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Google To Block Local Chrome Extensions On Windows Starting In January

An anonymous reader writes "Google today announced it will block local Chrome extensions starting in January, but only on the Windows platform. This means that next year, Windows users will only be able to install extensions for the company's browser from the Chrome Web Store. The changes will affect both Chrome's stable and beta channels on Windows. Google says it will continue to support local extension installs on its Dev and Canary channels, as well as installs via Enterprise policy. Chrome apps are not affected at all and will continue to be supported normally."

260 comments

  1. LastPass by jupiterssj4 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I know that LastPass has a web app, but the local app has for more options. Hope they get this updated before January!

    1. Re:LastPass by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can install LastPass from Chrome extensions site (that's how I've always installed it), so this doesn't concern LastPass.

    2. Re:LastPass by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

      LastPass provides an all-in-one installer though, so you can add it to all your browsers in one go. Then again, it may just launch Chrome directly to the relevant Extensions page; can't remember, as it's been ages since I last installed it.

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    3. Re:LastPass by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Open ALWAYS wins!

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    4. Re:LastPass by TheRealLifeboy · · Score: 1

      So opt to run Chromium rather than Chrome?

  2. Or, of course extensions that google doesn't like. by queazocotal · · Score: 5, Insightful

    For example, YouTube downloaders-

  3. I stopped using Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I stopped using Chrome because it's extensions were not up to par with Firefox addons.
    And now I feel less inclined to use Chrome at all.

    1. Re:I stopped using Chrome by ebno-10db · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I stopped using Chrome because it's extensions were not up to par with Firefox addons.
      And now I feel less inclined to use Chrome at all.

      Ditto. What does Google hope to accomplish with this? Switching to Firefox takes less than 5 minutes.

    2. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ditto. What does Google hope to accomplish with this? Switching to Firefox takes less than 5 minutes.

      Avoid the crapware pc distributors love to add?

    3. Re:I stopped using Chrome by viking099 · · Score: 1

      Don't forget who provides a big chunk of funding to the Mozilla folks.

      I don't think it'll be a huge surprise if their checkbook gets a little harder to open if at some point in the future the Mozilla folks don't work on a similar plan.

    4. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Mozilla Corporation...The majority of the revenues comes from Google Inc., which is the default search engine on Mozilla Firefox." Maybe firefox will introduce something similar for blocking youtube downloaders, adblock, etc.

    5. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Lee_Dailey · · Score: 4, Interesting

      howdy y'all,

      the google folks are aware of the upcoming "australis" abomination and are not worried about firefox at all. [*sigh ...*]

      the firefox devs are crippling the addon system, crippling the customization system, removing the addon bar/status bar, blocking putting icons anywhere other than on the navigation toolbar, and generally ripping out the things that make firefox so completely customizable.

      all this in the name of "simplicity" and "making customization more accessible to more users".

      actually, it's being done in the name of stripping out things they don't like to maintain while still adding all that developer tools stuff that otta be in an extension.

      i suspect that i will switch to seamonkey when australis comes out on firefox.

      take care,
      lee

    6. Re:I stopped using Chrome by ebno-10db · · Score: 1

      Good point, but if push came to shove, could Mozilla get funding from other companies? LG, Samsung, Qualcomm, etc. like their stuff, could fund development out of pocket change, and don't want to get locked in by anybody.

    7. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Frankly I'm surprised that the Mozilla Foundation hasn't been preparing to ditch Google since they threw them under the bus by making Chrome in the first place, after brokering a deal with Mozilla to make Google the default search for Firefox. Unfortunately their lack of funding options means that they're still joined at the hip from now into the foreseeable future.

    8. Re:I stopped using Chrome by jeffmflanagan · · Score: 1

      Usually I get mildly annoyed when people sign their posts, since it's not normally done and I'm obviously inappropriately uptight about a silly little thing, but yours with the "take care", rather than just a name, is just plain nice.

    9. Re:I stopped using Chrome by TubeSteak · · Score: 1

      the google folks are aware of the upcoming "australis" abomination and are not worried about firefox at all. [*sigh ...*]

      I bet FireFox updates its Extended Support Release to whatever version is right before "australis"
      No way will institutional FF users want to deal with a new interface and subsystem.

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    10. Re:I stopped using Chrome by linatux · · Score: 1

      and if Google apps stop working on Firefox you'll switch to Office365?

    11. Re:I stopped using Chrome by SleepyHappyDoc · · Score: 4, Funny

      Switching to Firefox takes less than 5 minutes.

      Yes, every time it starts up.

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    12. Re:I stopped using Chrome by realityimpaired · · Score: 1

      How's Pepper support on Firefox coming?

      Until the Web at large pulls its head out of its collective ass, and gives up on Flash completely in favour of HTML5, you're at a significant disadvantage for certain types of media/content. With Flash support deprecated on Linux, and only getting security updates at this point, it's only a matter of time before Chrome becomes the only way to view Flash content on that platform, unless Firefox (and other browsers) decides to support Pepper.

      Fortunately, Linux isn't included in this particular announcement, but how long until they decide it's a good idea and extend it to Linux and Mac?

    13. Re:I stopped using Chrome by X0563511 · · Score: 0

      From your own link, dipshit: "The Mozilla Foundation is a non-profit organization"

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    14. Re:I stopped using Chrome by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      Kazehakase is always an option :P

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    15. Re:I stopped using Chrome by TWiTfan · · Score: 1

      Frankly I'm surprised that the Mozilla Foundation hasn't been preparing to ditch Google since they threw them under the bus by making Chrome in the first place

      And replace them with who? Google provides something like 90% of their revenue.

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    16. Re:I stopped using Chrome by spasm · · Score: 1

      I stopped using chrome when google started getting *creepy* about trying to get you to link your youtube and other accounts to each other. Now I'm slowly migrating each thing I use google for to other providers or to my own servers (each service to a different provider, so if one of them turns out to be particularly inept or Evil I only have one thing to get out of their clutches). In 1997 I started using google for search; well before 2017 I'd like to be able to say that's the only thing I use them for.

    17. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Guspaz · · Score: 2

      Google provides something like 90% of Mozilla's revenue because they slightly outbid Microsoft and Yahoo for the contract. If Microsoft or Yahoo outbid Google when the current contract expires in November 2014, then Google won't be providing 90% of their revenue anymore.

      It's worth pointing out that Google is paying three times more ($300 million per year) for their current contract than their last one, because Microsoft and Yahoo bid so aggressively, so it's not like there isn't a large demand for Mozilla's ad space.

    18. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Guspaz · · Score: 2

      Mozilla only gets funding from Google because Google slightly outbid Microsoft and Yahoo.

    19. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the US, non-profit status has nothing at all to do with making a profit, and everything to do with the distribution of profits.

    20. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Lonewolf666 · · Score: 1

      and if Google apps stop working on Firefox you'll switch to Office365?

      Already preferring LibreOffice ;-)
      Yes, it is not online but I consider that an advantage. Keeping your stuff in the cloud just increases the risk of losing it. Cloud vendors sometimes go offline...

      Of course you can keep local backups, but if you maintain local storage anyway, why not add a local installation of an office suite?

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    21. Re:I stopped using Chrome by caspy7 · · Score: 1

      Why does everyone assume that Google is the only game in town for funding Firefox?
      Firefox has 1 out of 5 users on the internet. If Google lost Firefox it would be significant. They really wouldn't want to lose it.
      Microsoft would love to have Firefox's default search area (and love taking it from Google) and they've repeatedly demonstrated their ability and desire to throw gobs of money at a product until it succeeds (or clearly fails beyond redemption) - and Bing is one of those products.
      It seems like few people made the connection when Microsoft partnered with Mozilla to release a version of Firefox "powered by Bing search". Just a month or so later Mozilla announced their three year, $900 million search deal with Google. It seems clear that Mozilla either just before, or during, negotiations with Google demonstrated their ability to pull the trigger with Microsoft.
      Google does not want to lose Firefox, but further would hate to lose it to MS. Either way, even if they did, Mozilla would not go hungry.

    22. Re:I stopped using Chrome by mmmXIII · · Score: 2

      Financing[edit] The Mozilla Foundation is funded by donations and "search royalties". Since 2005, the vast majority of funds have come from Google Inc. Initial funding in 2003 came from AOL, who donated US$2 million, and from Mitch Kapor who donated US$300,000. The group has tax-exempt status under section 501(c)(3) of the U.S. tax code, though the Mozilla Corporation subsidiary is taxable. In 2006, the Mozilla Foundation received US$66.8 million in revenues, of which US$61.5 million is attributed to "search royalties" from Google.[9] The foundation has an ongoing deal with Google to make Google search the default in the Firefox browser search bar and hence send it search referrals; a Firefox themed Google search site has also been made the default home page of Firefox. The original contract expired in November 2006. However, Google renewed the contract until November 2008 and again through 2011.[10] On 20 December 2011 Mozilla announced that the contract was once again renewed for at least three years to November 2014, at three times the amount previously paid, or nearly US$300 million annually.[11][12] Approximately 85% of Mozilla’s revenue for 2006 was derived from this contract.

    23. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I stopped using firefox because it was a slow bloated 32bit POS that leaked memory like crazy. Granted my usage habbits may not be the norm, but it was annoying to walk away from my computer wih 25 tabs open only to return in an hour to a browser sucking down close to 4gigs of ram and a pc that ran like shit.

      Plus it seemed to want to update every other day which would seem to want to break everything.

      I my be moving back now.

    24. Re:I stopped using Chrome by RobertinXinyang · · Score: 1

      Same here. This is also the reason I stopped using Safari. Recently I changed the computer in my office and I put all three on the dock: Firefox, Chrome, and Safari. I then waited a few weeks and then considered which I was using. I was using Firefox.

      The plugins I use are just not available for the ther two (I play a game called Pardus ony Firefox has any usefull plugins for it).

    25. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google and Adobe got together and said "forget NPAPI, let's just support Pepper, which is only available in Chrome, and stop supporting everything else over a year or two".

      Mozilla said, "let's just reimplement Flash as Shumway, using standards-based HTML5 tech that everyone already supports."

      I know which team I'm rooting for, and it's not the ones trying to shove their APIs down other people's throats.

    26. Re:I stopped using Chrome by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 1

      Hence the dream of Firefox OS as an alternative funding model.

      All that 'useless stuff no one would ever need in a desktop browser, why would you ever code something like that in JS' type functionality we see in the firefox builds is to support writing phone apps, with the goal of securing funding from the telcos of Brazil and other emerging markets.

    27. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Ungrounded+Lightning · · Score: 1

      I stopped using Chrome because it's extensions were not up to par with Firefox addons.
      And now I feel less inclined to use Chrome at all.

      Ditto. What does Google hope to accomplish with this? Switching to Firefox takes less than 5 minutes.

      I stopped using Chrome because they kept forcing updates that changed the interface, without asking for permission or providing a reverse-compatibility option.

      The last straw for me was when they deleted the ability to purge entries from the suggestion pop-down in the address bar without completely purging the browsing history, shortly before I typoed up a not-safe-for-work URL. I'm now back on Firefox evan at my desk, while the rest of the company is still on Chrome.

      I'm with the FOSS people on this point: Reducing a user's control over his own computer - especially in job-threatening ways - is evil.

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    28. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I won't comment on "slow", "bloated", or "POS", but Firefox has been 64 bit native for a very long time. 8+ years maybe?

      $ file /usr/lib/firefox/firefox /usr/lib/firefox/firefox: ELF 64-bit LSB shared object, x86-64, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs)

    29. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Way to get on that pulpit and preach at every chance you get. Nobody cares what you do when Australis comes our or what you think about it. Especially not in a thread about Chrome.

      People, please stop wasting our time with your petty diatribes about Australis and empty threats that you're going to switch browsers. If you think Mozilla doesn't care, the rest of the world cares even less.

    30. Re:I stopped using Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The use Pale Moon these guys want to remain intact the spirit of the old Firefox (windows only but the seem look for Linux people for a native version)
      http://www.palemoon.org/

    31. Re:I stopped using Chrome by strikethree · · Score: 1

      Who is driving all of this "simplicity" shit? It killed Gnome and has made Firefox much less desirable already. Who the fuck is doing this?! Why does nobody seem to be able to name a name of someone at Mozilla (and previously at Gnome) who is pushing for this shit. I want names.

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  4. Ugh by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 5, Informative

    I use an extension to download videos from YouTube. Those tend to be blocked from the Web Store, so you have to install them manually from other websites (this is the bit that is getting blocked). I hope there is at least a command line switch left in to disable this behavior! It's very "walled garden" and I don't like it.

    BTW, the summary says "local extensions" but that is incorrect. It just blocks non-Chrome Web Store web extensions. Extensions you are actively developing and load via "Load unpacked extension" will still work.

    Actually, that might have to be the fix for my YouTube extension I use. Oh well.

    1. Re:Ugh by fermion · · Score: 2
      This is why I continue to use Firefox for most everything. Cookie managers, ad blockers, flash blockers, youtube downloaders. Most of this used to be baked into Camino, but, alas it is no more. Still it is easy enough to duplicate the functionality in the Firefox build.

      More evidence that Google is not afraid of making life harder on the users, in the name of security of course, to protect it's revenue flow. It has gotten to the point where I am even using Bing sometimes. If I can find a replacement for Google Docs, I might even leave the Google workflow altogether, and use Dropbox instead of Google drive.

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    2. Re:Ugh by Charliemopps · · Score: 2, Insightful

      If you don't like "walled gardens" why the hell are you using Chrome when that's clearly its sole purpose? I mean, come on, when it came out anyone with any sense knew exactly why Google wrote it, and that was due to all the activity in the firefox addon community.

    3. Re:Ugh by The+MAZZTer · · Score: 1

      The initial version of Chrome did not support addons. But Firefox was so slow at the time I gladly jumped ship and never looked back.

    4. Re:Ugh by DarkTempes · · Score: 1

      Do you think that --easy-off-store-extension-install will work for this?

    5. Re:Ugh by Andrio · · Score: 1

      I use Chrome at work and I created a little add-on to enhance an internal ticketing system we use. I distributed to others in my department.

      Looks like come January this will be dead. I can still use it via the "load unpacked extension" option, but that'll make any kind of distribution a pain.

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    6. Re:Ugh by X0563511 · · Score: 1

      You should come on over and have another look.

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    7. Re:Ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Serious question: Why does everyone want to download stuff from youtube or other sites with similar content? Can't we just watch it online? How much of this stuff do people want to really watch over and over? It just doesn't make any sense to me - my usage pattern must be very different. I could see it in two scenarios: 1) to upload to other sites (violating copyright), 2) It isn't youtube, it is redtube and it is porn people want to download.

      I'm sure there is some other reason that everyone seems so enamored of these downloaders. What is that reason?

    8. Re:Ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I switched to Chrome for pretty much the same reason: speed.
      However, it has become clear to me that Chrome development isn't going in a nice direction. (This applies generally, not just to add ons. For example, every new version of Chrome is uglier than the previous one, whereas Firefox can (admittedly with some Stylish work) just mimic the system theme and look pretty nice.) So I switched back to Firefox again (at least on my laptop).
      But then I rediscover that Firefox takes ages to start and how much I relied on being able to full-text search my history. This history isn't copied to Firefox, as are equivalents of installed extensions, search words, and various browser settings. It's a very subtle form of lock-in but still quite effective as I haven't been able to make myself switch on my desktop PC (yet).
      It would be nice if browsers were able to copy more settings from each other.

    9. Re:Ugh by zidium · · Score: 1

      I use duckduckgo.com for easily 80% of my day to day searches; bing for 10% and only 10% do I have to resort to Google.

      I have been using zoho.com for all my Google-Doc like stuff for ages. It's a LOT better, too! Their spreadsheet app is *years* ahead of Google Spreadsheet, if you ask me, particularly with expressions, graphs and data sorting / pivot tables.

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    10. Re:Ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The youtube downloader I was using quit working. Which one works now (and isn't sleazy malware)?

    11. Re:Ugh by WillyWanker · · Score: 1

      Because no matter how fast my connection is YouTube never can stream a damned video from start to finish without stopping at least 10 times. I see a video I want to watch, I click the download button, and then I can watch it whenever I want without stuttering, buffering, freezing, glitching, or any of the other nonsense I get from the YouTube site.

    12. Re:Ugh by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      1/ Streaming from youtube often stalls, completely ruining the experience, particularly at the times I feel like watching music videos. This is a youtube issue, not my connection which is solid and fast for other uses.
      2/ Stuff disappears from youtube
      3/ I like to make DVDs or fill flashdrives with music videos so I can play them on non-connected devices.
      4/ On many UK trains connectivity is poor (both 3G, and where provided, WiFi tend to flake out frequently) but I still want to watch videos on my tablet.

      There are other reasons I can't be bothered to list.

    13. Re:Ugh by kav2k · · Score: 1

      Enterprise install / GPO are still supported, as far as the summary goes.

  5. Sure, go ahead. by pla · · Score: 3, Funny

    ...And overnight, Chromium replaces 97% of Chrome's market share.

    1. Re:Sure, go ahead. by rotaryexpress · · Score: 3, Funny

      ....On 0.1% of Chrome users.

    2. Re:Sure, go ahead. by cpicon92 · · Score: 2

      ...And overnight, Chromium replaces 97% of Chrome's market share.

      Not that I approve of Google's decision, but how many people do you think actually use extensions from outside the store? And how many of those people like them enough to bother locating Chromium builds for Windows? I highly doubt Chrome's market share will be much affected by this...

    3. Re:Sure, go ahead. by Russ1642 · · Score: 1

      Overnight 99.5% of Chrome users won't notice a damned thing.

    4. Re:Sure, go ahead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      My favorite version: Comodo. http://www.comodo.com/home/browsers-toolbars/browser.php?track=3294

    5. Re:Sure, go ahead. by Sir_Sri · · Score: 3, Insightful

      but how many people do you think actually use extensions from outside the store?

      of the people that use extensions at all? Probably most of them, as I would think the most popular extensions are things like youtube downloaders and netflix unblockers that let you use VPN services so you can access say UK netflix from the US, and US netflix from Australia.

    6. Re:Sure, go ahead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      anyone who likes to download videos from YouTube for starters. So...all those "hip" young kids who eschew MS products cause they're from MS and ditched firefox cause "my dad uses that!".

      Pretty much anyone under 30 now.

    7. Re:Sure, go ahead. by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      no it wont. 99.99785% dont care and will not notice.

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    8. Re:Sure, go ahead. by rastos1 · · Score: 1

      What if a company develops and sells an extension and does not want to publish it via Google store?

    9. Re:Sure, go ahead. by cpicon92 · · Score: 1

      Well then they're screwed. I'm not saying that Google is right to do this. I'm just saying that it's silly to think that an extension or two (paid, or not) is going to motivate people to switch away from Chrome.

      I believe Google's motivation for doing this (other than corporate greed) is the tendency for crap-ware to install extensions in Chrome without the user's permission. I can't say that I'll miss that.

    10. Re:Sure, go ahead. by Nimey · · Score: 1

      Sure, if you're counting us nerds as all of Chrome's share.

      Hint: most people won't give a shit.

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    11. Re:Sure, go ahead. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      but how many people do you think actually use extensions from outside the store?

      of the people that use extensions at all? Probably most of them, as I would think the most popular extensions are things like youtube downloaders and netflix unblockers that let you use VPN services so you can access say UK netflix from the US, and US netflix from Australia.

      Why do you think such extensions aren't in the store?
      https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/youtube-video-downloader/dgkeilckghfobibhlngmndkbkmfidldf?hl=en
      https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vpn-in-touch/ofpdbhlplgmjciokcplneebmibpclalk?hl=en

  6. Well that sucks. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Good thing I use Chromium.

  7. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by i+kan+reed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Adblock, maybe?

  8. Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by EvilSS · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Did Google recently buy a brick factory because they seem to be trying to slowly build a wall around their not-quite-as-open-as-it-once-was garden. Between this and some of the stuff they are pulling with Android (Play Store, API lock-ins) and Chromecast they seem to be all about turning down the openness lately. Come to think of it, that seems to be a trend (Skype, Twitter APIs off the top of my head, then of course that fruit company) lately.

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    1. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by pongo000 · · Score: 1

      then of course that fruit company

      Adafruit? What the hell are you talking about?

    2. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Orange.

      www.orange.co.uk

    3. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by ebno-10db · · Score: 2

      Frankly I don't know much about Firefox OS, but it's starting to sound better and better. For that matter, couldn't there be an Android fork? (which would have companies w/ serious $ behind it).

      Sounds like Google is starting to suffer from the same hubris that's killed so many companies that were once on top. Sort of a corporate variant of Napolean's "the world's cemeteries are filled with indispensable men". I can't think of anything Google has that can't be replaced, or for which there are already alternatives.

    4. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by nurb432 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Don't forget moving nearly all their stuff to the new 'Google play framework'... and all the internal hooks it brings with it, just to read mail or send a message..

      Google has run off the track.

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    5. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      then of course that fruit company

      Adafruit? What the hell are you talking about?

      *Fruit of the loom*

    6. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by cffrost · · Score: 2

      [...] then of course that fruit company [...]

      App-pull?

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    7. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You make it sound like it just happened? Google is a publicly held company, Do no evil is marketing..

    8. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by girlintraining · · Score: 1

      Did Google recently buy a brick factory because...

      They're a big business, like Apple. Like coca cola. Once you establish a brand in people's mind, you can do whatever you want as long as you keep being trendy and hip. Congress has called several committees to investigate Google, Apple, Microsoft, and others, and amazingly it was mostly "We love your stuff! Kindof a lot! But, er, you know, uhh.. there's these, uhh... questions... well... more maybe just er, if you want, you know... aww forget it. we love you. take our money.

      I mean people actually bought that crap about Google fighting the NSA. And now they're doing evil left and right, maximizing profits... and everyone's like "Oh noes! How could you do this to us?" But next week... they'll be like... oh google, how could I ever have hated you?

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    9. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by maccodemonkey · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Did Google recently buy a brick factory because they seem to be trying to slowly build a wall around their not-quite-as-open-as-it-once-was garden. Between this and some of the stuff they are pulling with Android (Play Store, API lock-ins) and Chromecast they seem to be all about turning down the openness lately. Come to think of it, that seems to be a trend (Skype, Twitter APIs off the top of my head, then of course that fruit company) lately.

      I saw this coming from a long ways away from Google. It's classic embrace, extend, and extinguish, Microsoft style.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embrace,_extend_and_extinguish

      "The strategy's three phases are:[11]
      Embrace: Development of software substantially compatible with a competing product, or implementing a public standard.
      Extend: Addition and promotion of features not supported by the competing product or part of the standard, creating interoperability problems for customers who try to use the 'simple' standard.
      Extinguish: When extensions become a de facto standard because of their dominant market share, they marginalize competitors that do not or cannot support the new extensions."

      Google was only committed to open source for the "extend" portion. Now that they've got more market share than Apple on mobile, and they're dominant in the browser market, they're moving on to extinguish.

    10. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      I suspect that the problem is the (which would have companies w/ serious $ behind it) part.

      There is at least one fairly serious Android fork, which doesn't really have a name for marketing purposes; but is what all the Kindle tablet devices run. It's arguably even more dystopian than Google's version, though I don't know how competently it locks down the bootloader and keeps you from fleeing entirely.

      In the same general vein, the AOSP 'clean' version of Android isn't an FSF-purist-dream; but only because of all the apache components, it's safe enough. It's also pretty spartan. Most of the good stuff on an Android device either is, or depends on, Google Android apps or APIs they provide. Every time Google bumps a version, it's typical to see another bit or piece of the 'Google Android' build drop an AOSP-provided component in favor of a Google one. The old code still exists, and you can still do whatever you want with it; but that's a good sign that it isn't going to be seeing much engineering time from Google in the future.

      Arguably, Google's strategy appears to be more of an attempt at bundling (which, strategically, does require walled-gardening some components of the bundle, since using pricing-based bundling strategies on free stuff doesn't really work) than a pure walled-garden play. Use your strengths (eg. how many companies, aside from perhaps Nokia, who actually has a mapping division; but is a thrall of MS now, would dare launch an 'android' handset without Google maps and Gmail?) to push on areas where you are relatively weak (Against Apple, Google can't afford to have 'android' be a synonym for 'cheap shit packed with more crapware than a stereotypical AOL-user's emachine')

      Their strategy of remaining 'open' (ie. Android is open source, Chrome is based on Chromium, Chromebook is just Linux with a few binaries on top, etc.); but ensuring that the only really frictionless way to use their stuff is by playing by their rules, with your Google Account, in the Google Play Store, etc. seems to be the implementation of this.

    11. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by ebno-10db · · Score: 1

      Do no evil is marketing..

      I'm no Google fanboy, but what they're doing is hardly evil. Whether it's a good business idea or whether people will walk is the only issue. I hope for the latter, but I wouldn't call it evil if the former happened.

    12. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Android fork: http://www.cyanogenmod.org/

      What would these "companies w/ serious $" hope to achieve with an Android fork?

    13. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps not 'evil' in the strictest definition, but i personally have a problem with them restricting what their users can do with their own equipment. I also see a problem with them conveniently turning a blind eye to 3rd parties doing cool things to allow more market penetration, then yanking the rug out from underneath everyone.

      And yes i know you have 'choice' not to use their products and services, but when there are only 3 real players in the game that are as bad as Google is becoming, do you really have a choice?

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    14. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by rossdee · · Score: 1

      We don't need no education..

    15. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by omnichad · · Score: 2
    16. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by swb · · Score: 1

      I had lunch with Jeff Dean a couple of weeks ago and he told me the engineers were pretty pissed at the NSA stuff and were working to make it a lot more difficult for the NSA.

    17. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by exomondo · · Score: 1

      Between this and some of the stuff they are pulling with Android (Play Store, API lock-ins) and Chromecast they seem to be all about turning down the openness lately.

      Don't forget that pretty much all the open source stock Android apps have been abandoned in favor of proprietary Google ones. Android is becoming just the low level interface upon which the proprietary Google platform runs, so applications using services offered through the Google Play Services platform - like GCM, maps, wallet, geofencing, admob, etc - aren't really Android apps, they are Google Play apps which will only work if you have the proprietary Google Play platform installed and that platform is where most of the features are being added now.

    18. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by ebno-10db · · Score: 1

      Their strategy of remaining 'open' (ie. Android is open source, Chrome is based on Chromium, Chromebook is just Linux with a few binaries on top, etc.); but ensuring that the only really frictionless way to use their stuff is by playing by their rules, with your Google Account, in the Google Play Store, etc. seems to be the implementation of this.

      I hate to say it, but that might be a very clever, and effective, business strategy. It's a sort of soft lock-in. Sure you can fork it, but the Google stuff isn't really bad enough to justify it.

    19. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by nctritech · · Score: 1

      This continues to work in Microsoft's favor even today. There are so many things that only work with ActiveX, it's insane. Citrix and any Blue Cross Blue Shield website come to mind. There was a /. article a few days ago about how Koreans are largely stuck on IE due to Korean government encryption that requires an ActiveX plugin to work.

    20. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by citizenr · · Score: 1

      Not to mention Youtube requires Google+ since yesterday. Cant comment/upload without g+.

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    21. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 1

      Oh, I definitely wouldn't be betting against them on that (and, unfortunately, if I were betting against them, it'd be because I was betting on one of their overtly hard lock-in competitors, like Apple.)

      It is nice that Google doesn't really ever stop you (and in our delightful world of DRM and 'licensed-not-sold' many vendors are not so polite); but practically everything they do is a softish sell of every part of their ecosystem that they haven't sucked you into yet.

    22. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google's engineers are Google employees. If the corporation doesn't want them wasting their time on this, they can put their foot down. We'll see how true it is that Google itself supports this sentiment or if it's really just some of their engineers (who of course get to be called "Google engineers" so Google can take some credit).

    23. Re: Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Timeout. What Citrix products require active x these days?

    24. Re: Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by PoopMonkey · · Score: 1

      Citrix sucks in many ways, but he's smoking crack. I logged into our citrix server from chrome, and I can get into blue cross blue shield from chrome with no problem.

    25. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      then of course that fruit company

      Adafruit? What the hell are you talking about?

      Probably this one:
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6dmhF1rqaZk

    26. Re:Walled Garden: One brick at a time.... by fatphil · · Score: 1

      Nah, my Blackberry keeps running out of juice...
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kAG39jKi0lI

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  9. Great another walled garden by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Just what we need less and less control over ......

  10. If last pass goes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I go to something else. Can't live without that one.

  11. So, who wants to fork. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Oh, wait, you can just use Chromium and stop crying.

    Anyone that uses Chrome and bitches deserves to suffer. You do not need automatic updates.
    In fact, automatic updates are more of a pain than anything. There is a reason nobody uses forced updating in business, because developers are asshats that constantly break their own shit and then everyone suffers because of it.
    Chromium devs are some of the worst for that too. I can't count how many times "stable" updates broke the browser back in the earlier days, jesus christ what the hell were you guys doing?

    If they do, however, block it on Chromium, I am serious in the forking question, I can easily drop my life and work on it. Fuck Google. Don't piss me off, I'm bitter, determined and lifeless outside of code.

    1. Re:So, who wants to fork. by nurb432 · · Score: 2

      Oh, wait, you can just use Chromium and stop crying.

      For how much longer? You can fork but then it becomes yet another 3rd party browser, behind the 'official' one that you can no longer get features from, and might even get slapped down for "unauthorized 3rd party use of APIs"..

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    2. Re:So, who wants to fork. by rroman · · Score: 2

      I don't mean to create flame war or something, but seriously, what aspects of Chrome are so good that Firefox can't match them? It used to be speed, but nowadays I would say that both browsers are pretty fast. In number of extensions, Firefox is the clear leader, so what is the reason?

    3. Re:So, who wants to fork. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      Protecting Windows users from malicious extensions
      Thursday, November 07, 2013
      Extensions are a great way to enhance the browsing experience; whether users want to quickly post to social networks or to stay up to date with their favorite sports teams. Many services bundle useful companion extensions, which causes Chrome to ask whether you want to install them (or not). However, bad actors have abused this mechanism, bypassing the prompt to silently install malicious extensions that override browser settings and alter the user experience in undesired ways, such as replacing the New Tab Page without approval. In fact, this is a leading cause of complaints from our Windows users.

      from the chromium blog

    4. Re:So, who wants to fork. by organgtool · · Score: 1

      I started using Chrome back in its beta version because of its process separation that prevented one bad tab from taking down the whole browser. The funny thing is, the browser was so stable that I rarely ever had a rogue tab fail on me in the first place. And while Firefox stepped up their game on speed, Chrome just seems to render faster (it could just be psychological). Also, Chrome's interface uses less real-estate and leaves more room for page content. While I also use Firefox on some machines, it's performance seems to suffer if I leave it open for too long. Yet I have left Chrome open for months and it feels just as snappy as when I first started it. And since I don't use many, if any, extensions, Chrome is a better fit for my needs.

    5. Re:So, who wants to fork. by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I haven't been on Firefox in quite a while, but when I switched, Chrome's inspector was much nicer than Firebug. But I do web development, so that won't matter to everyone.

    6. Re:So, who wants to fork. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      bypassing the prompt

      This is the actual problem.

    7. Re:So, who wants to fork. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And yet they opted to disable silent installs, and instead force everyone to go their store. I don't blame them, of course, it's the perfect way to grab a bit more power and control under the guise of "doing the right thing". But it's disingenuous to take their word at face value when there are simpler methods at their disposal that don't lock people into their own store.

    8. Re:So, who wants to fork. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This was a problem in the past with firefox, but now it seems so stable that I can run it for weeks without having to restart it.
      The memory leak issues are mostly gone as well and it actually consumes less memory than chrome if you a really heavy tab user like me.

    9. Re:So, who wants to fork. by EdZep · · Score: 1

      WRT screen real estate, I get Firefox to leave more room than Chrome by making a couple of tweaks: Use View/toolbars/customize to move the URL bar and the few buttons I use, to the Menu bar. Also on View/toolbars, turn off visibility of the Navigation toolbar, and the Add-on bar. Next, add an extension called Hide Menubar. This allows you to just hit the Alt key if/when you need the menu, or the URL bar or buttons that now reside there. Conveniently, when I hit Ctrl-T for a new tab, the menu is shown, with the cursor in the URL bar, ready for me to type a new address. (I don't recall if I had to do any fiddling to make that occur.)

  12. Non-issue by YodaDaCoda · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I suspect that this is less about blocking YouTube downloaders, and more about blocking those extensions that appear after not un-checking the box on programs downloaded and installed from the internet. I.e. it's more for the protection of grandma who wants to download a pretty solitaire app than it is for stopping little Johnny downloading his music videos of Miley. If you're smart enough to follow a few simple instructions and install a local extension, you're smart enough to follow a few simple instructions and install the Dev channel of Chrome first.

    1. Re:Non-issue by nurb432 · · Score: 0, Troll

      And your suspicion would be dead wrong. They want to control your "market" and prevent you from 'stealing' their stuff ( like YT down-loaders, and ad blocks. ) and also to keep you 100% within their ecosystem.

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    2. Re:Non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If that were the case, they could leave it as an option, defaulted to block such extensions, but allow individual users to decided to allow such extension installs.

    3. Re:Non-issue by Daas · · Score: 1

      I suspect that this is less about blocking YouTube downloaders, and more about blocking those extensions that appear after not un-checking the box on programs downloaded and installed from the internet.

      I.e. it's more for the protection of grandma who wants to download a pretty solitaire app than it is for stopping little Johnny downloading his music videos of Miley.

      This. Google is not stupid, they know that users that want to install extensions from their disk know how to install Chromium. I'm fine with it if less crap is going to get installed on my parents computer. I'll just install Chromium and everything will stay the same for me.

    4. Re:Non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You are an extra kind of special. :)

    5. Re:Non-issue by TubeSteak · · Score: 2

      If you're smart enough to follow a few simple instructions and install a local extension, you're smart enough to follow a few simple instructions and install the Dev channel of Chrome first.

      Oh God.
      You have no idea how much malware/malicious websites come with instructions on how to circumvent security measures.
      There are plenty of people who are just smart enough to follow instructions without fully understanding the consequence of their actions.

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    6. Re:Non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That's amazing... you can ACTUALLY READ THE MINDS of Google executives!

    7. Re:Non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And your suspicion would be dead wrong. They want to control your "market" and prevent you from 'stealing' their stuff ( like YT down-loaders, and ad blocks. ) and also to keep you 100% within their ecosystem.

      But...but...that would mean they DO EVIL!!!

    8. Re:Non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That may be the excuse, but it cannot be the reason. You see, Chrome's developers didn't want a UAC prompt on install so they decided to install in the per-user folder. They know damn well that this means that anything else you run can silently modify Chrome as well, in any way it wants, without triggering a UAC prompt.
      Hence, to figure out the reason why Google does this, you have to look at what it does accomplish: it brings the walled garden to Chrome.
      It's just like ‘think of the children’ in politics - it's never really about the children.

    9. Re:Non-issue by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It's not his fault. He was just driving by, and they had their minds on unsecured wireless.

  13. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If that were the motivation, would they not also do this on the Mac?

    This is about _fucking_ annoying windows malware repeatedly reinstalling chrome extensions.

  14. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Sir_Sri · · Score: 4, Insightful

    mediahint, Hola, anything that lets you free VPN into services that you aren't really supposed to be able to access.

  15. wtf google? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    First you are going to kill off VoIP via Google voice, and now this.. Have they lost their minds? What is next?

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    1. Re:wtf google? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Can you elaborate on that? I use Google voice all the time and don't see any issues with it.

    2. Re:wtf google? by nurb432 · · Score: 3, Informative

      http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11/04/merging-of-google-voice-and-hangouts-will-result-shutting-down-all-3rd-party-voice-apps-in-may-2014/

      Yes, you can use a 3rd party VoIP app with a 3rd party provider, but having the Google integration was really nice. And how many will be free? Only ones i know of hook into Google voice .. all the rest are pay, so might as well keep using your cell minutes.

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    3. Re:wtf google? by csumpi · · Score: 1

      add google talk to the list, where they killed the desktop application and blocked third parties

    4. Re:wtf google? by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      They all suck. So what is your point?

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  16. Google today announced they don't like MS... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Nothing new here. Just Google making things more difficult for users on a platform that isn't theirs. Nothing anti-competitive about that, nope. Nothing to see here, folks, just move along...

    Luckily, most users won't notice a thing.

  17. Yet another company holding customers hostage by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It appears that Google is acting no different than Apple, Microsoft or any of the other big name corporations in that they are holding customers hostage to their OS environment trying to force customer loyalty. Customer loyalty is built through providing good products and great service.

    1. Re:Yet another company holding customers hostage by McKing · · Score: 1

      I get good products and great service from Google (search, Gmail, Chrome, and my Nexus 4). No one is "holding me hostage" to force my loyalty. That loyalty is freely given, even with the knowledge that all of my interactions with Google are tracked and stored somewhere. Every other provider of these services would track, analyze, and use this data anyway, and even if Google has shown itself to be a corporate entity with corporate goals sometimes, that doesn't mean that they have broken their "don't be evil" mission. You can be "not so good" sometimes without being "evil".

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  18. Dear Google - Fuck you by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, really. Have you forgotten that there are free alternatives?

  19. Google Chrome add-ons not that popular by Animats · · Score: 2

    I have the same add-on available for both Google Chrome and Firefox. Firefox has about 100x as many users.

  20. Reasons... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

    It makes Chrome the same on all platforms so that using Chrome on windows is like Chrome OS on a chromebook.

    It is a stupid move, just like removing the ability to turn off all autocomplete in the address bar.

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  21. The new Google motto is "Do no good". by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Honestly, the way Google arbitrarily quits various projects, leaving users who
    had time invested in using this projects, combined with "strategic" moves like
    this blocking of extensions, makes them look like nothing so much as a bunch
    of entitled sociopathic douche bags.

    1. Re:The new Google motto is "Do no good". by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      I agree that its the sign of a company that needs to mature.

      While i can fully understand 'projects' coming and going as not all will make the cut, but when you start mucking around with front line business apps like this, you are a fool.

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    2. Re:The new Google motto is "Do no good". by ebno-10db · · Score: 2

      combined with "strategic" moves like this blocking of extensions, makes them look like nothing so much as a bunch of entitled sociopathic douche bags

      I think words like "disorganized" and "unreliable" would describe it better.

  22. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by TubeSteak · · Score: 4, Informative

    See Also: Google Chrome 25 will disable silent extension installation, kill all such extensions retroactively
    Friday, 21 Dec 2012

    Translation: Google still can't figure out how to secure Chrome from stealth installs of malware.

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  23. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Cito · · Score: 2, Informative

    Adblock definitely not be available to chrome soon

    All adblock apps and addons were banned from google play store already.

    Firefox is only browser on android and desktop that will support adblock plugin soon.

    Plus they've realy exposed their hate of adblock on google groups forums

  24. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by blueg3 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Adblock is on the Chrome Web Store.

  25. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Informative

    If that were the motivation, would they not also do this on the Mac?

    This is about _fucking_ annoying windows malware repeatedly reinstalling chrome extensions.

    The fact that they are not breaking the capability on 'enterprise' policy installs suggests the same.

    Incidentally, even if you aren't on a domain, this should mean that it isn't exactly rocket surgery to install the 'blocked' Chrome extensions. Winkey+r, gpedit.msc, import the chromium policy templates, modify 'ExtensionInstallForcelist' to taste. Game over.

  26. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by GameboyRMH · · Score: 4, Informative

    Came here to say this, it's all about the malware. Tons of malware apps use Chrome plugins.

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  27. Douchy by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    do I really have to click through some summary of a statement from Google just to read that Google is doing this as a security response to abusers of the extension mechanism...?

    the click bait makes it seem like Google is trying to consolidate its power when they explain in their blog pay that this is to prevent actual abuse.

    finally, here's why Google actually does suck: their hangouts extension doesn't work without g+ membership (I said no 500 times in YouTube dammit so stop asking!) and they have announced that they're ending Google talk, breaking jitsi and other chat programs after also ending jabber compatibility. Forcing all gchat users to join g+ is the kind of tying monopoly shit Microsoft did on the 90s. stop it Google.

  28. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There are Chrome alternatives, SRWare Iron probably won't include such a stupid self-serving clause.

  29. Welcome to the Google Walled Garden of evil by goombah99 · · Score: 2, Interesting

    Google's catch phrase "don't be evil" reminds me of the famous Outerlimits Episode where the aliens come "TO serve Man", and it turns out that's the title of their cook book.

    So google walls its garden. The walls seem to be taller than apples. FOr example, try installing linux on a chromebook. Sure you can do it but every single time it falls asleep or boots the screen it says after wake"You are running in an insecure mode, press the space bar". If press the spacebar, it erases the hard drive and re-installs chrome from scratch. Thus it's practically impossible to run Linux in any stable way on a chrome book. Yes it runs, but it's like having a set of rotating knives permanently surrounding the on-off switch. They just don't want you to do this, while they want to take credit for having an "open" platform. ( by comparisons Apples are happy to boot to linux, no rotating knives thrust at you upon wake from sleep.)

    Now they crank down on the path you can use to install extensions.

    Google has become not only more severe than apple but they also sell all your private info.

      Google actually meant "Don't settle for being merely Evil".

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    1. Re:Welcome to the Google Walled Garden of evil by mjpollard · · Score: 2

      Minor correction: "To Serve Man" was an episode of The Twilight Zone, not The Outer Limits. (Fun fact: the main alien in that episode was played by Richard Kiel, better known as Jaws from the James Bond films "The Spy Who Loved Me" and "Moonraker.")

    2. Re:Welcome to the Google Walled Garden of evil by Aidtopia · · Score: 1

      the famous Outerlimits Episode where the aliens come "TO serve Man", and it turns out that's the title of their cook book.

      In the interest of accuracy, that was a Twilight Zone episode, written by Rod Serling, based on a story by Damon Knight.

    3. Re:Welcome to the Google Walled Garden of evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      That guy played great characters, thanks for pointing out this early work.

    4. Re:Welcome to the Google Walled Garden of evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Google's catch phrase "don't be evil" reminds me of the famous Outerlimits Episode where the aliens come "TO serve Man", and it turns out that's the title of their cook book.

      That would be The Twilight Zone you are thinking of. /Pedant

    5. Re:Welcome to the Google Walled Garden of evil by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

      The walls seem to be taller than apples.

      Oh come on. They disabled a developer feature in the mainstream build but left it in the dev version. "Controversial" extensions like AdBlock are available on their official website. How is that worse than Apple?

      If press the spacebar, it erases the hard drive and re-installs chrome from scratch.

      Liar. There are further confirmation prompts, it doesn't just format your HDD the instant you press it. In fact you can completely remove the ChromeOS restore image if you want to, making restore only possible by downloading an image. All Google did was enable a security feature by default, a feature that most people will want and which is easily bypassed.

      FWIW Linus himself runs Linux on a Chromebook and uses it as his main development machine. Can't beat that high resolution 3:4 screen.

      They also make it easy to install an alternate OS on their phones and tablets, including Linux. Apple do everything in their power to prevent that.

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    6. Re:Welcome to the Google Walled Garden of evil by ArcadeMan · · Score: 2

      On the other hand, let's not forget that Apple provides BootCamp and Windows drivers for their computers.

    7. Re:Welcome to the Google Walled Garden of evil by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Google has become not only more severe than apple but they also sell all your private info.

      Info to which I happily consent them having in exchange for providing many free services which improve my life. I find it very hard to get upset about their business model.

    8. Re:Welcome to the Google Walled Garden of evil by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Google provides the tools to install other operating systems too.

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    9. Re:Welcome to the Google Walled Garden of evil by jlv · · Score: 1

      And the original story was much better....
      http://perrylocal.org/mostova/files/2011/09/To-Serve-Man.pdf

    10. Re:Welcome to the Google Walled Garden of evil by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Are you a paid Google employee or just a ridiculous fan. The amount of time you people spend defending brands on the internet...

  30. Firefox Extensions by brunes69 · · Score: 0

    I am glad you feel that way, because I stopped using Firefox because it's extensions are not up to par with Chrome extensions. I got tired of extensions not syncing transparently across my many computers. I got tied of extensions constantly being disabled every time I upgraded the browser. I got tired of not having amazing extensions like SilverBird and Checker Plus and and having to put up with crappy, clunky alternatives. Finally I got tired of having to install extensions in Firefox for things that just come for free in Chrome in the first place.

  31. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Except that gpedit.msc to my knowledge is not available on Home Basic versions at least.

  32. Amazing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    ... how the fine editor and all the comments managed to avoid even hinting to the real reason (clearly stated in both TFA and the original announcement - seriously, how fucking hard is it to link to that instead of some random article?!):

    http://blog.chromium.org/2013/11/protecting-windows-users-from-malicious.html

    This is strictly a security move. Google says it is making the move in reaction to malicious Chrome extensions plaguing Microsoft’s desktop platform

    1. Re:Amazing by csumpi · · Score: 1

      except to block malicious extentions they could do just that instead of going nuclear and blocking everything. so no, I dont buy that bs.

  33. HTTPS Everywhere/EFF by Midnight_Falcon · · Score: 1

    Last time I checked HTTPS Everywhere was installed from the EFF's web site and not through the Chrome store. What does this mean for Chrome and HTTPS by default?

    1. Re:HTTPS Everywhere/EFF by Tr3vin · · Score: 2

      It will still be able to installed. The EFF also has it in the Chrome store.

    2. Re:HTTPS Everywhere/EFF by Midnight_Falcon · · Score: 1

      ah thanks..I was getting the Firefox addon store confused with the Chrome store. The Mozilla/Firefox one still lacks HTTPS everywhere but that's not an issue for Chrome. Huzzah!

  34. Yay Firefox! by lasermike026 · · Score: 1

    And another corp degrades their products and starts trend toward abandonment.

  35. Re: Or, of course extensions that google doesn't l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

    Run a dns proxy.

  36. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by i+kan+reed · · Score: 1

    For now. I don't trust the world's biggest advertiser to control my "user experience". There's a ghastly conflict of interest there.

  37. Here is why by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    I run a computer repair shop and this is not an exaggeration. Anyone stupid enough to accidentally install and then use Chrome is evidently also stupid enough to install 50 different advertising and crapware plugins as well. Every copy of Chrome I see is infected with DefaultTab and MP3Rocket and Babylon, etc. This now makes perfect sense because they can advertising themselves as the clean and safe browser.

    1. Re:Here is why by omnichad · · Score: 1

      More likely they were told to install Chrome by someone that thought that it would somehow help. IE is no less infestable.

    2. Re:Here is why by nctritech · · Score: 1

      No, Chrome is pushed by SO MANY free downloads. I've noticed that many of the OpenCandy-based "shit I don't want" suggestion portions of installers tend to push Google Chrome. Avast Free pushes it incessantly. Chrome installs through many of the same channels that DefaultTab, WhiteSmoke, MapsGalaxy, etc. do it. Most of my residential customers have no idea what Chrome is or why it's on their computer.

    3. Re:Here is why by omnichad · · Score: 1

      I'm fairly certain that it doesn't make them use it or make it the default browser.

  38. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    But not available as an Android extension I think.

  39. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Dahamma · · Score: 1

    The fact that they are not breaking the capability on 'enterprise' policy installs suggests the same.

    And the fact that they allow anyone to run dev channel build, and they don't block them there...

  40. It was nice, Chrome by istartedi · · Score: 4, Funny

    It was nice, Chrome. Your scripting engine was fast. You hardly ever crashed. Your UI was pretty decent. I could even overlook some of your shortcomings. You were my first tabbed browser. I was actually willing to retrain my brain to quit using my OS's more universal process switching in defference to your tabbiness. We had some tough times closing the whole browser by accident when we really only wanted to close the page; but we worked through it. Your scripting engine was fast. You were young and sexy. It had to end though. I knew you wanted to pull me into your walled garden and make me mow every Saturday. I just wasn't ready for that kind of commitment. I know it's painful but I think we both realize it's time to move on. There's this other browser and, well... it's a fox.

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    1. Re:It was nice, Chrome by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you like a fast browser with tabs, you might really like Opera from ten years ago. :p

      But seriously, Opera added tabs in 2000, Mozilla and Netscape in 2001, and IE7 in 2006. Chrome didn't come out until '08. Were you on Internet Explorer 6 exclusively until Chrome came out? Because you were still on Windows 2000 and never tried Firefox?

  41. Unfortunately, a step in the right direction by Dorianny · · Score: 1

    Unfortunately I have yet to a windows installation that doesn't have all browsers encumbered by at least 3 adware/spyware addons. This even happened on my own computer after letting my niece play with it for a few hours. Only discovered after noticing "ads not from this page" poppons. Unfortunately this is probably a step in the right direction for most users. To the knowledgeable this is only a annoyance.

  42. Re: Or, of course extensions that google doesn't l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You wouldn't want it as a browser extension on mobile. Most of the ads served to you are in the apps you use. In that use the easiest way to do an ad blocker on mobile is the hosts file. Ad Away does this on android and works beautifully.

  43. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can always add the registry keys by hand in that scenario.

  44. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Severus+Snape · · Score: 5, Informative

    In the store. Google made some changes to Webkit a while back to improve Adblock, before Adblock used to still have to download the ads, then block them. Some changes Google made allowed the ads to be blocked before the ads were fetched.

  45. Reason to avoid Chrome by HiThere · · Score: 1

    Sounds like a good reason to avoid Chrome. And to be suspicious of any Google product.

    I'm *not* on MSWind, but...

    Yeah, I know it's "a security measure". If that's their idea of the right way to implement a security measure, then I'm quite skeptical of anything Google does. But really I believe that the explanation is a lie. They aren't starting it now, and they haven't announced that "it's a temporary measure until we get a better fix".

    It seems to have been a long time now since Google was the "Do no evil" company, or even had that as a goal.

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  46. What about Chromium by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I use Chromium, is it going to be affected by this or is this Google branded?

    1. Re:What about Chromium by GuB-42 · · Score: 1

      Most certainly not.

      With Chromium, disabling "local" extensions would mean blocking all extensions.
      Chromium is a pure open source project, which isn't tied to the Google ecosystem. So blocking extensions from outside the Play Store would make no sense.

  47. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    Perhaps not... Apparently, I'm not too deeply versed in Windows technical arcana, but apparently some applications are configured by group policy indirectly (group policy changes the registry in the appropriate places, the application reads the registry in those places and acts accordingly) and some applications use an OS-provided API to query the applied group policies directly and apply those(exactly where the policies are stored in this instance is not clear to me. The domain controller presumably has them, in a networked environment; but where on the client they persist if it goes off the grid for a bit, or in the case of a locally managed machine, I don't know).

    As of version 28, (according to the thread in the above link, because of malware leading Chrome around by the nose through modifications of the registry entries), Chrome switched from the registry-based mechanism to the new mechanism. Modifications to the registry are now ignored, and only policies applied by the OS-supported group policy manipulation mechanisms will apply.

    I assume that these policies have to live somewhere, and thus can be edited (even if the OS protects them hard enough that you need a hex editor and a liveCD to do it); but it won't be a simple regedit.exe job.

  48. Re: Or, of course extensions that google doesn't l by behrooz0az · · Score: 5, Funny

    shushsh, the hosts file guy may hear you.

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  49. Re: Or, of course extensions that google doesn't l by dyingtolive · · Score: 4, Funny

    Or edit your HOSTS file...

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  50. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The banning of local plugins is about malware.

    The banning of Ad Block from Play is because Google is an advertising company and hates Ad Block.

  51. Re: Or, of course extensions that google doesn't l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh come on please dont bait the hosts guy out...

    However there are alternatives. I used to use proxy pac files. If that failed I would use a proxy server. If that failed I would then use a hosts file. Hosts file being the last line of defense. Because large hosts files are sort of shotgun. It fails when you have a mixed site. Where you want partial content. In that case you need something to parse the URL's and sometimes even the content. It is why I went with firefox and adblock plus and no-script.

    http://www.schooner.com/~loverso/no-ads/

  52. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by 93+Escort+Wagon · · Score: 2

    Firefox is only browser on android and desktop that will support adblock plugin soon.

    Mac Safari has AdBlock as well.

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  53. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by zidium · · Score: 1

    I've been 100% SRware Iron since the stupid new tab page in Chrome 29. Been using Iron for years, tho.

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  54. The Next Thing by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The next thing is Google will block Ad blocking extensions like it does on Play, or anything else they are pressured on.

  55. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Stalks · · Score: 1

    Last I looked you couldn't get Safari for both "android and desktop".

  56. This doesn't affect anything by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Chrome extensions are fucking userscripts, install tampermonkey, all this does is stop installers from installing shit, you are still fully capable of doing so

  57. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by CKW · · Score: 1

    The adblock guys should package it as a local standalone proxy then.

  58. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by bickerdyke · · Score: 1

    so far they did a good job to keep the real annoying ads (flash, blinking, sound) out of their ads.

    I never had an urge to block ads served by google

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  59. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by AmiMoJo · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If they were planning to do that they would have started by removing all the existing extensions on their web store that let you do those things. You can install numerous YouTube downloaders, proxy managers, ad blockers etc. and the same goes for Play (Android apps).

    This move is simply to block malware.

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  60. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

    AdBlock Plus for Chrome, from the official Google site: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock-plus/cfhdojbkjhnklbpkdaibdccddilifddb?utm_source=chrome-ntp-icon

    There are many other ad blockers available on there too. If you are going to lie you should at least think of something that isn't so trivially easy to disprove.

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  61. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Mashdar · · Score: 0

    Many Macs are desktops...

    I use a Linux desktop :)
    It happens to be my personal computer :)

  62. do no evil by csumpi · · Score: 1

    or if you do, we'll just use firefox

  63. Chrome and Google by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So, who really wants to use Google? Which is worse: Apple, Google or MSFT? I vote Google. They sell your info, they give it away, they data mine and lord knows what else they do. Plus, who thinks that Yahoo isn't a Google product now, please raise your hands.

  64. Re: Or, of course extensions that google doesn't l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I concur Captain Obvious.

  65. Re: Or, of course extensions that google doesn't l by Stalks · · Score: 1

    Do I have to spell it out? The comment said Firefox was the only browser on both Android and Desktop that supported Adblock. That means Safari, Apple and Mac are not the subject.

  66. Re: Or, of course extensions that google doesn't l by Mashdar · · Score: 1

    Why do I care what browser my phone is running when selecting one for my desktop? I don't really understand the insistence on tying the two together.

    From a syntactical perspective, "Firefox is only browser on android and desktop that will support adblock plugin soon," is ambiguous. You could be referring to the union "android and desktop" or to the intersection of "android and desktop". So I don't think the example above is out of line. (The inclusion of "both" removes ambiguity, per your second post.)

    Lastly, Chromium?

  67. The primary use case of Youtube downloads by Schezar · · Score: 1

    The primary use case of downloading a Youtube video is to use said video in another work. For example: a mashup or parody, or in a presentation at a convention where Internet access isn't guaranteed.

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  68. Now I remember by Trashcan+Romeo · · Score: 1

    This scared me into re-installing Firefox. After 10 minutes of having to re-start the browser after putting in every new extension - plus the butt-ugly interface - I remembered why I switched from Firefox to Chrome in the first place. Fuck it. Even crippled, Chrome will be more pleasant to use than that.

  69. UserScripts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    One of the things I liked most about Chrome is native support for most userscripts. This change appears to block them too!!

  70. Relevance, please? by mmell · · Score: 1
    I work in an enterprise with a CentOS/RHEL infrastructure, with the obligatory MicroSoft back-office technologies thrown in, of course. Chrome won't install or run correctly within our Linux infrastructure. From my perspective, it's good to see Google working hard to ensure that CentOS/RHEL users and Windows users enjoy the same end-user experience!

    Too bad. Google Chrome showed such great promise once . . .

  71. I for one welcome my new Google overlords... by Press2ToContinue · · Score: 1

    and their NSA comrades.

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  72. Re: Or, of course extensions that google doesn't l by ChunderDownunder · · Score: 2

    Well, potentially, because you want a consistent experience across devices, via settings, bookmarks, history etc via Firefox Sync.

    I've never used it personally (tin-foil hat...)

  73. Re: Or, of course extensions that google doesn't l by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Syncing settings, passwords and bookmarks is a lot easier when using the same browser between phones, tablets and desktop.

  74. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It is a simple regedit.exe job.

    Group policy is just registry settings delivered by the domain.

  75. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Sir_Sri · · Score: 1

    They blocked media hint a while ago.

    I don't know for sure about the others, but I wouldn't be surprised if that's exactly what is coming.

  76. Ugly browser by norite · · Score: 1

    It's an ugly browser. I tried it a while back and just could not get on with the minimalist interface and lack of useful addons. The deal breaker was not being able to move the scroll bar to the left hand side.

    Fastforward a few years and we get it installed at work. After a little while, I see that nothing's changed, I removed it and went back to a decent browser.

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  77. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Correction. Adblock Plus is available in Chrome Web Store.

    It's Youtube Downloaders that are not.

  78. 'Silly' annoyances by TheSeatOfMyPants · · Score: 1

    I'm surprised the lack of capital letters doesn't bother you, then. A lack of capitals or basic punctuation is what really bothers me, as not having those elements makes posts much more difficult for me to read.

    It doesn't bother me when users sign posts *if* they aren't inexplicably changing languages just to display their adoration for another culture. There was one user on a forum Ihung out on several years ago that went 'all the way' in that department: she posted a couple dozen times per day, and diligently placed an overly-cutesy "aloha ^_^" at the beginning and end of every single one.

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  79. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

    Did you read the thread I linked to?

    It's roughly 50% Windows admins whose GPO-fu is weak bitching because their registry hacks don't work anymore, and 50% Chromium developers telling them that, yes, sorry, Chrome queries group policy state directly, only falling back to the registry under specific conditions (and noting that they make no assurance that that fallback will continue in the future.)

    If that isn't enough, try a look at 'policy_loader_win.h'. It's fairly clear about reading the registry, rather than grovelling through the policies directly, is a fallback behavior that occurs only if grovelling through the policies doesn't work out.

  80. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Yeah, but Google also got rid of adblocking software from the Android Market (now Play Store) after allowing them for a couple of years. You can't find any of the apps like "Ad Free" that would basically block all ads in your browser and in apps if you were rooted. It's probably only a matter of time before Google does the same with Chrome.

  81. Stops involuntary addons by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I actually wish Firefox would do something like this. Every now and then Firefox picks up a plugin that I don't want, because some program I installed added it*. In fact right now I have two from Google! That's Google Earth and Google Updater. Also one from Adobe Reader, one from Mathematica, and best of all one from Canon, excuse me, that's CANON, because naturally I need a Firefox plugin to use my printer. No clue what any of them are supposed to do, didn't even know they were there until I went to update Java. Oh, almost forgot, Java installs two plugins not one! All of these plugins are disabled now that I know they're there; for some reason Firefox doesn't give you a way to actually remove them!

    I really view these plugins as malware. Which I guess means Google Earth and Mathemetica are malware. We already knew Flash was malware because it tries to install Google Chrome and a nice Ask toolbar. I would love it if Firefox would flat out block separate applications from installing plugins. Just give me a tool within Firefox to install local addons if I want to. Chrome should provide such a tool as well, and the fact that they skipped that part of the trade makes this pretty suspicious.

    *Much as programs get to add exceptions to Windows Firewall without my knowledge. And the point of a firewall is what again?

  82. AdBlock = 'Souled-Out" + Inferior by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ a faster level (ring 0) vs redundant browser addons (slowing up slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ OS, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization):

    ---

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (Details of hosts' benefits enumerated in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default) + Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse", or Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4127345&cid=44701775

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed or redirected DNS + secure vs. known malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3985079&cid=44310431 w/ less added "moving parts" complexity + room 4 breakdown,

    C.) Hosts files yield more speed (blocks ads & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote DNS), security (vs. malicious domains serving mal-content + block spam/phish), reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable DNS, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ ISP level + weak vs FastFlux + DynDNS botnets), & anonymity (vs. dns request logs + DNSBL's).

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    * "A fool makes things bigger + more complex: It takes a touch of genius & a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Einstein

    (Addons are more complex + slowup browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently - you'll see))

    ** "Less is more" = GOOD engineering!

    (Vs. slowing down SLOWER usermode browsers layering on MORE in addons which slow them down more: I work w/ what you have in kernelmode, via hosts - A tightly integrated PART of the IP stack itself)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is, quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work FOR the body, rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen "I AM LEGEND"

    ...apk

  83. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hurr duur. You do spend a lot of time defending Google on Slashdot.

    I think the idea is they could remove Adblock and nobody could side load it without installing Chromium...

  84. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Nimey · · Score: 1

    But see, hysteria, speculation, and conspiracy theories are a lot more fun than facts.

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  85. Maybe whatever planet you live by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Because here on earth, is just a few seconds.

  86. Chome had FAKE speed by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Even today, it still sucks at displaying websites right. Even Google made websites render horrendously bad on Chrome.

    Speed is nothing when the data fails to displayed property.

  87. AdBlock = 'Souled-Out" + Inferior by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ a faster level (ring 0) vs redundant browser addons (slowing up slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ OS, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization):

    ---

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (Details of hosts' benefits enumerated in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default) + Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse", or Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4127345&cid=44701775

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed or redirected DNS + secure vs. known malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3985079&cid=44310431 w/ less added "moving parts" complexity + room 4 breakdown,

    C.) Hosts files yield more speed (blocks ads & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote DNS), security (vs. malicious domains serving mal-content + block spam/phish), reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable DNS, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ ISP level + weak vs FastFlux + DynDNS botnets), & anonymity (vs. dns request logs + DNSBL's).

    ---

    * "A fool makes things bigger + more complex: It takes a touch of genius & a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Einstein

    (Addons are more complex + slowup browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently - you'll see))

    ** "Less is more" = GOOD engineering!

    (Vs. slowing down SLOWER usermode browsers layering on MORE in addons which slow them down more: I work w/ what you have in kernelmode, via hosts - A tightly integrated PART of the IP stack itself)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is, quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work FOR the body, rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen "I AM LEGEND"

    ...apk

  88. This is not as bad as it seems by techzomby · · Score: 1

    Youtube downloaders => Install them on Chrome dev channel, canary or switch to Linux/Mac/ChromeOS If you still want them on Windows stable, turn on developer mode in chrome://extensions And AdBlock is very much alive on Webstore: https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/adblock/gighmmpiobklfepjocnamgkkbiglidom It's obvious that Google is doing this to prevent crapware (installed by many naive Windows users) from hijacking your browser. If you're not a naive Windows user, why not move to dev channel?

  89. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by techzomby · · Score: 1

    Run them on Chrome dev channel or canary

  90. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I don't see the logic. As long as they can get away with it, 500000 VPN using paying subscribers are more profitable than 200000 lawful paying subscribers.

  91. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by leiz · · Score: 1

    This is due to Chrome's webrequest extension API: http://developer.chrome.com/extensions/webRequest.html

  92. I use chrome at work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    The firewall at work is very good at ensuring that nothing is installed from Google.
    Thanks Google! Now I will go and disable autoupdate and use my current version until this stupidity ends.

  93. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Severus+Snape · · Score: 1

    This is due to Chrome's webrequest extension API: http://developer.chrome.com/extensions/webRequest.html

    Thank you for this! Was looking for a reference to it.

  94. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    > AdBlock Plus for Chrome, from the official Google site

    You mean the adblock that was on Google Play for Android until http://techcrunch.com/2013/03/13/google-pulls-ad-blocking-apps-from-play-store-for-violating-developer-distribution-agreement/ ?

    There unfortunately seem to be so many naive like you to defend dick moves that it makes hard for the rest of us to motivate people for the good fights...

  95. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so far they did a good job to keep the real annoying ads (flash, blinking, sound) out of their ads.

    You mean like the full screen flash rollover doubleclick ads? Yeah, sorry, thats google. Even the annoying massive youtube ads? Yeah, thats google too.

    http://i.imgur.com/7S5jn1w.png

    If you want to shill for google, might want to try something thats not an obvious lie.

  96. Well, there went my only reason to use Chrome. by damnbunni · · Score: 1

    Quite literally the only reason I have Chrome installed is to use one very specific plugin that certainly wasn't installed through their store.

    Time to make sure I have the Chrome updater service disabled.

  97. IDM problem by harshal.tawade · · Score: 0

    Now I'll have to find all my extension and install them again, specially IDM. Oh no

  98. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by jalopezp · · Score: 1

    Run them on firefox.

  99. Re: Or, of course extensions that google doesn't l by L4t3r4lu5 · · Score: 1

    No need. Privoxy

    Remove advertisements before the data even hits the browser.

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  100. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Elbart · · Score: 1
  101. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Xiaran · · Score: 1

    I have never seen mediahint blocked and I use chrome to access US netflix from the UK. Here is the thing about that.... netflix know very very well that this is happening... they have to with the amount of ML profiling and monitoring they do. My account is clearly marked as a UK account and it would be trivial for them to check against that. But they don't. The do a geo test and if you pass that you get thru. They know... they don't care. It means more people will sign up for netflix if they can get both UK and US access.

  102. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by jalopezp · · Score: 1

    Well, fuck you, Jorge Villalobos and your stupid prd. Thanks for sharing that.

  103. AdBlock = 'Souled-Out" + Inferior by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ a faster level (ring 0) vs redundant browser addons (slowing up slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ OS, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization):

    ---

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (Details of hosts' benefits enumerated in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A.) Hosts do more than AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default) + Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse", or Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4127345&cid=44701775

    B.) Hosts add reliability vs. downed or redirected DNS + secure vs. known malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3985079&cid=44310431 w/ less added "moving parts" complexity + room 4 breakdown,

    C.) Hosts files yield more speed (blocks ads & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote DNS), security (vs. malicious domains serving mal-content + block spam/phish), reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable DNS, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ ISP level + weak vs FastFlux + DynDNS botnets), & anonymity (vs. dns request logs + DNSBL's).

    ---

    * "A fool makes things bigger + more complex: It takes a touch of genius & a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Einstein

    (Addons are more complex + slowup browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently - you'll see))

    ** "Less is more" = GOOD engineering!

    (Vs. slowing down SLOWER usermode browsers layering on MORE in addons which slow them down more: I work w/ what you have in kernelmode, via hosts - A tightly integrated PART of the IP stack itself)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is, quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work FOR the body, rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen "I AM LEGEND"

    ...apk

  104. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by RaceProUK · · Score: 1

    I have literally just this second installed AdBlock Plus in Chrome from Google's Chrome Web Store (the very link the GP posted).

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    No colour or religion ever stopped the bullet from a gun
  105. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by fulldecent · · Score: 1

    Adblock is financially supported by Google.

    --

    -- I was raised on the command line, bitch

  106. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by gravis777 · · Score: 1

    This was my thought. I have already gone to Firefox when viewing YouTube because the extensions don't work half of the time anymore under Chrome, and installing them is a pain in the butt.

  107. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by gravis777 · · Score: 1

    TubeMate is no longer in the Play store and you have to install by an alternative media site or downloading the apk. The YouTube downloaders I have seen in the Play store are either virus infected or just simply do not work - which may be why they are still there.

    YouTube downloaders are disappearing from the Chrome site, and you have to download the extensions from the developers sites and manually install them. The extensions that still do appear in the Chrome store mostly do not work with current Chrome builds (or rather, out of the half-dozen ones I have tried, none worked - I didn't bother checking more because I found one on a developers site that worked).

    If Chrome disables YouTube downloaders all together, I just won't use Chrome. There are many perfectly legal reasons for wanting to download videos from YouTube, the main reason be for showing videos in places that might not have Internet (ie some churches, lecture halls, my non-smart television, etc). And 99% of the time, it is not copyrighted (ie music videos, movie clips) that I am downloading.

    I also sometimes use YouTube's tools (such as video stabilizer) on my personal videos, and download them when it finishes processing. Google's war on YouTube downloaders has lead me to pretty much using Firefox with extensions or stand-alone programs to download videos.

  108. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    They uh...did remove those extensions. Anything that could download Youtube is against the ToS and not allowed in the chrome extension store. Here's an excerpt from the one I use "YouTube Options"

    To save FLV, MP4, WebM, 3D, and 3GP formats from YouTube and other select sites in all available resolutions, you must use the full version from the "Developer website" link.

    or this from "Video Downloader"

    Due to Chrome Webstore Policy users are not able to download Youtube Video. This is NOT Youtube Downloader!

    Blocking malware may even be the ultimate goal, as the extension system could be the easiest way to exploit chrome at this point, but the collateral damage is not negligible.

  109. Gaming extensions by multicsfan · · Score: 1

    I started using Chrome for a couple online games as the extensions were easier to deal with in chrome. If those extensions get blocked I have no use for chrome and it will go poof. I use FF as my main browser, but it seems the newer versions have become pretty unstable. Under my normal use I can usually crash FF hard enough it can't restore my sessions as when it tries it again crashes. The EA online game is very hard to play without the extensions and these are the extensions approved by EA.

  110. 12 things hosts do AdBlock fails on by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For added speed, security, reliability, & anonymity (i.e. -> ubiquitous versatility vs. INTENTIONALLY default crippled functionality):

    1.) AdBlock doesn't block rogue DNS malware makers use - hosts do.
    2.) AdBlock doesn't block known sites/servers of malware/malicious scripts - hosts do.
    3.) AdBlock doesn't speed up FAVORITE sites - hosts do
    4.) AdBlock can't blow past DNSBL's - hosts do.
    5.) AdBlock doesn't avoid DNS requestlogs - hosts do.
    6.) AdBlock doesn't protect vs. DOWNED or "DNS-poisoned" redirected DNS servers - hosts do.
    7.) AdBlock doesn't protect vs. "FastFlux" botnets - hosts do
    8.) Hosts = EASIER to self-manage: Textfile edit!
    9.) Hosts operate LONG before REDUNDANT plugins (& ON MORE + do more)
    10.) Plugins slowdown browsers (a message passing fact) - Stack a few up & see. Hosts, don't + operate in a far faster ring of privelege operation (ring 0/rpl 0/kernelmode, not slower ring 3/rpl 3/usermode as browsers & their addons do) starting up w\ OS + IP stack.
    11.) AdBlock ONLY works on Mozilla products (browser/email), hosts work on ANY webbound app & multiplatform.
    12.) AdBlock doesn't protect external to browser email programs, hosts do (OUTLOOK, Eudora, etc.)

    ---

    * You're outnumbered 12++:1...

    (So - you bait me out? Well - then, I KNOCK YOU OUT... it's THAT simple!)

    APK

    P.S.=> The "shotgun" just BLEW YOU AWAY by many orders of magnitude - & hosts are FAR easier to internally manage than a Proxy Auto Config (PAC) file - by FAR...

    ...apk

  111. Re:Or, of course extensions that google doesn't li by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Youutube downloaders are actually prohibited from the Google store. They allow downloaders for other sites, but if it downloads from youtube it's a violation of their TOS.

  112. You = inferior (outnumbered 40++:1) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    You can't disprove my points & many disagree w/ you-> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3137925&cid=41436069

    ( & that's ONLY 40 or so upmods on my postings on hosts from over a year ago - there's MORE now)!

    ---

    * YOU FAIL!

    ---

    Especially in your speaking out your ASS attempting to "speak for everyone" - when I produce evidence from your /. peers to QUITE the contrary vs. your b.s. in the link above!

    (You're FORCED to "Eat Your Words" troll - since you can't disprove facts I posted of hosts superiority over AdBlock + other browser addons, others reading my posts on hosts also up modding them vs. your erroneous lying words!)

    Thanks for the "deja-vu" though - since, as you can see, some fool made the SAME MISTAKE you have - opening your mouth, & inserting your foot!

    Don't worry:

    You can "wash it down" with "the BITTER TASTE OF SELF-DEFEAT", + words you're eating (lol), & your foot.

    APK

    P.S.=> So, you just KNOW I've just GOTTA say it, as-is-per-my-inimitable style utilizing obvious truth & verifiable concrete fact:

    THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'"...

    ... apk

  113. AdBlock = Inferior + "Souled-Out'... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ a faster level (ring 0) vs redundant browser addons (slowing up slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ OS, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization):

    ---

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (Details of hosts' benefits enumerated in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A. ) Hosts do more than AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default) + Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse", or Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4127345&cid=44701775

    B. ) Hosts add reliability vs. downed or redirected DNS + secure vs. known malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3985079&cid=44310431 w/ less added "moving parts" complexity + room 4 breakdown,

    C. ) Hosts files yield more speed (blocks ads & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote DNS), security (vs. malicious domains serving mal-content + block spam/phish), reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable DNS, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ ISP level + weak vs FastFlux + DynDNS botnets), & anonymity (vs. dns request logs + DNSBL's).

    ---

    * "A fool makes things bigger + more complex: It takes a touch of genius & a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Einstein

    (Addons are more complex + slowup browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently - you'll see))

    ** "Less is more" = GOOD engineering!

    (Vs. slowing down SLOWER usermode browsers layering on MORE in addons which slow them down more: I work w/ what you have in kernelmode, via hosts - A tightly integrated PART of the IP stack itself)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is, quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work FOR the body, rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen "I AM LEGEND"

    ...apk

  114. "1st they ignore you..." by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "...Then they ridicule you, then they fight you, & then you win" - Ghandi

    Since you were rated "FUNNY" for this quote from you next:

    "shushsh, the hosts file guy may hear you." - by Behrooz Amoozad (2831361) on Thursday November 07, 2013 @04:44PM (#45361051)

    I heard you, yet I also SEE YOU RUN from disproving -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4422297&cid=45372399

    Since you can't validly when those 12 points show how INFERIOR AdBlock & other browser addons are vs. custom HOSTS files (on NUMEROUS levels in better speed, security, reliability, & even anonymity (to an extent only on the latter final one though)).

    ---

    *Thus, per Ghandi - I win!

    (As always vs. you WEAK trolls & sock puppets...)

    APK

    P.S.=> How & Why? Simple -- Since the "best you've got" = zero & you know it, I know it, + so does anyone else with 1/2 a brain reading (considering it's OBVIOUS you're just a 7 digit "brand new" SOCKPUPPET/trolling account - nothing more)....

    ... apk

  115. AdBlock = Inferior + "Souled-Out" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ a faster level (ring 0) vs redundant browser addons (slowing up slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ OS, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization):

    ---

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (Details of hosts' benefits enumerated in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A. ) Hosts do more than AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default) + Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse", or Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4127345&cid=44701775

    B. ) Hosts add reliability vs. downed or redirected DNS + secure vs. known malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3985079&cid=44310431 w/ less added "moving parts" complexity + room 4 breakdown.

    C. ) Hosts files yield more speed (blocks ads & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote DNS), security (vs. malicious domains serving mal-content + block spam/phish), reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable DNS, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ ISP level + weak vs FastFlux + DynDNS botnets), & anonymity (vs. dns request logs + DNSBL's).

    ---

    * "A fool makes things bigger + more complex: It takes a touch of genius & a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Einstein

    (Addons are more complex + slowup browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently - you'll see))

    ** "Less is more" = GOOD engineering!

    (Vs. slowing down SLOWER usermode browsers layering on MORE in addons which slow them down more: I work w/ what you have in kernelmode, via hosts - A tightly integrated PART of the IP stack itself)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is, quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work FOR the body, rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen "I AM LEGEND"

    ...apk

  116. AdBlock = Inferior + 'Souled-Out' by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ a faster level (ring 0) vs redundant browser addons (slowing up slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ OS, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization):

    ---

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (Details of hosts' benefits enumerated in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A. ) Hosts do more than AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default) + Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse", or Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4127345&cid=44701775

    B. ) Hosts add reliability vs. downed or redirected DNS + secure vs. known malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3985079&cid=44310431 w/ less added "moving parts" complexity + room 4 breakdown,

    C. ) Hosts files yield more speed (blocks ads & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote DNS), security (vs. malicious domains serving mal-content + block spam/phish), reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable DNS, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ ISP level + weak vs FastFlux + DynDNS botnets), & anonymity (vs. dns request logs + DNSBL's).

    ---

    * "A fool makes things bigger + more complex: It takes a touch of genius & a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Einstein

    (Addons are more complex + slowup browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently - you'll see))

    ---

    ** "Less is more" = GOOD engineering!

    (Vs. slowing down SLOWER usermode browsers layering on MORE in addons which slow them down more: I work w/ what you have in kernelmode, via hosts - A tightly integrated PART of the IP stack itself)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is, quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work FOR the body, rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen "I AM LEGEND"

    ...apk

  117. AdBlock = Inferior + "Souled-Out" by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Hosts do more w/ less (1 file) @ a faster level (ring 0) vs redundant browser addons (slowing up slower ring 3 browsers) via filtering 4 the IP stack (coded in C, loads w/ OS, & 1st net resolver queried w\ 45++ yrs.of optimization):

    ---

    APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit:

    http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    (Details of hosts' benefits enumerated in link)

    Summary:

    ---

    A. ) Hosts do more than AdBlock ("souled-out" 2 Google/Crippled by default) + Ghostery (Advertiser owned) - "Fox guards henhouse", or Request Policy -> http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4127345&cid=44701775

    B. ) Hosts add reliability vs. downed or redirected DNS + secure vs. known malicious domains too -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3985079&cid=44310431 w/ less added "moving parts" complexity + room 4 breakdown,

    C. ) Hosts files yield more speed (blocks ads & hardcodes fav sites - faster than remote DNS), security (vs. malicious domains serving mal-content + block spam/phish), reliability (vs. downed or Kaminsky redirect vulnerable DNS, 99% = unpatched vs. it & worst @ ISP level + weak vs FastFlux + DynDNS botnets), & anonymity (vs. dns request logs + DNSBL's).

    ---

    * "A fool makes things bigger + more complex: It takes a touch of genius & a lot of courage to move in the opposite direction." - Einstein

    (Addons are more complex + slowup browsers in message passing (use a few concurrently - you'll see))

    ---

    ** "Less is more" = GOOD engineering!

    (Vs. slowing down SLOWER usermode browsers layering on MORE in addons which slow them down more: I work w/ what you have in kernelmode, via hosts - A tightly integrated PART of the IP stack itself)

    APK

    P.S.=> "The premise is, quite simple: Take something designed by nature & reprogram it to make it work FOR the body, rather than against it..." - Dr. Alice Krippen "I AM LEGEND"

    ...apk

  118. APK Hosts File Engine 9.0++ 32/64-bit... apk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Automate Production Kinetics of that job http://start64.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=5851:apk-hosts-file-engine-64bit-version&catid=26:64bit-security-software&Itemid=74

    * :)

    (Automation that makes the impossible, possible, for 1 person)

    APK

    P.S.=> It's an import/sort-deduplicate & processing engine that allows what a single otherwise unassisted person alone couldn't achieve in a century probably (let alone a day) in sort/deduplicate alone with sets WELL daily into the "high High HIGH" 1,000's typically in importing update data alone - let alone millions (as I have for decades daily - 2,183,442++ took a nearly 2 decades++ to build up to though here) ...

    apk

  119. Have MORE (50 others disagree w/ you) by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Did it ever occur to you that nobody reads your posts" - by shiftless (410350) on Friday November 08, 2013 @01:05PM (#45370223) FROM -> http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4422297&cid=45370223

    "Eat your words" vs. those of 50++ of your /. peers upmodding my posts on hosts then:

    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4146239&cid=44715063
    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4081759&cid=44546757
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3989671&cid=44321359
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3985079&cid=44310431
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3985079&cid=44311011
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3459251&cid=42894295
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3488893&cid=42993337
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3488893&cid=42993393
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3647643&cid=43447983
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3137925&cid=41429093
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=3397505&cid=42651965
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2940173&cid=40455449
    http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2734503&cid=39408607
    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2857487&cid=40034765
    http://mobile.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2644205&cid=38860239
    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2603836&cid=38586216
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2614186&cid=38658078
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2611414&cid=38639460
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2926641&cid=40383743
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2457766&cid=37592458
    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2059420&cid=35654066
    http://yro.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2457274&cid=37589596
    http://it.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2220314&cid=36372850
    http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=2116504&cid=35985584
    http://hardware.slashdot.org/comments

  120. you must be as shill. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If press the spacebar, it erases the hard drive and re-installs chrome from scratch.

    Liar. .. All Google did was enable a security feature by default, a feature that most people will want and which is easily bypassed.

    So you call the OP a liar, then say he was 100% correct in every detail? Astroturf much?

  121. You shouldn't talk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "Are you still talking?" - by shiftless (410350) on Monday November 11, 2013 @02:52PM (#45393747) Homepage

    Your mouth's full "eatin yer words"+FOOT in it http://tech.slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=4422297&cid=45389951 by a 50++:1 ratio of & by a "jury" of your /. peers reading & upmodding my posts on hosts as SOLID UNDENIABLE PROOF blowing your b.s away, easily - best part's I didn't DO the SAYING of it - your /. peers did.!

    So - What are you doing now?

    Oh, I KNOW (lol): "Washing 'em both down" (lol) with "the bitter taste of SELF-defeat" too!

    (It all shows you FAIL troll, & rather reprehensibly.. get over your "geek angst" fool - you FAILED!)

    ---

    * Suggestion: Change your username on /. to "ShiTless" (vs. your current "ShiftLess" since I easily "knocked the chocolate" (last word being polite for shit) out of you, by letting YOU do it to YOURSELF, lol!)

    ---

    (Funniest part = YOU did it to YOURSELF + Nice part for ME = I'll just toss it right back at you next time you "try* me... as I do with all of "your kind", troll).

    APK

    P.S.=> You fail, troll... THIS? This was just "too, Too, TOO EASY - just '2ez'".. &, it always is, vs. lame technically WEAK trolls that fail @ disproving points of mine (via valid tech means) that nigh ALWAYS have to resort to their "last resort" - trolling!

    ... apk

    1. Re:You shouldn't talk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Poor old APK his delusions of adequacy get worse all the time, every claimed win is more proof of how crazy delusional he is. Each post just makes him look more of a loser, to the point he is just.a source of amusement and a cure for boredom on a quiet day at work.

    2. Re:You shouldn't talk by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You came, illogical ad hominem attacks on apk, totally off topic. Come on. If you're attempting to kid anyone, it's only yourself.

  122. 50++:1 vs. you != delusion/inadequate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    FACT - 50:1 odds favor me over you - You're inadequate & YOU FAIL troll!

    No doubt about it!

    (That is unless you can show me that 50 of your /. peers upward moderating my posts on hosts is not greater than your 1, fool).

    * :)

    Since YOU are unable to face fact & truth?

    Well - You are clearly delusional as well...

    (What with your weakly *trying* to "take me on/get the better of me" probably WOULD do that to weak-minded FOOLS like you, lol - You're merely a TOTALLY cowardly weasel posting "pure ac" whose behind I kicked in as usual (when you obviously have a "registered 'luser'" account here on /. too)).

    ---

    Personally, I think it's funny as hell - lol!

    (That's right - I love it!)

    Especially since you've shown me + ANYONE else reading just how STUPID you are since you can't even accept the FACT that 50 of your /. peers slammed you & your b.s. into the dirt just "too, Too, TOO EASILY - just '2ez'ily" & as usual for me vs. you WEAK trolls, lol!

    APK

    P.S.=> After all - it's not MY fault you fools opened your mouths & inserted your feet into them, lol... & now You MUST "eat your words"!

    ---

    Please - DO tell us: HOW DOES EATING YOUR WORDS TASTE?

    ---

    (LOL - Must be pretty bad, considering your foot's in your mouth with them, & you must "wash both down" with the "bitter taste of SELF-defeat" also - LMAO...)

    ... apk