This type of idiocy appeals to ye typical brainwashed socialist idiot for a reason that's quite simple to understand: most of the retards who support socialism (and its analogues like price and market controls) do so because they are weak, cowardly, low class retards ("the masses") who are literally too stupid to support themselves or live any kind of independent life. None of these people have what it takes to become a billionaire or even a millionaire, unless it be by theft and plunder. They are too stupid, too brainwashed, too weak, too selfish, too god damned incredibly ignorant about the world and how it works. That's why it's easy to convince them that anyone making more than 12x what they do must be a greedy selfish asshole. After all, when they look in the mirror all they see is a greedy selfish asshole, so it's psychologically easy to project that attitude on others.
Personally I am mostly OK with this. The next morning when you see the huge line of cars left behind because the drivers were drunk justifies it to me.
Rational people can understand that there are multiple, legitimate perspectives on the question, and that allows a dialog capable of finding balance among the opposing views.
That's exactly the point. 90% of the fucking costs are due to government intervention at all stages of the system, and dollars being sucked away by rules and regulations and government/insurance company pencil pushers, not because it HAS to be that expensive.
I'm from Alabama, you stupid asshole. Yes my family was in fact here since the 1600s. Every damn one of them was here before the Revolution. Most of them were on the first boat here, some of whom had to sneak on to boats to escape England and other authoritarian shitholes populated by fucking retards and assholes such as yourself. Today there is nowhere left to run, and I'm not inclined to anyhow.
I am not leaving, and I'm not bowing to your God the Federal Government either. Fuck you and your entire family. Either you and your fellow parasites will stop living off my back, or you will die...hopefully in the most horrible and painful way possible. When the shooting starts, I will do everything in my power to make sure that happens for you. Are you willing to fight and kill for Obamacare and Social Security and all your other faggoty social welfare bullshit? Cause I'm perfectly willing to end you and your family's life and all of your friends too, to make sure it's not forced on me, if that's what it takes.
You are full of arrogance, but you're so fucking dumb. That's why you and your fellow vermin continue to heap insult upon insult upon my people, laughing behind your computer screen like there will never be any consequences. Just wait, cumstain. You will die in a fire of your own creation.
We did secede once and we will do so again. You are stupid enough to believe we need you, but we never have and never will. Nobody needs you or your precious tax dollars. Shove them up your ass, you worthless sack of shit.
Do your part to make the world a better place: take a shower in gasoline, and strike a match.
Keep posting. All you're doing is illustrating your stupidity.
Like it or not, you're part of the community of 21st Century North Americans. The overwhelming majority of people in that group do not want
You presume to speak for the people of Alabama? Of Indiana? of Mississippi, of Tennessee, etc? That's exactly why you're a worthless idiot. That's exactly what prompted this tirade to begin with. And still you're too fucking dumb to get it.
The majority of people in America are nothing like you dumb, ignorant slaves living in your urban shitholes, who think you are the masters of everything. In fact we hate you...and this hate grows daily.
This will of course come as a surprise to you, but the overwhelming majority of people in the South, Midwest, etc don't want to be robbed at gunpoint so their money can be used to support people they don't even like. You and your ilk would be an obvious example.
to see starving widows and orphans in the street, a sight which was common before the introduction of Social Security.
Welcome to 2013, where you don't see any of that because the soup lines are digital, even though unemployment is higher than the last Great Depression. Which was also caused and prolonged by government interference with the market.
They want clean water and breathable air and uncontaminated food.
If you want clean water and breathable air, move away from your urban shithole. The Michigan U.P. has clean water and clean air. No government regulation in the world will give you air as clean as we have here.
If you want uncontaminated food, then you're just fucked, because your food is full of poisons. And you'll never know it, because you're too stupid to question your government masters. By design.
They want their shit to disappear down the drain when they flush rather than have to crap behind the bushes, they want their garbage to be taken away rather than pile up in the street, they want bridges over the rivers, they want their streets to be lighted at night, and they want to know that the medicine they're prescribed is pure and has some likelihood of helping them.
Yeah, and I want a pony.
When this clusterfuck that you call "modern civilization" collapses under its own weight, you clueless retards won't have ANY of that. You'll be shitting in the bushes, burning garbage to keep warm, shining lanterns around to see, and dying slowly of gangrene and dysentery. All while contemplating where your next meal is going to come from, since the grocery store is closed and your paper money is useless. Then what? Going to come to my house and rob me, since you're "entitled" to eat? Good luck with that, asshole.
By and large, they want civilization. Civilization costs money. Money needs to be raised through taxes.
Fuck you, fuck your corrupt and backwards "civilization", and mother fuck your taxes. Go rob money from someone else, thief. You are a piece of shit. I hope you die a slow, painful death in a fire. I hope Russia or China drops a nuke on your urban prison and wipes the diseased, festering heap of trash from this earth once and for good, along with all its clueless inmates. Nobody in "flyover country" will shed a tear.
There are still plenty of places where people can go live the heroic go-it-alone mountain man existence. For the rest of us the values of community and the desire to provide a better life for ourselves, our progeny, and others in our community override the greed and self-centered myopia of the few. That's civilization, love it or leave it.
My ancestors have been in this land since the 1600s. They came here to escape from human trash like you. Nowadays there is no place left to go. Guess what mother fucker? I'm not leaving anything. You leave. As in, right fucking now.
The thing is, I **DO** have the balls to say it to his face. By staying anonymous he's ensured that can't possibly happen, making him the coward.
That's cool but guess what....nobody cares!
BTW, haven't you ever drank a cup of coffee in a park, at the bus stop, or any other neutral location? Starbucks isn't the only place to drink coffee.
My point was that "debating" or "discussing" any of this is irrelevant. For example Obamacare, or social security, or any millions of other socialist programs. We could debate/discuss that over a thousand coffees and it would change nothing, because the end result is I still hate you for forcing it on me. Do you not get it? People like me, and the other guy, and a million other people in this country, ARE FUCKING SICK AND TIRED all these socialist garbage being forced on us against our will. You have the balls to say X to Y's face? That's nice. Do you have the balls to go to Y's home and point a gun at him and force him to participate in your idiotic socialist schemes, and/or kill him? Cause that's exactly what it's coming down to. Wake up and look around. The next American revolution is just around the corner, and it's gonna be ugly.
Fuck you and your faggoty Seattle coffee shop. What makes you think the other guy is interesting in debating you? What makes you think YOU have any ideas that he cares to even hear? Apparently you're not LISTENING very well, are you?
Did it ever occur to you that nobody reads your posts because of all the random bolding scattered here and there and everywhere along with all the symbols *** and other => noise you always feel compelled to insert at odd intervals? How about stripping out all that fucking bullshit and stating your thoughts plainly and clearly, so that at least 1 out of 100 slashdotters will actually care to read through it?
I'm using Chrome right now, only because it's the least shitty web browser. These stupid mother fuckers at Google have already pissed me off by removing the vertical tabs feature for no good reason, and also taking it upon themselves to automatically update the browser without my permission and with no way to disable it. And now they want to control what extensions I get to use, too?
FUCK YOU Google. I hope each and every one of you worthless pieces of shit dies in a fire. I will use Lynx before I ever use Chrome or any other Google product ever again.
There are no selfmade millionaires. If you look closely, they either had large teams of people at their hands, or a chain of chance played into their hands.
Right. Explain Henry Ford.
And the big railroad barons of the second half of the 19th century never would have been that big without the U.S. government financing and pre-planning the big railroad tracks and protecting the building sites with the cavalry.
Bullshit. Go look up the "Great Northern Railroad"....then go hang yourself.
Just because the U.S. government started going off the rails with its big government bullshit back in the 1860s and later (thanks to Lincoln) doesn't mean that is the only way to do things.
The archetypes of Dagny Taggart were free-riding on government subsidaries.
And that's what you tell yourself, to soothe your ego, because otherwise you would forced to confront the fact that you are a failure....and will never be anything else, because you're counting on "luck" and "other people helping you" to become great. When was the last railroad or automobile manufacturer YOU created asshole? That's right--you didn't build that and never will.
The people who work at these agencies would probably remind you that without all this surveillance, you'd be hiding under your bed waiting for the next terror attack or IED.
No I wouldn't. Only a fucking cowardly slave would do that. Look in the mirror.
Democracy would be on the evening news every night waving a flag over the bodies of its adherents while its opponents marched in the streets, celebrating victory after victory.
Stop watching mainstream media, you brainwashed retard.
People forget that we do have enemies;
Yes we do. Look in the mirror.
There is more than one way to organize a society, and a lot of people feel like the best way to deal with a society different than your own, is to advocate, encourage, and even practice violence against them "so they know their place." Are the threats as big as they say? Are the sacrifices we've made to keep those threats at bay worth it? I don't know. But don't you dare get on a soap box and preach about "true democracy" without answering the question: How do we protect it?
This isn't a democracy, you uneducated idiot.
You do not just get to handwave away the threats. You have to answer them -- even if it's just to say "Then that is the price we will pay." It's okay to say everything they're doing is wrong; Afterall, this is a democracy right? But if you won't suggest an alternative, then you don't really care about democracy. You just want to rage against "the man" and be a rebel without a cause. You want to feel righteous, but without all that hard work of enduring tensions, making compromises, and reasoning out not what's best for you -- but what's best for an entire country.
Your problem is that you're so fucking brain dead stupid you actually believe you can "figure out what's best for an entire country." That's why you apologize for fascism, like the useful idiot you are.
And if you do that, then I have no respect for you. You want to bitch about the NSA? Okay, fine. I grant you that. But what's your alternative? Put something on the table for the rest of us to discuss, or give up your chair for someone who's willing to not just talk about democracy, but sit down and actually do it.
I got a better idea: how bout I put a bullet in your fucking brain so I no longer have to worry about you coming into my god damned life and trying to push me around and tell me what to do, you authoritarian piece of shit?
I've read a lot of your posts on this site and best I can figure, you are one of the dumbest loud mouths I've ever seen. You want to save the world? OK. Do us all a favor and pour a couple gallons of gasoline on yourself and strike a match.
I would argue that you weren't a Libertarian in the first place if you are going to be influenced by the hard right views of your "friends". Libertarians are socially liberal fiscally conservative.
A nonsense definition if there ever was one, since the words "liberal" and "conservative" these days are meaningless.
Libertarians are socially liberal fiscally conservative. We have no problem with universal healthcare, provided we as a nation can afford it. We currently cannot
No, dumb ass, just no.
Really, you think a nigger in Alabama should be forced at gunpoint to pay for some cracker's heart surgery? Or vice versa? That's called slavery, you stupid fuck. "Slavery" is not compatible with liberty. Do you not see that government is a source of slavery, not liberty?
And what makes you think said nigger, or said cracker, should be entitled to have a say in the other's health care? That's exactly what you are doing with this "universal health care" BULLSHIT.
The sad thing is, that if we had members of congress with some backbone (Ha, right) we could address this within 10-20 years.
You really believe we have "10 to 20 years" before this country implodes?
I personally love the sequester because for once congress is forced to do some actual cuts, not cuts in name only.
Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
We can get to balanced within 5 years and retire the debt in its entirety in 15 if we had some representatives in congress with some courage and conviction.
If....if....if. Reminds me of Alexander Solzhenitsyn's writings. You are delusional if you believe this government can be reformed.
Then we could easily pay for the finest universal heathcare system on the planet and we could do it right instead of this mess we have now
Who is this "we" you are referring to? I am not paying for or buying in to your insurance racket. Pull your head out of your ass before it's too late for you.
which has become the biggest joke I have seen come out of Washington in my lifetime. That is saying something considering I can remember back to Nixon.
Our country started down its present road to destruction the day the Constitution was ratified; the original Republic was destroyed by the Civil War. By the time of Nixon is was only a remnant of its former self. If you're that old and you're not seeing the big picture by now, there is no help left for you.
You know that your redneck in Alabama doesn't actually have to buy health insurance, right? If he's poor enough he can pay nothing.
And what makes you think that is acceptable, you stupid fuck?
If the cheapest plan would be over a certain percentage of his income, he can pay nothing. If he just doesn't feel like paying for it he can instead pay a fee. If he doesn't feel like paying a fee then he can pay nothing and the worst that happens is they take the fee out of his income tax return. If he really wants to he can do his taxes in a way that he won't get an income tax return and lose nothing.
So that's OK then in your book? What kind of pathetic "reasoning" will you come up with to excuse it when the "law" is "changed" so it's no longer legal to "opt out"? When people are arrested and fined and jailed for not signing up?
Though, honestly, if you look at the rates they are rather reasonable even for lower and middle income people. They're pretty high for people that are well off but I don't think Mr. Alabama redneck is in that group.
That's because you're a brain dead fuck, who is too stupid to live.
Do I need to break it down in intricate detail exactly why you are a dumb fuck?
Because I am from Alabama, you stupid fucker, and my Facebook wall is filled full of people bitching and moaning about their insurance rates going up due to Obamacare.
"You don't think...." EXACTLY YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM, YOU STUPID ASSHOLE.
I'm honestly more in favor of a single-payer system but I'm all for giving the ACA the benefit of the doubt. It's not like it can't be changed if it turns out that it just doesn't work.
"If it turns out it doesn't work." What a piece of shit slave you are, unworthy to reside in a free country. It DOES NOT work, as anyone with an IQ over 90 and/or a 101 level of economics could have told you. The people of Alabama and other places WILL FUCKING NOT put up with this.
Do yourself a favor, and hang yourself. It will be better for everyone this way.
Getting a degree can also demonstrate that one might be able to do whatever busywork a job requires to be successful.
There is no such thing as "busywork required to be successful." If you are doing "busywork", you are doing bullshit, not what is actually required to be successful.
Obamacare is an atrocity. The people of Alabama don't want it. The people of Mississippi, of Texas, of Iowa, of Montana, of Wyoming, Michigan, and Tennessee don't fucking want it. The fact that you are defending the abomination that is Obamacare, says all that needs to be said about you and your beliefs. Wake up and pull your head out of your fucking ass, before it's too late. I will fight and kill to ensure my right to be free from Obamacare. Are you ready to fight and kill to force it on me?
Pull your head out of your fucking ass. I don't want a dictatorship you stupid asshole. By educating morons such as yourself, that is exactly what I'm working to prevent. Look around you. What makes you think a redneck in Alabama should be forced at the point of a gun to buy into a scam (health insurance) just because King Obama says so? Do Not Want. WAKE THE FUCK UP.
Nobody said it was, dipshit. But that is exactly what is happening at this very moment as we speak.
That's why the DSM 5 manual was recently released to protest from mental health professionals, because it redefines everything so vaguely that anyone could be declared mentally ill according to its wording.
That's also why the "mentally ill" has become such a big cog in the gun control "debate"...because the same rabid pro-gun fanatics who would blow someone's head off with a shotgun before letting anyone grab their guns, and would heartily oppose any gun control effort from any direction it might come......will gleefully cheer like the useful idiots they are when anyone suggests that the "mentally ill" should be locked up. They are too stupid to see how the term "mentally ill" can easily be (and WILL be) applied to them, too.
Whether you recognize the pattern or not, a pattern exists: and the pattern is, the U.S. Government is going to come after the "mentally ill"--me and anyone else who loudly and angrily disagrees with their fucked up Nazi ideology, and put us in a FEMA camp...."for our own good" of course.
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do learn from history, are doomed to watch everyone else repeating it.
If not by polls, how do you suggest we figure out what the majority wants?
I don't.
Democracy is essentially a poll on a massive scale, so I guess you just threw that out the window. Should we just have an All-Knowing Emperor tell us what we want?
That's exactly the route you're pushing our country towards.
This country is NOT a fucking democracy, though many clueless idiots in America certainly want that.
This is a Republic, full of free people who have the God given right to throw off any government which has been forced on them against their will.
If you think that just because an opinion seems the logical one to you that means it's the best one and/or the one supported by the majority then you are the, quote, gullible idiot.
If you think that the people of Alabama support Obamacare, or that the people of Mississippi or Michigan or Tennessee or Iowa support it, you are a gullible idiot. Try walking outside whatever socialist urban shithole you live in and experience the real America for once in your life.
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This type of idiocy appeals to ye typical brainwashed socialist idiot for a reason that's quite simple to understand: most of the retards who support socialism (and its analogues like price and market controls) do so because they are weak, cowardly, low class retards ("the masses") who are literally too stupid to support themselves or live any kind of independent life. None of these people have what it takes to become a billionaire or even a millionaire, unless it be by theft and plunder. They are too stupid, too brainwashed, too weak, too selfish, too god damned incredibly ignorant about the world and how it works. That's why it's easy to convince them that anyone making more than 12x what they do must be a greedy selfish asshole. After all, when they look in the mirror all they see is a greedy selfish asshole, so it's psychologically easy to project that attitude on others.
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People like you tend to forget that a drivers licence is a privilege, not a right.
Wrong, asshole. Driving is a right. Period. End of discussion.
Personally I am mostly OK with this. The next morning when you see the huge line of cars left behind because the drivers were drunk justifies it to me.
You are a slave.
Rational people can understand that there are multiple, legitimate perspectives on the question, and that allows a dialog capable of finding balance among the opposing views.
That isn't rationality. That's idiocy.
That's exactly the point. 90% of the fucking costs are due to government intervention at all stages of the system, and dollars being sucked away by rules and regulations and government/insurance company pencil pushers, not because it HAS to be that expensive.
I'm from Alabama, you stupid asshole. Yes my family was in fact here since the 1600s. Every damn one of them was here before the Revolution. Most of them were on the first boat here, some of whom had to sneak on to boats to escape England and other authoritarian shitholes populated by fucking retards and assholes such as yourself. Today there is nowhere left to run, and I'm not inclined to anyhow.
I am not leaving, and I'm not bowing to your God the Federal Government either. Fuck you and your entire family. Either you and your fellow parasites will stop living off my back, or you will die...hopefully in the most horrible and painful way possible. When the shooting starts, I will do everything in my power to make sure that happens for you. Are you willing to fight and kill for Obamacare and Social Security and all your other faggoty social welfare bullshit? Cause I'm perfectly willing to end you and your family's life and all of your friends too, to make sure it's not forced on me, if that's what it takes.
You are full of arrogance, but you're so fucking dumb. That's why you and your fellow vermin continue to heap insult upon insult upon my people, laughing behind your computer screen like there will never be any consequences. Just wait, cumstain. You will die in a fire of your own creation.
We did secede once and we will do so again. You are stupid enough to believe we need you, but we never have and never will. Nobody needs you or your precious tax dollars. Shove them up your ass, you worthless sack of shit.
Do your part to make the world a better place: take a shower in gasoline, and strike a match.
Keep posting. All you're doing is illustrating your stupidity.
Like it or not, you're part of the community of 21st Century North Americans. The overwhelming majority of people in that group do not want
You presume to speak for the people of Alabama? Of Indiana? of Mississippi, of Tennessee, etc? That's exactly why you're a worthless idiot. That's exactly what prompted this tirade to begin with. And still you're too fucking dumb to get it.
The majority of people in America are nothing like you dumb, ignorant slaves living in your urban shitholes, who think you are the masters of everything. In fact we hate you...and this hate grows daily.
This will of course come as a surprise to you, but the overwhelming majority of people in the South, Midwest, etc don't want to be robbed at gunpoint so their money can be used to support people they don't even like. You and your ilk would be an obvious example.
to see starving widows and orphans in the street, a sight which was common before the introduction of Social Security.
Welcome to 2013, where you don't see any of that because the soup lines are digital, even though unemployment is higher than the last Great Depression. Which was also caused and prolonged by government interference with the market.
They want clean water and breathable air and uncontaminated food.
If you want clean water and breathable air, move away from your urban shithole. The Michigan U.P. has clean water and clean air. No government regulation in the world will give you air as clean as we have here.
If you want uncontaminated food, then you're just fucked, because your food is full of poisons. And you'll never know it, because you're too stupid to question your government masters. By design.
They want their shit to disappear down the drain when they flush rather than have to crap behind the bushes, they want their garbage to be taken away rather than pile up in the street, they want bridges over the rivers, they want their streets to be lighted at night, and they want to know that the medicine they're prescribed is pure and has some likelihood of helping them.
Yeah, and I want a pony.
When this clusterfuck that you call "modern civilization" collapses under its own weight, you clueless retards won't have ANY of that. You'll be shitting in the bushes, burning garbage to keep warm, shining lanterns around to see, and dying slowly of gangrene and dysentery. All while contemplating where your next meal is going to come from, since the grocery store is closed and your paper money is useless. Then what? Going to come to my house and rob me, since you're "entitled" to eat? Good luck with that, asshole.
By and large, they want civilization. Civilization costs money. Money needs to be raised through taxes.
Fuck you, fuck your corrupt and backwards "civilization", and mother fuck your taxes. Go rob money from someone else, thief. You are a piece of shit. I hope you die a slow, painful death in a fire. I hope Russia or China drops a nuke on your urban prison and wipes the diseased, festering heap of trash from this earth once and for good, along with all its clueless inmates. Nobody in "flyover country" will shed a tear.
There are still plenty of places where people can go live the heroic go-it-alone mountain man existence. For the rest of us the values of community and the desire to provide a better life for ourselves, our progeny, and others in our community override the greed and self-centered myopia of the few. That's civilization, love it or leave it.
My ancestors have been in this land since the 1600s. They came here to escape from human trash like you. Nowadays there is no place left to go. Guess what mother fucker? I'm not leaving anything. You leave. As in, right fucking now.
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The thing is, I **DO** have the balls to say it to his face. By staying anonymous he's ensured that can't possibly happen, making him the coward.
That's cool but guess what....nobody cares!
BTW, haven't you ever drank a cup of coffee in a park, at the bus stop, or any other neutral location? Starbucks isn't the only place to drink coffee.
My point was that "debating" or "discussing" any of this is irrelevant. For example Obamacare, or social security, or any millions of other socialist programs. We could debate/discuss that over a thousand coffees and it would change nothing, because the end result is I still hate you for forcing it on me. Do you not get it? People like me, and the other guy, and a million other people in this country, ARE FUCKING SICK AND TIRED all these socialist garbage being forced on us against our will. You have the balls to say X to Y's face? That's nice. Do you have the balls to go to Y's home and point a gun at him and force him to participate in your idiotic socialist schemes, and/or kill him? Cause that's exactly what it's coming down to. Wake up and look around. The next American revolution is just around the corner, and it's gonna be ugly.
Fuck you and your faggoty Seattle coffee shop. What makes you think the other guy is interesting in debating you? What makes you think YOU have any ideas that he cares to even hear? Apparently you're not LISTENING very well, are you?
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So you like the hosts file. GREAT! We're SO happy for you! Why the fuck do you have to post this same bullshit OVER AND OVER AND OVER AND OVER again?
Are you still talking?
I'm not going to waste my time attempting to parse that jumbled mess of garbage.
Did it ever occur to you that nobody reads your posts because of all the random bolding scattered here and there and everywhere along with all the symbols *** and other => noise you always feel compelled to insert at odd intervals? How about stripping out all that fucking bullshit and stating your thoughts plainly and clearly, so that at least 1 out of 100 slashdotters will actually care to read through it?
I'm using Chrome right now, only because it's the least shitty web browser. These stupid mother fuckers at Google have already pissed me off by removing the vertical tabs feature for no good reason, and also taking it upon themselves to automatically update the browser without my permission and with no way to disable it. And now they want to control what extensions I get to use, too?
FUCK YOU Google. I hope each and every one of you worthless pieces of shit dies in a fire. I will use Lynx before I ever use Chrome or any other Google product ever again.
There are no selfmade millionaires. If you look closely, they either had large teams of people at their hands, or a chain of chance played into their hands.
Right. Explain Henry Ford.
And the big railroad barons of the second half of the 19th century never would have been that big without the U.S. government financing and pre-planning the big railroad tracks and protecting the building sites with the cavalry.
Bullshit. Go look up the "Great Northern Railroad"....then go hang yourself.
Just because the U.S. government started going off the rails with its big government bullshit back in the 1860s and later (thanks to Lincoln) doesn't mean that is the only way to do things.
The archetypes of Dagny Taggart were free-riding on government subsidaries.
And that's what you tell yourself, to soothe your ego, because otherwise you would forced to confront the fact that you are a failure....and will never be anything else, because you're counting on "luck" and "other people helping you" to become great. When was the last railroad or automobile manufacturer YOU created asshole? That's right--you didn't build that and never will.
The people who work at these agencies would probably remind you that without all this surveillance, you'd be hiding under your bed waiting for the next terror attack or IED.
No I wouldn't. Only a fucking cowardly slave would do that. Look in the mirror.
Democracy would be on the evening news every night waving a flag over the bodies of its adherents while its opponents marched in the streets, celebrating victory after victory.
Stop watching mainstream media, you brainwashed retard.
People forget that we do have enemies;
Yes we do. Look in the mirror.
There is more than one way to organize a society, and a lot of people feel like the best way to deal with a society different than your own, is to advocate, encourage, and even practice violence against them "so they know their place." Are the threats as big as they say? Are the sacrifices we've made to keep those threats at bay worth it? I don't know. But don't you dare get on a soap box and preach about "true democracy" without answering the question: How do we protect it?
This isn't a democracy, you uneducated idiot.
You do not just get to handwave away the threats. You have to answer them -- even if it's just to say "Then that is the price we will pay." It's okay to say everything they're doing is wrong; Afterall, this is a democracy right? But if you won't suggest an alternative, then you don't really care about democracy. You just want to rage against "the man" and be a rebel without a cause. You want to feel righteous, but without all that hard work of enduring tensions, making compromises, and reasoning out not what's best for you -- but what's best for an entire country.
Your problem is that you're so fucking brain dead stupid you actually believe you can "figure out what's best for an entire country." That's why you apologize for fascism, like the useful idiot you are.
And if you do that, then I have no respect for you. You want to bitch about the NSA? Okay, fine. I grant you that. But what's your alternative? Put something on the table for the rest of us to discuss, or give up your chair for someone who's willing to not just talk about democracy, but sit down and actually do it.
I got a better idea: how bout I put a bullet in your fucking brain so I no longer have to worry about you coming into my god damned life and trying to push me around and tell me what to do, you authoritarian piece of shit?
I've read a lot of your posts on this site and best I can figure, you are one of the dumbest loud mouths I've ever seen. You want to save the world? OK. Do us all a favor and pour a couple gallons of gasoline on yourself and strike a match.
With all due respect (i.e. none), nobody gives a shit.
I would argue that you weren't a Libertarian in the first place if you are going to be influenced by the hard right views of your "friends". Libertarians are socially liberal fiscally conservative.
A nonsense definition if there ever was one, since the words "liberal" and "conservative" these days are meaningless.
Libertarians are socially liberal fiscally conservative. We have no problem with universal healthcare, provided we as a nation can afford it. We currently cannot
No, dumb ass, just no.
Really, you think a nigger in Alabama should be forced at gunpoint to pay for some cracker's heart surgery? Or vice versa? That's called slavery, you stupid fuck. "Slavery" is not compatible with liberty. Do you not see that government is a source of slavery, not liberty?
And what makes you think said nigger, or said cracker, should be entitled to have a say in the other's health care? That's exactly what you are doing with this "universal health care" BULLSHIT.
The sad thing is, that if we had members of congress with some backbone (Ha, right) we could address this within 10-20 years.
You really believe we have "10 to 20 years" before this country implodes?
I personally love the sequester because for once congress is forced to do some actual cuts, not cuts in name only.
Rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
We can get to balanced within 5 years and retire the debt in its entirety in 15 if we had some representatives in congress with some courage and conviction.
If....if....if. Reminds me of Alexander Solzhenitsyn's writings. You are delusional if you believe this government can be reformed.
Then we could easily pay for the finest universal heathcare system on the planet and we could do it right instead of this mess we have now
Who is this "we" you are referring to? I am not paying for or buying in to your insurance racket. Pull your head out of your ass before it's too late for you.
which has become the biggest joke I have seen come out of Washington in my lifetime. That is saying something considering I can remember back to Nixon.
Our country started down its present road to destruction the day the Constitution was ratified; the original Republic was destroyed by the Civil War. By the time of Nixon is was only a remnant of its former self. If you're that old and you're not seeing the big picture by now, there is no help left for you.
You know that your redneck in Alabama doesn't actually have to buy health insurance, right?
If he's poor enough he can pay nothing.
And what makes you think that is acceptable, you stupid fuck?
If the cheapest plan would be over a certain percentage of his income, he can pay nothing.
If he just doesn't feel like paying for it he can instead pay a fee.
If he doesn't feel like paying a fee then he can pay nothing and the worst that happens is they take the fee out of his income tax return.
If he really wants to he can do his taxes in a way that he won't get an income tax return and lose nothing.
So that's OK then in your book? What kind of pathetic "reasoning" will you come up with to excuse it when the "law" is "changed" so it's no longer legal to "opt out"? When people are arrested and fined and jailed for not signing up?
Though, honestly, if you look at the rates they are rather reasonable even for lower and middle income people. They're pretty high for people that are well off but I don't think Mr. Alabama redneck is in that group.
That's because you're a brain dead fuck, who is too stupid to live.
Do I need to break it down in intricate detail exactly why you are a dumb fuck?
Because I am from Alabama, you stupid fucker, and my Facebook wall is filled full of people bitching and moaning about their insurance rates going up due to Obamacare.
"You don't think...." EXACTLY YOUR FUCKING PROBLEM, YOU STUPID ASSHOLE.
I'm honestly more in favor of a single-payer system but I'm all for giving the ACA the benefit of the doubt. It's not like it can't be changed if it turns out that it just doesn't work.
"If it turns out it doesn't work." What a piece of shit slave you are, unworthy to reside in a free country. It DOES NOT work, as anyone with an IQ over 90 and/or a 101 level of economics could have told you. The people of Alabama and other places WILL FUCKING NOT put up with this.
Do yourself a favor, and hang yourself. It will be better for everyone this way.
Getting a degree can also demonstrate that one might be able to do whatever busywork a job requires to be successful.
There is no such thing as "busywork required to be successful." If you are doing "busywork", you are doing bullshit, not what is actually required to be successful.
Obamacare is an atrocity. The people of Alabama don't want it. The people of Mississippi, of Texas, of Iowa, of Montana, of Wyoming, Michigan, and Tennessee don't fucking want it. The fact that you are defending the abomination that is Obamacare, says all that needs to be said about you and your beliefs. Wake up and pull your head out of your fucking ass, before it's too late. I will fight and kill to ensure my right to be free from Obamacare. Are you ready to fight and kill to force it on me?
Pull your head out of your fucking ass. I don't want a dictatorship you stupid asshole. By educating morons such as yourself, that is exactly what I'm working to prevent. Look around you. What makes you think a redneck in Alabama should be forced at the point of a gun to buy into a scam (health insurance) just because King Obama says so? Do Not Want. WAKE THE FUCK UP.
Nobody said it was, dipshit. But that is exactly what is happening at this very moment as we speak.
That's why the DSM 5 manual was recently released to protest from mental health professionals, because it redefines everything so vaguely that anyone could be declared mentally ill according to its wording.
That's also why the "mentally ill" has become such a big cog in the gun control "debate"...because the same rabid pro-gun fanatics who would blow someone's head off with a shotgun before letting anyone grab their guns, and would heartily oppose any gun control effort from any direction it might come......will gleefully cheer like the useful idiots they are when anyone suggests that the "mentally ill" should be locked up. They are too stupid to see how the term "mentally ill" can easily be (and WILL be) applied to them, too.
Whether you recognize the pattern or not, a pattern exists: and the pattern is, the U.S. Government is going to come after the "mentally ill"--me and anyone else who loudly and angrily disagrees with their fucked up Nazi ideology, and put us in a FEMA camp...."for our own good" of course.
Those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
Those who do learn from history, are doomed to watch everyone else repeating it.
If not by polls, how do you suggest we figure out what the majority wants?
I don't.
Democracy is essentially a poll on a massive scale, so I guess you just threw that out the window. Should we just have an All-Knowing Emperor tell us what we want?
That's exactly the route you're pushing our country towards.
This country is NOT a fucking democracy, though many clueless idiots in America certainly want that.
This is a Republic, full of free people who have the God given right to throw off any government which has been forced on them against their will.
If you think that just because an opinion seems the logical one to you that means it's the best one and/or the one supported by the majority then you are the, quote, gullible idiot.
If you think that the people of Alabama support Obamacare, or that the people of Mississippi or Michigan or Tennessee or Iowa support it, you are a gullible idiot. Try walking outside whatever socialist urban shithole you live in and experience the real America for once in your life.