"people" ??? why not start with you... you seem so convinced by this... why don't you skip dinner every money from now on. That's a start, but obviously really eating less means skipping EVERY dinner.
One can't but wonder about why you leave out the school teachers in britain that get personally threatened for teaching evolution.
Instead, you're tracking cruises "with neocons". What does that have to do with this terrorism (using threats and fear to gain political objectives, in this case muslims using violence to get creationism teached in schools) ?
In case you're wondering... do I really expect an answer to this ? No... not at all.
"Natural" grain per hectare using "traditional" farming : 130 to 250 tonnes "Natural" grain per hectare using modern farming (read : insecticides, machines, automation,...) : 1060 tonnes GMO grain per hectare using modern farming : 2500 tonnes
So unless you want to cut the food supply in half. GMO grain is where it's at.
If you thought Christians are trouble when it concerns evolution, you're in for a rude awakening. Christians don't kill you. Don't threaten you. And they don't gang up on your family just because you don't "respect" creationism. Muslims do.
You know, just because in 80% of countries around the world there just isn't any discussion, that does not make it a given that evolution wins.
EVERY muslim university preaches creationism (even more stupid than that : young-earth creationism) Most Indian universities preach creationism and most Chinese also believe in creationism
That's 50% of the world where there isn't any discussion... creationism is the truth. The fact that there can even be discussion about this without violence in America is a very rare thing.
But you're cowards, so simply lamenting that the universities of ankara or teheran or baghdad for example preaches creationism, you just don't do. Because doing it, might get you actually hurt.
Exactly. Using this technology you could just go anywhere on the planet. And take a 10 MW power plant that doesn't need fuel and is the size of a small container with you. We could deliver power anywhere within hours of being notified.
Nuclear power plant fried in SouthEast thailand ? No problem, every last watt will be back up in 5 hours.
This would be a blessing for research, for starting new communities, for... You could have power during the polar night for reasearch stations.
Also if we are to have electricity refuelling stations for cars, we need a better grid. Now supposing you don't actually want to rebuild it with superconducting materials (which will make the billions it cost to build the first time look like spare change), something like this would be needed.
This, unlike most other "green" idiocy people tend to advocate here, can work. Solar panels on earth cannot work, because they will link the price of electricity and the price of food (since obviously these panels will have to be placed on areable land, near the cities).
Actually you forget the increased efficiency a system like this could have. I imagine the pentagon would want many of these stations.
These days at best 60% of power is actually delivered to the end customer, due to transmission losses (that's why high tension was a prerequisite for our modern electricity, we could generate oh 100 MW easily tens of years before that. However, once the power got transmitted more than a kilometer, only 10% would remain).
Delivering the power within 10 kilometers of every location that needs power would not just be great. It would allow 10 MW to be used nearly 90%. So one orbital platform that sends down 10 MW could replace at least 20MW of nuclear power.
Also, having real "factories" in space would make it real attractive to somehow produce these things on the moon (where you could just literally throw satellites into space).
I love this idea actually. If it can indeed work.
And weapons in space ? I'd just learn to live with them.
You can whine about your own theories till the sky turns blue. They -believe it or not- are not accurate.
You claim to believe science... except when it says something you don't want to hear ? Yet you claim it's Bush that's "killing" science. Only one thing is killing science... people like you attacking it for saying something they don't like.
You want your games, regardless of the victims it may cause, and you don't want to pay for the damage afterwards. That's fine by me actually for an opinion. But why not be honest about it ?
"As Yee himself says, they can be a contributing factor. However, I'd be willing to say that crazy people will always be crazy, and if games don't set them off, something else will. The problem isn't the games, it's that the person is crazy. Treat the problem, not the symptoms."
What exactly are you saying ? We should not outlaw violent games, we should wait and see who buys them, and then force them into a psychological program (or kill them ?) ?
Because if this isn't what you're saying, then I'm not reading correctly. Clearly you suggest doing something about these people, and you give a handy way of identifying them.
I just found a biographical article where, and I quote (in dutch though) "the filthy pig was born in the shit on 15 december"... and we're talking about a (bad) singer, not even a real controversial subject.
1) there is a (strong) correlation between violent video games and violence in real life 2) for a minority of test subjects the violence in real life is caused by video games 3) the games we are talking about as "violent" in these studies are real evil games like... missile command, nba jam,... we're not even talking about stuff like doom
This is what science says... so what is your answer "fuck violence on the street, I want to beat people up on computer screens, even if it means more people die !"
Or what, exactly is your opinion ? (and please don't bring up the lame excuse "it hasn't been proven"... to the satisfaction of just about every psychologist in america it HAS been proven)
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Right now, a lot of articles are just plain dishonest. Just look up some controversial subjects. Contemporary forced subjugation and kidnapping children into slavery by muslims for example, or look at Bush's page that contains references to falsified news...
No this is actually interesting. The foto's for example clearly illustrate that these people are not afraid of falsifying evidence, then denying they did so.
Which is a good thing to remember the next "atrocity" commited by, oh I don't know, Bush, Marine, Israeli soldier, republican senator, what have you...
Yes we do, the russians have experimented heavily with this.
Exercise does not prevent the human body from destroying it's skeleton. It won't work. Furthermore if they aren't infected with the "new" human diseases like on earth their immune system will be dangerously affected.
That, once 1 year on the moon, the human body would have become incapable of sustaining itself on earth ? Or has this little tidbit been conveniently ignored. We could send people there for long times, we are not capable of getting them back.
Going there, like Laika, is a one way ticket : no way back.
The Bush administration is not hostile to science. You just don't like em.
At WORST they interfere with funding for certain problems. Funding is of little use if you're doing theoretical science anyway (the only "real" science:-D).
You're just so spoiled that you actually believe that this is somehow censorship on you personally. Yet you have never faced an even minor real foe of freedom.
You're kidding right ? The mere fact that this post was made actually proves that it isn't true. Where are the black helicopters in your house ? Have your kids been kidnapped by a mad mob, like always tends to happen in islamic countries ? Have you been thrown out of the university, like any scholar that puts a toe out of line in islamic countries...
Isn't it nice for you, being the "rebel" with absolutely zero risk to yourself ? While you claim to be "morally superior" to scientists in the muslim world, who constantly fear for their lives.
Yet you run... no risk at all. But if Bush just left you alone there would be no risk for you... only Bush DOES leave you alone... oops. So you just imagine, and deny.
You're beyond pathetic. If you want a foe to fight, go research physics in Cairo. They're always looking for people. Then you will have something to complain about.
Your comments do not even merit any response. In Athens (I assume that's what you mean by ancient greece, right) women were free to roam about, enough at least for dozens of them to have sex with socrates.
Repressed women ? Perhaps it wasn't quite as free as today. But it was a LOT more free than current islamic countries.
Scientific progress in the soviet union was dropping at alarming rates. It's mostly lies, unfortunately. That said, they have some remarkably smart people there, who are afraid to do research, and don't have the money for it.
Life is not complex at all. Especially not complex in your meaning of the word. You use the word "complex" but what you mean is "whatever I say is right, everything else is misunderstood". Which is obvious nonsense.
Actually, if you actually LOOK at the facts on the ground you will see that the vast majority of the killing is comitted... by muslims against muslims.
This occured before, and during the iraq wars. Only now we KNOW. Your solution of "just close your eyes" will (obviously) simply lead to disaster, and more killing. But you "won't" know, and thus it's all dandy.
Are you really so dumb that you think I bear any responsability for this ? If anyone does bear responsability for these killings, it's the people aiding muslims, like you, that know full well their support will only lead to more violence and more killing.
I've been "raving" against islam because it's the right thing to do. So why don't you tell me what's your pick (a) islam (b) human rights
You can, obviously, pick only one. Note that article 30 of the human rights charter specifically states that nothing in the document protects anyone who is against human rights, so not only is islam incompatible with human rights, but also human rights is incompatible with islam.
Exactly... if a muslim government chooses to make it policy to kill blacks, we should all remain silent. After all defending blacks is racist... or was it attacking muslims ?
We should simply attack islam. After all it is against human rights, against democracy and against just about everything else we stand for.
No it's simply a "sudden" cry for attention. "Look how moral I am ! The evil chinese government witholds a super luxery from me, I am a terrible victim".
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"people" ??? why not start with you ... you seem so convinced by this ... why don't you skip dinner every money from now on. That's a start, but obviously really eating less means skipping EVERY dinner.
One can't but wonder about why you leave out the school teachers in britain that get personally threatened for teaching evolution.
... do I really expect an answer to this ? No ... not at all.
Instead, you're tracking cruises "with neocons". What does that have to do with this terrorism (using threats and fear to gain political objectives, in this case muslims using violence to get creationism teached in schools) ?
In case you're wondering
Well it's simple, really.
...) : 1060 tonnes
"Natural" grain per hectare using "traditional" farming : 130 to 250 tonnes
"Natural" grain per hectare using modern farming (read : insecticides, machines, automation,
GMO grain per hectare using modern farming : 2500 tonnes
So unless you want to cut the food supply in half. GMO grain is where it's at.
I do not just think that. And yes, for the moment this is not going to happen in (most of) America.
muslims inside england use terror to avoid evolution in biology lessons :
http://forums.muslimvillage.net/index.php?showtopic=37975
in france:
http://islamineurope.blogspot.com/2007/02/france-muslim-anti-evolutionist.html
This is in Turkey, the most moderate muslim nation existing (where both islamists and atheists massacre eachother, creating a balance) :
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/17/science/17book.html?_r=1&oref=slogin
If you thought Christians are trouble when it concerns evolution, you're in for a rude awakening. Christians don't kill you. Don't threaten you. And they don't gang up on your family just because you don't "respect" creationism. Muslims do.
You know, just because in 80% of countries around the world there just isn't any discussion, that does not make it a given that evolution wins.
... creationism is the truth. The fact that there can even be discussion about this without violence in America is a very rare thing.
EVERY muslim university preaches creationism (even more stupid than that : young-earth creationism)
Most Indian universities preach creationism
and most Chinese also believe in creationism
That's 50% of the world where there isn't any discussion
But you're cowards, so simply lamenting that the universities of ankara or teheran or baghdad for example preaches creationism, you just don't do. Because doing it, might get you actually hurt.
Lookup "transmission losses" ... oops ... that desert is ... mostly useless for solar power generation to the major cities.
Now laugh at yourself perhaps ?
Exactly. Using this technology you could just go anywhere on the planet. And take a 10 MW power plant that doesn't need fuel and is the size of a small container with you. We could deliver power anywhere within hours of being notified.
... You could have power during the polar night for reasearch stations.
Nuclear power plant fried in SouthEast thailand ? No problem, every last watt will be back up in 5 hours.
This would be a blessing for research, for starting new communities, for
Also if we are to have electricity refuelling stations for cars, we need a better grid. Now supposing you don't actually want to rebuild it with superconducting materials (which will make the billions it cost to build the first time look like spare change), something like this would be needed.
This, unlike most other "green" idiocy people tend to advocate here, can work. Solar panels on earth cannot work, because they will link the price of electricity and the price of food (since obviously these panels will have to be placed on areable land, near the cities).
Actually you forget the increased efficiency a system like this could have. I imagine the pentagon would want many of these stations.
These days at best 60% of power is actually delivered to the end customer, due to transmission losses (that's why high tension was a prerequisite for our modern electricity, we could generate oh 100 MW easily tens of years before that. However, once the power got transmitted more than a kilometer, only 10% would remain).
Delivering the power within 10 kilometers of every location that needs power would not just be great. It would allow 10 MW to be used nearly 90%. So one orbital platform that sends down 10 MW could replace at least 20MW of nuclear power.
Also, having real "factories" in space would make it real attractive to somehow produce these things on the moon (where you could just literally throw satellites into space).
I love this idea actually. If it can indeed work.
And weapons in space ? I'd just learn to live with them.
You can whine about your own theories till the sky turns blue. They -believe it or not- are not accurate.
... except when it says something you don't want to hear ? Yet you claim it's Bush that's "killing" science. Only one thing is killing science ... people like you attacking it for saying something they don't like.
You claim to believe science
You want your games, regardless of the victims it may cause, and you don't want to pay for the damage afterwards. That's fine by me actually for an opinion. But why not be honest about it ?
The problem is that it's not "1 or 2 in millions" that start acting violently in reaction to video games, but a large majority ... oops.
"As Yee himself says, they can be a contributing factor. However, I'd be willing to say that crazy people will always be crazy, and if games don't set them off, something else will. The problem isn't the games, it's that the person is crazy. Treat the problem, not the symptoms."
What exactly are you saying ? We should not outlaw violent games, we should wait and see who buys them, and then force them into a psychological program (or kill them ?) ?
Because if this isn't what you're saying, then I'm not reading correctly. Clearly you suggest doing something about these people, and you give a handy way of identifying them.
I just found a biographical article where, and I quote (in dutch though) "the filthy pig was born in the shit on 15 december" ... and we're talking about a (bad) singer, not even a real controversial subject.
What sort of idiots waste their time on this ?
1) there is a (strong) correlation between violent video games and violence in real life ... missile command, nba jam, ... we're not even talking about stuff like doom
... so what is your answer "fuck violence on the street, I want to beat people up on computer screens, even if it means more people die !"
... to the satisfaction of just about every psychologist in america it HAS been proven)
2) for a minority of test subjects the violence in real life is caused by video games
3) the games we are talking about as "violent" in these studies are real evil games like
This is what science says
Or what, exactly is your opinion ? (and please don't bring up the lame excuse "it hasn't been proven"
Has peaked a long time ago. Before
...
--- PARAGRAPH FOR DEMOCRATS ---
Fox news started to edit it
--- PARAGRAPH FOR REPUBLICANS ---
CNN and BBC started editing it
Right now, a lot of articles are just plain dishonest. Just look up some controversial subjects. Contemporary forced subjugation and kidnapping children into slavery by muslims for example, or look at Bush's page that contains references to falsified news
No this is actually interesting. The foto's for example clearly illustrate that these people are not afraid of falsifying evidence, then denying they did so.
...
Which is a good thing to remember the next "atrocity" commited by, oh I don't know, Bush, Marine, Israeli soldier, republican senator, what have you
This is the antiwar crowd, right ? Obviously Bush is "spying" on them you know.
*cough*
They're just crying for attention.
Yes we do, the russians have experimented heavily with this.
Exercise does not prevent the human body from destroying it's skeleton. It won't work. Furthermore if they aren't infected with the "new" human diseases like on earth their immune system will be dangerously affected.
That, once 1 year on the moon, the human body would have become incapable of sustaining itself on earth ? Or has this little tidbit been conveniently ignored. We could send people there for long times, we are not capable of getting them back.
Going there, like Laika, is a one way ticket : no way back.
The Bush administration is not hostile to science. You just don't like em.
:-D).
At WORST they interfere with funding for certain problems. Funding is of little use if you're doing theoretical science anyway (the only "real" science
You're just so spoiled that you actually believe that this is somehow censorship on you personally. Yet you have never faced an even minor real foe of freedom.
You're kidding right ? The mere fact that this post was made actually proves that it isn't true. Where are the black helicopters in your house ? Have your kids been kidnapped by a mad mob, like always tends to happen in islamic countries ? Have you been thrown out of the university, like any scholar that puts a toe out of line in islamic countries ...
... no risk at all. But if Bush just left you alone there would be no risk for you ... only Bush DOES leave you alone ... oops. So you just imagine, and deny.
Isn't it nice for you, being the "rebel" with absolutely zero risk to yourself ? While you claim to be "morally superior" to scientists in the muslim world, who constantly fear for their lives.
Yet you run
You're beyond pathetic. If you want a foe to fight, go research physics in Cairo. They're always looking for people. Then you will have something to complain about.
You're beyond pathetic.
Your comments do not even merit any response. In Athens (I assume that's what you mean by ancient greece, right) women were free to roam about, enough at least for dozens of them to have sex with socrates.
Repressed women ? Perhaps it wasn't quite as free as today. But it was a LOT more free than current islamic countries.
Scientific progress in the soviet union was dropping at alarming rates. It's mostly lies, unfortunately. That said, they have some remarkably smart people there, who are afraid to do research, and don't have the money for it.
Life is not complex at all. Especially not complex in your meaning of the word. You use the word "complex" but what you mean is "whatever I say is right, everything else is misunderstood". Which is obvious nonsense.
Actually, if you actually LOOK at the facts on the ground you will see that the vast majority of the killing is comitted ... by muslims against muslims.
This occured before, and during the iraq wars. Only now we KNOW. Your solution of "just close your eyes" will (obviously) simply lead to disaster, and more killing. But you "won't" know, and thus it's all dandy.
Are you really so dumb that you think I bear any responsability for this ? If anyone does bear responsability for these killings, it's the people aiding muslims, like you, that know full well their support will only lead to more violence and more killing.
I've been "raving" against islam because it's the right thing to do. So why don't you tell me what's your pick
(a) islam
(b) human rights
You can, obviously, pick only one. Note that article 30 of the human rights charter specifically states that nothing in the document protects anyone who is against human rights, so not only is islam incompatible with human rights, but also human rights is incompatible with islam.
So let's see your choice.
Exactly ... if a muslim government chooses to make it policy to kill blacks, we should all remain silent. After all defending blacks is racist ... or was it attacking muslims ?
We should simply attack islam. After all it is against human rights, against democracy and against just about everything else we stand for.
the "cairo declaration" will lead you to the wrong article
"Can I call this a sudden attack of morality?"
No it's simply a "sudden" cry for attention. "Look how moral I am ! The evil chinese government witholds a super luxery from me, I am a terrible victim".