That seems strange to me. I am 40 something, responsible for the core code in our flagship product... Seriously, I can code circles around them in my sleep....
Yeah, that matches my experience too. I'm 50 now and I was just hired a few months ago in a company as a very senior dev; I'm hoping to make their pseudo-partner level this year. I also write the coding problems for our pre-interview questions and interview the candidates with others. It's so hard to find experienced or college hires who can do anything like first do algorithm design and code a solution. It's pretty much the same whether we give them pre-interview take home questions, or start at work. Every good dev has multiple offers and jobs already. I have a lot of experience working on database optimizer and execution engine implementation, and also distributed systems, but I'm not the god of the universe or anything.
It doesn't matter how old you are, just whether you are a decent software engineer. In my office, there are 3 of us who are about 50, 2 or 3 guys 40 ish, 1 person 25 or so, 2 or 3 25-35. We are coding in c++ 11 in one project, the server backend is java. We are in Seattle.
Ah yes, so we trade the problem of the missing semicolon for the problem of going between Windows and some other platform destroying our formatting and making our code into word salad. You know why we're still using semicolons? Because they're still useful. This is just as dumb as using indentation to control program flow, only a different dumb.
indention is stupid, curly braces are so much better, i hate python for that
You are wrong thinking this was a sjw conspiracy or something. Most people like diversity, and new, challenging ideas. Trying to railroad the process and being unhappy that a large majority doesn't like it is childish.
I have known one brogrammer in 20+ years as a professional dev. He was a huge pain in the ass. They are rare but I guess they exist. This was in Seattle.
[replying to the idea that coding only pays minimum wage] SOME coding jobs can be, but many cannot - there is aways going to be a market for good coders that pays far above minimum wage, and is also vastly more enjoyable than most other jobs.
Thank you, that is so true, it depends on where you live I guess. I work for a start up in Seattle, we pay market rates, and it's hard to even get people to interview with us. Send me a private message and I'll give you the link to the company. We'd like to hire UI, backend, dev ops, data scientist.
If you can't find a job, and you are a dev, come to seattle. If you don't believe me, look at glassdoor for companies in seattle. Google, microsoft, and amazon salaries for different kinds of devs seem accurate based on my personal experience. An intern makes $75k plus here in Seattle. Forget about minimum wage. If you live in a place where you are a software engineer and you make barely above minimum wage, you need to move. Those salaries at Glassdoor are not fake.
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That seems strange to me. I am 40 something, responsible for the core code in our flagship product... Seriously, I can code circles around them in my sleep. ...
Yeah, that matches my experience too. I'm 50 now and I was just hired a few months ago in a company as a very senior dev; I'm hoping to make their pseudo-partner level this year. I also write the coding problems for our pre-interview questions and interview the candidates with others. It's so hard to find experienced or college hires who can do anything like first do algorithm design and code a solution. It's pretty much the same whether we give them pre-interview take home questions, or start at work. Every good dev has multiple offers and jobs already. I have a lot of experience working on database optimizer and execution engine implementation, and also distributed systems, but I'm not the god of the universe or anything.
It doesn't matter how old you are, just whether you are a decent software engineer. In my office, there are 3 of us who are about 50, 2 or 3 guys 40 ish, 1 person 25 or so, 2 or 3 25-35. We are coding in c++ 11 in one project, the server backend is java. We are in Seattle.
Ah yes, so we trade the problem of the missing semicolon for the problem of going between Windows and some other platform destroying our formatting and making our code into word salad. You know why we're still using semicolons? Because they're still useful. This is just as dumb as using indentation to control program flow, only a different dumb.
indention is stupid, curly braces are so much better, i hate python for that
You are wrong thinking this was a sjw conspiracy or something. Most people like diversity, and new, challenging ideas. Trying to railroad the process and being unhappy that a large majority doesn't like it is childish.
I have known one brogrammer in 20+ years as a professional dev. He was a huge pain in the ass. They are rare but I guess they exist. This was in Seattle.
[replying to the idea that coding only pays minimum wage] SOME coding jobs can be, but many cannot - there is aways going to be a market for good coders that pays far above minimum wage, and is also vastly more enjoyable than most other jobs.
Thank you, that is so true, it depends on where you live I guess. I work for a start up in Seattle, we pay market rates, and it's hard to even get people to interview with us. Send me a private message and I'll give you the link to the company. We'd like to hire UI, backend, dev ops, data scientist. If you can't find a job, and you are a dev, come to seattle. If you don't believe me, look at glassdoor for companies in seattle. Google, microsoft, and amazon salaries for different kinds of devs seem accurate based on my personal experience. An intern makes $75k plus here in Seattle. Forget about minimum wage. If you live in a place where you are a software engineer and you make barely above minimum wage, you need to move. Those salaries at Glassdoor are not fake.