the interviewer too.
But a quarter million $ and 3 years? Not going to happen. This kind of thing happens hundreds of times a week, if not day. How many times a day in the US, does someone steal a piece of physical mail (a Federal crime)? Probably in the thousands.
You want to bet on that? If this guy wasn't singled out then he wouldn't be even charged. I mean, do you really have thousands of people being charged every day for hacking into other people's email accounts?
quarter million $ and 3 years probably won't happen, but he won't be up for a light sentence if convicted, and it would definitely be much heavier than if he had hacked into a average Joe's account...
I guess it's because most of the perl guys were Unix guys?
At any rate perl doesn't really fit into the.NET "OOP" paradigm. It has objects, but with such flexibility that every time I wanted to create an object in perl I have to look up the bless() function. Most people use it to write small, fast scripts (Activeperl on Windows takes care of that) and there aren't many medium to large scale projects (which.NET arguably does well) that use perl.
If only a computer could generate sloppy handwriting automatically...
Actually you don't have to.
There are many (?) texts which you could find both hand copied versions and digital versions. I'm not sure that's enough for Google's traffic, but it might still be worth a look.
If in doubt, crawl through the garbage of kindergartens. Might find some copybooks lying around somewhere;-p
Seriously, you really have no clue what you are talking about.
I don't know where to start.
Here's what I have to say. You don't nitpick on a few lines in a long judgment and claim the decision is bad just because of that few lines.
It's like if I found a typo in your post and claimed it was all bullsh!t. Worse, I said it was boring and I only noticed the typo.
The rant is understandable, since somehow the law eludes many (although personally with hindsight it's not that hard to get), and most people don't know how their legal system works, but I really can't imagine this getting through the slashdot filter and posted. Yes, even by slashdot standards. (Yes Taco I'm talking about you)
I understand where you come from, and I can accept that maybe the manufacturers didn't know it could be *that* bad.
But isn't adding some dubious "somewhat toxic, we-don't-know-what-exactly-it-does" substance just to fool quality tests more than just stupidity?
I bet the persons in the know wouldn't drink that stuff they produced.
Besides, if you look at the "chronic toxicity" part, the 1953 report on dogs is telling. Kidney problems, precisely. Of course they wouldn't have much studies on its effects on people, since you don't tell people to eat toxic substances just to see what happens.
I'm too lazy to find the actual statistics, but I Read On The Internet Somewhere (probably on Digg) that the number of gold medals China has won for the past few olympics have been rising steadily, and if interpolated would mean that China would surpass the US on the medal count. This was before the games started.
As for the failures, the time (2003) when they sent a man into space (as opposed to machines and satellites), there was a recap here (Hong Kong) about the history of China's space programs. I recall it mentioned a rough beginning where some of the attempts to send spaceships into orbit failed. Of course you wouldn't have heard about that because it wasn't news for you.
And please, you *think* you're criticizing the Chinese government, but I really don't see how you're just targeting the "government". "it was their national imperative"? I'm not going to defend the age of the gymnast -- I personally don't think there was a need to fake her age, but that's besides the point as there are bad apples everywhere (which country hasn't had an athelete who got caught taking drugs) -- It isn't the national imperative of China to cheat to win.
Even without the space program China has a strong economic and military influence to discourage other countries to support Taiwan. Maybe it adds a small chip on the bargaining table, but it would be very insignificant.
From my perspective it's less about another cold war, and more on "yes we can" for the Chinese. More of a nation building thing to boost confidence in the nation's "power", if you will.
And of course, why would China want to nuke the US? You don't nuke your the largest customer... Besides, who doesn't like MacDonalds and KFC?
Can't say I know anything about food science, but isn't it shady practice to put dubious substances into food? I don't know whether they knew the exact effects of adding melamine to milk, but aren't there things called food safety regulations (which actually exist even in China) that forbids people to add random chemicals to food?
Normally I wouldn't label somebody as a hypocrite so easily. But then....
The Chinese deserve due credit for their achievements, in space. However, their government lacks any kind of credibility and that diminishes what has been accomplished.
They either did it, or they didn't. Which?
It took them 40 years to catch up with the other superpowers in accomplishing this spacewalk, which should serve to amplify the effects of their oppressive regime and communist philosophy overall.
"We got here first"?
The Chinese news agency will fabricate whatever suits them, so any narrative going along with this accomplishment should be ignored. Their Olympics wowed us with their faked opening ceremony, underage athletes supported with government-supplied cover stories, biased judging and who knows what else that went undetected.
"We lost the Olympics, you must have been cheating"
How much slave labor is used in their space program is unknown. How much stolen and misappropriated technology they've used is unknown. How many people that were sickened, injured or killed by the hazardous materials and working conditions prevalent in their space program is unknown.
"You got into space (just like us), there must be something afoul here (you can't be that good!)"
Man, if you're giving "due credit" with so many reservations you might as well shut up and flame the Chinese government like all the other posters here.
That's only because we don't execute our prisoners as often for as many crimes. [.... ] North Korea is worse, but I don't really discriminate between differing levels of inhumanity.
What's the difference between the executions in the USA and in China? Difference in levels?
Beijing could have nuked Taiwan if they wanted to decades ago. IIRC China had nukes in the 1960's. Do you think they planned to deliver the nukes by truck?
Military action towards Taiwan in these days is seen as a last resort. An ever present threat, sure, but it's hilarious to think that the whole point of the space program is to send nukes to Taiwan.
Taiwan is actually less than an hour flight from the South China's coasts. You need a space rocket for that?
Sometimes I wonder about this China blindside I see in Slashdot, is it a language problem?
A legacy of the cold war, the Korean wars and the Vietnam wars, where it was "the world vs. the communists".
Also the incredulity that a non-democratic state could actually rise up to rival the world's "superpower", giving doubts to whether this "democracy" thing is really as good as they were told.
I mean, the mindset "No you can't be better than us... you're an authoritarian state and we're a democracy!" runs rampant around here.
Sometimes the problem is intensified by language problems, but I doubt it's the root cause. Many people here seem to take it personally that China isn't playing this "democracy" game.
Some day you are going to have to realize that not all arguments can be won by sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "Chinese Communists!"
As repeated over and over again, the premature release was most likely due to a bad mistake than any intentional deceit. Laugh, they made a stupid mistake. And then fscking Get Over It.
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Isn't that pointless?
If people agree with her agree so regardless of how she reacts to the media, then they only require minimal attention. After all, unless she fscks up real bad they would vote for her anyway.
What she ought to be targeting are the undecided voters. Being rude to the media is never a good idea, particularly when they can and will affect how many people would swing towards/against her.
The only problem with the "chat bot" test is that the conversation itself is often too shallow. Often aggravated by the media (and researchers in desperate need of funding) where a chatbot fools people for 3 seconds and they claim the bot has passed the test.
Yet the Turing Test is potentially as deep as you could get. It basically reflects not only the depth of the computer, but the depth (in personality and thought) of the interviewer too.
For a vigorous proof you need to have a definition of "thinking" which is as vigorous.
Or maybe you meant "convince me"? (which is the point of the Turing test)
Not ever.
Isn't elections in a democracy a big popularity contest?
Or I must be disillusioned...
But a quarter million $ and 3 years? Not going to happen. This kind of thing happens hundreds of times a week, if not day. How many times a day in the US, does someone steal a piece of physical mail (a Federal crime)? Probably in the thousands.
You want to bet on that? If this guy wasn't singled out then he wouldn't be even charged. I mean, do you really have thousands of people being charged every day for hacking into other people's email accounts?
quarter million $ and 3 years probably won't happen, but he won't be up for a light sentence if convicted, and it would definitely be much heavier than if he had hacked into a average Joe's account...
The "rule of law" means nothing in these cases...
Sigh.
Some are more equal than others.
I mean, the reaction from the authorities is expected, but in a semiideal world, this shouldn't happen.
I guess it's because most of the perl guys were Unix guys?
At any rate perl doesn't really fit into the .NET "OOP" paradigm. It has objects, but with such flexibility that every time I wanted to create an object in perl I have to look up the bless() function. Most people use it to write small, fast scripts (Activeperl on Windows takes care of that) and there aren't many medium to large scale projects (which .NET arguably does well) that use perl.
Phones.
How many spammers have 10000000 phone numbers?
Just allow, say, 10 accounts per phone number and you're all set.
If only a computer could generate sloppy handwriting automatically...
Actually you don't have to.
There are many (?) texts which you could find both hand copied versions and digital versions. I'm not sure that's enough for Google's traffic, but it might still be worth a look.
If in doubt, crawl through the garbage of kindergartens. Might find some copybooks lying around somewhere ;-p
Who modded this up instead of giving the correct solution?
P = NP
=> P-NP = 0
=> P(1-N) = 0
=> P = 0 or N = 1
Well, according to this the USA isn't exactly a country with a small population either. As for spending power the USA is still taking the lead.
Sure, you might have a billion people next door, but that doesn't mean all of them can afford the few "cents" of "micro" payment.
Wow. (Compares UID) How humiliating.... :-'(
Slow learner here ;-p
Seriously, you really have no clue what you are talking about.
I don't know where to start.
Here's what I have to say. You don't nitpick on a few lines in a long judgment and claim the decision is bad just because of that few lines.
It's like if I found a typo in your post and claimed it was all bullsh!t. Worse, I said it was boring and I only noticed the typo.
The rant is understandable, since somehow the law eludes many (although personally with hindsight it's not that hard to get), and most people don't know how their legal system works, but I really can't imagine this getting through the slashdot filter and posted. Yes, even by slashdot standards. (Yes Taco I'm talking about you)
I understand where you come from, and I can accept that maybe the manufacturers didn't know it could be *that* bad.
But isn't adding some dubious "somewhat toxic, we-don't-know-what-exactly-it-does" substance just to fool quality tests more than just stupidity?
I bet the persons in the know wouldn't drink that stuff they produced.
Besides, if you look at the "chronic toxicity" part, the 1953 report on dogs is telling. Kidney problems, precisely. Of course they wouldn't have much studies on its effects on people, since you don't tell people to eat toxic substances just to see what happens.
(Note: I'm not the AC ;-p)
I'm too lazy to find the actual statistics, but I Read On The Internet Somewhere (probably on Digg) that the number of gold medals China has won for the past few olympics have been rising steadily, and if interpolated would mean that China would surpass the US on the medal count. This was before the games started.
As for the failures, the time (2003) when they sent a man into space (as opposed to machines and satellites), there was a recap here (Hong Kong) about the history of China's space programs. I recall it mentioned a rough beginning where some of the attempts to send spaceships into orbit failed. Of course you wouldn't have heard about that because it wasn't news for you.
And please, you *think* you're criticizing the Chinese government, but I really don't see how you're just targeting the "government". "it was their national imperative"? I'm not going to defend the age of the gymnast -- I personally don't think there was a need to fake her age, but that's besides the point as there are bad apples everywhere (which country hasn't had an athelete who got caught taking drugs) -- It isn't the national imperative of China to cheat to win.
Even without the space program China has a strong economic and military influence to discourage other countries to support Taiwan. Maybe it adds a small chip on the bargaining table, but it would be very insignificant.
From my perspective it's less about another cold war, and more on "yes we can" for the Chinese. More of a nation building thing to boost confidence in the nation's "power", if you will.
And of course, why would China want to nuke the US? You don't nuke your the largest customer... Besides, who doesn't like MacDonalds and KFC?
Can't say I know anything about food science, but isn't it shady practice to put dubious substances into food? I don't know whether they knew the exact effects of adding melamine to milk, but aren't there things called food safety regulations (which actually exist even in China) that forbids people to add random chemicals to food?
Obviously greed. Ignorance? I think not...
It makes you feel good doesn't it?
Painting the world black and white, and then assuming yourself on the good side ALWAYS induces a high.
Normally I wouldn't label somebody as a hypocrite so easily. But then....
The Chinese deserve due credit for their achievements, in space. However, their government lacks any kind of credibility and that diminishes what has been accomplished.
They either did it, or they didn't. Which?
It took them 40 years to catch up with the other superpowers in accomplishing this spacewalk, which should serve to amplify the effects of their oppressive regime and communist philosophy overall.
"We got here first"?
The Chinese news agency will fabricate whatever suits them, so any narrative going along with this accomplishment should be ignored. Their Olympics wowed us with their faked opening ceremony, underage athletes supported with government-supplied cover stories, biased judging and who knows what else that went undetected.
"We lost the Olympics, you must have been cheating"
How much slave labor is used in their space program is unknown. How much stolen and misappropriated technology they've used is unknown. How many people that were sickened, injured or killed by the hazardous materials and working conditions prevalent in their space program is unknown.
"You got into space (just like us), there must be something afoul here (you can't be that good!)"
Man, if you're giving "due credit" with so many reservations you might as well shut up and flame the Chinese government like all the other posters here.
That's only because we don't execute our prisoners as often for as many crimes. [ .... ] North Korea is worse, but I don't really discriminate between differing levels of inhumanity.
What's the difference between the executions in the USA and in China? Difference in levels?
You gotta be kidding.
Beijing could have nuked Taiwan if they wanted to decades ago. IIRC China had nukes in the 1960's. Do you think they planned to deliver the nukes by truck?
Military action towards Taiwan in these days is seen as a last resort. An ever present threat, sure, but it's hilarious to think that the whole point of the space program is to send nukes to Taiwan.
Taiwan is actually less than an hour flight from the South China's coasts. You need a space rocket for that?
Sometimes I wonder about this China blindside I see in Slashdot, is it a language problem?
A legacy of the cold war, the Korean wars and the Vietnam wars, where it was "the world vs. the communists".
Also the incredulity that a non-democratic state could actually rise up to rival the world's "superpower", giving doubts to whether this "democracy" thing is really as good as they were told.
I mean, the mindset "No you can't be better than us... you're an authoritarian state and we're a democracy!" runs rampant around here.
Sometimes the problem is intensified by language problems, but I doubt it's the root cause. Many people here seem to take it personally that China isn't playing this "democracy" game.
Good one.
I'll try to remember this.
Some day you are going to have to realize that not all arguments can be won by sticking your fingers in your ears and yelling "Chinese Communists!"
As repeated over and over again, the premature release was most likely due to a bad mistake than any intentional deceit. Laugh, they made a stupid mistake. And then fscking Get Over It.
If you think Chinese society is still "planned", look again.