I really don't see the great appeal of the Linux desktop. While some complexity is hidden, other things are crippled to the point of being not useful. If you have demanding requirements, you will find yourself right back at the console.
Why does Linux need tons of non-technical users who are unlikely to appreciate and understand the Open Source ethic?
It isn't about non-technical users at all. It's about the TECHNICAL users who would love to use Linux, if every available distro and desktop weren't CRAP to a large degree. I am an advanced user who used Linux exclusively for over a decade and was the greatest cheerleader for it, but I'm sorry, there is no Linux distro that can hold a candle to Windows 7 for desktop use. The only thing Linux is good for is running servers and compiling shit.
Huh? 2-year-old kids and 86-year-old grandmothers effortlessly use Linux Mint!
Of course! It's the 30 year old professionals who have problems with it.
Source: I used a Linux desktop exclusively for over a decade. Even bought a Dell Ubuntu laptop at a ridiculously high price. Linux is not and likely will never be ready for the desktop, at least not with KDE, Gnome, or any of the present distros. Linux needs a reboot, by an organization that actually knows WTF it's doing. Until then I'll stick with Windows 7, thanks.
My KDE desktop worked great "out of the box". No tinkering required.
That's funny, because just yesterday I installed Linux Mint 12 KDE edition (KDE 4.7.x) and found that there was definitely some tinkering required out of the box. The most recent annoying thing I bumped into a few minutes ago was having to dig and search through Dolphin to find the screen where I have the option of adding the Configure Dolphin button to the toolbar, so that I then can click OK, and then click the Configure Dolphin button to configure it. Only to find the configuration option I wanted does not exist, because this is a half assed joke of a file manager.
Yeah, Dolphin kinda sucks. Konqueror was a much better file manager, flawed and over-complicated though it might have been. Sadly enough, the best file manager on the market will be Windows Explorer, when Win8 is released. They have done some upgrades and finally it's as good as File Manager was, back in the Win3.1 era.
Dolphin 2.1 will be released as part of KDE applications 4.9 on the first of August and to me this is a very special release: After 6 years of development, around 2700 commits and a lot of fun I'll be forwarding the maintainership to Frank Reininghaus. Frank did a great job during the last years to improve Dolphin and I'm really glad that he accepted the maintainership.
For me forwarding the maintainership also means that I won't provide any bugfixes or features for Dolphin anymore. Probably this step is quite surprising for most readers and I think I owe an explanation. Before going into details it might be useful to first describe the reasons for developing Dolphin at all.
THE FIRST STEPS At the beginning of 2006 I wanted to gain some experience with Qt and I've been looking for a small project. I liked the functionality of Konqueror but was not happy with the user interface - I thought that writing a small and fast file manager fitting just for my own needs and to learn Qt should not be that hard (if somebody would have told me that I'll be spending at least 6 years on this project I probably would have given up immediately). Thanks to some great classes in kdelibs I was able to browse through directories only a few hours later and my (wrong) assumption "this should not be that hard" got tightened.
Around mid of 2006 I've released the 0.5 version of Dolphin at kde-apps.org. Making a long story short: Matthias Ettrich called me and asked whether I want to help contributing to the filemanager for KDE 4.0. David Faure was very busy with porting parts of kdelibs to that time and more interested in doing the tricky and challenging parts instead of the "boring user interface programming" (I cannot remember anymore the exact words Matthias has used, but it was something like this). Well, suddenly I was part of the KDE community, got great support from Aaron J. Seigo and it started to get a great experience for me to contribute to such a large project. Learning Qt was secondary then, it was more about learning how the whole development for such a big project works and how decisions are made.
It is quite interesting to compare a screenshot from Dolphin 6 years ago to the recent version:
WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN? The KDE community is still great and there are enough things left to make Dolphin better, so what has changed since then for me?
One thing is that the time required to keep Dolphin in good shape increased during the last years. I'm doing this project in my spare-time and usually have spend around one evening per week on Dolphin. Especially during the last 2 years this time has increased. In the longterm especially the (for me absolutely necessary) step to port Dolphin to QtQuick2 is something I won't be able to do within a sane timeframe. The interesting thing is that porting the new view-engine to QtQuick2 is probably the easiest part: There is a clean seperation of the representation and the model and exchanging the representation should be doable within a reasonable amount of time. I guess with Qt 5.1 or 5.2 (I don't know) there will be desktop-components for QtQuick2 and porting Dolphin to this components will be a very timeconsuming and boring task: All the settings-pages, the URL-navigator, the information-panel, the search-interface, the tooltips,... - this is just not doable anymore in my spare-time.
Of course you might ask whether a port to QtQuick2 is really necessary. But to me in the scope of KDE QtQuick2 is the only solution to be able to compete with the other big desktop environments out there in terms of a responsive and beautiful interface.
So would it help if other developers would join the Dolphin project and take care for doing the QtQuick2 port? Sadly for me this still would not be enough to keep on maintaining Dolphin, as there is another reason to quit contributing: I'm using KDE since version 1.2 and I never cared what market share KDE or Linux on the desktop has. However to me it was important t
Had he been wearing a helmet it's likely that he would have just gotten back on his bike.
....and pressed on doing whatever stupid thing caused him to almost kill himself the first time, feeling invincible. Without the helmet, it hurt, but I bet he was a lot more careful in the future wasn't he?
How many of those drivers have dynamic recompilation code in them (or even a compiler, for that matter)?
What about NetBSD drivers, which run in userspace and are easily portable between architectures almost seamlessly? There is more than one way to skin a cat, and the Linux developers are being really closed minded with their insistence on changing up the driver ABI all the time. PC technology is certainly mature enough that they can settle on a standard ABI and stick to it, if only there were the political will to do so. Linux's culture is its own worst enemy.
So let me get this straight - you actually think that people will vote for Mitt Romney?
Why do you automatically assume Romney will be the Republican nominee? He does not have enough delegates at this time to secure the nomination on the first round of voting. In fact, a large number of his delegates are suing the GOP as we speak to ensure they have the right to vote for whomever they want, i.e. Ron Paul, who himself currently has a much more sizeable chunk of delegates than the media is reporting.
That is why no other candidate piled on Newt's "lower gas prices" bandwagon.
No, the reason is because Newt was an idiot. It had nothing to do his specific wild claims on gas prices. Witness Cain's temporary immense popularity with his bullshit 9-9-9 "plan." People will believe anything a person says if they like a guy. The problem for Cain of course was his plan was complete bullshit and was quickly exposed as such, which destroyed his credibility.
In Obama's case, he has lied to and ignored the American people time and time again the past four years, and by the time the vote rolls around will have been thoroughly exposed as the fraud and puppet he is. When Ron Paul faces him at the polls in November, he is fucked.
The only way car makers could meet this was to make engines run cooler, and in so doing reduced the efficiency of the engines.
This is bullshit. Cars don't run any "cooler" than they did 30 years ago, that is nonsense. In fact they run hotter in most cases: the average thermostat temp in a modern vehicle is 195* or higher, whereas 30+ years ago they were 180-190* or lower. The average car today is far more efficient and a much better car overall than an average vehicle produced in 1982.
Four cylinder? Even and especially if it's a V6.....feels fucking fantastic having all that power and getting 25-30+ MPG all day long, doesn't it? (Except when you hit the gas of course....lol.)
Mustang SVO owner here, not giving a rat's ass what fuel costs.
What? There's at least as much useful (and reproducible) technology in the drivers as in the hardware. I can pretty much guarantee any open-source drivers would be gone though with a fine-tooth comb for useful information in exactly the fashion that companies purchase and disassemble their competitors products for manufacturing information
I'm one of those types of people who can read all the book theory in the world and maybe still have a hard time understanding what's going on, but when I see a concept in action in actual hardware, and have complete, working source code to play around with and try different things, I could figure anything out.
I personally don't have any particular interest in video cards, but I know there's tons of geeks out there who do, and such a source code release would help them immensely. These people, having gained lots of knowledge and insight from their experimentation and other related studies, would be much better positioned and more confident about going into the business of creating their own state-of-the-art video cards.
I think the video card market could really use some more competitors at this juncture. Things would be a lot healthier if a half dozen companies were to enter the market producing various kinds of video chips, from budget and mobile accelerators to more higher end products, based in part on information learned from NVidia and/or ATI source code.
If NVidia and ATI/AMD truly are confident in having the best engineers, processes, etc, they will surely continue to dominate this market, and they should have no worries. The increased competition would be healthy for both companies and the customers would get better and cheaper accelerators in the bargain. Linux users and enterprises deploying Linux would profit enormously of course.
3D graphics have reached the point where high quality, realistic graphics are becoming commonplace and essential. I guess you could say the market has entered a new phase of growth, where instead of a few key players always one-upping each other on the cutting edge, we now have a situation where the demand for 3D graphics across various markets (gaming, PC, mobile, low end, high end, etc) is too big for the existing companies to completely fulfill. There needs to be new competitors entering the market, and there certainly will be sooner or later.
ATI/Nvidia may have the upper hand at this present moment, but other technological advances, computing in general, simulation and manufacturing capabilities, etc, have caused us to reach a point where much lower end players can now enter the graphics accelerator market and compete successfully. The specific and detailed technical knowledge will leak out sooner or later...so the question to ATI/Nvidia is: which of you wants to be the one to get your foot in the Linux door first?
Which of you wants to be the inspiration to future graphics engineers, who will be influenced by your designs and your way of doing things, who will likely create hardware/software that is more compatible with yours, who will likely open source their own code for you to learn from later down the road, and who will in a way becoming dependent on the knowledge you allow to leave your facility?
Vs the opposite situation of keeping everything a closed and guarded secret, while the knowledge inevitably escapes out anyway, with the resulting new players having been hardened and smartened/toughened up by figuring it all out on their own no thanks to you, and are now true competitors with no loyalty to your company whatsoever?
The choice is yours!
Also, note to Linux kernel developers: pull your heads out of your asses and develop a stable kernel API for drivers, please.
It's the collapse of the European economy. Duh. Back when these forecasts for high oil prices were made, the "experts" were also forecasting all kinds of other B.S., like economic recovery in the Euro zone. Guess what, it didn't happen, and isn't going to happen because the Euro is going to collapse--with massive economic fallout. It's happening now. The reduction in demand due to this catastrophe explains the drop in oil pricing.
The problem is, a) low oil prices are now making certain oil fields too costly to explore, plus b) worldwide supply is now at peak, a future spike in demand is going to send prices skyrocketing. It's only a matter of time.
Teenage unemployment is skyrocketing and yet we have some of the lowest minimum wages (adjusted for inflation) the country has seen
Period.
"Minimum wage" is a modern invention. It's a stupid idea that doesn't work.
Your argument is wrong because you don't take into account the fact that employment levels would increase significantly if the minimum wage requirements were lifted.
But oh noes.....other people's wages would have to decrease accordingly.....including yours!
....But wait! Less taxes could then be deducted from your paycheck, due to decreased drain on the welfare system.......right?
LOL
Of course not. Our Founders understood this. Once government grows, it is very difficult to shrink. When welfare comes out of our personal generosity as free people rather than being taken forcibly out of everyone's pocket, that drain on one's pocket book can increase or decrease as befitting the individual's circumstances. When it's taken forcibly however, the drain is always there regardless. Everyone has a more difficult time making a living whether that is appropriate to their circumstances or not. The employer is taxed and is not able to hire as many people, due to part of his productivity being taken from him, and rerouted to some government program he doesn't agree with and that isn't necessarily in his interest.
The government thus directly causes unemployment through taxation. When minimum wage laws are passed, the only people really affected are the unskilled and entry level workers. There are fewer jobs for them because the total budget available at each company to pay workers doesn't increase just because the State mandates things should be a certain way. This causes even more pressure on the welfare system, and soon the politicians are crying for more funding. The cycle repeats itself.
The effect is, poor people who otherwise could have pulled their weight in a free market, are muscled out by competitors (X number of jobs open, Y number of competitors, you do the math) who then receive a higher wage, which does not necessarily correspond with the wage they are worth, and is much less likely to correspond with said worth than it would under free market conditions.
A living wage is the minimum amount that someone needs to live on and not be a high risk of financial catastrophe, ether by foreseen events (day to day bills) or unforeseen (medical bill related to things like appendicitis).
LOL. You've done nothing here other than show your own naivete and lack of education about money. That's what any of this "labor exploitation" bullshit always boils down to: the people moaning about slavery are slaves because of their stubborn refusal to learn about money and become its master, not be mastered by it. No, they'd rather bitch about capitalism and "robber barons" and this and that.
Read a book some time, and learn how to live standing on your own two feet, instead of living it up paycheck to paycheck and expecting your employer or Somebody Else to cover all ills that may befall you. Life doesn't work life that.
Slashdot Mirror
I really don't see the great appeal of the Linux desktop. While some complexity is hidden, other things are crippled to the point of being not useful. If you have demanding requirements, you will find yourself right back at the console.
Why does Linux need tons of non-technical users who are unlikely to appreciate and understand the Open Source ethic?
It isn't about non-technical users at all. It's about the TECHNICAL users who would love to use Linux, if every available distro and desktop weren't CRAP to a large degree. I am an advanced user who used Linux exclusively for over a decade and was the greatest cheerleader for it, but I'm sorry, there is no Linux distro that can hold a candle to Windows 7 for desktop use. The only thing Linux is good for is running servers and compiling shit.
Huh? 2-year-old kids and 86-year-old grandmothers effortlessly use Linux Mint!
Of course! It's the 30 year old professionals who have problems with it.
Source: I used a Linux desktop exclusively for over a decade. Even bought a Dell Ubuntu laptop at a ridiculously high price. Linux is not and likely will never be ready for the desktop, at least not with KDE, Gnome, or any of the present distros. Linux needs a reboot, by an organization that actually knows WTF it's doing. Until then I'll stick with Windows 7, thanks.
My KDE desktop worked great "out of the box". No tinkering required.
That's funny, because just yesterday I installed Linux Mint 12 KDE edition (KDE 4.7.x) and found that there was definitely some tinkering required out of the box. The most recent annoying thing I bumped into a few minutes ago was having to dig and search through Dolphin to find the screen where I have the option of adding the Configure Dolphin button to the toolbar, so that I then can click OK, and then click the Configure Dolphin button to configure it. Only to find the configuration option I wanted does not exist, because this is a half assed joke of a file manager.
Yeah, Dolphin kinda sucks. Konqueror was a much better file manager, flawed and over-complicated though it might have been. Sadly enough, the best file manager on the market will be Windows Explorer, when Win8 is released. They have done some upgrades and finally it's as good as File Manager was, back in the Win3.1 era.
This is a serious post, not a troll. Iran is not planning to nuke anyone, as much as the media and government insists so. Get a clue mods!
Dolphin 2.1 will be released as part of KDE applications 4.9 on the first of August and to me this is a very special release: After 6 years of development, around 2700 commits and a lot of fun I'll be forwarding the maintainership to Frank Reininghaus. Frank did a great job during the last years to improve Dolphin and I'm really glad that he accepted the maintainership.
For me forwarding the maintainership also means that I won't provide any bugfixes or features for Dolphin anymore. Probably this step is quite surprising for most readers and I think I owe an explanation. Before going into details it might be useful to first describe the reasons for developing Dolphin at all.
THE FIRST STEPS
At the beginning of 2006 I wanted to gain some experience with Qt and I've been looking for a small project. I liked the functionality of Konqueror but was not happy with the user interface - I thought that writing a small and fast file manager fitting just for my own needs and to learn Qt should not be that hard (if somebody would have told me that I'll be spending at least 6 years on this project I probably would have given up immediately). Thanks to some great classes in kdelibs I was able to browse through directories only a few hours later and my (wrong) assumption "this should not be that hard" got tightened.
Around mid of 2006 I've released the 0.5 version of Dolphin at kde-apps.org. Making a long story short: Matthias Ettrich called me and asked whether I want to help contributing to the filemanager for KDE 4.0. David Faure was very busy with porting parts of kdelibs to that time and more interested in doing the tricky and challenging parts instead of the "boring user interface programming" (I cannot remember anymore the exact words Matthias has used, but it was something like this). Well, suddenly I was part of the KDE community, got great support from Aaron J. Seigo and it started to get a great experience for me to contribute to such a large project. Learning Qt was secondary then, it was more about learning how the whole development for such a big project works and how decisions are made.
It is quite interesting to compare a screenshot from Dolphin 6 years ago to the recent version:
WHAT HAS CHANGED SINCE THEN?
The KDE community is still great and there are enough things left to make Dolphin better, so what has changed since then for me?
One thing is that the time required to keep Dolphin in good shape increased during the last years. I'm doing this project in my spare-time and usually have spend around one evening per week on Dolphin. Especially during the last 2 years this time has increased. In the longterm especially the (for me absolutely necessary) step to port Dolphin to QtQuick2 is something I won't be able to do within a sane timeframe. The interesting thing is that porting the new view-engine to QtQuick2 is probably the easiest part: There is a clean seperation of the representation and the model and exchanging the representation should be doable within a reasonable amount of time. I guess with Qt 5.1 or 5.2 (I don't know) there will be desktop-components for QtQuick2 and porting Dolphin to this components will be a very timeconsuming and boring task: All the settings-pages, the URL-navigator, the information-panel, the search-interface, the tooltips, ... - this is just not doable anymore in my spare-time.
Of course you might ask whether a port to QtQuick2 is really necessary. But to me in the scope of KDE QtQuick2 is the only solution to be able to compete with the other big desktop environments out there in terms of a responsive and beautiful interface.
So would it help if other developers would join the Dolphin project and take care for doing the QtQuick2 port? Sadly for me this still would not be enough to keep on maintaining Dolphin, as there is another reason to quit contributing: I'm using KDE since version 1.2 and I never cared what market share KDE or Linux on the desktop has. However to me it was important t
As opposed to the people who may die if they don't?
Like the scientists who died when their car bombs exploded in the middle of broad daylight in town?
Any more pedants and this place would be a middle school.
Had he been wearing a helmet it's likely that he would have just gotten back on his bike.
....and pressed on doing whatever stupid thing caused him to almost kill himself the first time, feeling invincible. Without the helmet, it hurt, but I bet he was a lot more careful in the future wasn't he?
I read it on Wikipedia, so it must be true.
But "anti-Zionism" is just a way to say "anti-Semitism" in polite company without drawing stares.
No it's not. It's a way of saying "I'm not against the Jews as a people, but the state of Israel is evil."
The average soldier simply has far more self-discipline and self-respect than the average American.
LMAO
How many of those drivers have dynamic recompilation code in them (or even a compiler, for that matter)?
What about NetBSD drivers, which run in userspace and are easily portable between architectures almost seamlessly? There is more than one way to skin a cat, and the Linux developers are being really closed minded with their insistence on changing up the driver ABI all the time. PC technology is certainly mature enough that they can settle on a standard ABI and stick to it, if only there were the political will to do so. Linux's culture is its own worst enemy.
(Actually, I think you've not even compiled a kernel yourself so do us all a favor and hold your opinions, child.)
Enjoy fading into obscurity while the world marches on without you and your precious kernel, pops.
So let me get this straight - you actually think that people will vote for Mitt Romney?
Why do you automatically assume Romney will be the Republican nominee? He does not have enough delegates at this time to secure the nomination on the first round of voting. In fact, a large number of his delegates are suing the GOP as we speak to ensure they have the right to vote for whomever they want, i.e. Ron Paul, who himself currently has a much more sizeable chunk of delegates than the media is reporting.
That is why no other candidate piled on Newt's "lower gas prices" bandwagon.
No, the reason is because Newt was an idiot. It had nothing to do his specific wild claims on gas prices. Witness Cain's temporary immense popularity with his bullshit 9-9-9 "plan." People will believe anything a person says if they like a guy. The problem for Cain of course was his plan was complete bullshit and was quickly exposed as such, which destroyed his credibility.
In Obama's case, he has lied to and ignored the American people time and time again the past four years, and by the time the vote rolls around will have been thoroughly exposed as the fraud and puppet he is. When Ron Paul faces him at the polls in November, he is fucked.
The only way car makers could meet this was to make engines run cooler, and in so doing reduced the efficiency of the engines.
This is bullshit. Cars don't run any "cooler" than they did 30 years ago, that is nonsense. In fact they run hotter in most cases: the average thermostat temp in a modern vehicle is 195* or higher, whereas 30+ years ago they were 180-190* or lower. The average car today is far more efficient and a much better car overall than an average vehicle produced in 1982.
Four cylinder? Even and especially if it's a V6.....feels fucking fantastic having all that power and getting 25-30+ MPG all day long, doesn't it? (Except when you hit the gas of course....lol.)
Mustang SVO owner here, not giving a rat's ass what fuel costs.
What? There's at least as much useful (and reproducible) technology in the drivers as in the hardware. I can pretty much guarantee any open-source drivers would be gone though with a fine-tooth comb for useful information in exactly the fashion that companies purchase and disassemble their competitors products for manufacturing information
I'm one of those types of people who can read all the book theory in the world and maybe still have a hard time understanding what's going on, but when I see a concept in action in actual hardware, and have complete, working source code to play around with and try different things, I could figure anything out.
I personally don't have any particular interest in video cards, but I know there's tons of geeks out there who do, and such a source code release would help them immensely. These people, having gained lots of knowledge and insight from their experimentation and other related studies, would be much better positioned and more confident about going into the business of creating their own state-of-the-art video cards.
I think the video card market could really use some more competitors at this juncture. Things would be a lot healthier if a half dozen companies were to enter the market producing various kinds of video chips, from budget and mobile accelerators to more higher end products, based in part on information learned from NVidia and/or ATI source code.
If NVidia and ATI/AMD truly are confident in having the best engineers, processes, etc, they will surely continue to dominate this market, and they should have no worries. The increased competition would be healthy for both companies and the customers would get better and cheaper accelerators in the bargain. Linux users and enterprises deploying Linux would profit enormously of course.
3D graphics have reached the point where high quality, realistic graphics are becoming commonplace and essential. I guess you could say the market has entered a new phase of growth, where instead of a few key players always one-upping each other on the cutting edge, we now have a situation where the demand for 3D graphics across various markets (gaming, PC, mobile, low end, high end, etc) is too big for the existing companies to completely fulfill. There needs to be new competitors entering the market, and there certainly will be sooner or later.
ATI/Nvidia may have the upper hand at this present moment, but other technological advances, computing in general, simulation and manufacturing capabilities, etc, have caused us to reach a point where much lower end players can now enter the graphics accelerator market and compete successfully. The specific and detailed technical knowledge will leak out sooner or later...so the question to ATI/Nvidia is: which of you wants to be the one to get your foot in the Linux door first?
Which of you wants to be the inspiration to future graphics engineers, who will be influenced by your designs and your way of doing things, who will likely create hardware/software that is more compatible with yours, who will likely open source their own code for you to learn from later down the road, and who will in a way becoming dependent on the knowledge you allow to leave your facility?
Vs the opposite situation of keeping everything a closed and guarded secret, while the knowledge inevitably escapes out anyway, with the resulting new players having been hardened and smartened/toughened up by figuring it all out on their own no thanks to you, and are now true competitors with no loyalty to your company whatsoever?
The choice is yours!
Also, note to Linux kernel developers: pull your heads out of your asses and develop a stable kernel API for drivers, please.
Perhaps you could enlighten us as to where our argument is wrong.
It's the collapse of the European economy. Duh. Back when these forecasts for high oil prices were made, the "experts" were also forecasting all kinds of other B.S., like economic recovery in the Euro zone. Guess what, it didn't happen, and isn't going to happen because the Euro is going to collapse--with massive economic fallout. It's happening now. The reduction in demand due to this catastrophe explains the drop in oil pricing.
The problem is, a) low oil prices are now making certain oil fields too costly to explore, plus b) worldwide supply is now at peak, a future spike in demand is going to send prices skyrocketing. It's only a matter of time.
Teenage unemployment is skyrocketing and yet we have some of the lowest minimum wages (adjusted for inflation) the country has seen
Period.
"Minimum wage" is a modern invention. It's a stupid idea that doesn't work.
Your argument is wrong because you don't take into account the fact that employment levels would increase significantly if the minimum wage requirements were lifted.
But oh noes.....other people's wages would have to decrease accordingly.....including yours!
....But wait! Less taxes could then be deducted from your paycheck, due to decreased drain on the welfare system.......right?
LOL
Of course not. Our Founders understood this. Once government grows, it is very difficult to shrink. When welfare comes out of our personal generosity as free people rather than being taken forcibly out of everyone's pocket, that drain on one's pocket book can increase or decrease as befitting the individual's circumstances. When it's taken forcibly however, the drain is always there regardless. Everyone has a more difficult time making a living whether that is appropriate to their circumstances or not. The employer is taxed and is not able to hire as many people, due to part of his productivity being taken from him, and rerouted to some government program he doesn't agree with and that isn't necessarily in his interest.
The government thus directly causes unemployment through taxation. When minimum wage laws are passed, the only people really affected are the unskilled and entry level workers. There are fewer jobs for them because the total budget available at each company to pay workers doesn't increase just because the State mandates things should be a certain way. This causes even more pressure on the welfare system, and soon the politicians are crying for more funding. The cycle repeats itself.
The effect is, poor people who otherwise could have pulled their weight in a free market, are muscled out by competitors (X number of jobs open, Y number of competitors, you do the math) who then receive a higher wage, which does not necessarily correspond with the wage they are worth, and is much less likely to correspond with said worth than it would under free market conditions.
Government is the problem....not the solution.
A living wage is the minimum amount that someone needs to live on and not be a high risk of financial catastrophe, ether by foreseen events (day to day bills) or unforeseen (medical bill related to things like appendicitis).
LOL. You've done nothing here other than show your own naivete and lack of education about money. That's what any of this "labor exploitation" bullshit always boils down to: the people moaning about slavery are slaves because of their stubborn refusal to learn about money and become its master, not be mastered by it. No, they'd rather bitch about capitalism and "robber barons" and this and that.
Read a book some time, and learn how to live standing on your own two feet, instead of living it up paycheck to paycheck and expecting your employer or Somebody Else to cover all ills that may befall you. Life doesn't work life that.
Seriously, people. Let's get on this.
Wow......just wow.....the level of naivete in your post astounds me. This was a joke, or very clever troll....right?