Evil? Immoral? Putrid or rancid? Three sides of one coin, if you're ignorant of root cause.
You may have something there as to dietary law, but I'm not sure you're going to be able to follow that path and get close to:
YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.
I don't have to. It's a different path.
I'm an atheist, but it's still not that hard to do. Personally, I prefer to go back about a thousand years to Aristotle (paraphrased): "We love in others that which we see in them of ourselves."
There are many facets to this story of which your are unaware.
Yes, there are. I've been hearing about it for about a week, but have been trying to avoid it: i) she's gone, so I can't help her any longer. ii) I'm not a voyeur. iii) the full story will eventually come out. That's better than speculating. iv)...
Excuse me? Since when has religion had much to do with morality?
I guess you've missed a few thousand years of history?
Perhaps he has, but I haven't. Look, only a few hundred years ago people had no idea there were such things as microbes or viruses. People had no idea why poorly cooked meat was dangerous. People thought that things that smelled badly smelled badly because they were evil, or were infused with evil spirits. People decided pork was evil because pigs were dirty animals (not true, but they decided it anyway; they had very little good intel to go on then).
Evil? Immoral? Putrid or rancid? Three sides of one coin, if you're ignorant of root cause.
The purpose of proceeding historically is to substantiate the claim that morality and religion have been inseparable until very recently, and that our moral vocabulary is still deeply infused with this history.
As much as I respect Stanford, this is stupid. Morality, if we equate it with fear of death, have been inseparable due to ignorance. Had they known about microbes and the true cause of disease, they wouldn't have overloaded the word "morality." It'd have just been yet another phenom that people needed to deal with. Instead, through ignorance of microbes and viruses, religion wormed (pun intended) its way into their psyche.
I don't equate morality with fear of death. I equate it with right vs. wrong, good vs. evil, benevolent vs. predatory, cooperation vs. confrontation,...
Thanks, but no, I don't want any of your rotten fish. You Euros eat the strangest things, sometimes.
I mean, what were they thinking stuffing her up with such prudery that she came to believe her life was over once she'd bared her breasts and it became public? Cf. the British Royal family. They've done lots of far dumber things, recently even.
If I were her dad, I'd have sat her down and told her, "Blow it all off. It don't matter, and they're all just jealous, or pervs. You be proud of yourself. Besides (lifts his shirt), look at me. I've got a chest and even nipples. Big deal. Now go play with your friends and don't worry about it. Stand tall girl. You've nothing to be ashamed of."
I wish I could tell this to every kid entering puberty. Just stick it out, and when you get used to those hormones raging through you, you'll be able to handle it and will probably even enjoy it. It's just a phase we all go through. Hang in there. It won't be long now.
Oh, and the next time you see that jerk, kick him right in his piss-pump, just so he'll never forget how stupid he was letting you get away.
I wish liberals understand that if they have retain the right to insult me, I am retaining the right to respond in a manner suitable for a man.
I retain the right to giggle and roll around on the ground laughing my ass off at you. You'd pull a gun for an insult? I'd laugh in their face at their ignorance.
It is not, and never has been, a barrier; it's a hurdle.
You're mistaken. Back then, approaching the speed of sound, every plane went into a phase of uncontrollable buffeting. The theory back then was any faster and any plane would break apart. Yeager's X-1 flight proved it wasn't true. Past the speed of sound, you fly faster than the turbulence and it's as smooth as silk.
I'm glad to hear Chuck's still flying, and not in a liquid fueled bomb.
Libertarianism is rather extreme and tends to ignore human nature to a shocking degree.
Please, educate yourself: Libertarianism. If you don't think typical "Liberals" and "Conservatives" ignore human nature to a shocking degree, you must live in a cave.
So, it's okay to set my little sister on fire if I think I'm not getting enough food or attention from Mommy? How about if your little brother sets you on fire for the same reasons? Avian chicks push the weakest chick out of the nest, so it's natural, right?
I think humanity invented civilization in order to dull the edges of that sort of psychopathy. Capitalism is an economic system designed to maximize profit and minimize costs and is exemplary in rewarding its best practitioners and innovators. Its downside is that profit attracts second handers and freeloaders (including politicians), and many capitalists aren't principled enough to turn them away. They think getting ahead is getting ahead regardless of how low (morally and/or ethically) they have to sink to do it.
It has at times been a terrific system until the politicians inevitably mucked it up with descriminatory tarriffs, regulatory capture, protectionism, & etc.
Yes, a perfect example of why we came up with the "Blah blah blah (Bbb)" construct, so no-one would go tripping off to "Grand Trunk Railroad" when "General Theory of Relativity" was intended.:-P
Sigh. Maybe the "editors" should outsource editing to/. readers. Email the submission to five/. readers you trust, tell 'em to review it and write a summary, then the "editor" picks one of the submissions which will be the summary/submission.
"Editor" problem solved. You're welcome. I guess I should patent it now.
This is reality we're talking about after all (except for the many worlds, that is philosophy).
Are you sure? No. Even Hawking has weighed in on this (A Brief History of Time). Assuming our Universe is a self-contained bubble, what's outside the bubble? What came before, and what comes next?
Physics is all the ideas about the universe that have meaningful applications to the real world, and philosophy is everything else.
No. The first part is true, I agree. However, philosophy is not as fluffy as you assume it to be. Right vs. wrong. Ethics, morality, evil, virtuous,... Epistemology,... These are not nothing.
Are you sure? Gays don't reproduce, except via adoption. Your "biological essence" ends with you. All of your forebears' efforts were for nought. Are you okay with that? Much like someone who had a vasectomy, you don't count in the long run. Still okay with that?
Just sayin'. Biologically speaking, gays == vasectomied males. In the long run. Not that there's anything bad about that. We have the right to choose.
I really should start posting my own words and not some other guy's cartoons.
You might think that, but you'd be mistaken, at best. xkcd is my browser's homepage, yet I still have no idea how you guys do it (as in keep up with xkcd). Then again:
Free will gives you the tools to educate yourself, or not. Your choice.
If you sell 1L of pop in one glass, advertising it as a one-person deal, people who don't know better will assume that it's ok [to] drink that much.
If you fall for that pitch, all the while watching your weight balloon past 300 lb., then blame it on "the corporations!" purveyors of said 1L sugary drinks, you just make yourself look like a weak minded "consumer", as opposed to a thinking individual.
Still confused, sorry. I've taken two passes through this story's comments so far, and it gets foggier each time.
I'm still wondering why big sugar filled drinks is the most important thing on "The Authoritays" minds. Don't they have anything better to do? Terrists? Big Macs? Twinkies?
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Evil? Immoral? Putrid or rancid? Three sides of one coin, if you're ignorant of root cause.
You may have something there as to dietary law, but I'm not sure you're going to be able to follow that path and get close to:
YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF.
I don't have to. It's a different path.
I'm an atheist, but it's still not that hard to do. Personally, I prefer to go back about a thousand years to Aristotle (paraphrased): "We love in others that which we see in them of ourselves."
There are many facets to this story of which your are unaware.
Yes, there are. I've been hearing about it for about a week, but have been trying to avoid it: i) she's gone, so I can't help her any longer. ii) I'm not a voyeur. iii) the full story will eventually come out. That's better than speculating. iv) ...
Thx for the youtube link.
Poor kid. Very, very sad.
Excuse me? Since when has religion had much to do with morality?
I guess you've missed a few thousand years of history?
Perhaps he has, but I haven't. Look, only a few hundred years ago people had no idea there were such things as microbes or viruses. People had no idea why poorly cooked meat was dangerous. People thought that things that smelled badly smelled badly because they were evil, or were infused with evil spirits. People decided pork was evil because pigs were dirty animals (not true, but they decided it anyway; they had very little good intel to go on then).
Evil? Immoral? Putrid or rancid? Three sides of one coin, if you're ignorant of root cause.
The purpose of proceeding historically is to substantiate the claim that morality and religion have been inseparable until very recently, and that our moral vocabulary is still deeply infused with this history.
As much as I respect Stanford, this is stupid. Morality, if we equate it with fear of death, have been inseparable due to ignorance. Had they known about microbes and the true cause of disease, they wouldn't have overloaded the word "morality." It'd have just been yet another phenom that people needed to deal with. Instead, through ignorance of microbes and viruses, religion wormed (pun intended) its way into their psyche.
I don't equate morality with fear of death. I equate it with right vs. wrong, good vs. evil, benevolent vs. predatory, cooperation vs. confrontation, ...
Thanks, but no, I don't want any of your rotten fish. You Euros eat the strangest things, sometimes.
Whose fault was it?
Her parents.
I mean, what were they thinking stuffing her up with such prudery that she came to believe her life was over once she'd bared her breasts and it became public? Cf. the British Royal family. They've done lots of far dumber things, recently even.
If I were her dad, I'd have sat her down and told her, "Blow it all off. It don't matter, and they're all just jealous, or pervs. You be proud of yourself. Besides (lifts his shirt), look at me. I've got a chest and even nipples. Big deal. Now go play with your friends and don't worry about it. Stand tall girl. You've nothing to be ashamed of."
I wish I could tell this to every kid entering puberty. Just stick it out, and when you get used to those hormones raging through you, you'll be able to handle it and will probably even enjoy it. It's just a phase we all go through. Hang in there. It won't be long now.
Oh, and the next time you see that jerk, kick him right in his piss-pump, just so he'll never forget how stupid he was letting you get away.
We all have feed readers.
Doh! I'd never noticed that xkcd had that RSS icon in its location bar. Thanks.
If this means that we can bomb the shit out of anyone who burns an American (or European) Flag, then I say let's do it.
You give ACs a bad name. Go back to school, and come back when you reach at least twelve years old.
I wish liberals understand that if they have retain the right to insult me, I am retaining the right to respond in a manner suitable for a man.
I retain the right to giggle and roll around on the ground laughing my ass off at you. You'd pull a gun for an insult? I'd laugh in their face at their ignorance.
It is not, and never has been, a barrier; it's a hurdle.
You're mistaken. Back then, approaching the speed of sound, every plane went into a phase of uncontrollable buffeting. The theory back then was any faster and any plane would break apart. Yeager's X-1 flight proved it wasn't true. Past the speed of sound, you fly faster than the turbulence and it's as smooth as silk.
I'm glad to hear Chuck's still flying, and not in a liquid fueled bomb.
Libertarianism is rather extreme and tends to ignore human nature to a shocking degree.
Please, educate yourself: Libertarianism. If you don't think typical "Liberals" and "Conservatives" ignore human nature to a shocking degree, you must live in a cave.
Capitalism is a law of nature, like evolution.
So, it's okay to set my little sister on fire if I think I'm not getting enough food or attention from Mommy? How about if your little brother sets you on fire for the same reasons? Avian chicks push the weakest chick out of the nest, so it's natural, right?
I think humanity invented civilization in order to dull the edges of that sort of psychopathy. Capitalism is an economic system designed to maximize profit and minimize costs and is exemplary in rewarding its best practitioners and innovators. Its downside is that profit attracts second handers and freeloaders (including politicians), and many capitalists aren't principled enough to turn them away. They think getting ahead is getting ahead regardless of how low (morally and/or ethically) they have to sink to do it.
It has at times been a terrific system until the politicians inevitably mucked it up with descriminatory tarriffs, regulatory capture, protectionism, & etc.
he was dismissed from the "armed forces" because, according to him, he had problems following "dumb orders"
'Sounds like Chuck Yeager, except for the dismissed part.
... roughly at -34.45221847282653, 75.2783203125
That's roughly? Are you a Vulcan, or positronic?
Anyone versed in GTR here to help?
When the heart rules the mind ...
Yes, a perfect example of why we came up with the "Blah blah blah (Bbb)" construct, so no-one would go tripping off to "Grand Trunk Railroad" when "General Theory of Relativity" was intended. :-P
Sigh. Maybe the "editors" should outsource editing to /. readers. Email the submission to five /. readers you trust, tell 'em to review it and write a summary, then the "editor" picks one of the submissions which will be the summary/submission.
"Editor" problem solved. You're welcome. I guess I should patent it now.
This is reality we're talking about after all (except for the many worlds, that is philosophy).
Are you sure? No. Even Hawking has weighed in on this (A Brief History of Time). Assuming our Universe is a self-contained bubble, what's outside the bubble? What came before, and what comes next?
It's not just philosophy/mindgames.
... philosophers are concerned about what is possible not just in this world, but in any possible world.
FTFY.
Physics is all the ideas about the universe that have meaningful applications to the real world, and philosophy is everything else.
No. The first part is true, I agree. However, philosophy is not as fluffy as you assume it to be. Right vs. wrong. Ethics, morality, evil, virtuous, ... Epistemology, ... These are not nothing.
It's okay to be gay.
Are you sure? Gays don't reproduce, except via adoption. Your "biological essence" ends with you. All of your forebears' efforts were for nought. Are you okay with that? Much like someone who had a vasectomy, you don't count in the long run. Still okay with that?
Just sayin'. Biologically speaking, gays == vasectomied males. In the long run. Not that there's anything bad about that. We have the right to choose.
God will then become so annoyed with you, He will reveal His annoyance and the next day you find a bird's dropping on your newly washed car.
I don't have a car. Where does God's shit end up then, eh? Huh? Eh?!? Hah! Gotcha!
It seems more likely to me that the entire guilt/redemption pattern is an artifact of our simulation ...
Yes, Neo, now you're beginning to become aware. Don't listen to those voices screaming at you inside your head. Do the Superman thing, and rise above.
Don't make me turn this universe around. I *will* do it!
Recall? Who called it?
It's not really that difficult a question, and we want to know!!!111 Grr. Answer now, puny human!
I really should start posting my own words and not some other guy's cartoons.
You might think that, but you'd be mistaken, at best. xkcd is my browser's homepage, yet I still have no idea how you guys do it (as in keep up with xkcd). Then again:
(0) kiak /home/keeling_ uptime
... I don't get a lot of refreshes. I should try harder, I know. Keep on quoting xkcd URLs, please. It helps us mortals in small ways.
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It's not about free will.
Of course it's about free will.
People don't know the risks.
Free will gives you the tools to educate yourself, or not. Your choice.
If you sell 1L of pop in one glass, advertising it as a one-person deal, people who don't know better will assume that it's ok [to] drink that much.
If you fall for that pitch, all the while watching your weight balloon past 300 lb., then blame it on "the corporations!" purveyors of said 1L sugary drinks, you just make yourself look like a weak minded "consumer", as opposed to a thinking individual.
ok, you're dumb.
Fine. Carry on. Blissfully.
WTF is a bibendum?
Still confused, sorry. I've taken two passes through this story's comments so far, and it gets foggier each time.
I'm still wondering why big sugar filled drinks is the most important thing on "The Authoritays" minds. Don't they have anything better to do? Terrists? Big Macs? Twinkies?