Too many fuckers running around thinking they have a right to tell everyone what they can do. Why are obsolete Christianity-based laws against gay marriage, prostitution, gambling, etc allowed to exist in the 21st century?
Because you elected them. Idiot.
Holy crap, the US is !@#$%^. What a mess you've made of yourselves.
You forgot to post an email address so that we can verify you being in violation of our patent.
We suggest you tell your Mom to go to her sister's place. There's an ICBM on its way to you as our reply to your demand. Please call your lawyer and tell him to join you to hold your hand. Have a nice day.
Afraid someone else was the pilot. Bush was in the back seat.
Wow. I did not know that. I thought he was showing off his Air National Guard training, and he didn't even do that. What a shrubbery. I'll bet he even peed himself on the landing.
You guys need to find better people to be Presidents (& etc). Holy !@#$.
He landed a fighter jet on a flat top, so he couldn't have been a complete moron; assuming he actually did that himself (as opposed to someone remotely operating the thing for him). I can't say he did much else that impressed me. However, I'm not easily impressed.
No, I'm not much impressed by Obama's record so far either.
Isn't the whole point of having a government that it's to protect you from predators like this because nothing else can? If not, then what is it for?
The government isn't on your side. Your Lawyer is supposed to be...
Drank the Koolaid, have you?
... but then if you think the Government should control all lawyers, what do you have left?
Jaded much? Ever heard of The Constitution? The thing that tells your government what it's not allowed to fiddle with? Yours appears to be broken/insufficient. Have a nice day.:-P
When has any hovernment NOT looking out for the interests of the [rich, elite class, etc.] over the common person? Haven't read much political history have you?
You epitomize what I despise most reading about. Ignorant, uneducated boors pontificating their "shallow as a pane of glass" worldview as if they're established fact that everyone should know and agree with. Of course you can't spell, proofread, or offer a shred of proof to support your opinion.
I'm a libertarian, so I generally don't cheer government as the magic pixie dust that holds civilization together, but that's a lot better than being an ignorant fool like yourself.
Go read an encyclopedia (at your level, wikipedia will do). See Athens, Greece. Yeah, they had slaves. Everybody did then. Compare with Sparta. In many people's eyes, it was ugly. Ask the Persian god Xerxes. Switzerland, where every healthy man is mandated to be part of the militia, keeping his weapon in order along with regular training. Israel is also pretty obvious. 1776 USA.
Government doesn't have to be a malevolent force preying on its own citizens and others. It can be the fulcrum that leverages cooperation among the citizenry. Instead, apathy allows it to become the former.
I'm ashamed to share a planet with people who are as lazy minded as you.
Sorry, I RTFA (bad form) and I missed the part where the government is extorting money from people for scanning and emailing documents
You would, because it doesn't work that way. People extort money from other people using the government. The extortionists then pay the government for the privilege of being allowed to extort.
That's not how it was when it started, but that does appear to be the way that succeeding generations have allowed it to become.
Or the naive assumtion that once in office one will act differently than the other. After all, you're the product that they're selling out to their real benefactors.
Whilst the Popesters and catholics may want you to think and believe that Vatican City always is and always has been considered a state, it was not considered at state unto itself until 1929 by the Lateran Treaty [wikipedia.org].
True, but it always did go out of its way to act like one, even when it wasn't one. The TV show "The Borgias" show an example of it. Then there's the Holy Roman Empire.
remember the debian ssh key fiasco. How many people still use some of these not-so-random keys?
I boubt very many, if any. As soon as it was discovered, the next thing we saw was an update that forcibly disabled them. I suppose there may be Debian installs out there where apt-get update's never been configured or run, but I don't have much sympathy for them. They may as well be botnet fodder by now.
I remember is as a humbling experience, but educational and nobody died. Trust, but verify.
You could copy the files to some unprivileged user home dir and have the servers run a cronjob to mv and chown the files as needed.
Yeah... Where I come from, that's called "a hack." It shouldn't be necessary, it's kind of ugly, and it can be done better/more securely/more robustly the right way.
Alternatively (shocker, I know), they could just learn how to harden their box. Every box I've heard of that was broken into was either misconfigured or running a crap OS, or wizards were intent on getting in. I think the latter very seldom happens. Basic "best practices" security should be all anyone really needs (if they're not running a crap OS).
To the vast majority of human kind, the stuff that you and I and people like us consider boring, is rocket science. Which is why you find yourself explaining how switches work/don't work, to geeks.
I often wonder how "regular people" (like my Mom) get through the day having no inkling of how any of this stuff works. Newton and Einstein must have wondered about this often.
Possibly, but what if he's supporting PLCs controlling critical infrastructure, which as everyone here screams shouldn't be accessible from outside? Iran's well aware of the damage an insider can do with just a USB key.
ssh is great, but it's not magical and can't solve every problem. xkcd comes to mind...
... if you're doing work, you come to work to do it.
I have a better idea. I'll work from home (or wherever I may be at the moment) with the plethora of tools I have at my fingertips, not jeopardizing the security of your network. I can do development here with no distractions from you and your fellow lackeys. If I need anything from you, you can mail it to me. If I'm to support your servers instead, give me the email address of a lackey who knows how to cut+paste commands I send him/her into a terminal window. No, you may not have my phone no. I've no need to speak with you. All you need to do is keep the cheques coming. Deal? Take or leave it. Others are waiting...
This seems bad. My ISP should not be interfering with traffic.
No, it's good. Your ISP is reponsible for, and should be policing, its IP space. I've had no trouble using my ISP's Smarthost on any of the five providers I've used in the past two decades. There's been no valid excuse for allowing open mail relays for a long time, and certainly not now. There's too many people out there who are utterly incapable of knowing what their system could be up to behind their backs. It falls on individual ISPs to do it for them, for the good of all of the rest of us.
Last I heard (a couple of years ago), ca. 80+% of traffic on the net was spam and malware. We don't need clueless imbeciles adding to the problem.
I thought one of the main arguements of gun proponents was that criminals already knew where to get illicit guns. Now you're telling me they didn't actually know but now the paper has opened the floodgates?
No, now the places they go to get guns will have many more for them to choose from. Nice try.
yep, owned by people who thought having a gun made them a "big" person
The ignorance is strong with you today.
Imagine you're a little old lady (or man) on your way home with the rent money you just pulled out of an ATM, and you notice three people following you. You do the math. Jerk.
Guns are first and foremost designed for causing bodily harm...
Indoctrinated much? Yes, they are designed for causing bodily harm. You can threaten to use one while robbing a bank. A little old lady walking home from her job late at night can threaten to use hers against muggers.
I'd prefer she was armed, and you appear to prefer she wasn't. Why?
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Too many fuckers running around thinking they have a right to tell everyone what they can do. Why are obsolete Christianity-based laws against gay marriage, prostitution, gambling, etc allowed to exist in the 21st century?
Because you elected them. Idiot.
Holy crap, the US is !@#$%^. What a mess you've made of yourselves.
You forgot to post an email address so that we can verify you being in violation of our patent.
We suggest you tell your Mom to go to her sister's place. There's an ICBM on its way to you as our reply to your demand. Please call your lawyer and tell him to join you to hold your hand. Have a nice day.
Afraid someone else was the pilot. Bush was in the back seat.
Wow. I did not know that. I thought he was showing off his Air National Guard training, and he didn't even do that. What a shrubbery. I'll bet he even peed himself on the landing.
You guys need to find better people to be Presidents (& etc). Holy !@#$.
I'm reminded of Bush Jr.'s "bring it on".
He landed a fighter jet on a flat top, so he couldn't have been a complete moron; assuming he actually did that himself (as opposed to someone remotely operating the thing for him). I can't say he did much else that impressed me. However, I'm not easily impressed.
No, I'm not much impressed by Obama's record so far either.
[sorry for all the "impressed".]
Isn't the whole point of having a government that it's to protect you from predators like this because nothing else can? If not, then what is it for?
The government isn't on your side. Your Lawyer is supposed to be ...
Drank the Koolaid, have you?
... but then if you think the Government should control all lawyers, what do you have left?
Jaded much? Ever heard of The Constitution? The thing that tells your government what it's not allowed to fiddle with? Yours appears to be broken/insufficient. Have a nice day. :-P
When has any hovernment NOT looking out for the interests of the [rich, elite class, etc.] over the common person? Haven't read much political history have you?
You epitomize what I despise most reading about. Ignorant, uneducated boors pontificating their "shallow as a pane of glass" worldview as if they're established fact that everyone should know and agree with. Of course you can't spell, proofread, or offer a shred of proof to support your opinion.
I'm a libertarian, so I generally don't cheer government as the magic pixie dust that holds civilization together, but that's a lot better than being an ignorant fool like yourself.
Go read an encyclopedia (at your level, wikipedia will do). See Athens, Greece. Yeah, they had slaves. Everybody did then. Compare with Sparta. In many people's eyes, it was ugly. Ask the Persian god Xerxes. Switzerland, where every healthy man is mandated to be part of the militia, keeping his weapon in order along with regular training. Israel is also pretty obvious. 1776 USA.
Government doesn't have to be a malevolent force preying on its own citizens and others. It can be the fulcrum that leverages cooperation among the citizenry. Instead, apathy allows it to become the former.
I'm ashamed to share a planet with people who are as lazy minded as you.
Sorry, I RTFA (bad form) and I missed the part where the government is extorting money from people for scanning and emailing documents
You would, because it doesn't work that way. People extort money from other people using the government. The extortionists then pay the government for the privilege of being allowed to extort.
That's not how it was when it started, but that does appear to be the way that succeeding generations have allowed it to become.
Would you want to live in a society where the Government had total power to control Lawyers?
Isn't the whole point of having a government that it's to protect you from predators like this because nothing else can? If not, then what is it for?
Or the naive assumtion that once in office one will act differently than the other. After all, you're the product that they're selling out to their real benefactors.
Whilst the Popesters and catholics may want you to think and believe that Vatican City always is and always has been considered a state, it was not considered at state unto itself until 1929 by the Lateran Treaty [wikipedia.org].
True, but it always did go out of its way to act like one, even when it wasn't one. The TV show "The Borgias" show an example of it. Then there's the Holy Roman Empire.
This article is pretty much about me.
The first step on the road to redemption is recognizing you have a problem. Welcome into the light.
remember the debian ssh key fiasco. How many people still use some of these not-so-random keys?
I boubt very many, if any. As soon as it was discovered, the next thing we saw was an update that forcibly disabled them. I suppose there may be Debian installs out there where apt-get update's never been configured or run, but I don't have much sympathy for them. They may as well be botnet fodder by now.
I remember is as a humbling experience, but educational and nobody died. Trust, but verify.
You could copy the files to some unprivileged user home dir and have the servers run a cronjob to mv and chown the files as needed.
Yeah ... Where I come from, that's called "a hack." It shouldn't be necessary, it's kind of ugly, and it can be done better/more securely/more robustly the right way.
Alternatively (shocker, I know), they could just learn how to harden their box. Every box I've heard of that was broken into was either misconfigured or running a crap OS, or wizards were intent on getting in. I think the latter very seldom happens. Basic "best practices" security should be all anyone really needs (if they're not running a crap OS).
Nobody is getting a DIME from me for a GNU/Linux OS until they pull their shit together and modernize that decrepit system software.
Wow. The dumth! I wouldn't work for you even if you tossed your sister into the deal. Wow. "User Error"^^999999999999999 ...
Then I would create a separate key for that service and restrict what it was allowed to do on remote end.
"Math is hard." -- Barbie.
It's not exactly rocket science.
To the vast majority of human kind, the stuff that you and I and people like us consider boring, is rocket science. Which is why you find yourself explaining how switches work/don't work, to geeks.
I often wonder how "regular people" (like my Mom) get through the day having no inkling of how any of this stuff works. Newton and Einstein must have wondered about this often.
You, sir, are living in the 20th century.
Possibly, but what if he's supporting PLCs controlling critical infrastructure, which as everyone here screams shouldn't be accessible from outside? Iran's well aware of the damage an insider can do with just a USB key.
ssh is great, but it's not magical and can't solve every problem. xkcd comes to mind ...
... if you're doing work, you come to work to do it.
I have a better idea. I'll work from home (or wherever I may be at the moment) with the plethora of tools I have at my fingertips, not jeopardizing the security of your network. I can do development here with no distractions from you and your fellow lackeys. If I need anything from you, you can mail it to me. If I'm to support your servers instead, give me the email address of a lackey who knows how to cut+paste commands I send him/her into a terminal window. No, you may not have my phone no. I've no need to speak with you. All you need to do is keep the cheques coming. Deal? Take or leave it. Others are waiting ...
This seems bad. My ISP should not be interfering with traffic.
No, it's good. Your ISP is reponsible for, and should be policing, its IP space. I've had no trouble using my ISP's Smarthost on any of the five providers I've used in the past two decades. There's been no valid excuse for allowing open mail relays for a long time, and certainly not now. There's too many people out there who are utterly incapable of knowing what their system could be up to behind their backs. It falls on individual ISPs to do it for them, for the good of all of the rest of us.
Last I heard (a couple of years ago), ca. 80+% of traffic on the net was spam and malware. We don't need clueless imbeciles adding to the problem.
I thought one of the main arguements of gun proponents was that criminals already knew where to get illicit guns. Now you're telling me they didn't actually know but now the paper has opened the floodgates?
No, now the places they go to get guns will have many more for them to choose from. Nice try.
Sauce for the goose or, home address and phone number of Journal-News publisher [wordpress.com] ...
That's about the funniest and most "en pointe" post in this discussion. Thanks.
Janet Hasson herself is married with one child, and her personal interests, as culled from her credit card records, are noted below:
Funnyyyyy! Enjoy your fifteen minutes of fame, Janet.
Hence, making all guns illegal actually prevents guns being obtained illegally.
If you really think you can prevent the flow of firearms to people who really really want them, you're seriously delusional.
Indeed. All that would do is pump up the price, enriching illegal gun sellers. Cf. the "War On Drugs."
yep, owned by people who thought having a gun made them a "big" person
The ignorance is strong with you today.
Imagine you're a little old lady (or man) on your way home with the rent money you just pulled out of an ATM, and you notice three people following you. You do the math. Jerk.
Guns are first and foremost designed for causing bodily harm ...
Indoctrinated much? Yes, they are designed for causing bodily harm. You can threaten to use one while robbing a bank. A little old lady walking home from her job late at night can threaten to use hers against muggers.
I'd prefer she was armed, and you appear to prefer she wasn't. Why?
Show me one case of an anti-gun zealot doing anything wrong against a pro-gun owner.
I'm not sure he qualifies as anti-gun, but you do remember Adolf Hitler disarming the German citizenry?
Just one is all I ask, never mind a Holocaust.
... Which lead to that (among other unpleasantness).